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Post by braveheart on May 19, 2017 15:10:47 GMT -5
does hitsdaily double streaming songs chart include youtube streams ? or just apple and spotify ?
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Post by Sambalada on May 19, 2017 15:11:07 GMT -5
Uh, by default there can only be 5 songs a year that make it 10 weeks and you're saying "many, many"... 5 songs per year x 20 years is 100 songs. So SHape of you is easily one of the biggest hits in 20 years. Next "Massive hit" is very subjective. If around one or 2 songs a year are going 10+ weeks that is not so massive in my opinion, because they are forgettable very soon. Also, by your logic "How do I live" was not a massive hit. By your logic 20 weeks at #1 on 2019 is not a massive hit |
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Post by Gary on May 19, 2017 15:19:48 GMT -5
Between 1958 and 1992 a grand total of TWO songs spent 10 weeks at #1
In the 25 years since, there have been 32.
10+ weeks at #1 before 1992 was special, now not so much. I will bet it will happen again at least one more time before the year is out.
Billboard though still writes these up as "special" events. Saying that out of 1065 #1's ONLY 3% have made it to double digits.
Hopefully Billboard will quit doing that at some point
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Post by fhas on May 19, 2017 17:11:24 GMT -5
Despacito
28M+ On-Demand Streaming (16,4M Spotify)
21M+ Youtube
7M+ Pandora
60M streams is definitely possible this week.
I'm starting to think that its peak points will be higher than Closer's 68,000 and Shape Of You's 65,000.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 17:30:45 GMT -5
I just checked the US spotify charts. You what song is still on there? PANDA IS (and so are older songs like thinking out loud but panda is more comedic) ON IT! You know what isn't? Chained to the Rhythm. That's just sad.
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Post by Glove Slap on May 19, 2017 17:34:36 GMT -5
I just checked the US spotify charts. You what song is still on there? PANDA IS (and so are older songs like thinking out loud but panda is more comedic) ON IT! You know what isn't? Chained to the Rhythm. That's just sad. Tell us how you really feel though. |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 17:49:24 GMT -5
I just checked the US spotify charts. You what song is still on there? PANDA IS (and so are older songs like thinking out loud but panda is more comedic) ON IT! You know what isn't? Chained to the Rhythm. That's just sad. Tell us how you really feel though. pretty good tbh |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 17:50:55 GMT -5
"Massive hit" is very subjective. If around one or 2 songs a year are going 10+ weeks that is not so massive in my opinion, because they are forgettable very soon. Also, by your logic "How do I live" was not a massive hit. By your logic 20 weeks at #1 on 2019 is not a massive hit actually it is because it would be the biggest song of the past 25 years, where 10+ week number ones are common The 35 10-week songs are not. |
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Post by Future Captain on May 19, 2017 22:04:16 GMT -5
Oh god, and here I thought we're already done beating the dead horse about what constitute as a big hit or not like last year.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 23:21:52 GMT -5
Oh god, and here I thought we're already done beating the dead horse about what constitute as a big hit or not like last year. But will both be a hit if it doesn't go top40 and makes year-end????? Seriously though, how the hell did a number 56-peaking song reach the year end list last year? |
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Post by Sambalada on May 19, 2017 23:38:48 GMT -5
Oh god, and here I thought we're already done beating the dead horse about what constitute as a big hit or not like last year. But will both be a hit if it doesn't go top40 and makes year-end????? Seriously though, how the hell did a number 56-peaking song reach the year end list last year?  |
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Post by forg on May 19, 2017 23:50:15 GMT -5
Looks like Say You Won't Let Go won't hit the top 10 :(
