Billboard Hot 100: 01/21/2017

[Future Captain]

Both SOY and COTH top 10 debut is guaranteed, it seems. Sales will be in the 200-250k range, streaming is strong with great showing from Spotify and Youtube, and radio will support both, obviously.

[Sambalada]

I still can't seem to figure out who the hell Ed Sheeran is and what business he has with Spotify

[Enigma.]

I think Ed is guaranteed for a #1 debut? I mean Zayn did it last year with worse opening...

[Harx]

Jan 7, 2017 8:26:50 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

I think Ed is guaranteed for a #1 debut? I mean Zayn did it last year with worse opening...

No offense for people who like B&B but I'd rather have Ed Sheeran's "Cheap Thrills" rip-off as #1 rather than another viral/meme song for the next 10 weeks. I like Black Beatles and I like Bad and Boujee a little, but this is really getting old now.

[Au$tin]

Jan 7, 2017 8:26:50 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

I think Ed is guaranteed for a #1 debut? I mean Zayn did it last year with worse opening...

Depends on airplay figures and how it will all total up against B&B and Black Beatles, the only two songs that can stop SOY from debuting at #1.

[rimetm]

So, it looks like this week itself will be decided on how strong airplay is compared to the other metrics:

Bad and Boujee: 28,463,436 streams + 70,000,000 sales + 21,000,000 audience impressions = 33,087 points?
Black Beatles: 21,103,482 streams + 57,000,000 sales + 100,000,000 audience impressions = 33,110 points?

...hoo boy, this one's a nailbiter.

[Glove Slap]

Jan 7, 2017 5:37:34 GMT -5 Harx said:

Jan 7, 2017 5:09:31 GMT -5 Glove Slap said:

Oh, the "deserve" aka my opinion > math argument again. Oh Pulse, sometimes you're just so Pulse.

I'm confused. Did I say something wrong? Is having an just an opinion a crime in here? I mean the purpose of the forum is discussing opinions.

Lmao you said nothing wrong, no need to overreact. It's just that someone here trying to say that some song "deserves" a certain placement on a numerically ranked chart based on data happens about 50+ times a year, so it's sort of a recurring cliche.

I want the 2 Ed songs and 2 upcoming Future features to park themselves in the top 10 for months, but you don't see me saying they "deserve" it . If they don't put up the digits then they don't.

[jayhawk1117]

I'm glad I underestimated how strong Ed's comeback was. Now it's looking like he'll have two top ten debuts and a chance at number 1.

[macabyan]

Tbh Ed Sheeran has always conquered the charts: Thinking Out Loud was the 2015 Year-End #2, Love Yourself was 2016's #1, and as early as this point I can see Shape of You as 2017's top 10 easy. Don't know why some people still question his presence smh

[atg]

Jan 7, 2017 14:02:58 GMT -5 macabyan said:

Tbh Ed Sheeran has always conquered the charts: Thinking Out Loud was the 2015 Year-End #2, Love Yourself was 2016's #1, and as early as this point I can see Shape of You as 2017's top 10 easy. Don't know why some people still question his presence smh

I hope shape of you or I feel it coming (there is a possibility) becomes the year end #1. I can't suffer BB or B&B becoming #1.

[jenglisbe]

Jan 7, 2017 14:02:58 GMT -5 macabyan said:

Tbh Ed Sheeran has always conquered the charts: Thinking Out Loud was the 2015 Year-End #2, Love Yourself was 2016's #1, and as early as this point I can see Shape of You as 2017's top 10 easy. Don't know why some people still question his presence smh

"Love Yourself" is fairly irrelevant; that's like expecting if Dianne Warren had released a song in the 90s it would have gone to #1 because she wrote "Because You Loved Me" and "Un-break My Heart."

The reality is that the only huge hit Sheeran as a solo artist has had to this point is "Thinking Out Loud." He's had a few other hits, but not huge ones. So, for people to be unsure of his standing is legitimate. I think we all recognize his popularity grew from his first album to his second album and therefore he had momentum, but he's nowhere near the proven hitmaker of a Bruno Mars, Taylor Swift, etc. so people were right to be unsure. Good on Ed for his new songs doing really well so far.

[forg]

I like both new Sheeran songs so hopefully it can do what Bieber did last year and have multiple successful songs on the chart

[Dylan :)]

Has anyone ever debuted at #1 and #2 in the same week?

