Billboard Hot 100: 05/27/2017

[imbondz]

Is SJLT falling due to streaming? Seems like it's AirPlay and sales are still climbing.

[macabyan]

May 15, 2017 15:00:53 GMT -5 imbondz said:

Is SJLT falling due to streaming? Seems like it's AirPlay and sales are still climbing.

I don't think it fell at all performance-wise, Mask Off just happens to have had a significant streaming boost this week.

[Envoirment]

May 15, 2017 14:18:29 GMT -5 irice22 said:

Could "Malibu" realistically hit #1 next week? Those YouTube are hits are up there.

Nope. It's not in the top 10 most viewed youtube videos in the US on kworb's daily chart. A large amount of the views are from outside the US.

[jenglisbe]

May 15, 2017 13:44:09 GMT -5 Harx said:

May 15, 2017 13:42:11 GMT -5 Gary said:

Justin Bieber is indeed the first artist ever to notch new Billboard Hot 100 #1's in back to back weeks.    True statement

Oh ok I get it now.

One week for a new #1, and then the next week, another #1. Others replaced themselves after multiple weeks.

The 'records' that are come up with these days are truly ridiculous.

[renfield75]

Really happy to see "Redbone" make the top 40. Better late than never!

[truemusicreviews]

In all honesty, my least favorite part about the 2016 charts was how stagnant and boring they were. In the past five weeks alone, we have had FIVE #1 hits. That's progress. :)

Also, congrats to "Redbone"!

[Au$tin]

May 15, 2017 14:18:29 GMT -5 irice22 said:

Could "Malibu" realistically hit #1 next week? Those YouTube are hits are up there.

Nope. It's not even going to be #1 in YouTube streams or any metric for that matter. Top ten should be fairly easy, though.

[imbondz]

You all would have loved following the charts in the 80's. It was constant turnover.

[forg]

new #1! This is a nice break from long running #1s

[Daniel Collins]

So That's What I Like became a No.2 for 3 different #1s (Shape of You, I'm The One, Despacito) . Is it a new record?

[fhas]

May 15, 2017 17:46:14 GMT -5 Daniel Collins said:

So That's What I Like became a No.2 for 3 different #1s (Shape of You, I'm The One, Despacito) . Is it a new record?

No.

Thrift Shop was #2 for Locked Out Of Heaven (1x), Harlem Shake (5x), When I Was Your Man (1x), Just Give Me A Reason (1x) in 2013. Don't know if this is the record, tho.


Love Yourself was #2 for Sorry, Pillowtalk, Work last year.

[kcdawg13]

The Cure's streaming and sales are stable, and airplay is rising. The song just re-entered the Top 50 and is slowly hitting, if Gaga releases a video, everything will be gold.

Any guesses to where Bon Appetit will be next week? Top 40 is pretty set right now, YouTube is friggin' huge!

[Deleted]

May 15, 2017 15:45:52 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

May 15, 2017 13:44:09 GMT -5 Harx said:

Oh ok I get it now.

One week for a new #1, and then the next week, another #1. Others replaced themselves after multiple weeks.

The 'records' that are come up with these days are truly ridiculous.

For what it's worth, Raycon, I believe your interpretation of this record is partially inaccurate.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's saying that Bieber is the first to replace himself at #1 twice with 2 unique pairs of songs.  Number of weeks at #1 seems irrelevant.  Love Yourself replaced Sorry, and now Despacito replaced I'm The One.

The "new" just means it wasn't a song that was already at #1 and then returned to #1.  Makes me think of Usher in 2004, when he replaced Yeah with Burn, and then Fantasia snuck in for a week, and then Burn returned for a week before Confessions Part II took over.  He technically replaced himself twice, but because Burn had already been #1, it's not the same thing. 4 songs vs. 3 songs. Impressively, however, he nearly replaced himself twice in a  row.  Those damn Idol winner songs!  ;)

As far as your comment goes, Jenglisbe, I think it's a record/accomplishment worth noting, considering replacing oneself at #1 is something very few artists have done once, and also an accomplishment that has been noted each time it has happened.  Why wouldn't doing it twice be even more notable? 

I know the feature thing bothers some people when placed alongside lead #1s, which I get, but I still find it interesting/notable.  The 2nd set of Justin's back-to-back #1s are features, but he is *arguably* a big - if not THE - reason both songs shot so effortlessly to #1.  Plus, a feature can mean a guitar solo, production duties, a 10 second rap, or it can be the entire vocal track, etc, but any one of those things *can* be very integral to the song's popularity.  Hell, sometimes lead vocals aren't even credited at all! It's admittedly messy, and rarely apples to apples (like most records spanning the entire Hot 100 era), but for me, it is what it is.  Chart records are really all in the name of fun history anyway, chart facts to chat about for the generations of pop music fans and chart geeks.