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Post by Zach on May 20, 2017 9:10:04 GMT -5
But will both be a hit if it doesn't go top40 and makes year-end????? Seriously though, how the hell did a number 56-peaking song reach the year end list last year? This discussion came, was completely exhausted, went and does not need to come again. The term "hit" is a subjective term based on each person's personal views and the context and situation of the song itself. Leave it at that. It became very annoying when every Hot 100 thread in the second half of last year turned into a meaningless page after page discussion about what constituted a hit. And to answer your question, even though I'm sure it was rhetorical: It managed enough cumulative chart points throughout the year to make the year-end list. |
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Post by rimetm on May 20, 2017 10:44:58 GMT -5
YouTube data is in for the week along with Spotify:
YouTube
22.8 - Despacito (+1.1)
19.6 - XO Tour Llif3 (+1.0)
19.4 - That's What I Like (-0.2)
18.2 - Mask Off (-5.2)
17.3 - I'm the One (=)
14.7 - Shape of You (-0.1)
14.6 - Congratulations (+1.7)
13.9 - HUMBLE. (-0.2)
13.9 - iSpy (-0.5)
11.8 - Rolex (-0.1)
Spotify
16.4 - Despacito (+0.4)
16.1 - HUMBLE. (-1.0)
13.6 - I'm the One (-0.9)
11.0 - XO Tour Llif3 (+0.1)
10.2 - Mask Off (=)
09.4 - DNA. (-0.7)
07.6 - Malibu (NEW)
07.5 - Congratulations (+0.5)
07.4 - 18002738255 (-1.5)
06.8 - That's What I Like (-0.3)
Sales estimates still not up for the week, but anyone else get the sense Congratulations could challenge for the top 10 based on this major stream boost?
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Post by Normi on May 20, 2017 10:54:36 GMT -5
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Post by Future Captain on May 20, 2017 10:59:28 GMT -5
I'm afraid most of BA's streaming in Youtube came from outside the US if that Youtube numbers are true. |
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Post by rimetm on May 20, 2017 11:05:04 GMT -5
#14 on US YT, with 8.2 million streams. It should re-enter, but as a top 40? Not so sure since sales went nowhere. |
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Post by fhas on May 20, 2017 11:32:05 GMT -5
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Post by Future Captain on May 20, 2017 12:10:33 GMT -5
The numbers posted most likely includes non-official videos as well, hence the difference. |
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Post by rimetm on May 20, 2017 13:18:11 GMT -5
No, it's a UI issue with how YouTube does the dates. You can't pinpoint a single day's data just by making the start and the end the same. For example, in order to get Friday's data, you need to start with Thursday and end on Friday or else you get no data at all. Thus, in order to get the tracking week of Friday to Thursday, you actually need to start with the prior Thursday or else you axe a day off the data.
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Post by DJ General on May 20, 2017 13:49:30 GMT -5
Between 1958 and 1992 a grand total of TWO songs spent 10 weeks at #1 In the 25 years since, there have been 32. 10+ weeks at #1 before 1992 was special, now not so much. I will bet it will happen again at least one more time before the year is out. Billboard though still writes these up as "special" events. Saying that out of 1065 #1's ONLY 3% have made it to double digits. Hopefully Billboard will quit doing that at some point How on earth is 10+ still not special when only 32 have since? LOL that is the definition of special. Nearly 1100 #1s and there are less than 40 songs to ever do it... They are all giant, massive hits. It is EXTREMELY special to make it to 10. You do realize things can still be extremely special if it happens more than a few times? Most people accept a "Top 40" chart as the standard and if we don't even have 40 songs that have done this yet, it is VERY special. |
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Post by Soulsista on May 20, 2017 14:43:41 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago:
June 2, 1962
01 04 I Can't Stop Loving You - Ray Charles (1st of 5 weeks at #1)
02 01 Stranger On The Shore - Mr. Acker Bilk
03 02 Soldier Boy - The Shirelles