[jayhawk1117]

Jan 7, 2017 22:24:52 GMT -5 Dylan :) said:

Has anyone ever debuted at #1 and #2 in the same week?

I don't think so

[85la]

^ Yeah, it's hard to have two simultaneous hits released at the same time, especially if they are sent to the same formats. Shape of You definitely seems to be the main single they are promoting at radio, and Castle on the Hill mainly an album promo track. Though if interest holds up for the latter, I could definitely see it quickly becoming the next single.

[areyoureadytojump]

Most have big gains:

atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=400248&page=2918

1 MAROON 5 - Don't Wanna Know f/K. Lamar: 176.175 (+ 6.963)
2 THE CHAINSMOKERS - Closer f/Halsey: 157.994 (+ 2.882)
3 ALESSIA CARA - Scars To Your Beautiful: 151.808 (+ 5.996) ▲
4 ARIANA GRANDE - Side To Side f/Nicki Minaj: 151.114 (+ 4.354) ▼
5 DJ SNAKE - Let Me Love You f/J. Bieber: 135.078 (+ 3.282)
6 BRUNO MARS - 24K Magic: 134.156 (+ 2.399)
7 THE WEEKND - Starboy f/Daft Punk: 132.604 (+ 2.324)
8 RAE SREMMURD - Black Beatles f/Gucci Mane: 127.206 (+ 2.947)
9 MGK X CAMILA CABELLO - Bad Things: 99.576 (+ 5.030) ▲
10 HAILEE STEINFELD & GREY - Starving f/Zedd: 97.639 (+ 2.515) ▼

11 SHAWN MENDES - Treat You Better: 91.069 (+ 0.170)
12 SIA - Cheap Thrills: 88.948 (+ 0.235)
13 TWENTY ONE PILOTS - Heathens: 87.255 (+ 1.321)
14 RIHANNA - Love On The Brain: 81.780 (+ 3.981)
15 DRAKE - Fake Love: 80.947 (+ 3.875)
16 JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE - Can't Stop The Feeling: 72.419 (- 0.707)
17 ZAYN/TAYLOR SWIFT - I Don't Wanna Live Forever: 71.443 (+ 3.458) ▲
18 ADELE - Water Under The Bridge: 71.167 (+ 2.852)
19 THE WEEKND - I Feel It Coming f/Daft Punk: 69.913 (+ 4.773) ▲
20 KEITH URBAN - Blue Ain't Your Color: 69.767 (+ 1.085) ▼

CARRIE UNDERWOOD - Dirty Laundry: 64.742 (+ 0.933)
BLAKE SHELTON - A Guy With A Girl: 62.527 (+ 1.122)
NIALL HORAN - This Town: 56.024 (+ 3.291)
SHAWN MENDES - Mercy: 47.213 (+ 2.901)
ED SHEERAN - Shape Of You: 29.071 (+ 8.617)
THE WEEKND - Party Monster: 15.286 (+ 1.009)
BEYONCE - All Night: 12.959 (+ 0.589)
CLEAN BANDIT & ANNE-MARIE - Rockabye f/Sean Paul: 11.776 (+ 1.136)
LADY GAGA - Million Reasons: 10.382 (+ 0.455)
JAMES ARTHUR - Say You Won't Let Go: 8.505 (+ 0.470)
BRITNEY SPEARS - Slumber Party f/Tinashe: 7.549 (+ 0.294)
NOAH CYRUS - Make Me (Cry) f/Labrinth: 6.664 (+ 0.835)
ED SHEERAN - Castle On The Hill: 6.079 (+ 0.131)
TWENTY ONE PILOTS - Heavydirtysoul: 2.343 (+ 0.089)
ARIANA GRANDE - Everyday f/Future: 1.188 (+ 0.297)

[Soulsista]

Billboard Top 10 from 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago:

January 20, 1962

01 01 The Twist - Chubby Checker (2nd and final week at #1)
02 03 Peppermint Twist (Part 1) - Joey Dee & The Starlighters
03 02 The Lion Sleeps Tonight - The Tokens
04 04 Can't Help Falling In Love - Elvis Presley
05 05 I Know (You Don't Love Me No More) - Barbara George
06 06 Happy Birthday, Sweet Sixteen - Neil Sedaka
07 07 Walk On By - Leroy Van Dyke
08 08 Run To Him - Bobby Vee
09 12 When I Fall In Love - The Lettermen
10 17 Norman - Sue Thompson


