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Post by God on Oct 20, 2017 17:01:33 GMT -5
"Love Profusion" and most of American Life is terribly awkward but that’s what makes it so charming to me. Can't say I expected it to place very high though.
Sad about "You Must Love Me" too; that one stings.
LOVE "Isaac" as well.
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Post by Ginger Spice on Oct 20, 2017 17:04:10 GMT -5
The remixes for Love Profusion are much more interesting than the song itself. The video is one of her worst too.
You Must Love Me is so underrated, but I kind of expected it to be out already, so I'm okay with it's placement here.
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Post by Glove Slap on Oct 20, 2017 17:25:19 GMT -5
-Madonnaversary- October 20, 1992 I will talk about these works more later on, but it should be said that today marks the 25th anniversary of the release of Madonna's Erotica album, and just one day later, her book Sex was released. This period found a deluge of heavy and vicious criticism against Madonna, and the album didn't perform up to past projects. And with twelve years of Republican government to end soon, a lot of Madonna's edginess wasn't as so as it had been prior. Especially in comparison to others, Madonna seemed to be losing the superstar sweepstakes in terms of return. The previous year, Michael Jackson released Dangerous and saw it become the world's biggest selling album of 1992. Running concurrently with this period, Whitney Houston starred in The Bodyguard, and shattered records left and right with the accompanying soundtrack and I Will Always Love You. The following year, Janet Jackson and Mariah Carey would release their most successful projects to date. Madonna's reputation (and at times age) was assaulted nonstop, with TV specials dedicated to her fading out of vogue, and an 'I Hate Madonna' handbook being published. She'd lash out in the press at times in the years after, and for some, she was a quasi-Kardashianesque figure at this time (even though she still got hits), a massively famous person whose contemporary claim to fame was that fame. Of course, at this time, diddlegations had yet to be brought forward, star-adorned nipples had yet to fly, the phrase "crack is wack" was associated with Madonna's friend, the late Keith Haring, Patricia Carey probably had yet to get that fated china, and all the names I mentioned were still alive (RIP human hands). Madonna would eventually climb back, but this period only adds to the power of pop culture 'in the moment'. A common criticism of Madonna through the years has been her relative coldness and steeliness, but today more than ever, it can be said that those qualities were essential in her survival, and getting to enjoy the spoils of her achievements. There'll be more on this later on, but for now, I'll give you a link I found to a thread where there's a collection of press articles and interviews from this time (some NSFW), and this short clip of her explaining why she was doing what she was then.
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Post by Albie on Oct 20, 2017 17:56:26 GMT -5
Isaac is heaven
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Post by Glove Slap on Oct 20, 2017 18:43:04 GMT -5
14. "I'm Breathless"
| Points: 32 | | Average: 12.86 | | Median: 13 | | Std. dev: 1.19 (lowest) |
Definitely the oddity in Madonna's canon, this is actually not considered a proper studio album by some. However, Dick Tracy had its own original soundtrack, and Madonna sings all of the material on this (unlike the Evita Soundtrack). With the exception of the final track Vogue, and to a lesser extent, the second part of Now I'm Following You, the album consists of Jazz, Swing, and traditional pop numbers done in the style of the 1940s. Three of the songs were written by Stephen Sondheim and appeared in the movie as well. One of them, Sooner or Later, won 1991 Academy Award for Best Original Song. The album peaked at #2 in the UK and and US, and understandably had a shorter life than any other album she released in the 20th century. This had the lowest standard deviation out of all the albums. Glove Slap - 11 Sambalada - 11 God - 11 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 - 12 summers - 12 Albie - 13 ry4n - 13 bat1990 - 13 Rose "Payola" Nylund - 13 Ginger Spice - 14 .indulgecountry - 14 mamooshka - 14 Butterflies & Hurricanes - 14 Mirago - 14 Juanca - 14 | jtd Thee Stallion | Caviar | Ky | {Billboard 200 run and peak week}
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Oct 20, 2017 19:57:34 GMT -5
I love that Offer Nissim remix which incorporates the Ofra Haza vocal samples from "Im Nin Alu".
