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I only come back to the LMFAO remix of GAYL every once in a while and then the original if I listen to the album but it's not a song that I actively seek out to listen. Outside of the context of the Superbowl performance, it serves no purpose. If she didn't have to do a new song then, I really do wish she had done another classic in place of it. I still wish she had done the "Express Yourself/Born This Way" mashup then.
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Post by Juanca on Oct 16, 2017 23:02:49 GMT -5
I'm so shocked "Bye Bye Baby" and "The Look of Love" did that badly. EDIT: Also, "Gimmie All Ur Luvin'" is 1000000x more desperate, terrible, and relevance-seeking than BIM but that's still in. Well, I mean, that needs to go too. I third this!!! BIM should've been higher than GAYL I didn't understand the single choice for MDNA, especially with songs like Gang Bang, Beautiful Killer, Lovespent...
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Well, I mean, that needs to go too. I third this!!! BIM should've been higher than GAYL I didn't understand the single choice for MDNA, especially with songs like Gang Bang, Beautiful Killer, Lovespent... "Falling Free" too. I had this wild dream that she did a live performance of "Gang Bang" which was based on what was the MDNA Tour version at an awards show (I think it was the Billboard Awards) and the whole world was shooketh because they didn't know how to deal because of the lyrics which she didn't censor nor did the network bother to, the blood, the guns, the violence, and it started a big debate about what was acceptable (in the dream, a mass shooting had just happened) and then Madonna did an interview where she said something about how if she had a penis and then did this performance, everyone would be lining up to have their chance at sucking it but since she's a woman, they have to tear her down and vilify her while they sit at home playing violent video games.
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Oct 17, 2017 4:27:49 GMT -5
I actually really like the music aspect of "Gimmi All Ur Lovin". The rapping didn't bother me at all, because it was fast and it was over quick.
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Post by Glove Slap on Oct 17, 2017 5:45:55 GMT -5
All three of the following tracks find Madonna reflecting on the death of her mother. They're all from within the space of a decade, but from very different parts of her life. "Inside Of Me" Bedtime Stories (1994)Juanca - 9 This is often misconstrued as an ode to a former flame, but it isn't. Fitting in with the laid back R&B sound of the album, as a whole, it's arguably the least 'heavy' of the tracks Madonna has done on this subject. The actual meaning went over my head as well the first time I heard this as well. The closing track to her first album after becoming a parent herself, this is possibly Madonna's most haunting. All these years later, she's never done a track in this vein. Along with Act of Contrition on Like A Prayer, it's probably her most distinctive album closer. "Mother and Father" American Life (2003)alexcuse - 8 By the time this was released, Madonna was remarried to film director Guy Ritchie and they were raising two children in the UK. Despite coming at arguably the peak of their domestic bliss, and fitting in with the self-examination theme running through the album, this finds an older and wiser Madonna brutally recounting her pain as a child and it's outgrowth to her present day, and trying to ultimately find the path to some kind of healing through being able to love another person. I cannot stand American Life as a whole, but this has always been the best song off it for me with ease.
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"Mother & Father" was released promotionally in 2005 when Peter Rauhofer remixed it for his compilation at the time.
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Post by Glove Slap on Oct 17, 2017 18:03:28 GMT -5
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OMC is just so basic in terms of the lyrics and the production. I absolutely cringed at this part, "Here is the law of the land, You play with fire and you'll get burned, Here is the lesson I've learned, That you don't know what you've got til it's gone." It's very lazy songwriting. The vocals were pleasant though.
"Superstar" is soooo much more basic than this though.
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Post by Football on Oct 17, 2017 18:09:51 GMT -5
I probably ranked this twenty spots too high, and the production is pretty weak for a Madonna song...but I would be lying to myself if I didn't say that Madonna's vocal performance is pretty nice on this.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2017 18:11:23 GMT -5
One More Chance probably belongs on a Lisa Loeb album or English-language Gloria Estefan set more than a Madonna one, but still, it's very pretty. I have quite the affinity for basic MOR, but that is not a surprise to anyone I'm sure.