04 10 Lovers Who Wander - Dion
05 03 Mashed Potato Time - Dee Dee Sharp
06 06 Everybody Loves Me But You - Brenda Lee
07 11 Shout Shout (Knock Yourself Out) - Ernie Maresca
08 05 Old Rivers - Walter Brennan
09 12 The One Who Really Loves You - Mary Wells
10 21 (The Man Who Shot) Liberty Valance - Gene Pitney
June 3, 1967
01 02 Respect - Aretha Franklin (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
02 01 Groovin' - The Young Rascals
03 03 I Got Rhythm - The Happenings
04 04 Release Me (And Let Me Love Again) - Engelbert Humperdinck
05 08 Creeque Alley - The Mamas & The Papas
06 07 Him Or Me, What's It Gonna Be - Paul Revere & The Raiders feat. Mark Lindsey
07 05 The Happening - The Supremes
08 06 Sweet Soul Music - Arthur Conley
09 17 Somebody To Love - Jefferson Airplane
10 15 All I Need - The Temptations
June 3, 1972
01 02 I'll Take You There - The Staple Singers (1st and only week at #1)
02 01 Oh Girl - The Chi-Lites
03 03 The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face - Roberta Flack
04 05 The Candy Man - Sammy Davis Jr. w/The Mike Curb Congregation
05 09 Sylvia's Mother - Dr. Hook & The Medicine Show
06 06 Morning Has Broken - Cat Stevens
07 07 Tumbling Dice - The Rolling Stones
08 11 Nice To Be With You - Gallery
09 10 Hot Rod Lincoln - Commander Cody & His Lost Planet Airmen
10 04 Look What You've Done For Me - Al Green
June 4, 1977
01 01 Sir Duke - Stevie Wonder (3rd and final week at #1)
02 03 I'm Your Boogie Man - K.C. & The Sunshine Band
03 04 Dreams - Fleetwood Mac
04 05 Got To Give It Up (Part 1) - Marvin Gaye
05 06 Gonna Fly Now (Theme From Rocky) - Bill Conti
06 07 Couldn't Get It Right - The Climax Blues Band
07 08 Lucille - Kenny Rogers
08 09 Lonely Boy - Andrew Gold
09 10 Feels Like The First Time - Foreigner
10 02 When I Need You - Leo Sayer
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on May 20, 2017 14:44:38 GMT -5
Between 1958 and 1992 a grand total of TWO songs spent 10 weeks at #1 In the 25 years since, there have been 32. 10+ weeks at #1 before 1992 was special, now not so much. I will bet it will happen again at least one more time before the year is out. Billboard though still writes these up as "special" events. Saying that out of 1065 #1's ONLY 3% have made it to double digits. Hopefully Billboard will quit doing that at some point How on earth is 10+ still not special when only 32 have since? LOL that is the definition of special. Nearly 1100 #1s and there are less than 40 songs to ever do it... They are all giant, massive hits. It is EXTREMELY special to make it to 10. You do realize things can still be extremely special if it happens more than a few times? Most people accept a "Top 40" chart as the standard and if we don't even have 40 songs that have done this yet, it is VERY special. It's all in how the data is presented. Billboard likes to include the entirety of the Hot 100's history when they talk about data, but if you were to include ONLY the last 25 years, 10+ weeks at #1 isn't particularly rare since 32 songs have done it. That isn't to say it's not special. Considering only one song can be #1 per week, any song that manages to do so is pretty special and pretty rare. But when you think about it, 25 years of charts = about 1300 weeks. The absolute highest possible number of 10-week-#1s that could have occurred since 1992 is 130. Considering there have been about 1/4 of that number is a lot. Plus, that also means that for one quarter of the time since 1992, the #1 song has been a song that stayed there for 10 or more weeks. On average, if you pick any week at random since 1992, there's a 25% chance the #1 song will be a song that has been there for 10 weeks. It comes down to how you look at the information and what you choose to interpret it. I still think a 10-week run at #1 is pretty special since only a max of five songs can do it per year. |
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Post by Soulsista on May 20, 2017 15:03:26 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:
June 5, 1982
01 01 Ebony And Ivory - Paul McCartney & Stevie Wonder (4th of 7 weeks at #1)
02 02 Don't Talk To Strangers - Rick Springfield
03 03 I've Never Been To Me - Charlene
04 04 867-5309 / Jenny - Tommy Tutone
05 05 The Other Woman - Ray Parker Jr.