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Post by bat1990 on Oct 20, 2017 23:27:23 GMT -5
I actually like "I'm Breathless" a lot, but all of her regular studio albums are so solid (excepting MDNA *shudder*) that I had to rank it lower.
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Post by Juanca on Oct 20, 2017 23:45:50 GMT -5
68. "Celebration" I would never have ranked this version of the song this high. I ranked a totally different version of the song. FYI, this is what I ranked; which seemed like a cool upbeat pop dance number. That other version scared me away. Yeah, I don't think we were ranking one OR the other. Depends on the ranker in the end. I ranked the album version as well :)
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Post by Juanca on Oct 21, 2017 0:01:49 GMT -5
FEELS SO GOOD TO SEE THE LOVE FOR ISAAC HERE!! :) It was quite hard to select only 10 non singles, but Isaac had to be there representing COAD. I also liked Forbidden Love, but didn't make the top 10 Isaac feels almost as it belonged to Ray of Light more than COAD. In terms of the singles, geez, now things are starting to get messy lol You Must Love Me: lower than Don't Cry For Me? come on, now! I can also mention at least 3 other ballads that aren't as solid and where M doesn't sound as strong and believable as in YMLM. I know it's from a musical, but still... Love Profusion: lower than Hollywood? LP is pure pop bliss. It could've been better without some repetitive lyrics, but overall is one of the strongest AL tracks (initially my favorite was Nothing Fails, but recently I've given more love to LP...) Definitely don't like losing another Top 50 >:(
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Oct 21, 2017 1:23:17 GMT -5
67. "You Must Love Me" This is about middle of the pack for me. Its a nice song, but Evita soundtrack had better.
66. "Love Profusion" Ha. So I'm the highest voter for this? That melody hits me everytime. It's very catchy. The musical arrangement, is pleasant enough with the guitar and even ,adds some dance elements too, but not so much to scare me away. plus she looks fucking great.
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Post by summers on Oct 23, 2017 1:01:05 GMT -5
One More Chance - Granted, on hindsight I might have ranked this 20 spots too high. But when I listened to it again, I was struck by how good her vocal is in the song. I can't believe this ranked lower than Give Me All Your Lovin.
Edit: I love Isaac. One of her best non singles for me.
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Post by Glove Slap on Oct 31, 2017 6:38:09 GMT -5
I'm going to reveal up to the top 50 today towards the evening so we get to the good stuff fast, I just have to write the commentaries and haven't been able to get around to it smh.
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Post by Albie on Oct 31, 2017 8:10:47 GMT -5
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Post by Glove Slap on Oct 31, 2017 21:08:00 GMT -5
65. "Bad Girl" Erotica (1992) | Points: 824 | | Average: 55.48 | | Median: 63 | | Std. dev: 20.68 |The third single from Erotica, released during the height of the backlash from the Sex book and the Body of Evidence film, this was Madonna’s least successful release in years, missing the Top 20 in the US for the first time since she started making the Hot 100, and just sneaking into the top 10 in the UK. Probably the most disappointing result for me personally from the entire rankdown, because this has always been one of my favorites. The only one to rank it higher was Ginger Spice, making it his first top 10 loss. It’s notably more low-key than most of her releases, even the ballads, but it all works for me. The video marked Madonna’s