[jenglisbe]

May 15, 2017 19:27:07 GMT -5 @samda said:

As far as your comment goes, Jenglisbe, I think it's a record/accomplishment worth noting, considering replacing oneself at #1 is something very few artists have done once, and also an accomplishment that has been noted each time it has happened.  Why wouldn't doing it twice be even more notable?  It just hasn't happened until now, which really makes it even more impressive to many of us... even if it's not as lead artist.

The issue for me is the mental gymnastics required with it being "new" #1s. They stretch to find any way to make something a record when often things are impressive regardless (or aren't impressive regardless).

[Deleted]

May 15, 2017 19:37:31 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

May 15, 2017 19:27:07 GMT -5 @samda said:

As far as your comment goes, Jenglisbe, I think it's a record/accomplishment worth noting, considering replacing oneself at #1 is something very few artists have done once, and also an accomplishment that has been noted each time it has happened.  Why wouldn't doing it twice be even more notable?  It just hasn't happened until now, which really makes it even more impressive to many of us... even if it's not as lead artist.

The issue for me is the mental gymnastics required with it being "new" #1s. They stretch to find any way to make something a record when often things are impressive regardless (or aren't impressive regardless).

I guess I don't think it's a stretch, it's pretty straight forward... just tricky to word given Usher's situation.  It's not often that people replace themselves at #1, period, new or not.  I believe Justin's the 12th act to do so, and now twice.  Other than Usher's situation I mentioned, do you know of any others where it wasn't "new" songs?  I'm thinking that's the reason they had to add that word.  

If replacing oneself at #1 isn't notable to some, fair enough, but I personally think it's notable and something that's been mentioned ever since the Beatles first did it in the 60s.  They did it with 3 songs in a row, which remains the only time that's happened. 

[Leaf]

That reminds me of when Billboard had an article about something along the lines of Fetty Wap being the first act since The Beatles to have songs at #8, #9 and #11 in one week. Like...if that's not reaching I don't know what is.

edit: It was because it was his first three charted songs being at those positions. But I mean those specific positions aren't exactly that notable so...

[Gary]

May 15, 2017 19:27:07 GMT -5 @samda said:

May 15, 2017 15:45:52 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

The 'records' that are come up with these days are truly ridiculous.

For what it's worth, Raycon, I believe your interpretation of this record is partially inaccurate.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's saying that Bieber is the first to replace himself at #1 twice with 2 unique pairs of songs.  Number of weeks at #1 seems irrelevant.  Love Yourself replaced Sorry, and now Despacito replaced I'm The One.

The "new" just means it wasn't a song that was already at #1 and then returned to #1.  Makes me think of Usher in 2004, when he replaced Yeah with Burn, and then Fantasia snuck in for a week, and then Burn returned for a week before Confessions Part II took over.  He technically replaced himself twice, but because Burn had already been #1, it's not the same thing. 4 songs vs. 3 songs. Impressively, however, he nearly replaced himself twice in a  row.  Those damn Idol winner songs!  ;)

As far as your comment goes, Jenglisbe, I think it's a record/accomplishment worth noting, considering replacing oneself at #1 is something very few artists have done once, and also an accomplishment that has been noted each time it has happened.  Why wouldn't doing it twice be even more notable? 

I know the feature thing bothers some people when placed alongside lead #1s, which I get, but I still find it interesting/notable.  The 2nd set of Justin's back-to-back #1s are features, but he is *arguably* a big - if not THE - reason both songs shot so effortlessly to #1.  Plus, a feature can mean a guitar solo, production duties, a 10 second rap, or it can be the entire vocal track, etc, but any one of those things *can* be very integral to the song's popularity.  Hell, sometimes lead vocals aren't even credited at all! It's admittedly messy, and rarely apples to apples (like most records spanning the entire Hot 100 era), but for me, it is what it is.  Chart records are really all in the name of fun history anyway, chart facts to chat about for the generations of pop music fans and chart geeks.

Perhaps this will help


Billboard's wording indicates that this is the fastest accumulation of "new #1's" in history. This is different than a song replacing itself at #1. As in those cases the first song always had more than one week. So by week 2, it was no longer a "new #1"



Wording from the article:




Bieber's historic back-to-back No. 1s: Bieber becomes the first artist ever to tally new No. 1s on the Hot 100 in back-to-back weeks: "I'm the One" debuted at No. 1 on the May 20-dated chart (a week ago) and now "Despacito" dethrones it on the May 27 survey. The previous fastest accumulation of new No. 1s? Oh, only by The Beatles: On March 21, 1964, amid the frenzy of early Beatlemania, "She Loves You" hit No. 1; two weeks later, on the April 4-dated chart, "Can't Buy Me Love" supplanted it. So, by adding new No. 1s in back-to-back weeks, Bieber bests the Beatles by a week for the quickest collection of new Hot 100 leaders.

