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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Sept 3, 2017 14:59:23 GMT -5
First of all, yes, "The Fighter" does count. She doesn't sing the verses, but she sings the chorus with Keith, was heavily featured in the music video, and performed it live at two major award shows. And it has her name on it, so it's really not an argument.
Second, radio certainly plays a bigger role in nominations than you think since it is still the gateway to success in the genre for 99% of artists. The only award category that really doesn't rely on commercial success is the Song of the Year category, (where Tin Man certainly deserves a nomination over Move), but then categories like Single of the Year operate predominately on commercial success (and Move certainly deserves a spot here before Tin Man does). Other than the Single/Song categories, the other main ones will factor in both quality and quantity.
Third, Carrie's "half a tour" probably sold more tickets than the solo shows from all of the rest of the women that you mentioned combined. "Dirty Laundry" was also a certified Gold 4th single off an album that had already gone platinum prior to it's release. "The Fighter" was also a certified gold single and the 5th single off another album that was certified platinum prior to the songs release. So both "Dirty Laundry" and "The Fighter" have sold more individually than practically all of the singles from the women you are suggesting to take Carrie's spot in this award.
Fourth, it isn't like Carrie has no critical acclaim to her name either. So even if your argument is quality over quantity, she still would be a likely contender for one of the top 5 spots for the award. Just because its the CMAs doesn't mean that chart performance shouldn't play a large role in deciding who wins/gets nominated. Carrie was still promoting a critically acclaimed platinum certified album, had a top 2 gold certified single from said album, also had a successful highly promoted gold certified duet, and was finishing up her critically acclaimed wildly attended national tour all within the eligibility period. I just truly fail to see how someone like RaeLynn (who has the greatest argument against Carrie) who did have a critically acclaimed album, but has sold less than 40,000 copies, barely had a top 30 single that isn't even halfway to becoming gold certified, and has been opening up for Blake (only in between The Voice seasons) and not headlining her own tour even holds a candle to Carrie.
PS, Luke absolutely deserves a nomination for Male Vocalist at the very least based off the year he's had. I hated most of his singles, but there's no denying he's been one of the most popular males in the genre this year, just like there's no denying that Carrie was one of the most popular females.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2017 15:09:01 GMT -5
zaclord 🌈 it's post like these that are just the best. To kind of add to what you said Carrie Underwood maintained a consistent prescence this year. For the most part she was on the charts most of the time and it's hard for an award show that Carrie Underwood is hosting for her not to be nominated when she also has two Top 5s in the eligibility period as well.
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Post by seak05 on Sept 3, 2017 15:16:16 GMT -5
I put a lot more weight on tour stuff for the eoty race, how do you differentiate? I also put tv stuff like snf in there, + sales. That's why I said last yr Carrie should win both eoty & fvoty & all the Carrie fans loved me, but she got credit for the album last yr, can't double dip.
Oh & I don't have a favorite singer? I have people I tend to like, but mostly I like albums or songs. And often the people whose music I like, I tend to think I wouldn't want to be friends with.
The best album I think I heard this yr was probably Rhiannon giddens, but It's not my most played.