06 07 Don't You Want Me - The Human League
07 08 Always On My Mind - Willie Nelson
08 11 Heat Of The Moment - Asia
09 06 '65 Love Affair - Paul Davis
10 16 Rosanna - Toto
June 6, 1987
01 02 You Keep Me Hangin' On - Kim Wilde (1st and only week at #1)
02 04 Always - Atlantic Starr
03 06 Head To Toe - Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam
04 03 The Lady In Red - Chris DeBurgh
05 01 With Or Without You - U2
06 11 In Too Deep - Genesis
07 10 Wanted Dead Or Alive - Bon Jovi
08 05 Big Love - Fleetwood Mac
09 14 Diamonds - Herb Alpert (feat. Janet Jackson)
10 18 I Wanna Dance With Somebody (Who Loves Me) - Whitney Houston
June 6, 1992
01 01 Jump - Kris Kross (7th of 8 weeks at #1)
02 03 Under The Bridge - The Red Hot Chili Peppers
03 02 My Lovin' (You're Never Gonna Get It) - En Vogue
04 13 I'll Be There - Mariah Carey
05 05 Baby Got Back - Sir Mix-A-Lot
06 04 Live And Learn - Joe Public
07 07 Damn I Wish I Was Your Lover - Sophie B. Hawkins
08 06 In The Closet - Michael Jackson
09 12 If You Asked Me To - Celine Dion
10 08 Ain't 2 Proud 2 Beg - TLC
May 31, 1997
01 01 Mmmbop - Hanson (2nd of 3 weeks at #1)
02 02 Hypnotize - The Notorious B.I.G.
03 05 Say You'll Be There - The Spice Girls
04 03 Return Of The Mack - Mack Morrison
05 06 You Were Meant For Me / Foolish Games - Jewel
06 04 For You I Will - Monica
07 09 I Belong To You (Every Time I See Your Face) - Rome
08 12 The Freshmen - The Verve Pipe
09 07 I Want You - Savage Garden
10 08 Where Have All The Cowboys Gone? - Paula Cole
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Post by fhas on May 20, 2017 15:20:50 GMT -5
No, it's a UI issue with how YouTube does the dates. You can't pinpoint a single day's data just by making the start and the end the same. For example, in order to get Friday's data, you need to start with Thursday and end on Friday or else you get no data at all. Thus, in order to get the tracking week of Friday to Thursday, you actually need to start with the prior Thursday or else you axe a day off the data. Oh, thanks! But I got Thursday's data by making the start and the end the same day. Kworb's YT section has the same numbers that I got. Idk, maybe it works for me but doesn't work for you. Actually, I noted kworb's Spotify section has the same problem, where the weekly charts numbers are a higher than the sum of the last 7 days on Fridays. |
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Post by Gary on May 20, 2017 15:25:37 GMT -5
Between 1958 and 1992 a grand total of TWO songs spent 10 weeks at #1 In the 25 years since, there have been 32. 10+ weeks at #1 before 1992 was special, now not so much. I will bet it will happen again at least one more time before the year is out. Billboard though still writes these up as "special" events. Saying that out of 1065 #1's ONLY 3% have made it to double digits. Hopefully Billboard will quit doing that at some point How on earth is 10+ still not special when only 32 have since? LOL that is the definition of special. Nearly 1100 #1s and there are less than 40 songs to ever do it... They are all giant, massive hits. It is EXTREMELY special to make it to 10. You do realize things can still be extremely special if it happens more than a few times? Most people accept a "Top 40" chart as the standard and if we don't even have 40 songs that have done this yet, it is VERY special. Granted events are "special" even if it happens more than a few times. But if it starts happening with regularity, at what point do we put a different word on it? How about this, Despacito is the 294th #1 since August 1992. 32 of which have spent 10 weeks+ at #1 , which is 10.9% or one out of every nine songs to hit #1 will hit for 10+ weeks. Now let's look at the time period instead of the number of songs. A ten week song takes up about 1/5 of a year. Since August 1992, there have been 1294 Hot 100's. There have been 32 #1's totaling 380 weeks of that 1294 or 29.4% of the time since August 1992. Now we are talking nearly 30% instead of 3% or 3 out of every 10 charts since August 1992 includes a song that lasted for 10 or more weeks. I know this is subject to interpretation and the word "special" probably has different meanings for everyone but....3 out 10 to me is no longer "special", it is COMMON |