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May 15, 2017 15:47:19 GMT -5 renfield75 said:

Really happy to see "Redbone" make the top 40. Better late than never

Where do you see the full, published chart? cuz im wondering where both is

[jenglisbe]

May 15, 2017 20:15:58 GMT -5 Gary said:

May 15, 2017 19:27:07 GMT -5 @samda said:

For what it's worth, Raycon, I believe your interpretation of this record is partially inaccurate.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's saying that Bieber is the first to replace himself at #1 twice with 2 unique pairs of songs.  Number of weeks at #1 seems irrelevant.  Love Yourself replaced Sorry, and now Despacito replaced I'm The One.

The "new" just means it wasn't a song that was already at #1 and then returned to #1.  Makes me think of Usher in 2004, when he replaced Yeah with Burn, and then Fantasia snuck in for a week, and then Burn returned for a week before Confessions Part II took over.  He technically replaced himself twice, but because Burn had already been #1, it's not the same thing. 4 songs vs. 3 songs. Impressively, however, he nearly replaced himself twice in a  row.  Those damn Idol winner songs!  ;)

As far as your comment goes, Jenglisbe, I think it's a record/accomplishment worth noting, considering replacing oneself at #1 is something very few artists have done once, and also an accomplishment that has been noted each time it has happened.  Why wouldn't doing it twice be even more notable? 

I know the feature thing bothers some people when placed alongside lead #1s, which I get, but I still find it interesting/notable.  The 2nd set of Justin's back-to-back #1s are features, but he is *arguably* a big - if not THE - reason both songs shot so effortlessly to #1.  Plus, a feature can mean a guitar solo, production duties, a 10 second rap, or it can be the entire vocal track, etc, but any one of those things *can* be very integral to the song's popularity.  Hell, sometimes lead vocals aren't even credited at all! It's admittedly messy, and rarely apples to apples (like most records spanning the entire Hot 100 era), but for me, it is what it is.  Chart records are really all in the name of fun history anyway, chart facts to chat about for the generations of pop music fans and chart geeks.

Perhaps this will help


Billboard's wording indicates that this is the fastest accumulation of "new #1's" in history. This is different than a song replacing itself at #1. As in those cases the first song always had more than one week. So by week 2, it was no longer a "new #1"



Wording from the article:




Bieber's historic back-to-back No. 1s: Bieber becomes the first artist ever to tally new No. 1s on the Hot 100 in back-to-back weeks: "I'm the One" debuted at No. 1 on the May 20-dated chart (a week ago) and now "Despacito" dethrones it on the May 27 survey. The previous fastest accumulation of new No. 1s? Oh, only by The Beatles: On March 21, 1964, amid the frenzy of early Beatlemania, "She Loves You" hit No. 1; two weeks later, on the April 4-dated chart, "Can't Buy Me Love" supplanted it. So, by adding new No. 1s in back-to-back weeks, Bieber bests the Beatles by a week for the quickest collection of new Hot 100 leaders.

So essentially it's a celebration of "ITO" only getting 1 week at #1 instead of being #1 for a few weeks. LOL!

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

It's not so much a "record" as a note-worthy thing worth mentioning for those who might be interested. Not sure why this becomes such a sore point each week. They might be frivolous but they're interesting. Justin Bieber got his 4th (?) #1 last week and this week his 5th (?). And for further interest's sake, it's impossible for anyone else to accumulate #1s in a faster period of time since the charts are weekly (unless it happens in some odd timing where Billboard changes the date of publication of its charts or something ridiculous like that ).

[Harx]

May 15, 2017 20:37:56 GMT -5 @alec935 said:

May 15, 2017 15:47:19 GMT -5 renfield75 said:

Really happy to see "Redbone" make the top 40. Better late than never

Where do you see the full, published chart? cuz im wondering where both is

It's not out yet. This info is from Gary Trust's Twitter

[rimetm]

Off the Chart This Week:

52 Weeks: Can't Stop the Feeling! / Justin Timberlake
20 Weeks: Party / Chris Brown feat. Usher & Gucci Mane
18 Weeks: Call on Me / Starley
13 Weeks: You're Welcome / Dwayne Johnson
10 Weeks: Selfish / Future feat. Rihanna
3 Weeks: XXX. / Kendrick Lamar feat. U2
3 Weeks: YAH. / Kendrick Lamar
1 Week: Bon Appetit / Katy Perry feat. Migos
1 Week: First Time / Kygo & Ellie Goulding
1 Week: Sweet Creature / Harry Styles

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

May 15, 2017 15:00:53 GMT -5 imbondz said:

Is SJLT falling due to streaming? Seems like it's AirPlay and sales are still climbing.

