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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on May 28, 2017 23:31:30 GMT -5
Ehhh. I'd say a lot of people forget he's an actor. He's very much known for his music as well. For me it is the other way round, found out years later that he was also a singer/rapper. Well, yeah. I knew him as an actor/writer, but my point was that it seems like a 50-59 split. He's had enough notable music that Redbone isn't notable because of his being an actor background. Target audiences already knew his music. |
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Post by 85la on May 29, 2017 0:24:42 GMT -5
Not into Redbone at all. Don't get the appeal. The voice is whiny and annoying, the tempo is way too slow, the instrumentals and melody are boring. I also can't understand the meaning of the lyrics, sorry if that makes me stupid, but yeah....
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 3:44:28 GMT -5
For me it is the other way round, found out years later that he was also a singer/rapper. Well, yeah. I knew him as an actor/writer, but my point was that it seems like a 50-59 split. He's had enough notable music that Redbone isn't notable because of his being an actor background. Target audiences already knew his music. He is much better known for being an actor than a singer. Redbone is his only top40 hit. |
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on May 29, 2017 9:02:32 GMT -5
Well, yeah. I knew him as an actor/writer, but my point was that it seems like a 50-59 split. He's had enough notable music that Redbone isn't notable because of his being an actor background. Target audiences already knew his music. He is much better known for being an actor than a singer. Redbone is his only top40 hit. People consume music and media in different ways across different demographics. There's no way studies on this, so there's no sound statistical evidence for one way or another. And measurement by top 40 hits is flawed. Personally, I'd argue that a core age group (teens and young adults) first recognized him as a rapper. |
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Post by imbondz on May 29, 2017 9:15:53 GMT -5
Not into Redbone at all. Don't get the appeal. The voice is whiny and annoying, the tempo is way too slow, the instrumentals and melody are boring. I also can't understand the meaning of the lyrics, sorry if that makes me stupid, but yeah.... Because you have your taste in music doesn't make you stupid. I haven't listened to the lyrics but I love his new song. Had no idea he was an actor too. |
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Post by macabyan on May 29, 2017 12:04:09 GMT -5
Well, yeah. I knew him as an actor/writer, but my point was that it seems like a 50-59 split. He's had enough notable music that Redbone isn't notable because of his being an actor background. Target audiences already knew his music. He is much better known for being an actor than a singer. Redbone is his only top40 hit. Chart-wise yes he's struggling, but not when both Because the Internet and 3005 exist, a conceptual album with that legendary GIF cover and an iconic music video for 2010's hiphop wyd |
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Post by jenglisbe on May 29, 2017 13:55:43 GMT -5
He is much better known for being an actor than a singer. Redbone is his only top40 hit. People consume music and media in different ways across different demographics. There's no way studies on this, so there's no sound statistical evidence for one way or another. And measurement by top 40 hits is flawed. Personally, I'd argue that a core age group (teens and young adults) first recognized him as a rapper. Yeah, it's probably that it depends on the demo as to how people know him. Community had a real cult/niche audience who know him from that show. He's also known for Atlanta now, though that audience possibly crosses a lot with those who already knew him as a musician. In the industry he's probably more known for his TV work since in addition to those things, he wrote for 30 Rock. |
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Post by Golden Bluebird on May 29, 2017 14:03:19 GMT -5
I used to think Childish Gambino and Donald Glover were different people.
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Post by Choco on May 29, 2017 14:40:50 GMT -5
People consume music and media in different ways across different demographics. There's no way studies on this, so there's no sound statistical evidence for one way or another. And measurement by top 40 hits is flawed. Personally, I'd argue that a core age group (teens and young adults) first recognized him as a rapper. Yeah, it's probably that it depends on the demo as to how people know him. Community had a real cult/niche audience who know him from that show. He's also known for Atlanta now, though that audience possibly crosses a lot with those who already knew him as a musician. In the industry he's probably more known for his TV work since in addition to those things, he wrote for 30 Rock. And he's on the new Spiderman movie, not to mention a starring role on Han Solo's Star Wars standalone film. (And will do voice work for the live-action remake of Lion King... damn, he's getting a lot of work). I'd say right now he's just as popular as a musician, but his acting career is about to blow up big time. |
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Post by DistrictTwelve on May 29, 2017 17:44:23 GMT -5
I feel like Bon Appetit will click later on this year. I'm thinking of comparing Bon Appetit to Castle On The Hill because it fell hard and is kinda coming back.
