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Post by CoJoFan on Sept 2, 2017 15:00:47 GMT -5
Ok he still hasn't gotten back with me on the Miranda Album snub yet. Trust me I was just as shocked as all of you all! I'm thinking its an error. If that's so is the Song of the Year semifinalists list correct? It's missing a couple Chris Stapleton songs "Either Way" and "Broken Halos". Anyways like I said he's a DJ and I believe he's told me he's a voter so these are either legit or something they've got at the station he works at. All I know is he said I know you're a member of a music forum and thought you'd like to share these with other members. Here are the semifinalists in a few categories. Anyways here is the female vocalist and song semifinalists.
Female finalists Lauren Alaina Kelsea Ballerinin Karen Fairchild Miranda Lambert Reba McEntire Maren Morris Kacey Musgraves Cassadee Pope RaeLynn Carrie Underwood
Song finalists Lauren Alaina - "Road Less Traveled" Sam Hunt - "Body Like A Back Road" Miranda Lambert - "Tin Man" Lady Antebellum - "You Look Good" Little Big Town - "Better Man" Midland - "Drinkin' Problem" RaeLynn - "Love Triangle" Thomas Rhett & Maren Morris - "Craving You" Keith Urban & Carrie Underwood - "The Fighter" Brett Young - "In Case You Didn't Know"
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Post by loveofmusic on Sept 2, 2017 15:20:39 GMT -5
Ok he still hasn't gotten back with me on the Miranda Album snub yet. Trust me I was just as shocked as all of you all! I'm thinking its an error. If that's so is the Song of the Year semifinalists list correct? It's missing a couple Chris Stapleton songs "Either Way" and "Broken Halos". Anyways like I said he's a DJ and I believe he's told me he's a voter so these are either legit or something they've got at the station he works at. All I know is he said I know you're a member of a music forum and thought you'd like to share these with other members. Here are the semifinalists in a few categories. Anyways here is the female vocalist and song semifinalists. Female finalists Lauren Alaina Kelsea Ballerinin Karen Fairchild Miranda Lambert Reba McEntire Maren Morris Kacey Musgraves Cassadee Pope RaeLynn Carrie Underwood Song finalists Lauren Alaina - "Road Less Traveled" Sam Hunt - "Body Like A Back Road" Miranda Lambert - "Tin Man" Lady Antebellum - "You Look Good" Little Big Town - "Better Man" Midland - "Drinkin' Problem" RaeLynn - "Love Triangle" Thomas Rhett & Maren Morris - "Craving You" Keith Urban & Carrie Underwood - "The Fighter" Brett Young - "In Case You Didn't Know" Are these song semifinalists for Single of the Year or Song of the Year?
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Post by CoJoFan on Sept 2, 2017 15:22:39 GMT -5
^The email he sent me said Song of the Year.
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Post by seak05 on Sept 2, 2017 15:36:18 GMT -5
No Stapleton in songs doesn't really surprise me. Neither of those songs sold particularly as well, or caught on at radio. And in case of "either way" it's a cover*
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Post by fearlessarrow on Sept 2, 2017 15:44:41 GMT -5
I'm really surprised at Miranda getting snubbed (if it's true)!
I'm really happy to see "Love Triangle" in those list of finalist songs for Song of the Year. I don't know how much Song of the Year takes into account how much of a hit each song was, but I hope it can become one of the finalist songs and also hope the fact that it was less of a hit than any other song except "Tin Man" (but "Tin Man" is from Miranda so...) doesn't hurt the song's chances.
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Post by The Brazilian Guy 🇧🇷 on Sept 2, 2017 16:11:14 GMT -5
The fact that Miranda was pre-selected for Entertainer and Song (both which I would would feel less strange for her to miss) make the omission in Album even more bizarre
Also, if the Album list is indeed correct, the fact that Reba's gospel record was selected makes me wonder if she could score a Female Vocalist nom since she's the only women on that list
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Post by onebuffalo on Sept 2, 2017 16:19:09 GMT -5
The fact that Miranda was pre-selected for Entertainer and Song (both which I would would feel less strange for her to miss) make the omission in Album even more bizarre Also, if the Album list is indeed correct, the fact that Reba's gospel record was selected makes me wonder if she could score a Female Vocalist nom since she's the only women on that list I highly doubt Reba McEntire will get a Female nomination. I think her gospel album was nominated (if it survives) because it DID open at #1 on the country charts and almost produced a top 40 hit (Back To God).