(As an aside raelynn headlined her own tour last yr after opening for Blake, albeit at much smaller venues).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2017 15:31:59 GMT -5
I put a lot more weight on tour stuff for the eoty race, how do you differentiate? I also put tv stuff like snf in there, + sales. That's why I said last yr Carrie should win both eoty & fvoty & all the Carrie fans loved me, but she got credit for the album last yr, can't double dip. Oh & I don't have a favorite singer? I have people I tend to like, but mostly I like albums or songs. And often the people whose music I like, I tend to think I wouldn't want to be friends with. The best album I think I heard this yr was probably Rhiannon giddens, but It's not my most played. (As an aside raelynn headlined her own tour last yr after opening for Blake, albeit at much smaller venues). I say for me overall body of work (radio success and impact in addition to other venues like hosting stuff and how big touring goes) goes into both Entertainer of the year and Male/Female vocalist. That's why Carrie Underwood deserves her nomination over a Raelynn or a Lindsay Ell. Not to mention the shows Carrie Underwood headlines are a lot bigger than Raelynn as you pointed out, which furthers why Carrie Underwood should be nominated and Raelynn shouldn't. I also believe album eras carry over year to year until that album era is irrelevant to the timeframe award shows use. That's why in my opinion Storyteller is still relevant to this award show cause "Dirty Laundry" counts as its chart run happened in the time frame. So there's plenty of double dipping in my opinion. There's something off about you saying "and all the Carrie fans loved me" comes off as Carrie Underwood fans only care about Carrie Underwood, which is not true. I hope and assume that wasn't your intention though.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Sept 3, 2017 15:36:41 GMT -5
Bringing the conversation back to things that might actually happen. I think that Maren is the frontrunner for Female Vocalist this year. However, I think her being on Sony may prevent that from happening. We all know that when it comes down to the final votes, the labels rally behind one of their artists and pull support from the other (for specific categories at least) in order to attempt to put all of their eggs in one basket. This is why Miranda won FVOTY for years even when Carrie was more deserving (both were on Sony). Now, Maren is also on Sony and probably has had the biggest year out of any female in the genre, but will Sony want to put all their eggs in Miranda's basket in fear of losing to Carrie or Kelsea if they put all their eggs in Maren's? I think its a Miranda vs Maren race and hoping Maren can pull off the win. Between her Grammy win, Best New Artist nomination, stellar duet with Alicia Keys, plus "80's Mercedes" and "I Could Use a Love Song" being top 15 hits and "Craving You" being huge, and her win last year at the CMAs - she certainly has momentum on her side. But Miranda is Miranda...
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Post by seak05 on Sept 3, 2017 15:50:05 GMT -5
I put a lot more weight on tour stuff for the eoty race, how do you differentiate? I also put tv stuff like snf in there, + sales. That's why I said last yr Carrie should win both eoty & fvoty & all the Carrie fans loved me, but she got credit for the album last yr, can't double dip. Oh & I don't have a favorite singer? I have people I tend to like, but mostly I like albums or songs. And often the people whose music I like, I tend to think I wouldn't want to be friends with. The best album I think I heard this yr was probably Rhiannon giddens, but It's not my most played. (As an aside raelynn headlined her own tour last yr after opening for Blake, albeit at much smaller venues). I say for me overall body of work (radio success and impact in addition to other venues like hosting stuff and how big touring goes) goes into both Entertainer of the year and Male/Female vocalist. That's why Carrie Underwood deserves her nomination over a Raelynn or a Lindsay Ell. Not to mention the shows Carrie Underwood headlines are a lot bigger than Raelynn as you pointed out, which furthers why Carrie Underwood should be nominated and Raelynn shouldn't. I also believe album eras carry over year to year until that album era is irrelevant to the timeframe award shows use. That's why in my opinion Storyteller is still relevant to this award show cause "Dirty Laundry" counts as its chart run happened in the time frame. So there's plenty of double dipping in my opinion. There's something off about you saying "and all the Carrie fans loved me" comes off as Carrie Underwood fans only care about Carrie Underwood, which is not true. I hope and assume that wasn't your intention though. I think Carrie fans liked what I was saying a lot this ur, & hate it this yr, & my criteria hasn't changed. Also maren is with caa (like Carrie) Miranda is with wme, awards shows aren't about labels they're about agencies. And if maren beats Miranda this yr it's all about politics & nothing to do with merit (which wouldn't be news, but is why I think the country awards are massively broken).