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Post by Juanca on Oct 17, 2017 18:37:03 GMT -5
Yeah OMC is harmless and she sounds pretty good, but it's just too bland to me. Coming to this rankdown I thought this was gonna escape my bottom 5 and rank higher than LDLA, but nope... couldn't do that
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Post by Juanca on Oct 17, 2017 18:43:14 GMT -5
For some weird reason, the AC radio station in Lima put IOM in rotation as if it were a single. I loved it since I first heard it. She sounds great, the production is ace, the layered vocals add punch, and in a way it's so different for Madonna. A big fan of it :)
Mother and Father reached the top 10 of my personal chart. Even though the talk-singing may be a bit cringeworthy, the folk dance combo worked pretty well. Happy to see it as a non-single favorite. One of my favorites from AL (although with time Easy Ride has become my favorite non-single of AL)
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75. "Spotlight" You Can Dance (1987) | Points: 615 | | Average: 63.22 | | Median: 66 | | Std. dev: 14.99 |The story of Spotlight is actually tied to one of her most iconic hits: Holiday. After that songs' success, one of the co-writers, Curtis Hudson, wanted to write a song in a similar fashion, and this was the result. Madonna changed some things with Stephen Bray and recorded it for the True Blue album (with Jellybean Benitez providing additional input), but it was ultimately left off even though it's way better than the ending songs on that. The following year, when the You Can Dance remix project was getting put together, she had Shep Pettibone remix it and included it at the start of the compilation. It was only released as a single in Japan ( single version), where it peaked at #68 on the main chart and #3 on the International singles chart; It was also used in a Mitsubishi commercial there. Nonetheless, it received airplay in the US, peaking at #32 on Billboard's airplay chart in February 1988, and #31 on R&R (where it was her only entry for the year) in January. The first real big loss for me, this is one of her more underrated singles, especially compared to the trash about to come. I'm in the minority obviously, as only three people put this in their top 50. Doc Indie Party Rock - 22 Glove Slap - 32 @mirza - 38 Football - 51 ry4n - 53 .indulgecountry - 53 andrewantonio - 58 mamooshka - 57 Mirago - 60 Juanca - 60 π
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2017 18:51:32 GMT -5
Boooooo this should have lasted much longer Spotlight is such a jam
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Post by Albie on Oct 17, 2017 19:21:10 GMT -5
Aww I was hoping Spotlight could make it a little further.
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Mother and Father reached the top 10 of my personal chart. Even though the talk-singing may be a bit cringeworthy, the folk dance combo worked pretty well. Happy to see it as a non-single favorite. One of my favorites from AL (although with time Easy Ride has become my favorite non-single of AL) I love the ReInvention Tour version which incorporates the first verse of "Intervention" after the rap. The Peter Rauhofer remix had just some of the vocals from the original song. I love "Easy Ride" too. Tracy Young did a remix of that in 2005 for her own compilation.
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Post by Ginger Spice on Oct 17, 2017 19:45:04 GMT -5
Spotlight should've at least been higher than Gambler.
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Post by Glove Slap on Oct 17, 2017 20:22:25 GMT -5
74. "American Life" American Life (2003)
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This track is an abortion and a half (and apparently endorsed by Satan), but it is notable for having Madonna's last arguably great (I mean REALLY great, not "yeah flip that hair gurl" great) video. It was filmed prior to the real escalation to the Iraq War and meant to be a warning, but when the time came to release it, the war had already begun and Madonna pulled the video from the US. It's by far her most graphic video in terms of violence and was replaced by one of her with flags in the background afterwards. As for the single itself, it flopped in the US and was her first lead single since Everybody to not make the top 10. It was a short lived hit in Europe that peaked high on her name, but fell fast. Removed from the production and abysmal rap, this is another piece of self-examination and the loneliness and reality that arise as a result of fame and massive success. {Spoiler}{Hot 100 chart run}
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Post by .indulgecountry on Oct 17, 2017 20:30:09 GMT -5
I really don't care much for "American Life," but I'm a little surprised to see it out this early. I definitely expected this to be a little higher than this.
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I really loved "American Life" when it first came out. I was obsessed with the rap. I was not happy that she chose to pull the video. Good Day Live showed most of the first version so when the flag version that replaced it came out, I was like, "Why?"
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Post by Glove Slap on Oct 17, 2017 20:41:53 GMT -5
The next one has the 4th highest standard deviation in the whole rankdown, and is the first from the ten highest to leave.