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Post by stanches2318 on Sept 2, 2017 16:31:26 GMT -5
I'm confused? Why does Miranda get all the hype. I do like Tin Man and We Should Be Friends. IMO she's not the best.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 16:38:13 GMT -5
Here are some of my early thoughts.
I'm rather indifferent if in fact Miranda Lambert got omitted from Album of the year. I actually feel like this year's albums in terms of mainstream albums have been really great (Little Big Town ((this album is not a single friendly album but I like it as a whole)), Chris Stapleton, Zac Brown Band, Lady Antebellum and Aaron Watson).
As for Entertainer of the Year. I'm curious of which of those 9 would win. I feel like if he's nominated I could see Sam Hunt winning or Chris Stapleton. The others I'm not sure about.
Male Vocalist is as good of a guess as any. If Chris Stapleton gets male vocalist than I think Sam Hunt will win Entertainer.
Female Vocalist. I'd be shocked if Raelynn, Cassadee Pope or Karen Fairchild (seriously why?) get nominated. It's great to see the big 4 of Kelsea Ballerini, Miranda Lambert, Carrie Underwood and Maren Morris are all contenders as I guarntee that'll all be nominated. I'm still thinking Lauren Alaina will get that 5th slot. But I wouldn't be surprised if they did a token legend spot for Reba McEntire or critical darling Kacey Musgraves.
I get that it was huge. But Song of the Year just doesn't seem right for Sam Hunt or Lady Antebellum since neither song weren't the most well recieved songs (in terms of being hits Sam Hunt yeah we all know, but critically neither song was that well recieved).
My hope for Song of the Year is "Tin Man" "Road Less Traveled" "In Case You Didn't Know" "Better Man" "Drinkin Problem"
I do see Miranda Lambert, Brett Young and Little Big Town being nominated but I can see Sam Hunt or Keith/Carrie or both replacing Midland and Lauren Alaina. I can also see "Craving You" potentially getting in as well. I don't see "You Look Good" or "Love Triangle" in the mix (Lady Antebellum because it just doesn't fit in with the others and I don't see Raelynn getting in since I think her song is the most unknown out of them.
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Post by The Brazilian Guy 🇧🇷 on Sept 2, 2017 16:50:36 GMT -5
I'm confused? Why does Miranda get all the hype. I do like Tin Man and We Should Be Friends. IMO she's not the best. Because she's always at the top of her game producing one top quality album after the other (which unfortunately is something that can be said about few country artists these days) and "The Weight of These Wings" is no exception. In fact, I actually feel TWOTW is her artistic peak so far in her brilliant career, but having a very unique "mood", I can see why it might not be a everybody's cup of tea
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Post by thewp on Sept 2, 2017 18:54:33 GMT -5
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Post by loveofmusic on Sept 2, 2017 19:05:54 GMT -5
I'm really surprised at Miranda getting snubbed (if it's true)! I'm really happy to see "Love Triangle" in those list of finalist songs for Song of the Year. I don't know how much Song of the Year takes into account how much of a hit each song was, but I hope it can become one of the finalist songs and also hope the fact that it was less of a hit than any other song except "Tin Man" (but "Tin Man" is from Miranda so...) doesn't hurt the song's chances. I would think most songs that are nominated that wasn't a big hit on the charts will have trouble making the final ballot especially considering the competition since many were big hits. RaeLynn's not a CMA favorite either like Kacey Musgraves which will get nominated despite how well they chart. When Scotty McCreery was signed to a new label a couple weeks ago, several of the articles revealed that "Five More Minutes" was a semi-finalist for a CMA Award. If these nominations are correct, then that would mean his song was a semi-finalist for Single of the Year. I don't expect the song to make the final nominations just like I don't expect "Love Triangle" to either. For both Scotty & RaeLynn, I'm surprised they are semi-finalists because I wouldn't have expected either song especially over songs that were bigger hits &/or by bigger artists. I think they're both good songs just surprised that they made it. Also, Scotty's consideration as a semi-finalist I would consider very surprising since he didn't have a label to push for his nomination.