final collaboration with David Fincher, and it’s one of her strongest ever imo. Inspired by the 70s classic Looking For Mr. Goodbar, The video follows the last days in the life of a woman name Louise Oriole (a combination of Madonna's middle name and a street she once lived on), an executive who lives her life by the lyrics of the song, drinking, smoking, and bed hopping, unable to escape her own misery. Watching over her is the Angel of Death portrayed by Christopher Walken (who automatically makes everything better), giving her a kiss before she’s ultimately strangled to death by her final nightcap to join him in sharing a cigarette a la Now Voyager. Matt Dillon also has a cameo appearance as a detective. The song has never been performed on tour, but it did get an SNL performance. (Range: 70) Ginger Spice - 7 Glove Slap - 13 @antigonerising - 21 Leo ✔ - 28 ry4n - 34 andrewantonio - 39 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 - 41 Doc Indie Party Rock - 44 Mirago - 49 Unhinged - 50 Football - 55 Butterflies & Hurricanes - 57 God - 59 kmbgs - 63 .indulgecountry - 65 someguy - 68 alexcuse 69 bat1990 - 69 †ealsünset - 69 summers - 71 Juanca 72 Sambalada - 74 mamooshka - 74 Albie - 76 Rose "Payola" Nylund - 77 Troublemaker - 77 @mirza - 77 | jtd Thee Stallion | Caviar | Ky | {Hot 100 run}
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 21:13:35 GMT -5
Might have underranked this It's a great song but nothing remarkable imo, it also kind of gets lost in the discography for me
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Post by Glove Slap on Oct 31, 2017 21:17:50 GMT -5
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Peak: 4/15/2012
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Peak: 05/26/2012
The third highest standard deviation is coming up, and yes, it's an 80s track.
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Post by bat1990 on Oct 31, 2017 21:20:05 GMT -5
I do enjoy GGW, but MDNA had stronger tracks left as album cuts
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 21:26:33 GMT -5
I personally always loved GGW and it's music video Wish it were a more successful song though
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Post by Glove Slap on Oct 31, 2017 21:33:11 GMT -5
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Post by Juanca on Oct 31, 2017 21:33:29 GMT -5
Bad Girl: first single that didn't make it into my personal top 30 chart. It was just too blah for me. I've liked it better with time but it's still very far from a favorite ballad from her. 😐 I do love the video though. One of her best. Girl Gone Wild: oh well, good to see the wild girl beating the bad girl lol. It's fun and modern without feeling trying-too-hard. Far from the best out of MDNA, and other songs are better, but it was good enough to escape bottom ten for me plus the sexy video with the naked man looking at the mirror and the guys dancing in heels was eye-candy :)) (still it's a tragedy that Confessions didn't have two top 40s!)
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Post by Doc Indie Party Rock on Oct 31, 2017 21:45:57 GMT -5
65. "Bad Girl" Erotica (1992) I actually thought this had a great melody. Very classy. It Reminded me of something of a George Michael melody. Something along the lines of "Father Figure".
64. "Girl Gone Wild" This song is horrid. I hate religion mock videos or whatever she was trying to convey here. The music tuned me out too.
63. "Physical Attraction " This song was actually one of her underground favorites. In the 80's; if you wanted to be cool you had to pretend to like the lesser known hits instead of the actual top hits. I say "pretend" because that was a bunch of B.S., but this is a great song for any Madonna era..