January 21, 1967

01 01 I'm a Believer - The Monkees (4th of 7 weeks at #1)
02 02 Snoopy Vs. The Red Baron - The Royal Guardsmen
03 03 Tell It Like It Is - Aaron Neville
04 04 Good Thing - Paul Revere & The Raiders feat. Mark Lindsey
05 06 Words Of Love - The Mamas & The Papas
06 07 Standing In The Shadows Of Love - The Four Tops
07 10 Georgy Girl - The Seekers
08 05 Sugar Town - Nancy Sinatra
09 16 Nashville Cats - The Lovin' Spoonful
10 12 Tell It To The Rain - The Four Seasons


January 22, 1972

01 01 American Pie (Parts 1 & 2) - Don McLean (2nd of 4 weeks at #1)
02 02 Brand New Key - Melanie
03 03 Let's Stay Together - Al Green
04 04 Sunshine - Jonathan Edwards
05 14 Day After Day - Badfinger
06 06 Scorpio - Dennis Coffey & The Detroit Guitar Band
07 07 I'd Like To Teach The World To Sing (In Perfect Harmony) - The New Seekers
08 10 The Clean Up Woman - Betty Wright
09 11 You Are Everything - The Stylistics
10 12 Sugar Daddy - The Jackson 5


January 22, 1977

01 02 I Wish - Stevie Wonder (1st and only week at #1)
02 03 Car Wash - Rose Royce
03 01 You Make Me Feel Like Dancing - Leo Sayer
04 05 Dazz - Brick
05 04 You Don't Have To Be a Star (To Be In My Show) - Marilyn McCoo & Billy Davis Jr.
06 08 Hot Line - The Sylvers
07 12 New Kid In Town / Victim Of Love - The Eagles
08 09 After The Lovin' - Engelbert Humperdinck
09 19 Blinded By The Light - Manfred Mann's Earth Band
10 20 Torn Between Two Lovers - Mary MacGregor

[HolidayGuy]

Today's rolling totals reflect Jan. 1-on, so the year-end countdowns, 2016 hits, etc. are leaving the building.

[Soulsista]

Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:

January 23, 1982

01 01 Physical - Olivia Newton-John (10th and final week at #1)
02 02 Waiting For a Girl Like You - Foreigner
03 05 Centerfold - The J. Geils Band
04 04 I Can't Go For That (No Can Do) - Daryl Hall & John Oates
05 06 Harden My Heart - Quarterflash
06 07 Leather And Lace - Stevie Nicks w/Don Henley
07 08 Turn Your Love Around - George Benson
08 03 Let's Groove - Earth, Wind & Fire
09 09 Trouble - Lindsey Buckingham
10 10 The Sweetest Thing (I've Ever Known) - Juice Newton


January 24, 1987

01 05 At This Moment - Billy Vera & The Beaters (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
02 02 C'est La Vie - Robbie Nevil
03 01 Shake You Down - Gregory Abbott
04 07 Open Your Heart - Madonna
05 06 Control - Janet Jackson
06 08 Land Of Confusion - Genesis
07 12 Someday - Glass Tiger
08 13 Change Of Heart - Cyndi Lauper
09 09 Is This Love - Survivor
10 11 Victory - Kool & The Gang


January 25, 1992

01 02 All 4 Love - Color Me Badd (1st and only week at #1)
02 03 Can't Let Go - Mariah Carey
03 04 Don't Let The Sun Go Down On Me - George Michael & Elton John
04 01 Black Or White - Michael Jackson
05 05 Finally - CeCe Peniston
06 06 Diamonds And Pearls - Prince & The New Power Generation
07 07 I Love Your Smile - Shanice
08 09 Smells Like Teen Spirit - Nirvana
09 15 Mysterious Ways - U2
10 31 I'm Too Sexy - Right Said Fred


January 18, 1997

01 01 Un-Break My Heart - Toni Braxton (7th of 11 weeks at #1)
02 03 Don't Let Go (Love) - En Vogue
03 02 I Believe I Can Fly - R. Kelly
04 04 Nobody - Keith Sweat feat. Athena Cage
05 05 I Believe In You And Me - Whitney Houston
06 06 No Diggity - Blackstreet feat. Dr. Dre
07 08 Mouth - Merril Bainbridge
08 07 I'm Still In Love With You - New Edition
09 10 It's All Coming Back To Me Now - Celine Dion
10 12 Fly Like An Eagle - Seal