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Post by The Brazilian Guy 🇧🇷 on Sept 2, 2017 19:33:31 GMT -5
Seriously... I'm really hoping this is false info, but now seeing this, just made me lose a bit o hope
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Post by stanches2318 on Sept 2, 2017 19:34:59 GMT -5
How legit are these or are is it just TOC way of messing with people's minds.
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Post by seak05 on Sept 2, 2017 19:54:59 GMT -5
No way Taste of Country leaves out Miranda's album unless they're operating from this list.
Anyways Miranda will win FVOTY and Chris S will win MVOTY, they will both be well deserved wins, and are totally predictable.
I've already said I wish that Carrie would not get a FVOTY nomination. Other women have done more than her artistically this year, putting out albums & touring the whole year. Frankly I don't get why Carrie fans are so anxious to see her nominated just to lose to Miranda. She doesn't need the publicity, meanwhile the publicity & associated performing slot, could potentially do a lot more for a newer female artist. (Carrie will get nominated, that isn't a question, I just wish she wouldn't).
I hope Raelynn gets nominated for something, but not holding my breath, same with Lindsay Ell...Kelsea and Maren will get nominations, which is nice. Really hoping Lauren will too (& I think she will).
Body like a back road is such a huge hit that it's hard to see anything else winning, but it's such a nothing song lyrically... that ugh. Maybe it will lose.
Hoping to see Eric get a nomination for EOTY.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 20:02:58 GMT -5
No way Taste of Country leaves out Miranda's album unless they're operating from this list. Anyways Miranda will win FVOTY and Chris S will win MVOTY, they will both be well deserved wins, and are totally predictable. I've already said I wish that Carrie would not get a FVOTY nomination. Other women have done more than her artistically this year, putting out albums & touring the whole year. Frankly I don't get why Carrie fans are so anxious to see her nominated just to lose to Miranda. She doesn't need the publicity, meanwhile the publicity & associated performing slot, could potentially do a lot more for a newer female artist. (Carrie will get nominated, that isn't a question, I just wish she wouldn't). I hope Raelynn gets nominated for something, but not holding my breath, same with Lindsay Ell...Kelsea and Maren will get nominations, which is nice. Really hoping Lauren will too (& I think she will). Body like a back road is such a huge hit that it's hard to see anything else winning, but it's such a nothing song lyrically... that ugh. Maybe it will lose. Hoping to see Eric get a nomination for EOTY. I'm just gonna throw this out on why Carrie Underwood will get nominated. It would look really crappy if the CMAS decided not to nominate Carrie Underwood especially considering the fact that she's hosting it. It wouldn't be a good look at all. Also I think I said this before but what will bring in more viewers? Watch Carrie Underwood perform? Or watch Lindsay Ell perform? I understand your points but the CMA Awards care most about ratings and a new unknown female artist won't bring that at all. Carrie Underwood, Miranda Lambert, Kelsea Ballerini, and Maren Morris will.