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Post by seak05 on Sept 3, 2017 15:51:19 GMT -5
I put a lot more weight on tour stuff for the eoty race, how do you differentiate? I also put tv stuff like snf in there, + sales. That's why I said last yr Carrie should win both eoty & fvoty & all the Carrie fans loved me, but she got credit for the album last yr, can't double dip. Oh & I don't have a favorite singer? I have people I tend to like, but mostly I like albums or songs. And often the people whose music I like, I tend to think I wouldn't want to be friends with. The best album I think I heard this yr was probably Rhiannon giddens, but It's not my most played. (As an aside raelynn headlined her own tour last yr after opening for Blake, albeit at much smaller venues). I say for me overall body of work (radio success and impact in addition to other venues like hosting stuff and how big touring goes) goes into both Entertainer of the year and Male/Female vocalist. That's why Carrie Underwood deserves her nomination over a Raelynn or a Lindsay Ell. Not to mention the shows Carrie Underwood headlines are a lot bigger than Raelynn as you pointed out, which furthers why Carrie Underwood should be nominated and Raelynn shouldn't. I also believe album eras carry over year to year until that album era is irrelevant to the timeframe award shows use. That's why in my opinion Storyteller is still relevant to this award show cause "Dirty Laundry" counts as its chart run happened in the time frame. So there's plenty of double dipping in my opinion. There's something off about you saying "and all the Carrie fans loved me" comes off as Carrie Underwood fans only care about Carrie Underwood, which is not true. I hope and assume that wasn't your intention though. I think Carrie fans like Carrie & want to see her get awards. They liked what I was saying a lot last yr & hate it this yr, & my criteria hasn't changed. Also maren is with caa (like Carrie) Miranda is with wme, awards shows aren't about labels they're about agencies. And if maren beats Miranda this yr it's all about politics & nothing to do with merit (which wouldn't be news, but is why I think the country awards are massively broken).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2017 15:51:59 GMT -5
zaclord 🌈 just a little clarification I don't think "I Could Use A Love Song" has hit the Top 15. Everything else you said definitely applies though. Could we see Kelsea Ballerini as a dark horse contender to wim? I think "Peter Pan" was wrapping up its chart run but it was still a really big hit in its own right and "Yeah Boy" was a bigger hit than anything solo from Maren Morris. Also hosting the CMA Music Festival could help her. Luke I said she's nothing more than a dark horse contender but it's possible she could win. The "Craving You" factor is what's preventing me from thinking Kelsea Ballerini has a good shot. I am excited to see who gets nominated where. I just really hope Lauren Alaina can pick up a couple of nominations.
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Post by bboat11 on Sept 3, 2017 15:54:15 GMT -5
Just an observation, but to me it seems like seak05 is telling us her personal preferences for what criteria the vocalist awards should be based upon, while a lot of us are reacting as if she is attempting to provide a bass-ackwards interpretation of what the current rules are. She has said repeatedly in this thread (and the "Doin' Fine" thread) that she enjoys Carrie Underwood, but doesn't think she has done enough this year to deserve a nomination. The fact is that based on the actual criteria of the award, Carrie absolutely deserves a nomination. There is no room for argument with that statement. But when you start throwing in stipulations like "songs where the artist doesn't actually sing a verse don't actually count", or "I put touring stuff and tv stuff under the category of Entertainer rather than female vocalist", then an argument starts to make sense for why Carrie wouldn't be deserving of a nomination... It seems to me like a way to thin Carrie's contributions of the past year out in an attempt to prove that she didn't do as much as usual. The underlying argument here is that the CMA rules should be changed so that more artists have a chance. Which in general is something I would imagine that most of us agree with. However, seak05, considering the fact that Carrie Underwood was indeed one of, if not THE most successful female artist(s) this past year, and you basically have to bend the qualification criteria to where they are not even remotely resembling what the CMA awards actually uses before you can even make an argument that Carrie should not be nominated, I would suggest that this argument about Carrie not being worthy of a vocalist nom is probably not worth dying on the hill over... Everyone else, seak05 is merely expressing opinions. We are combatting them with facts, because we feel like we are "right" (because we are, based on the current eligibility rules), but in the end we are obviously not going to change her mind, because in her mind she is also right. Because her argument is not primarily about Carrie, her argument is that the CMA rules should be changed to be more fair in their treatment of women. Carrie just happens to be the first victim of what would happen if the CMA suddenly changed their criteria. Continuing to argue about it is just going to make people mad, and clog up this thread with more useless stats for why Carrie will be nominated for the award that we pretty much all know already that she will be nominated for. Carrie really doesn't need us to come to her defense here, because her musical contributions from the past year will do all the work for her when she scores her 12th consecutive Female Vocalist nomination tomorrow.
