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Post by Kishi KCM on Aug 4, 2020 6:37:40 GMT -5
Discipline hasn't grown on me over time...the production is the issue for me. Rollercoaster is too loud, Greatest X sounds like it was made by an indie artist on Myspace, Curtains is bland overall and RWU is overrated.
I do like most of the tracks, but it's a step down from Damita Jo and 20 Y.O. for me.
Unpopular opinion: I love Never Letchu Go!
LOVE Feedback Can't B Good So Much Betta Never Letchu Go
LIKE 2nite Luv What's Ur Name Discipline The 1
INDIFFERENT Rock With U Rollercoaster Greatest X
DISLIKE Curtains
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Post by Enigma. on Aug 4, 2020 7:06:49 GMT -5
Don't visit this thread that often but definitely didn't come back to read any negativity towards Damita Jo!!!!!!
Gonna revisit 20 Y.O. now
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Post by Ling-Ling on Aug 4, 2020 7:51:01 GMT -5
If I had to give a grade to that trilogy of post AFY albums, I'd honestly probably grade them all the same. They're all solid C+'s in my opinion. 20YO is definitely the most consistent of the three though.
I like them all more that AFY, which is borderline dreadful IMO.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 4, 2020 8:05:33 GMT -5
^Aside from the singles, the highlight on AFY is "Trust a Try." "China Love," "Better Days" and "Come on Get Up" are decent enough, though the others, especially the remaining "babymaking" song, I could do without.
I was never crazy about 20 Y.O. and Discipline, though I will revisit them soon. Damita Jo is almost even with AFY, for me- it may even get a slight edge.
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Post by π―π² dollybaby π―π² on Aug 4, 2020 8:34:36 GMT -5
If I had to rank her albums post TVR, it would be more like this... there were far more likeable and easier to get into than Damita Jo and contain less duds overall, IMO. Damita Jo would have been a much stronger, cohesive, and solid album if "Put Your Hands On" replace most of the weaker, problematic, bland tracks on the album.
All For You (I only skip Would You Mind and Ooh Baby, otherwise I love nearly all the tracks. China Love and When We Oooh are definitely a mood!)
20 Y.O. (only track I wasn't too crazy about was "This Body", otherwise this album was full of great bops)
Discipline (Greatest X is the only song that I truly disliked. I'm not a fan of songs titled after exs. It's super corny.)
Damita Jo (The weakest of the bunch for sure. The only album in her discography where it had more tracks that I completely nevèr cared for and have to be skipping...Thinking Bout My Ex, Warmth, Moist, My Baby, Like You Don't Love Me. I honestly don't get the love over this album. It had the most fillers, by far. I also feel pretty indifferent on Sexhibition. It's not as strong as her other uptempos like "R&B junkie" and "All Nite". Even Srawberry Bounce had a much better hook than Sexhibition. I think these tracks should have been replaced in favor of "Put Your Hands On". It's definitely stronger than most of the tracks that made it on the album.)
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Post by schnetzka on Aug 4, 2020 9:08:54 GMT -5
I think she should still release her album even if she can't perform the songs live. It's been 5 years since Unbreakable.
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Post by Push The Button on Aug 4, 2020 10:11:26 GMT -5
Damn, y'all don't love All For You? I don't skip a single track. I guess I have too much nostalgia attached to it.
20 YO is on the bottom rung for me. Discipline has a couple of tracks that I love, "Rock With U" being at the top, and I find Damita Jo to be the strongest of those three.
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Post by π―π² dollybaby π―π² on Aug 4, 2020 10:19:45 GMT -5
Damn, y'all don't love All For You? I don't skip a single track. I guess I have too much nostalgia attached to it. 20 YO is on the bottom rung for me. Discipline has a couple of tracks that I love, "Rock With U" being at the top, and I find Damita Jo to be the strongest of those three. I love All For You and I have great memories from that era as well! It was the second Janet cd I had received after TVR. I loved it from the very start. The only tracks I skip are Ooh Baby and Would You Mind. I thought 20 Y.O.and Discipline had some really great bops. Damita Jo is actually my least favorite and I thought it was the weakest of the bunch. It contains the most crappy fillers, IMO.
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Post by Push The Button on Aug 4, 2020 10:27:36 GMT -5
Why is the P.Diddy remix of "Son of a Gun" edited on Apple Music?