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Post by Soulsista on May 20, 2017 15:29:11 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 Flashback:
June 1, 2002
01 01 Foolish - Ashanti (7th of 10 weeks at #1)
02 02 I Need a Girl (Part 1) - P. Diddy feat. Usher & Loon
03 03 What's Luv? - Fat Joe feat. Ashanti
04 04 U Don't Have To Call - Usher
05 05 A Thousand Miles - Vanessa Carlton
06 09 Without Me - Eminem
07 11 Hot In Herre - Nelly
08 08 The Middle - Jimmy Eat World
09 06 All You Wanted - Michelle Branch
10 07 Blurry - Puddle Of Mudd
June 2, 2007
01 02 Makes Me Wonder - Maroon 5 (3rd and final week at #1)
02 01 Buy U a Drank (Shawty Snappin') - T-Pain feat. Yung Joc
03 03 Girlfriend - Avril Lavigne
04 04 Give It To Me - Timbaland feat. Nelly Furtado & Justin Timberlake
05 13 Home - Daughtry
06 07 Pop Lock And Drop It - Huey
07 06 I Tried - Bone Thugs-N-Harmony feat. Akon
08 11 Before He Cheats - Carrie Underwood
09 14 Summer Love - Justin Timberlake
10 08 Glamorous - Fergie feat. Ludacris
June 2, 2012
01 01 Somebody That I Used To Know - Gotye feat. Kimbra (6th of 8 weeks at #1)
02 04 Call Me Maybe - Carly Rae Jepsen
03 02 Payphone - Maroon 5 feat. Wiz Khalifa
04 03 We Are Young - fun. feat. Janelle Monae
05 06 Starships - Nicki Minaj
06 05 Wild Ones - Flo Rida feat. Sia
07 07 What Makes You Beautiful - One Direction
08 08 Glad You Came - The Wanted
09 09 Boyfriend - Justin Bieber
10 10 Drive By - Train
June 4, 2016
01 02 One Dance - Drake feat. Wizkid & Kyla (2nd of 10 weeks at #1)
02 03 Panda - Desiigner
03 01 Can't Stop The Feeling! - Justin Timberlake
04 04 7 Years - Lukas Graham
05 06 Work From Home - Fifth Harmony feat. Ty Dolla $ign
06 07 Don't Let Me Down - The Chainsmokers feat. Daya
07 05 I Took a Pill In Ibiza - Mike Posner
08 08 Work - Rihanna feat. Drake
09 09 Pillowtalk - Zayn
10 10 Needed Me - Rihanna
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 16:36:02 GMT -5
Between 1958 and 1992 a grand total of TWO songs spent 10 weeks at #1 In the 25 years since, there have been 32. 10+ weeks at #1 before 1992 was special, now not so much. I will bet it will happen again at least one more time before the year is out. Billboard though still writes these up as "special" events. Saying that out of 1065 #1's ONLY 3% have made it to double digits. Hopefully Billboard will quit doing that at some point How on earth is 10+ still not special when only 32 have since? LOL that is the definition of special. Nearly 1100 #1s and there are less than 40 songs to ever do it... They are all giant, massive hits. It is EXTREMELY special to make it to 10. You do realize things can still be extremely special if it happens more than a few times? Most people accept a "Top 40" chart as the standard and if we don't even have 40 songs that have done this yet, it is VERY special. Gary's numbers spread light on this. Almost 10% of all songs are spending 10+ weeks on top nowadays. How is that "EXTREMELY special?" |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 20:56:38 GMT -5