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Post by seak05 on Sept 3, 2017 16:09:40 GMT -5
bboat11 for the record I said Miranda shouldn't have been nominated last year. And I acknowledge that carrienhas had. Number one song this yr, I just don't think 1 #1 song is doing more than releasing an album (and both albums and songs are included in criteria, as is everything else). How you weight anything is personal preference. But I put out there how I weighted & what I weighted, if you want to weight it based on radio that's fine, just be called naistent & say Chris shouldn't win 😜 (actually I said last yr Chris also didn't deserve a nomination.....). Anyways I'm curious who will get the male vocalist spots. I'd really like to see something for pardi & I think Brett young will do well. I'm guessing: Chris, Thomas, Brett, Keith & a fifth (Btw I'm not saying the Miranda/chris thing to be argumentative, I'm doing it to point out it's not personal about Carrie & it's not new. I'm looking at it the same way this yr as I did last yr, but a lot of people on here seem to think it's personal about Carrie).
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Sept 3, 2017 16:09:58 GMT -5
zaclord 🌈 just a little clarification I don't think "I Could Use A Love Song" has hit the Top 15. Everything else you said definitely applies though. Could we see Kelsea Ballerini as a dark horse contender to wim? I think "Peter Pan" was wrapping up its chart run but it was still a really big hit in its own right and "Yeah Boy" was a bigger hit than anything solo from Maren Morris. Also hosting the CMA Music Festival could help her. Luke I said she's nothing more than a dark horse contender but it's possible she could win. The "Craving You" factor is what's preventing me from thinking Kelsea Ballerini has a good shot. I am excited to see who gets nominated where. I just really hope Lauren Alaina can pick up a couple of nominations. It's close and almost certainly will get at least top 15 so I rounded up ![:-P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) It'll be there before the final round of voting ends most likely, and definitely before the show in November.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2017 16:11:15 GMT -5
zaclord 🌈 just a little clarification I don't think "I Could Use A Love Song" has hit the Top 15. Everything else you said definitely applies though. Could we see Kelsea Ballerini as a dark horse contender to wim? I think "Peter Pan" was wrapping up its chart run but it was still a really big hit in its own right and "Yeah Boy" was a bigger hit than anything solo from Maren Morris. Also hosting the CMA Music Festival could help her. Luke I said she's nothing more than a dark horse contender but it's possible she could win. The "Craving You" factor is what's preventing me from thinking Kelsea Ballerini has a good shot. I am excited to see who gets nominated where. I just really hope Lauren Alaina can pick up a couple of nominations. It's close and almost certainly will get at least top 15 so I rounded up ![:-P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) It'll be there before the final round of voting ends most likely, and definitely before the show in November. Oh I agree. I was just being a smart*ss.
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Post by thewp on Sept 3, 2017 16:17:03 GMT -5
I say for me overall body of work (radio success and impact in addition to other venues like hosting stuff and how big touring goes) goes into both Entertainer of the year and Male/Female vocalist. That's why Carrie Underwood deserves her nomination over a Raelynn or a Lindsay Ell. Not to mention the shows Carrie Underwood headlines are a lot bigger than Raelynn as you pointed out, which furthers why Carrie Underwood should be nominated and Raelynn shouldn't. I also believe album eras carry over year to year until that album era is irrelevant to the timeframe award shows use. That's why in my opinion Storyteller is still relevant to this award show cause "Dirty Laundry" counts as its chart run happened in the time frame. So there's plenty of double dipping in my opinion. There's something off about you saying "and all the Carrie fans loved me" comes off as Carrie Underwood fans only care about Carrie Underwood, which is not true. I hope and assume that wasn't your intention though. I think Carrie fans like Carrie & want to see her get awards. They liked what I was saying a lot last yr & hate it this yr, & my criteria hasn't changed. Also maren is with caa (like Carrie) Miranda is with wme, awards shows aren't about labels they're about agencies. And if maren beats Miranda this yr it's all about politics & nothing to do with merit (which wouldn't be news, but is why I think the country awards are massively broken). Country awards are all about politics, merit isn't a consideration. That's why I don't feel sorry for Miranda fans who are now harping on merit when Miranda's won in years she shouldn't have even been nominated. At some point, labels and agencies need to start pushing the next generation, and Maren is Sony's best bet. Also, no more Dierks please.