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Post by seak05 on Sept 2, 2017 20:07:29 GMT -5
No way Taste of Country leaves out Miranda's album unless they're operating from this list. Anyways Miranda will win FVOTY and Chris S will win MVOTY, they will both be well deserved wins, and are totally predictable. I've already said I wish that Carrie would not get a FVOTY nomination. Other women have done more than her artistically this year, putting out albums & touring the whole year. Frankly I don't get why Carrie fans are so anxious to see her nominated just to lose to Miranda. She doesn't need the publicity, meanwhile the publicity & associated performing slot, could potentially do a lot more for a newer female artist. (Carrie will get nominated, that isn't a question, I just wish she wouldn't). I hope Raelynn gets nominated for something, but not holding my breath, same with Lindsay Ell...Kelsea and Maren will get nominations, which is nice. Really hoping Lauren will too (& I think she will). Body like a back road is such a huge hit that it's hard to see anything else winning, but it's such a nothing song lyrically... that ugh. Maybe it will lose. Hoping to see Eric get a nomination for EOTY. I'm just gonna throw this out on why Carrie Underwood will get nominated. It would look really crappy if the CMAS decided not to nominate Carrie Underwood especially considering the fact that she's hosting it. It wouldn't be a good look at all. Also I think I said this before but what will bring in more viewers? Watch Carrie Underwood perform? Or watch Lindsay Ell perform? I understand your points but the CMA Awards care most about ratings and a new unknown female artist won't bring that at all. Carrie Underwood, Miranda Lambert, Kelsea Ballerini, and Maren Morris will. brads not getting any nominations & he's also hosting. Also as host (& a multi time winner) Carrie is guaranteed a performance slot anyways.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 20:11:18 GMT -5
I'm just gonna throw this out on why Carrie Underwood will get nominated. It would look really crappy if the CMAS decided not to nominate Carrie Underwood especially considering the fact that she's hosting it. It wouldn't be a good look at all. Also I think I said this before but what will bring in more viewers? Watch Carrie Underwood perform? Or watch Lindsay Ell perform? I understand your points but the CMA Awards care most about ratings and a new unknown female artist won't bring that at all. Carrie Underwood, Miranda Lambert, Kelsea Ballerini, and Maren Morris will. Brads not getting any nominations & he's also hosting. Also as host (& a multi time winner) Carrie is guaranteed a performance slot anyways. That's because for Brad Paisley he's not one of the biggest male artists right now at all. Carrie Underwood is one of the biggest and only female stars in country music. It'd look real sketchy if she got zero nominations and kinda bad treatment of Carrie Underwood because she didn't really even slouch this year and she's hosting. She had two Top 5s on radio as well. It's better than about every other women did this year for country music.
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Post by Carrieufan34 on Sept 2, 2017 22:15:52 GMT -5
No way Taste of Country leaves out Miranda's album unless they're operating from this list. Anyways Miranda will win FVOTY and Chris S will win MVOTY, they will both be well deserved wins, and are totally predictable. I've already said I wish that Carrie would not get a FVOTY nomination. Other women have done more than her artistically this year, putting out albums & touring the whole year. Frankly I don't get why Carrie fans are so anxious to see her nominated just to lose to Miranda. She doesn't need the publicity, meanwhile the publicity & associated performing slot, could potentially do a lot more for a newer female artist. (Carrie will get nominated, that isn't a question, I just wish she wouldn't). I hope Raelynn gets nominated for something, but not holding my breath, same with Lindsay Ell...Kelsea and Maren will get nominations, which is nice. Really hoping Lauren will too (& I think she will). Body like a back road is such a huge hit that it's hard to see anything else winning, but it's such a nothing song lyrically... that ugh. Maybe it will lose. Hoping to see Eric get a nomination for EOTY. What is your problem with Carrie getting nominated for FVOTY?She's the reigning Female Vocalist of the year so it would only be natural that she get nominated for the award that she currently holds on to.You might not think that she doesn't need the publicity,but for ANY artist,new or established,is always a good thing because it keeps their names out there even if they haven't been putting out new music or touring as much this year & it gives them momentum when she does start putting out new music & touring again.To even insinuate that she shouldn't be nominated is insulting to me& it's an insult to who I think is incredibly talented as an artist & vocalist.Besides Miranda,Carrie is the only female country artist to keep putting out consistently high sales every time she releases a new album.I almost think that you think she isn't talented enough to even get nominated for an award & that's absurd.I must be crazy for thinking that,right?
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Post by recordyear on Sept 2, 2017 22:53:17 GMT -5
Actually the polls they are making about CMA awards nominees match the info from the DJ.
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Post by thewp on Sept 2, 2017 23:06:25 GMT -5
Actually the polls they are making about CMA awards nominees match the info from the DJ. That's literally the same thing I said.