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Post by Albie on Oct 17, 2017 21:12:33 GMT -5
I mean "American Life" isn't quite as bad as all this! There are some things that really need to get out soon.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2017 21:29:50 GMT -5
American Life is underrated though far from her best I like it a lot and find it to be a good catchy song
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Post by Juanca on Oct 17, 2017 23:02:57 GMT -5
Spotlight: I didn't know about this song until like late 1990s, when I finally bought You Can Dance on the second-hand market :) it's a good song and definitely should've been a bit higher. Same with American Life. Regarding AL, I remember the frenzy when the initial snippets started to 'leak' and we heard a few seconds of the chorus and a few seconds of the verses and were like: are these 2 different songs or what? lol As a Latino who was completely against the Iraq war and saw the US' move as abusive and unjustified (as many in developing countries thought), this video made me love Madonna even more... until she pulled it off she should've just left it... including the Bush look-alike :) I did like the song at its time as well, despite feeling a bit messy and chopped, but I have to admit that I replaced the original version with an edit of the Felix Da Housecat remix, and reached #2 in my personal chart with that version.
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Post by Juanca on Oct 17, 2017 23:07:49 GMT -5
Mother and Father reached the top 10 of my personal chart. Even though the talk-singing may be a bit cringeworthy, the folk dance combo worked pretty well. Happy to see it as a non-single favorite. One of my favorites from AL (although with time Easy Ride has become my favorite non-single of AL) I love the ReInvention Tour version which incorporates the first verse of "Intervention" after the rap. The Peter Rauhofer remix had just some of the vocals from the original song. I love "Easy Ride" too. Tracy Young did a remix of that in 2005 for her own compilation. YASSS!!! The Tracy Young remix is superb as well. I have good memories of listening to that version multiple times in a row :)
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Oct 17, 2017 23:42:54 GMT -5
76. "One More Chance" A very nice ballad, but she has many more epic ones. This one was Around the middle of the pack for me.
75. "Spotlight"' Hehe. What are the chances that someone who calls themselves 80's icon, ranks this song the highest. Great "party" song.
74. "American Life" This song is something I wouldn't normally listen to. I'm kinda glad it s out early.
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Post by Glove Slap on Oct 17, 2017 23:51:15 GMT -5
73. "Give Me All Your Luvin' f/ Nicki Minaj & M.I.A" MDNA (2012) | Points: 680 | | Average: 60.82 | | Median: 68 | | Std. dev: 23.81 (4th highest) |
In 2012, Madonna played the Super Bowl. This is obviously not lost on the video, or the cheerleader theme within the song. Martin Solveig co-produced this, and Nicki Minaj and M.I.A. were brought in as features (the video was filmed during Nicki's birthday the previous December as well). The single had decently high peaks, but a very short run overall. Notably, it barely made the top 40 in the UK. This is Madonna's 38th and last Hot 100 top 10 to date, and notably, it found her reaching the region in the same week that one of her contemporaries, Whitney Houston, re-entered the top 10 with her hit I Will Always Love You after her untimely death that week (there's actually a video of Whitney watching Madonna's performance and dancing along a few days prior). With 3 top 20 ranks, and 7 bottom 5 ranks, this was one of the most divisive singles on the rankdown. I've never cared for it. .indulgecountry - 14 Doc Indie Party Rock - 14 Troublemaker - 19 @mirza - 22 Leo β - 29 someguy - 39 mamooshka - 46 kmbgs - 48 andrewantonio - 56 Mirago - 58 Rose "Payola" Nylund - 59 Butterflies & Hurricanes - 61 Unhinged - 66 Ginger Spice - 68 @antigonerising - 72 Glove Slap - 75 God - 76 alexcuse - 77 Football - 79 ry4n - 80 Sambalada - 81 Juanca - 81 β ealsΓΌnset - 84 Albie - 84 summers - 84 bat1990 - 85 π
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Post by Leo β on Oct 17, 2017 23:54:48 GMT -5
Im shocked that Dr Indie ranked GMAYL in his top 15
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Oct 18, 2017 0:31:51 GMT -5
Im shocked that Dr Indie ranked GMAYL in his top 15 read my comment a few pages back. I love the music aspect of it and MD sounds great. The rapping didn't phase me at all, because its done fast and over quickly. N.J doesn't sound so bad as a rapper. I kinda like "Starships" too. There I admitted it. Another of my favorite modern songs of her's would have to be "Living For Love". Sometimes her songs just hit that spot.
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72. "I Want You (with Massive Attack)" Something To Remember (1995)| Points: 682 | | Average: 60.74 | | Median: 61 | | Std. dev: 17.59 |
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