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Post by The Brazilian Guy 🇧🇷 on Sept 3, 2017 16:29:15 GMT -5
Is it just me or are you guys just repeating the same things over and over again?![](https://media.tenor.com/images/aa9c780acd020eaa5b11322b869f67fa/tenor.gif)
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Post by mjustins on Sept 4, 2017 0:26:19 GMT -5
Lol, this is a fun thread. Not looking at the semi-finalist nominations and the BS CMA award descriptions and requirements, here's my finalists:
Entertainer of the Year Garth Brooks (winner) Luke Bryan Sam Hunt Eric Church Florida Georgia Line I do view this as an award based on concerts and tours first, with radio success being second, so Garth wins, again.
Male Vocalist of the Year Luke Bryan (winner) Jason Aldean Sam Hunt Dierks Bentley Jon Pardi
Female Vocalist of the Year Miranda Lambert (winner) Carrie Underwood Maren Morris Kelsea Ballerini Reba
Group of the Year Old Dominion (winner) Zac Brown Band Little Big Town Lady Antebellum Rascal Flatts I guess we're just going to keep copying and pasting this group of groups every year. Unless someone tries to pull a Band Perry that allows Midland to slide in. RIP The Band Perry
Duo of the Year Florida Georgia Line (winner) Brothers Osborne Dan + Shay Big & Rich High Valley Rough category this year. RIP Maddie & Tae
New Artist of the Year Brett Young (winner) Luke Combs Lauren Alaina Carly Pearce Midland
Song of the Year "In Case You Didn't Know" - Brett Young (winner) "Every Little Thing" - Carly Pearce "Tin Man" - Miranda Lambert "Kill a Word" - Eric Church "Fast" - Luke Bryan Tough category to keep only five nominees. Really have a hard time nominating songs performed by others unless it's really, really good ("Humble and Kind"). Sorry "Better Man" and "Road Less Travelled."
Single of the Year "Body Like A Backroad" - Sam Hunt (winner) "In Case You Didn't Know" - Brett Young "Dirt on My Boots" - Jon Pardi "Craving You" - Thomas Rhett feat. Maren Morris "Hurricane" - Luke Combs Holy new and somewhat new artists, Batman. Really not a contest, but I would love it if Brett or Jon won. Funnily enough, BLAB, ICYDI, and Hurricane all topped the charts after each other. I think I hear "Hurricane" the same amount of times per day that I did when it went #1.
Album of the Year Weight Of These Wings - Miranda Lambert (winner) From A Room, Vol. 1 - Chris Stapleton Sing It Now: Songs of Faith & Hope - Reba McEntire Welcome Home - Zac Brown Band The Nashville Sound - Jason Isbell
Winners at the top, other nominees not in any particular order.
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Post by seak05 on Sept 4, 2017 7:46:41 GMT -5
Not a big surprise but these nominations are a joke: Maddie & Tae? Honestly
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Post by avalyn on Sept 4, 2017 7:59:23 GMT -5
Final Nominees via musicrow.com, underlined is last years winners.
Entertainer of the Year Garth Brooks Luke Bryan Eric Church Keith Urban Chris Stapleton
Female Vocalist of the Year Kelsea Ballerini Miranda Lambert Reba McEntire Maren Morris Carrie Underwood
Male Vocalist of the Year Dierks Bentley Eric Church Thomas Rhett Chris Stapleton Keith Urban
New Artist of the Year Luke Combs Old Dominion Jon Pardi Brett Young Lauren Alaina
Music Video of the Year “Better Man,” Little Big Town “Blue Ain’t Your Color,” Keith Urban “Craving You,” Thomas Rhett ft. Maren Morris “Vice,” Miranda Lambert “It Ain’t My Fault,” Brothers Osborne
Vocal Duo of the Year Dan+Shay Florida Georgia Line LOCASH Maddie & Tae Brothers Osborne
Single of the Year (Award goes to the artist, producer(s), and mix engineer(s))
“Better Man” – Little Big Town; Producer(s): Jay Joyce; Mix Engineer(s): Jason Hall, Jay Joyce “Blue Ain’t Your Color” – Keith Urban; Producer(s): Dann Huff, Keith Urban; Mix Engineer(s): Chris Lord-Alge “Body Like A Back Road” – Sam Hunt; Producer(s): Zach Crowell; Mix Engineer(s): Zach Crowell “Dirt On My Boots” – Jon Pardi; Producer(s): Bart Butler, Jon Pardi; Mix Engineer(s): Ryan Gore “Tin Man” – Miranda Lambert; Producer(s): Frank Liddell, Eric Masse, Glenn Worf; Mix Engineer(s): Eric Masse