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Post by PGriffin on Aug 4, 2020 12:06:47 GMT -5
Damita Jo is my fav post TVR. I will be dragged for this, BUT I actually don't like any of the albums tracks from AFY.
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Post by π―π² dollybaby π―π² on Aug 4, 2020 14:58:47 GMT -5
I think Damita Jo would have been more perfect and consistent if it only had just these tracks.
1. All Nite (Don't Stop) 2. Strawberry Bounce 3. Put Your Hands On 4. Spending Time With You 5. SloLove 6. Island Life 7. I Want You 8. Truly 9. Just A Little While 10. R&B Junkie 11. Damita Jo
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Post by Kishi KCM on Aug 4, 2020 18:02:46 GMT -5
We're allowed to have our own opinions, but I cannot believe there are people out there who do not like Moist or China Love. My heart breaks!
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Post by π―π² dollybaby π―π² on Aug 4, 2020 18:45:10 GMT -5
I could never really stand "Moist" and "Warmth". I would often skip them when the chance is given, but "China Love" is just heavenly. The Asian instrumentals on that track really adds to that atmospheric vibe.
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Post by Kishi KCM on Aug 4, 2020 19:30:36 GMT -5
The 2000's are her most divisive decade among the fans IMO.
So many of us love certain albums or certain songs from that decade, compared to the 1990's where one of the albums is in majority of the fans' top 5 favorites.
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Post by π―π² dollybaby π―π² on Aug 4, 2020 19:31:41 GMT -5
The 2000's are her most divisive decade among the fans IMO. Yup! lol
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Post by bat1990 on Aug 4, 2020 20:04:56 GMT -5
I'm too much of a stan to dislike any of her albums, really. Despite my dramatic behavior around it on here, it still runs circles around other people's work.
And tbh, I love Dream Street. I enjoyed it when CDWOW finally sold a US CD copy in the mid-2000s and then freaked out when I learned years later Giorgio-freakin'-Morodor produced most of the tracks!
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Post by π―π² dollybaby π―π² on Aug 4, 2020 22:33:37 GMT -5
I'm too much of a stan to dislike any of her albums, really. Despite my dramatic behavior around it on here, it still runs circles around other people's work. And tbh, I love Dream Street. I enjoyed it when CDWOW finally sold a US CD copy in the mid-2000s and then freaked out when I learned years later Giorgio-freakin'-Morodor produced most of the tracks! I love Dream Street too. That was a fun album to listen to.
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Post by divasummer on Aug 5, 2020 3:00:52 GMT -5
I loved "Discipline". I was happy there weren't many "baby making" songs on there. "Feedback" was amazing. I thought it was going to SMASH! "LUV" was also an infectious bop in my opinion and couldn't get why everyone was pushing for "Rock With U". It was never a favorite of mine and always preferred "2 Nite" for a dancier/club track. I think at a different time "Never Letchu Go" could have done well. It was so pretty in my opinion. "So Much Betta" was a favorite at the time and I liked "Can't Be Good and Greatest X a lot too. I guess a few of the tracks at the end of the album I could have done without or got tired of them kind of quickly. However this is a great album as a whole and I don't hate anything on it.
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Post by π―π² dollybaby π―π² on Aug 5, 2020 11:07:25 GMT -5
I loved "Discipline". I was happy there weren't many "baby making" songs on there. "Feedback" was amazing. I thought it was going to SMASH! "LUV" was also an infectious bop in my opinion and couldn't get why everyone was pushing for "Rock With U". It was never a favorite of mine and always preferred "2 Nite" for a dancier/club track. I think at a different time "Never Letchu Go" could have done well. It was so pretty in my opinion. "So Much Betta" was a favorite at the time and I liked "Can't Be Good and Greatest X a lot too. I guess a few of the tracks at the end of the album I could have done without or got tired of them kind of quickly. However this is a great album as a whole and I don't hate anything on it. Discipline was never such a bad album as most of her fans made it out to be, IMO. The only song I never really cared for and seek out was "Greatest X", and maybe the album title track. Other than that, I have always found Discipline and 20 Y.O., even her often disregarded album "Dream Streeet", to be far more enjoyable than Damita Jo as a whole. They were actually consistently good and had more replay value to me. I highly consider them to be her most underrated gems in her repertoire. I just never like Damita Jo NEARLY as much as her other albums before AND after. Five of its tracks were incredible dull and lackluster. I think that album is an overhyped mess with a few good tracks thrown on there. The singles from that album were honestly the true standouts from an otherwise truly dismal, very mediocre album. It's the least played album for me, following her debut. The rest, I find myself revisiting time and time again and having fun. I would even dare to say that my other faves' albums that tend to be heavily disliked among other fans: Charmbracelet, Rainbow, MDNA, American Life, Hard Candy, and even Memoirs were all infinitely better than Damita Jo.