Actually, it fell 6-7 with a bullet. It did fall 15-18 in streaming. It got surpassed by Mask Off in large part due to this song getting a music video release.

[renfield75]

May 15, 2017 18:03:03 GMT -5 fhas said:

May 15, 2017 17:46:14 GMT -5 Daniel Collins said:

So That's What I Like became a No.2 for 3 different #1s (Shape of You, I'm The One, Despacito) . Is it a new record?

No.

Thrift Shop was #2 for Locked Out Of Heaven (1x), Harlem Shake (5x), When I Was Your Man (1x), Just Give Me A Reason (1x) in 2013. Don't know if this is the record, tho.


Love Yourself was #2 for Sorry, Pillowtalk, Work last year.

"Thrift Shop" may hold that record, but there's one song that had a more memorable (and frustrating) run. Waaaay back in 1973 Paul McCartney & Wings' "Live And Let Die" peaked at number 2 for three weeks. AND ALL THREE WEEKS WERE BEHIND A DIFFERENT SONG. Maureen McGovern's "The Morning After" blocked Paul the first week, then Diana Ross' "Touch Me In The Morning" jumped over Wings to reach number one. The week after that "Live And Let Die" stalled at number two again as "Brother Louie" by Stories leapfrogged them and took the top from Diana. I don't believe any other song has been BLOCKED from number one by three different songs, and certainly not in three consecutive weeks.

[RainMan94]

May 16, 2017 9:47:56 GMT -5 renfield75 said:

May 15, 2017 18:03:03 GMT -5 fhas said:

No.

Thrift Shop was #2 for Locked Out Of Heaven (1x), Harlem Shake (5x), When I Was Your Man (1x), Just Give Me A Reason (1x) in 2013. Don't know if this is the record, tho.


Love Yourself was #2 for Sorry, Pillowtalk, Work last year.

"Thrift Shop" may hold that record, but there's one song that had a more memorable (and frustrating) run. Waaaay back in 1973 Paul McCartney & Wings' "Live And Let Die" peaked at number 2 for three weeks. AND ALL THREE WEEKS WERE BEHIND A DIFFERENT SONG. Maureen McGovern's "The Morning After" blocked Paul the first week, then Diana Ross' "Touch Me In The Morning" jumped over Wings to reach number one. The week after that "Live And Let Die" stalled at number two again as "Brother Louie" by Stories leapfrogged them and took the top from Diana. I don't believe any other song has been BLOCKED from number one by three different songs, and certainly not in three consecutive weeks.

The same thing happened to "I'm Not in Love" by 10cc. It reached #2 on 7/26/1975, the week Van McCoy's "The Hustle" reached #1. "One of These Nights" by the Eagles jumped to #1 the week after, followed by "Jive Talkin'" by the Bee Gees the week after, spending three total weeks at #2.

[jebsib]

Ooh - I remember that Wings scenario!
It flew from #21 to #3 in the days when that NEVER used to happen.
Even Casey predicted #1, what with the heat off the new James Bond actor that summer!

[Deleted]

May 16, 2017 7:46:08 GMT -5 rimetm said:

Off the Chart This Week:

52 Weeks: Can't Stop the Feeling! / Justin Timberlake
20 Weeks: Party / Chris Brown feat. Usher & Gucci Mane
18 Weeks: Call on Me / Starley
13 Weeks: You're Welcome / Dwayne Johnson
10 Weeks: Selfish / Future feat. Rihanna
3 Weeks: XXX. / Kendrick Lamar feat. U2
3 Weeks: YAH. / Kendrick Lamar
1 Week: Bon Appetit / Katy Perry feat. Migos
1 Week: First Time / Kygo & Ellie Goulding
1 Week: Sweet Creature / Harry Styles

Wait, what? Weren't people predicting BA top40 due to video?

[rimetm]

The video didn't come out until Friday, the start of next tracking week.

[Glove Slap]

This is for the week prior to the premiere.

[jayhawk1117]

May 15, 2017 13:51:22 GMT -5 fhas said:

Despacito isn't even close to peaking on radio and streaming but already has 54,100 points. 7+ weeks at #1 coming.

looks like we got our song of the summer