Album of the Year (Award goes to the artist and producer(s))
The Breaker – Little Big Town; Producer(s): Jay Joyce From A Room: Volume 1 – Chris Stapleton; Producer(s): Dave Cobb, Chris Stapleton Heart Break-Lady Antebellum; Producer(s): busbee The Nashville Sound – Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit; Producer(s): Dave Cobb The Weight of These Wings – Miranda Lambert; Producer(s): Frank Liddell, Glenn Worf, Eric Masse
Song of the Year (Award goes to the songwriter(s))
“Better Man” — Songwriter(s): Taylor Swift “Blue Ain’t Your Color” — Songwriter(s): Clint Lagerberg, Hillary Lindsey, Steven Olsen “Body Like A Back Road” — Songwriter(s): Zach Crowell, Sam Hunt, Shane McAnally, Josh Osborne “Dirt On My Boots” — Songwriter(s): Rhett Akins, Jesse Frasure, Ashley Gorley “Tin Man” — Songwriter(s): Jack Ingram, Miranda Lambert, Jon Randall
Vocal Group of the Year (Award goes to the group)
Lady Antebellum Little Big Town Old Dominion Rascal Flatts Zac Brown Band
Musical Event of the Year (Award goes to each artist)
Craving You – Thomas Rhett (feat. Maren Morris) Funny How Time Slips Away – Glen Campbell with Willie Nelson Kill A Word – Eric Church (feat. Rhiannon Giddens) Setting the World on Fire – Kenny Chesney (with P!nk) Speak to a Girl-Tim McGraw & Faith Hill
Musician Of The Year (Award goes to the musician)
Jerry Douglas (Dobro) Paul Franklin (Steel Guitar) Dann Huff (Guitar) Mac McAnally (Guitar) Derek Wells (Guitar)
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Post by The Brazilian Guy 🇧🇷 on Sept 4, 2017 8:02:08 GMT -5
NOMINEES ARE OUT!!! ENTERTAINER OF THE YEARGarth Brooks Luke Bryan Eric Church Chris Stapleton Keith Urban SINGLE OF THE YEAR“Better Man” - Little Big Town Producer(s): Jay Joyce; Mix Engineer(s): Jason Hall, Jay Joyce “Blue Ain’t Your Color” – Keith Urban; Producer(s): Dann Huff, Keith Urban; Mix Engineer(s): Chris Lord-Alge “Body Like A Back Road” – Sam Hunt; Producer(s): Zach Crowell; Mix Engineer(s): Zach Crowell “Dirt On My Boots” – Jon Pardi; Producer(s): Bart Butler, Jon Pardi; Mix Engineer(s): Ryan Gore “Tin Man” – Miranda Lambert; Producer(s): Frank Liddell, Eric Masse, Glenn Worf; Mix Engineer(s): Eric Masse ALBUM OF THE YEAR
The Breaker – Little Big Town; Producer(s): Jay Joyce From A Room: Volume 1 – Chris Stapleton; Producer(s): Dave Cobb, Chris Stapleton Heart Break – Lady Antebellum; Producer(s): busbee The Nashville Sound - Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit; Producer(s): Dave Cobb The Weight of These Wings – Miranda Lambert; Producer(s): Frank Liddell, Glenn Worf, Eric Masse SONG OF THE YEAR“Better Man” -- Songwriter(s): Taylor Swift “Blue Ain’t Your Color” -- Songwriter(s): Clint Lagerberg, Hillary Lindsey, Steven Olsen “Body Like A Back Road” -- Songwriter(s): Zach Crowell, Sam Hunt, Shane McAnally, Josh Osborne “Dirt On My Boots” -- Songwriter(s): Rhett Akins, Jesse Frasure, Ashley Gorley “Tin Man” -- Songwriter(s): Jack Ingram, Miranda Lambert, Jon Randall FEMALE VOCALIST OF THE YEARKelsea Ballerini Miranda Lambert Reba McEntire Maren Morris Carrie Underwood MALE VOCALIST OF THE YEARDierks Bentley Eric Church Thomas Rhett Chris Stapleton Keith Urban VOCAL GROUP OF THE YEARLady Antebellum Little Big Town Old Dominion Rascal Flatts Zac Brown Band VOCAL DUO OF THE YEAR(Award goes to the duo) Dan + Shay Florida Georgia Line LOCASH Maddie & Tae Brothers Osborne MUSICAL EVENT OF THE YEARCraving You – Thomas Rhett (feat. Maren Morris) Funny How Time Slips Away - Glen Campbell with Willie Nelson Kill A Word - Eric Church (feat. Rhiannon Giddens) Setting the World on Fire - Kenny Chesney (with P!nk) Speak to a Girl - Tim McGraw & Faith Hill MUSICIAN OF THE YEARJerry Douglas (Dobro) Paul Franklin (Steel Guitar) Dann Huff (Guitar) Mac McAnally (Guitar) Derek Wells (Guitar) MUSIC VIDEO OF THE YEAR“Better Man” – Little Big Town “Blue Ain’t Your Color” – Keith Urban “Craving You” – Thomas Rhett (feat. Maren Morris) “Vice” – Miranda Lambert “It Ain’t My Fault” – Brothers Osborne NEW ARTIST OF THE YEAR AWARDLuke Combs Old Dominion Jon Pardi Brett Young Lauren Alaina