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Post by stanches2318 on Sept 2, 2017 23:36:20 GMT -5
No way Taste of Country leaves out Miranda's album unless they're operating from this list. Anyways Miranda will win FVOTY and Chris S will win MVOTY, they will both be well deserved wins, and are totally predictable. I've already said I wish that Carrie would not get a FVOTY nomination. Other women have done more than her artistically this year, putting out albums & touring the whole year. Frankly I don't get why Carrie fans are so anxious to see her nominated just to lose to Miranda. She doesn't need the publicity, meanwhile the publicity & associated performing slot, could potentially do a lot more for a newer female artist. (Carrie will get nominated, that isn't a question, I just wish she wouldn't). I hope Raelynn gets nominated for something, but not holding my breath, same with Lindsay Ell...Kelsea and Maren will get nominations, which is nice. Really hoping Lauren will too (& I think she will). Body like a back road is such a huge hit that it's hard to see anything else winning, but it's such a nothing song lyrically... that ugh. Maybe it will lose. Hoping to see Eric get a nomination for EOTY. What is your problem with Carrie getting nominated for FVOTY?She's the reigning Female Vocalist of the year so it would only be natural that she get nominated for the award that she currently holds on to.You might not think that she doesn't need the publicity,but for ANY artist,new or established,is always a good thing because it keeps their names out there even if they haven't been putting out new music or touring as much this year & it gives them momentum when she does start putting out new music & touring again.To even insinuate that she shouldn't be nominated is insulting to me& it's an insult to who I think is incredibly talented as an artist & vocalist.Besides Miranda,Carrie is the only female country artist to keep putting out consistently high sales every time she releases a new album.I almost think that you think she isn't talented enough to even get nominated for an award & that's absurd.I must be crazy for thinking that,right? The bottom line is that the 5 females should be Carrie, Kelsea, Lauren, Maren and Miranda. Anybody but those 5 would be wrong. I hope it's not like ACMs where they throw in Kacey when she did nothing by herself, Nothing against Kacey, it's just that she doesn't deserve a nod this yr.
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Post by BackwoodsBarbie on Sept 3, 2017 3:48:30 GMT -5
I hope Reba gets nominated for FVOTY because it's almost impossible for older female singers to get nominated in EOTY or FVOTY category. It would certainly be a nice surprise.
It'll be just wrong if The Weight of These Wings really doesn't get nomination for Album of the year. I know that Miranda won awards in the past that she didn't deserve and If academy thinks that they will redeem themselves for past mistakes by not nominating her this year they are delusional. Two wrongs don't make a right.
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Post by seak05 on Sept 3, 2017 6:40:22 GMT -5
Cripes people, no you shouldn't get nominated for awards just bc you're a big name. That's my entire point/that's the entire problem. Adele is a big name, here's how many Grammy noms she'll prob get - 0. Awards show noms should be based on body of work in the qualifying period. But this cycle of we can only have 2-3 big name female stars & then we just keep nominating the same people, is part of why women in country music are so stagnant.
Kacey getting a nom last yr was a joke, so was Miranda. This yr is an off cycle for Carrie & Maren. Kelsea had the biggest radio hit (lead artist) & several women put out great albums, Natalie Hemby, Sunny Sweeney to name two. Raelynn doubled Lauren's first week album sales. I think they both deserve a nod.
Is it going to happen? No. But we need to get out of this mentality if you get a nomination bc you're a big name if you're a woman. It's stale & it's killing women in the genre -- even in a packed field for guys, you see some new names getting honored. Chris Stapleton doesn't becomes a star if he doesn't get nominated.