[Soulsista]

Billboard Top 10 Flashback:

January 19, 2002

01 02 U Got It Bad - Usher (2nd of 6 weeks at #1)
02 01 How You Remind Me - Nickelback
03 03 Family Affair - Mary J. Blige
04 04 Get The Party Started - P!nk
05 06 Always On Time - Ja Rule feat. Ashanti
06 07 My Sacrifice - Creed
07 08 Whenever, Wherever - Shakira
08 05 Hero - Enrique Iglesias
09 09 A Woman's Worth - Alicia Keys
10 10 Differences - Ginuwine


January 20, 2007

01 01 Irreplaceable - Beyonce (6th of 10 weeks at #1)
02 04 I Wanna Love You - Akon feat. Snoop Dogg
03 02 Fergalicious - Fergie feat. will.i.am
04 03 Smack That - Akon feat. Eminem
05 10 Say It Right - Nelly Furtado
06 06 My Love - Justin Timberlake feat. T.I.
07 05 How To Save a Life - The Fray
08 07 We Fly High - Jim Jones
09 13 Welcome To The Black Parade - My Chemical Romance
10 08 It Ends Tonight - The All-American Rejects


January 21, 2012

01 02 We Found Love - Rihanna feat. Calvin Harris (9th of 10 weeks at #1)
02 01 Sexy And I Know It - LMFAO
03 04 It Will Rain - Bruno Mars
04 08 Set Fire To The Rain - Adele
05 05 Good Feeling - Flo Rida
06 03 The One That Got Away - Katy Perry
07 07 N***as In Paris - Jay-Z & Kanye West
08 NE I Won't Give Up - Jason Mraz
09 06 Party Rock Anthem - LMFAO feat. Lauren Bennett & Goonrock
10 09 Someone Like You - Adele


January 23, 2016

01 02 Sorry - Justin Bieber (1st of 3 weeks at #1)
02 01 Hello - Adele
03 03 Love Yourself - Justin Bieber
04 04 Hotline Bling - Drake
05 09 Stressed Out - Twenty One Pilots
06 07 Same Old Love - Selena Gomez
07 06 Stitches - Shawn Mendes
08 05 What Do You Mean? - Justin Bieber
09 08 Here - Alessia Cara
10 10 Like I'm Gonna Lose You - Meghan Trainor feat. John Legend

[Raccoon]

"shape of You" has overtaken "both" on Apple Musicc, COTH #6

[atg]

Jan 7, 2017 22:24:52 GMT -5 Dylan :) said:

Has anyone ever debuted at #1 and #2 in the same week?

Hello and Sorry??

[Zach]

Jan 8, 2017 13:57:04 GMT -5 atg said:

Jan 7, 2017 22:24:52 GMT -5 Dylan :) said:

Has anyone ever debuted at #1 and #2 in the same week?

Hello and Sorry??

I'm pretty sure he meant songs by the same artist. And the answer is no.

[rimetm]

Closest case we have iirc is when I Gotta Feeling debuted at second place while Boom Boom Pow was still leading. So no, no actual cases of both debuting the same week.

[Dylan :)]

Too bad the competition at the top is so strong right now, and Castle On The Hill doesn't seem to be getting a lot of airplay. Maybe it could've had a shot. Depending on how strong Black Beatles and Bad & Boujee's streams are, Ed is looking to debut at #1

[kcdawg13]

Bad and Boujee thought it would win. But Ed came to save the day.

[jayhawk1117]

Jan 8, 2017 19:26:25 GMT -5 kcdawg13 said:

Bad and Boujee thought it would win. But Ed came to save the day.

for a week at least

[kcdawg13]

Jan 8, 2017 19:33:24 GMT -5 jayhawk1117 said:

Jan 8, 2017 19:26:25 GMT -5 kcdawg13 said:

Bad and Boujee thought it would win. But Ed came to save the day.

for a week at least

Yeah. Still counts... I guess.

[bigbertha]

Kworb just said he's not sure if Shape of You will open with over 200k, so the #1 might be in danger.

[MTSChart21]

Jan 8, 2017 23:48:27 GMT -5 bigbertha said:

Kworb just said he's not sure if Shape of You will open with over 200k, so the #1 might be in danger.

Noooooo :(