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 8:05:11 GMT -5
Besides the whole Maddie & Tae nomination for Vocal Duo, which I don't even mind since Vocal Duo is so barren. I don't mind these nominations all that much. I'm a little sad that Lauren Alaina didn't get more nominations, but I'm happy she did get nominated.
Overall as a whole these nominations aren't bad at all.
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Post by seak05 on Sept 4, 2017 8:06:05 GMT -5
Holy crap jason isbell's got a nom! That might be the cma shock ofnth decade (also it should win, it won't, but it should).
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Post by seak05 on Sept 4, 2017 8:10:27 GMT -5
Besides the whole Maddie & Tae nomination for Vocal Duo, which I don't even mind since Vocal Duo is so barren. I don't mind these nominations all that much. I'm a little sad that Lauren Alaina didn't get more nominations, but I'm happy she did get nominated. Overall as a whole these nominations aren't bad at all. Um, all male musicians of the yr (again) Vocal duo cmon at least nominate pple who have put out music, learn some new names Female, I love Reba but it was a Christian album, again learn some new names Male, Dierks honestly? No luke, Blake, sam, Brett, pardi Eoty again all male (but only case would be ml & her tour numbers are down) no Sam, happy to see Eric
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Post by The Brazilian Guy 🇧🇷 on Sept 4, 2017 8:11:47 GMT -5
YAY! Miranda leads with 5 nominations!!!
Really happy for all the love for Jon Pardi! 3 noms! I really hope he gets Best New Artist!
Eric nominated for Entertainer after last year's snub! So well deserved! Rooting for him!
Midland was probably too new for the CMAs, I guess... rooting for them next year!
I had a feeling Reba would get the 5th slot and Female Vocalist even tough i was persuaded to think otherwise lol
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 8:19:42 GMT -5
Besides the whole Maddie & Tae nomination for Vocal Duo, which I don't even mind since Vocal Duo is so barren. I don't mind these nominations all that much. I'm a little sad that Lauren Alaina didn't get more nominations, but I'm happy she did get nominated. Overall as a whole these nominations aren't bad at all. Um, all male musicians of the yr (again) Vocal duo cmon at least nominate pple who have put out music, learn some new names Female, I love Reba but it was a Christian album, again learn some new names Male, Dierks honestly? No luke, Blake, sam, Brett, pardi Eoty again all male (but only case would be ml & her tour numbers are down) no Sam, happy to see Eric Ok who should be in for Duo. The only artist I can see a swap for is Big & Rich and that's it. Luke Bryan had "Fast" and the tale end of "Move" that's it and neither song were that big. I will give you Brett Young to an extent but both Brett Young and Jon Pardi are way too new to be nominated yet for Male Vocalist and they don't have the industry love that Chris Stapleton, Dierks Bentley, and Eric Church have. All Male Musicians? I don't seem to recall their being many women musicians and that award isn't even broadcasted so it's not even that relevant. There is no case for a Female for Entertainer of the year. There just isn't. None of the women in country music did enough to warrant it at all, the closest would be Miranda Lambert or Carrie Underwood but even then there isn't enough. Also the Reba McEntire album was marketed to both country and Christian and sold pretty well from what I recall. So there's plenty of validity to nominating her.