Carrie (& maren) can come back next yr kill us with a great album & get the nomination. (Oh & btw what in earth does this have to do with bit thinking Carrie is talented enough for a nomination, the world does not revolve around Carrie. I said the same thing last yr about Miranda & hoped Carrie would win).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2017 9:30:34 GMT -5
Ok seak05 Im gonna challenge this whole body of work thing. Carrie Underwood had two more Top 5s on radio with "Dirty Laundry" and "The Fighter" the latter which was one of the biggest hits this year. Maren Morris had three credited Top 20 hits with "80s Mercedes", "I Could Use A Love Song", and her feature on "Craving You". Both "Craving You" and "The Fighter" were huge hits so really Carrie Underwood and Maren Morris have the biggest female hits of 2017 this year. While neither song is on said female artists albums it should still count because it does represent the overall body of work. Natalie Hemby isn't even on a major label so besides an album release she has nothing. Raelynn's overall body of work is a Top 30 and pretty good album sales. Kelsea Ballerini has a decent body of work with a Top 5 in "Yeah Boy" and I think "Peter Pan" counts but I'm not sure, and she also hosted the CMA Music Festival. Miranda Lambert and Lauren Alaina also have . Lauren Alaina has two Top 10s and a decent album release as she had ok sales. Miranda Lambert won a Grammy I feel like seak05 you think in order to be nominated you have to release an album within the timeframe and those artists that don't do that shouldn't really be considered. Carrie Underwood's body of work is a lot more than an artist like a Lindsay Ell or a Raelynn. Also to suggest Maren Morris shouldn't be nominated is mind boggling since she's been on the radio has the most hits out of any of the women this year besides maybe Carrie Underwood and is already an award show darling. Body of work also shows that Carrie Underwood and Maren Morris have both done enough to easily get nominated. Why should the award shows nominate some unknown artist when it's supposed to represent the best of the best this year in terms of impact?
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Sept 3, 2017 9:46:04 GMT -5
Cripes people, no you shouldn't get nominated for awards just bc you're a big name. That's my entire point/that's the entire problem. Adele is a big name, here's how many Grammy noms she'll prob get - 0. Awards show noms should be based on body of work in the qualifying period. But this cycle of we can only have 2-3 big name female stars & then we just keep nominating the same people, is part of why women in country music are so stagnant. Kacey getting a nom last yr was a joke, so was Miranda. This yr is an off cycle for Carrie & Maren. Kelsea had the biggest radio hit (lead artist) & several women put out great albums, Natalie Hemby, Sunny Sweeney to name two. Raelynn doubled Lauren's first week album sales. I think they both deserve a nod. Is it going to happen? No. But we need to get out of this mentality if you get a nomination bc you're a big name if you're a woman. It's stale & it's killing women in the genre -- even in a packed field for guys, you see some new names getting honored. Chris Stapleton doesn't becomes a star if he doesn't get nominated. Carrie (& maren) can come back next yr kill us with a great album & get the nomination. (Oh & btw what in earth does this have to do with bit thinking Carrie is talented enough for a nomination, the world does not revolve around Carrie. I said the same thing last yr about Miranda & hoped Carrie would win). No. Award shows not recognizing new female artists is not why we don't have new women that are successful in country music. The industry's belief that country radio listeners don't want to hear women on the radio is the reason we don't have more new female artists that are successful in the genre. The purpose of award shows is not to bring recognition to new/unknown artists so that they become popular; the purpose is to recognize artists who have been successful for their contribution to the genre. This is why Brandy Clark and Lindsay Ell are not going to get a nomination over Carrie. They don't deserve it. Now, if Carrie doesn't release a new single within the next year, I will absolutely be in the same boat as you saying that she doesn't deserve a nomination, however, when there are only 4 women in the genre that can consistently hit the top 30 with every release (Kelsea, Maren, Miranda, Carrie [not counting Lauren since What Ifs is a feature) and have all done so at least twice in the past year, they deserve a spot. A well-received album doesn't just mean that an artist with no radio or sales success deserves a spot over someone who has had immense radio success over the past year. The reason that Chris Stapleton was nominated and won a few years back wasn't to propel him to stardom - the industry knew and loved him. Traveller was released and everyone knew how incredible it was. It got nominated for Album of the Year at the Grammy's after all. RaeLynn, Brandy, Lindsay, Natalie, etc. that you are proposing are not going to earn that nomination. If a female ever comes around with that kind of buzz that Chris had within the industry, then she probably will get a nomination over some of the "regulars" in the genre. However, none of your suggestions even come close to that caliber of hype. I understand your dislike for the lack of successful females in the genre. Believe me, 90% of this board is as upset about it as you are. But the award nominations at the CMAs is not the platform to recognize them. Now, I'm all for giving some of these women performance slots at the show to get heard, but an undeserved nomination is not what they need.