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Post by divasummer on Aug 5, 2020 11:53:40 GMT -5
I loved "Discipline". I was happy there weren't many "baby making" songs on there. "Feedback" was amazing. I thought it was going to SMASH! "LUV" was also an infectious bop in my opinion and couldn't get why everyone was pushing for "Rock With U". It was never a favorite of mine and always preferred "2 Nite" for a dancier/club track. I think at a different time "Never Letchu Go" could have done well. It was so pretty in my opinion. "So Much Betta" was a favorite at the time and I liked "Can't Be Good and Greatest X a lot too. I guess a few of the tracks at the end of the album I could have done without or got tired of them kind of quickly. However this is a great album as a whole and I don't hate anything on it. Discipline was never such a bad album as most of her fans made it out to be, IMO. The only song I never really cared for and seek out was "Greatest X", and maybe the album title track. Other than that, I have always found Discipline and 20 Y.O., even her often disregarded album "Dream Streeet", to be far more enjoyable than Damita Jo as a whole. They were actually consistently good and had more replay value to me. I highly consider them to be her most underrated gems in her repertoire. I just never like Damita Jo NEARLY as much as her other albums before AND after. Five of its tracks were incredible dull and lackluster. I think that album is an overhyped mess with a few good tracks thrown on there. The singles from that album were honestly the true standouts from an otherwise truly dismal, very mediocre album. It's the least played album for me, following her debut. The rest, I find myself revisiting time and time again and having fun. I would even dare to say that my other faves' albums that tend to be heavily disliked among other fans: Charmbracelet, Rainbow, MDNA, American Life, Hard Candy, and even Memoirs were all infinitely better than Damita Jo. I pretty much agree you about "Damita Jo". First off the version I heard on the radio of the first single "Just Wait Awhile" wasn't even on the cd or the promoted version. I thought that started off the project on the wrong foot. Yes the "industry" was upset over the Superbowl but that song got a lot of instant play it's first few weeks. It reached num.19 at pop in 4 weeks. Then they released "All Nite" which I was OBSESSED with but looking back it wasn't all that "Janet" sounding at the time. Usually you could sing along to her uptempo songs and this you really can't. Plus it was a little sexual after the "Superbowl". Not that I liked it more but perhaps they should have went with "RnB Junkie"?? I liked "Strawberry Bounce" but only for a minute. Along with another song or two. I think I wanted to like them more than I did and didn't care for any of the slow stuff. This is my least favorite project "Control"-on by Janet.
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Post by Kishi KCM on Aug 5, 2020 12:34:04 GMT -5
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Post by Active Aggressive on Aug 5, 2020 12:41:04 GMT -5
I love Greatest Sex Ever!
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Post by stunnedout on Aug 7, 2020 1:29:13 GMT -5
I actually like most of Discipline. I skip over the middle section with "Never Letchu Go" and "Greatest X" and also the unfortunately subpar Stargate production of "2nite" 2 nite is actually one of the few songs I think could've been a hit. I think she needed Ne-Yo on the record as a duet to make it work at radio. he was on fire at the time and that Stargate production is right up his alley. The only songs I hav saved from Discipline are Feedback. Luv, 2nite, Rockwitu and This cant be good. Those songs are top tier for me. The rest can be thrown away. Her vocals are terrible on that ablum. Im so glad she is back with Jimmy and terry.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 2:39:34 GMT -5
I agree with stunnedout2nite is my fav song on the album along Feedback It is like All nite part 2
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Post by Dreams on Sept 1, 2020 3:45:03 GMT -5
Discipline and 20 Y. O. are both so underrated, yβall!!!
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Post by adamalterlago on Sept 5, 2020 15:35:00 GMT -5
she literally looks 25 in that photo. INSANE.
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Post by spiritboy on Sept 5, 2020 16:36:31 GMT -5
Not her son doing a better job than most make-up artists :kii:
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Post by stunnedout on Sept 6, 2020 17:48:47 GMT -5
Can we talk about how good janet sounds on those leaked Rich Harrison demos from the Damita jo album? Sis was SANGIN!!!!
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