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Post by Glove Slap on Oct 31, 2017 21:54:40 GMT -5
62. "Love Don't Live Here Anymore" Something To Remember (1995) | Points: 861 | | Average: 54.11 | | Median: 54 | | Std. dev: 17.63 |A cover of Rose Royce’s 1978 hit, this originally appeared on the Like A Virgin album in 1984, before reappearing on the 1995 ballads compilation Something To Remember, and being released a single in the US the following Spring. The inclusion of this song in 1984 was an A&R idea that was initially met with resistance from Madonna and Nile Rogers (Chic guru and producer of the album), but ultimately they relented as they wanted to show diversity on the album, in comparison to the debut, which was all uptempo. The version in the video is actually the Soulpower remix, which is notably different from the album version. In her diaries from the making of Evita (the video was shot in Buenos Aires during an off day), Madonna described herself as fighting against being "Madonna" for this due to immersion in the character of Eva Perón, forgetting lyrics during the shoot, and making it a very strange and frustrating experience. Madonna was also in her early stages of pregnancy with Lourdes during the filming. This was Madonna's first single to miss the top forty on R&R, where it peaked at #44, and also charted at a lowly #78 on the Hot 100. (Range: 15) @mirza - 15 Rose "Payola" Nylund - 21 Troublemaker - 25 Leo ✔ - 31 summers - 40 .indulgecountry - 41 †ealsünset - 43 Sambalada - 47 Doc Indie Party Rock - 47 Albie - 48 @antigonerising - 49 kmbgs - 50 Football - 53 Mirago - 54 Glove Slap - 55 bat1990 - 64 alexcuse - 64 someguy - 66 Unhinged - 67 God - 67 ry4n - 68 Butterflies & Hurricanes - 69 Juanca - 70 Ginger Spice - 75 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 - 77 mamooshka - 77 andrewantonio - 78 | jtd Thee Stallion | Caviar | Ky | {Hot 100 run}
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Post by Leo ✔ on Oct 31, 2017 22:00:32 GMT -5
Thanks God that utter trash called Girl Gone Wild is out
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Post by .indulgecountry on Oct 31, 2017 22:02:12 GMT -5
"Girl Gone Wild" is a jam and I loved the music video; black-and-white is always pretty effective for me in videos. I also love the spoken word Bible verse(?) that opens the song, and I really like the beat and the way her voice sounds on it. It feels modern but also a little throwback-y.
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Post by Glove Slap on Oct 31, 2017 22:04:36 GMT -5
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Post by 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 on Oct 31, 2017 22:07:02 GMT -5
65. "Bad Girl" Erotica (1992) I liked this song a lot and the video. There was a story that Madonna originally wanted to make the video far more explicit and even pornographic than it actually ended up being but due to all the controversy at the time, she ended up toning it down to what this video ended up becoming. It should have been bigger than it was. 64. "Girl Gone Wild" MDNA (2012) I ranked it where I did because there are simply so many other good ones. The video is super sexy with the inclusion of Kazaky and models Brad Alphonso, Jon Kortajarena, Rob Evans, Sean O'Pry and Simon Nessman. I absolutely love the Offer Nissim remix of it which is totally different from the original. It's dark and mysterious. It was also Offer's first official remix for Madonna. A little bit of the intro from the remix was used as the MDNA Tour intro leading into GGW.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Oct 31, 2017 22:08:25 GMT -5
I'm sad no one likes the MDNA album because I love it. </3
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Post by Ginger Spice on Oct 31, 2017 22:10:06 GMT -5
Bad Girl - It sucks that this one is out so early, but I can't say I'm surprised in the slightest. It's always been underrated. Fantastic melody.
Girl Gone Wild - One of my favorites from MDNA. It reminds me of being in high school, and also the first Madonna era I experienced as a major fan.
Physical Attraction - God, this one hurts too! I'm actually a tad surprised that I left it out of my top 10, because it really is one of my favorites. The bassline is everything.
Love Don't Live Here Anymore - SNOOZEFEST. The original is one of the reasons why Like A Virgin is her least interesting '80s album. The Soulpower Mix is my prefered version, but I don't listen to that one much either. I remember I always assumed that was the version on Something to Remember until I actually listened to it - turns out it was a completely different remix, and another boring one at that. The video is one of her worst too.
Masterpiece - Aww, I kind of wish I had ranked this higher, it's gorgeous and has been my favorite from the album since I bought it.
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Post by Glove Slap on Oct 31, 2017 22:10:28 GMT -5
Current Decade Distribution
80s - 22/27 90s - 21/30 00s - 15/20 10s - 2/8 The 10s get halved again, and the 90s lose 4, handing the lead off to the 80s.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Oct 31, 2017 22:10:52 GMT -5
FUCK! "Masterpiece" was one of my favorites discoveries. Deserved better :(
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