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Post by stanches2318 on Sept 3, 2017 10:42:21 GMT -5
Why can't the award shows go by which singers did he best in the genre in the year? When I project something like this I try to be fair, either I like an artist or not. That's the way the board should pick the singers for the awards.
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Post by 14887fan on Sept 3, 2017 10:44:06 GMT -5
Cripes people, no you shouldn't get nominated for awards just bc you're a big name. That's my entire point/that's the entire problem. Adele is a big name, here's how many Grammy noms she'll prob get - 0. Awards show noms should be based on body of work in the qualifying period. But this cycle of we can only have 2-3 big name female stars & then we just keep nominating the same people, is part of why women in country music are so stagnant. Kacey getting a nom last yr was a joke, so was Miranda. This yr is an off cycle for Carrie & Maren. Kelsea had the biggest radio hit (lead artist) & several women put out great albums, Natalie Hemby, Sunny Sweeney to name two. Raelynn doubled Lauren's first week album sales. I think they both deserve a nod. Is it going to happen? No. But we need to get out of this mentality if you get a nomination bc you're a big name if you're a woman. It's stale & it's killing women in the genre -- even in a packed field for guys, you see some new names getting honored. Chris Stapleton doesn't becomes a star if he doesn't get nominated. Carrie (& maren) can come back next yr kill us with a great album & get the nomination. (Oh & btw what in earth does this have to do with bit thinking Carrie is talented enough for a nomination, the world does not revolve around Carrie. I said the same thing last yr about Miranda & hoped Carrie would win). You really don't get it.
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Post by seak05 on Sept 3, 2017 14:11:55 GMT -5
Ok try doing it this way, you have to start by taking the names out of it: for each of the categories choose the criteria you think should be important & how much it should be weighted. Each category should have its own criteria (some overlap allowed, the criteria should remain roughly consistent from yr to yr, & if a male & female version exist, criteria should be basically the same for both genders. Also keep in mind the awards show, so billboard & iheart don't have same criteria as cma's etc.
For me vocalist of the year is primarily about the music, so albums + singles + live shows. It's about both the objective (sales) & subjective (quality). Radio is more ancillary (seriously do we really want to put Move over Vice & Tin Man just bc radio?), but factors in a bit.
So yes, someone who had one song that didn't go platinum (sorry but songs that you don't perform bc you don't even have your own verse don't count) & isn't regarded as a top quality song & half a tour will be generally behind people who put out albums & tour for the whole yr. If you think it should be based mostly on radio succes ok, I think Luke had 3 #1's in the eligibility period.
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Post by stanches2318 on Sept 3, 2017 14:43:10 GMT -5
Ok try doing it this way, you have to start by taking the names out of it: for each of the categories choose the criteria you think should be important & how much it should be weighted. Each category should have its own criteria (some overlap allowed, the criteria should remain roughly consistent from yr to yr, & if a male & female version exist, criteria should be basically the same for both genders. Also keep in mind the awards show, so billboard & iheart don't have same criteria as cma's etc. For me vocalist of the year is primarily about the music, so albums + singles + live shows. It's about both the objective (sales) & subjective (quality). Radio is more ancillary (seriously do we really want to put Move over Vice & Tin Man just bc radio?), but factors in a bit. So yes, someone who had one song that didn't go platinum (sorry but songs that you don't perform bc you don't even have your own verse don't count) & isn't regarded as a top quality song & half a tour will be generally behind people who put out albums & tour for the whole yr. If you think it should be based mostly on radio succes ok, I think Luke had 3 #1's in the eligibility period. Just for my curiosity who is your fav singer since your profile pic is blank?.
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