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Post by BackwoodsBarbie on Sept 4, 2017 8:20:18 GMT -5
I am very happy with nominations especially with Reba being nominated for FVOY - really nice surprise. I am also glad to see that Miranda is nominated in 5 categories - I was hoping she would also get nominated for EOTY but I guess that would be too much nominations for one artist.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 8:20:49 GMT -5
Some thoughts...
-Garth GTFO, you stole the award last year, why are you here again?
-YES, QUEEN REBA! Since it'll be pretty obvious who will win, I'm rooting for Reba. I'm not crazy, so I know she won't win but I support her.
-Kind of surprised by Male Vocalist.
-Why are Song and Single the exact same, and how the hell did that "Garbage Like A Backroad" get in Song of the year?
-Looks like it could be another Miranda love fest, I'd personally love to see her take Album and song, and that's it.
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Post by The Brazilian Guy 🇧🇷 on Sept 4, 2017 8:23:07 GMT -5
When was the last they had an all-male Entertainer of the Year line-up?? 10 years at least??
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Post by tim on Sept 4, 2017 8:29:22 GMT -5
When was the last they had an all-male Entertainer of the Year line-up?? 10 years at least?? Looks like 2007 was the last time it happened so yea a long, long time.
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Post by BackwoodsBarbie on Sept 4, 2017 8:35:23 GMT -5
-YES, QUEEN REBA! Since it'll be pretty obvious who will win, I'm rooting for Reba. I'm not crazy, so I know she won't win but I support her. Same here I like Miranda and in normal circumstances I would be rooting for her but this year REBA FTW please (I know the chances for this to happen are non existent but still GO Reba!!)
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Sept 4, 2017 8:35:23 GMT -5
Thoughts:
1. If freakin' Garth Brooks wins again I will be livid. Please just retire for the 16th time already... 2. Reba? Really? Poor Lauren should've had her spot with FVOTY. Really pulling for Maren to win this. Not here for another Miranda win... 3. Male Vocalist is somewhat of a shocker... Thomas Rhett should win this, but damn do I want Dierks to win this finally. Happy not to see Luke/Blake - I wish that would mean they were on their way out of the spotlight... 4. Yeah, Maddie & Tae don't deserve a nom here, but no one notable truly *deserved* a nomination here with them. High Valley would be the closest thing but barely a top 20 hit doesn't really deserve a nomination here. We need more duos. 5. LMAO at Cole Swindell and Old Dominion being nominated for "New" artist of the year. How can one consciously vote them when they have 4+ top 5 hits to their name. Cole especially does not belong here. Anyway, this is almost anyone's award here. I could see it going to any of the 6 of them. 6. How boring that Single and Song are the exact same nominees. Especially since "Body Like a Backroad" has no business being nominated for Song and "Tin Man" has no business being nominated for Single. "In Case You Didn't Know" should have taken their nominations in both categories. 7. Really pulling for an Old Dominion win for Vocal Group, but I think with "Better Man"'s success, LBT will pull off another win 8. THANK GOD IN HEAVEN that the intel on "The Weight of These Wings" was wrong. But this category truly shows how there haven't been very many good releases in the past year as that album is the only one I truly care for in the slightest. I was hoping Lauren Alaina, Brett Young, or Jon Pardi could get a nomination here. But if Miranda doesn't win this, I will be pissed.
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Post by Troublemaker on Sept 4, 2017 8:37:53 GMT -5
Random Thoughts: - Not surprised by the nominations for 'body like a back road' because love it or hate it its the biggest country song of 2017. Getting nominated is not the issue, winning is though - Garth Brooks is only one right now with good touring numbers, clearly his radio days are over - Here goes the headlines again "Miranda is the most nominated artist" again! (just kidding) - Surprised by Jason Isbell nomination, maybe he might get nominated for best country album at Grammys even though his album is more of rock... - Maddie & Tae should have been replaced with Midland, here they go again nominating people who have done NOTHING
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