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Post by Au$tin on May 29, 2017 18:04:16 GMT -5
I feel like Bon Appetit will click later on this year. I'm thinking of comparing Bon Appetit to Castle On The Hill because it fell hard and is kinda coming back. Where is it coming back? |
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Post by jayhawk1117 on May 29, 2017 18:27:34 GMT -5
I feel like Bon Appetit will click later on this year. I'm thinking of comparing Bon Appetit to Castle On The Hill because it fell hard and is kinda coming back. Where is it coming back? nowhere |
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on May 29, 2017 18:37:04 GMT -5
I feel like Bon Appetit will click later on this year. I'm thinking of comparing Bon Appetit to Castle On The Hill because it fell hard and is kinda coming back. CotH was clearly a promo single that was aimed at AAA while SOY was for masses. It fell hard because it debuted in Top 10 (!) - it's coming back because it's being promoted to POP/HAC and has flew to Top 10 on those formats while SOY is STILL in Top 5. If a widely watched video for BA could not translate to sales/streaming, it's not being sent to radio again. If Witness has other radio friendly infectious tracks, she'll have plenty of chances to get hits. Radio's not done with KP. It would help if her streaming numbers were stronger. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 19:18:39 GMT -5
I feel like Bon Appetit will click later on this year. I'm thinking of comparing Bon Appetit to Castle On The Hill because it fell hard and is kinda coming back. CotH was clearly a promo single that was aimed at AAA while SOY was for masses. It fell hard because it debuted in Top 10 (!) - it's coming back because it's being promoted to POP/HAC and has flew to Top 10 on those formats while SOY is STILL in Top 5. If a widely watched video for BA could not translate to sales/streaming, it's not being sent to radio again. If Witness has other radio friendly infectious tracks, she'll have plenty of chances to get hits. Radio's not done with KP. It would help if her streaming numbers were stronger. Really? I've never seen Castle On the Hill being featured in any battery commercial |
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Post by ListenToItTwice on May 29, 2017 19:19:30 GMT -5
I do not understand why Katy is flopping. I love her three new songs and still listen to them all. Chained To The Rhythm deserved to stick around, while Bon Appetit should just be higher. Swish Swish might get popular as a promotional single, such as Dark Horse, which was a promotional single first. I have hope for this song, let's go Swish Swish! Woot. In the case of Chained to the Rhythm it was clearly the political message that turned people off in the US. The political undertones were soooooo "under," though; I don't think most people would have caught them if the media didn't pick it up as a story. Without them it's a perfectly normal dance track. |
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Post by DistrictTwelve on May 29, 2017 19:48:30 GMT -5
I meant that Castle On The Hill was coming back and maybe Bon Appetit will too in the near future.
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Post by jenglisbe on May 29, 2017 19:59:20 GMT -5
I meant that Castle On The Hill was coming back and maybe Bon Appetit will too in the near future. Is it coming back, or is it more than it's only been pushed as a single in the past month or two? |
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Post by Au$tin on May 29, 2017 20:07:47 GMT -5
CotH was clearly a promo single that was aimed at AAA while SOY was for masses. It fell hard because it debuted in Top 10 (!) - it's coming back because it's being promoted to POP/HAC and has flew to Top 10 on those formats while SOY is STILL in Top 5. If a widely watched video for BA could not translate to sales/streaming, it's not being sent to radio again. If Witness has other radio friendly infectious tracks, she'll have plenty of chances to get hits. Radio's not done with KP. It would help if her streaming numbers were stronger. Really? I've never seen Castle On the Hill being featured in any battery commercial AAA is a radio format that stands for adult album alternative. Basically, it's adult contemporary rock. Castle on the Hill was released to that format as well as alternative when it was released in January. It wasn't released to pop radio, though, until April. Castle actually peaked at #3 on AAA. I meant that Castle On The Hill was coming back and maybe Bon Appetit will too in the near future. Is it coming back, or is it more than it's only been pushed as a single in the past month or two? Yeah, it's that one. It was just finally pushed to pop a few months ago. It was always an official single, just never pushed to his main format in the states until recently. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 20:25:12 GMT -5
Really? I've never seen Castle On the Hill being featured in any battery commercial AAA is a radio format that stands for adult album alternative. Basically, it's adult contemporary rock. Castle on the Hill was released to that format as well as alternative when it was released in January. It wasn't released to pop radio, though, until April. Castle actually peaked at #3 on AAA. Thanks! That wasn't a joke at all! I just learned something brand new today! |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on May 29, 2017 20:38:55 GMT -5
The political undertones were soooooo "under," though; I don't think most people would have caught them if the media didn't pick it up as a story. Without them it's a perfectly normal dance track. Well, once the official video came out, the undertones should have become more than obvious to most people. Although, the performance at the Grammys and the Brit Awards also had that message embedded in it. The former performance coincided with the song's first week of tracking. The media did amplify them since that performance given that it was clearly directed at the Trump administration's policies. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 20:48:35 GMT -5
Are they ever gonna drop Despacito (remix) video at all?