How on earth is 10+ still not special when only 32 have since? LOL that is the definition of special. Nearly 1100 #1s and there are less than 40 songs to ever do it... They are all giant, massive hits. It is EXTREMELY special to make it to 10. You do realize things can still be extremely special if it happens more than a few times? Most people accept a "Top 40" chart as the standard and if we don't even have 40 songs that have done this yet, it is VERY special. Granted events are "special" even if it happens more than a few times. But if it starts happening with regularity, at what point do we put a different word on it? How about this, Despacito is the 294th #1 since August 1992. 32 of which have spent 10 weeks+ at #1 , which is 10.9% or one out of every nine songs to hit #1 will hit for 10+ weeks. Now let's look at the time period instead of the number of songs. A ten week song takes up about 1/5 of a year. Since August 1992, there have been 1294 Hot 100's. There have been 32 #1's totaling 380 weeks of that 1294 or 29.4% of the time since August 1992. Now we are talking nearly 30% instead of 3% or 3 out of every 10 charts since August 1992 includes a song that lasted for 10 or more weeks. I know this is subject to interpretation and the word "special" probably has different meanings for everyone but....3 out 10 to me is no longer "special", it is COMMON Yeah... But think about millions of songs made and released every year. Nearly 10 thousand songs got to chart at all on the marquee Billboard Hot 100 in the past 25 years. 32 songs spent 10+ weeks at #1. That's insanely top of the US/world kind of swagger. |
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Post by Gary on May 20, 2017 21:37:01 GMT -5
Granted events are "special" even if it happens more than a few times. But if it starts happening with regularity, at what point do we put a different word on it? How about this, Despacito is the 294th #1 since August 1992. 32 of which have spent 10 weeks+ at #1 , which is 10.9% or one out of every nine songs to hit #1 will hit for 10+ weeks. Now let's look at the time period instead of the number of songs. A ten week song takes up about 1/5 of a year. Since August 1992, there have been 1294 Hot 100's. There have been 32 #1's totaling 380 weeks of that 1294 or 29.4% of the time since August 1992. Now we are talking nearly 30% instead of 3% or 3 out of every 10 charts since August 1992 includes a song that lasted for 10 or more weeks. I know this is subject to interpretation and the word "special" probably has different meanings for everyone but....3 out 10 to me is no longer "special", it is COMMON Yeah... But think about millions of songs made and released every year. Nearly 10 thousand songs got to chart at all on the marquee Billboard Hot 100 in the past 25 years. 32 songs spent 10+ weeks at #1. That's insanely top of the US/world kind of swagger. Sure but only one song a week gets to be #1. There this a song at #1 each and every week, so nothing special there, unless we want to say hitting #1 at all is "special", then fine. The 3% number that Billboard keeps putting out is confined to 1065 songs since 1958 not the thousands that have charted at other positions. Out of 1294 weeks since 1992, nearly 30% of those weeks are taken up by just 32 songs. OR, Of the 294 #1's in the last 25 years, 32 spent 10+ weeks at #1. This statistic can say anything you want if you widen the range to Billboards 32 (plus 2) out of 1065 number ones then you get 3.2% --- pretty special If you widen it even further to all songs that have ever charted since 1958 then you get just 32 songs out of around 28,000 or about 0.1% ---- even more special Or you look at recent charts, It is a certainty that something will hit #1 each week, of those that hit #1, there is a 1 in 9 chance in the last 25 years that if you hit #1, you will spend 10+ weeks at #1 -----now it is a lot less special Which one you choose is up to you |
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