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Post by fhas on May 29, 2017 20:58:27 GMT -5
Are they ever gonna drop Despacito (remix) video at all? NO, PLEASE (Mariah voice). |
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Post by kcdawg13 on May 29, 2017 21:23:32 GMT -5
The Cure is still hanging on, it's steady in all three categories and is gaining airplay. I hope that it'll be able to reach at least the Top 20, especially since summer is here and it's a great dance track.
Heavy got a large boost from the album release and should be able to lift into the Top 40 this week.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 21:32:23 GMT -5
The Cure is still hanging on, it's steady in all three categories and is gaining airplay. I hope that it'll be able to reach at least the Top 20, especially since summer is here and it's a great dance track. Heavy got a large boost from the album release and should be able to lift into the Top 40 this week.Hm no sorry |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 23:22:09 GMT -5
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Post by Choco on May 30, 2017 8:37:25 GMT -5
Are they ever gonna drop Despacito (remix) video at all? Not likely. The original video is over 1B views at this point so it doesn't really need one either. Also, minus I'm The One, Bieber hasn't done videos for his recent collabs. |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on May 30, 2017 9:28:20 GMT -5
ATRL: atrl.net/forums/topic/125-us-airplay-discussion/?page=105KYGO X SELENA GOMEZ - It Ain't Me: 140.083 (+ 0.296) DJ KHALED - I'm The One f/Bieber/Quavo…: 107.039 (+ 2.450) LUIS FONSI & DADDY YANKEE - Despacito f/Justin Bieber: 89.626 (+ 3.598) ED SHEERAN - Castle On The Hill: 79.820 (+ 0.951) HARRY STYLES - Sign Of The Times: 55.508 (+ 1.262) SHAWN MENDES - There's Nothing Holdin' Me...: 52.107 (+ 1.062) LADY GAGA - The Cure: 28.566 (+ 0.407) CHARLIE PUTH - Attention: 28.207 (+ 0.604) MILEY CYRUS - Malibu: 26.615 (+ 1.298) NIALL HORAN - Slow Hands: 25.538 (+ 0.755) SELENA GOMEZ - Bad Liar: 24.044 (+ 1.127) CAMILA CABELLO - Crying In The Club: 15.402 (+ 0.226) LIAM PAYNE - Strip That Down f/Quavo: 10.656 (+ 0.592) KATY PERRY - Swish Swish f/Nicki Minaj: 7.031 (+ 0.150) IGGY AZALEA - Switch f/Anitta: 0.977 (- 0.068) NICK JONAS - Remember I Told You: 0.077 (+ 0.030) |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2017 10:38:33 GMT -5
Happy for Issues, next week might be only chance to get top 10
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Post by Au$tin on May 30, 2017 10:45:11 GMT -5
Information from the article:
1. Despacito [3rd week, Bieber remix counts for 77% of sales, Top Airplay Gainer] (#1 streaming - 65.4m +10%; #1 sales - 137k +19%; #7 airplay - 88m +21%) {#1 Hot Latin Songs - 17th week}
2. That's What I Like (#1 airplay - 164m -5%) {#1 Hot R&B Songs - 15th week; #1 Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs - 8th week}
3. I'm the One (#2 streaming - 45.5m -1%; #3 sales - 80k +4%; #8 airplay - 79m +15%) {#1 Hot Rap Songs - 4th week}
4. HUMBLE.
5. Shape of You [first song to spend its first 20 weeks on the Hot 100 in the top five]
6. Mask Off
7. Stay [Top Sales Gainer, Zedd's 1st #1 on Pop Songs, Alessia's 3rd] (#5 sales - 67k +91%) {#1 Hot Dance/Electronic Songs - 2 weeks; #1 Pop Songs - 1 week}
8. Something Just Like This [The Chainsmokers spend a 56th consecutive week in the top 10 - 2nd to Katy Perry w/ 69; 2nd for each artist on Adult Pop Songs; Codplay now hold record for longest gap between #1s on Adult Pop Songs at eight-year and eight-month] {#1 Adult Pop Songs - 1 week}
9. XO TOUR Llif3
10. It Ain't Me
11. Issues
15. Believer {#1 Hot Rock Songs - 12 weeks}
19. In Case You Didn't Know [Brett Young's first #1 on Country Airplay] {#1 Country Airplay - 1 week}
27. Bad Liar (13.5m streams; 36k sales)
42. Strip That Down [highest new entry]
43. Deja Vu
47. Swish Swish*
47. Crying in the Club*
*The article has an error since it says both "Swish Swish" and "Crying in the Club" are #47.
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