Taylor Swift - "Look What You Made Me Do"

[Deleted]

Is this going to drop faster than Focus?

[jughead]

Sept 24, 2017 6:35:24 GMT -5 Codex said:

Oh wow... I didn't think it would start getting negative updates on week FIVE. s**t, even HIAM lasted longer and that song is the definition of frontloaded.

I would not be surprised to see this plummet with a -4000 or worse in 3 weeks.

Mess. Reputation will sell less than 276,000 then.
Taylor is over.

[Deleted]

Well, nvm, just looked at the other few updates
II think this will be done soon anyway - with or without RFI
If anything, they released RFI because they saw this coming. If they don't make RFI the second single, then I'll be puzzled

[👑 Eloquent ™]

Sept 24, 2017 6:35:24 GMT -5 Codex said:

Oh wow... I didn't think it would start getting negative updates on week FIVE. s**t, even HIAM lasted longer and that song is the definition of frontloaded.

I would not be surprised to see this plummet with a -4000 or worse in 3 weeks.

Girl, we know you're salivating. Lol

I am not worried just yet. If it remains negative for a few days I will say it's done. Still, not entirely surprised given her spins are being split between two songs. Strange it is weakest on radio tho, for such a "polarizing" song it is still doing fantastic digitially and well on streaming.

[dhill92]

Wow. Are you kidding me?! This CANNOT be happening! It's supposed to vault up to #1, not losing spins! We needed Taylor back in the limelight after recent flops by many female pop artists. Sigh, please do NOT let this be a total flop, with or without ...Ready For It?!

[deepston]

Sept 24, 2017 7:56:40 GMT -5 Codex said:

Sept 24, 2017 7:12:43 GMT -5 👑 Eloquent ™ said:

Girl, we know you're salivating. Lol

I am not worried just yet. If it remains negative for a few days I will say it's done. Still, not entirely surprised given her spins are being split between two songs. Strange it is weakest on radio tho, for such a "polarizing" song it is still doing fantastic digitially and well on streaming.

I'm not hiding it. I think I've stated multiple times that I'm rooting for this to fail, because Taylor and her fans need to be knocked down a notch.

However, I'm still surprised at just how bad it's doing on radio.

That's how being polarizing works. For Streams and Sales you need a significant amount of people who like it. For radio, you for there to be no people who HATE it.

How is this failing? She has been #1 for 3 straight weeks and will probably collect a 4th. I can name a ton of songs that hit #1 on radio and Look has outpeakead.

[tinawina]

This thread stays entertaining. Heh.

A lot of updates were crazy wonky today so I think everyone needs to take a breath before losing it.

[Deleted]

This is not a flop. She peaked on sales and streams on first week with more than what Despacito ever could at its peak. However, I think this will be forgotten in the long run.

[Dylan :)]

Sept 24, 2017 6:52:03 GMT -5 jughead said:

Sept 24, 2017 6:35:24 GMT -5 Codex said:

Oh wow... I didn't think it would start getting negative updates on week FIVE. s**t, even HIAM lasted longer and that song is the definition of frontloaded.

I would not be surprised to see this plummet with a -4000 or worse in 3 weeks.

Mess. Reputation will sell less than 276,000 then.
Taylor is over.

What?

To anyone saying it, this is the furthest thing from a flop. As many others have explained, this won't have the added benefit of longevity due to how huge it was at first. Also, I doubt this is over at radio, look at all the other updates today

[born]

Sept 24, 2017 8:05:47 GMT -5 deepston said:

Sept 24, 2017 7:56:40 GMT -5 Codex said:

I'm not hiding it. I think I've stated multiple times that I'm rooting for this to fail, because Taylor and her fans need to be knocked down a notch.

However, I'm still surprised at just how bad it's doing on radio.

That's how being polarizing works. For Streams and Sales you need a significant amount of people who like it. For radio, you for there to be no people who HATE it.

How is this failing? She has been #1 for 3 straight weeks and will probably collect a 4th. I can name a ton of songs that hit #1 on radio and Look has outpeakead.

Your reaction to Codex posting in a Taylor thread should be the same as mine to "Welcome To New York". I forget it's even there. 

[born]

I'm only trying to protect New Members from you chap

[tomgsinger]

Sept 24, 2017 5:12:21 GMT -5 Az Paynter said:

Did I not say releasing RFI so soon was a bad move?! :sip2:

POP:
6 5 TAYLOR SWIFT Look What You Made Me Do 13407 12568 839 76.026

-22 Spins
-174 Bullet
-0.004 Audience

HOT AC:
9 8 TAYLOR SWIFT Look What You Made Me Do 4342 4170 172 25.280

-2 Spins
-54 Bullet
-0.101 Audience

AC:
20 21 TAYLOR SWIFT Look What You Made Me Do 211 218 -7 0.784

-2 Spins
-10 Bullet
-0.047 Audience

RHYTHMIC:
24 22 TAYLOR SWIFT Look What You Made Me Do 1540 1377 163 4.371

+22 Spins
-7 Bullet
+0.089 Audience

To be honest, every song received a bad update today. Chill out guys. Only 4 songs got triple digit updates today, while half a dozen songs got -200s or more! Come on guys, this is stabilizing, but it will probably peak for real in a week or so.

[tomgsinger]

Sept 24, 2017 7:59:55 GMT -5 dhill92 said:

Wow. Are you kidding me?! This CANNOT be happening! It's supposed to vault up to #1, not losing spins! We needed Taylor back in the limelight after recent flops by many female pop artists. Sigh, please do NOT let this be a total flop, with or without ...Ready For It?!

IHeartRadio festival. That's why this got a negative update. today. Even Strip That Down got one! This is going to #4, mark my words.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Meh, this could drop dead now and it still did what it was meant to do. Now they just need to make sure there isn't a gap between singles before the album comes out. Either push Ready For It or new song nowish.

[Oprah]

Sept 24, 2017 8:05:47 GMT -5 deepston said:

Sept 24, 2017 7:56:40 GMT -5 Codex said:

I'm not hiding it. I think I've stated multiple times that I'm rooting for this to fail, because Taylor and her fans need to be knocked down a notch.

However, I'm still surprised at just how bad it's doing on radio.

That's how being polarizing works. For Streams and Sales you need a significant amount of people who like it. For radio, you for there to be no people who HATE it.

How is this failing? She has been #1 for 3 straight weeks and will probably collect a 4th. I can name a ton of songs that hit #1 on radio and Look has outpeakead.

Comparing this song's chart performance to others in a vacuum is the go to move whenever a major pop star underperforms, and it's always disingenuous. Sure, Alessia Cara or Demi Lovato would murder for a song to be #1 for three weeks, but we're not talking about them. This is Taylor Swift's lead single. She could've recorded herself farting for four minutes and it would have rocketed to the top of the charts based on her name and fanbase alone. The fact that it's peaking so quickly is obviously a bad sign.

[👑 Eloquent ™]

Too late for this to fail. Could it not do as well as it could have on radio? Yep. But to be a total failure? That ship has sailed.

[Enigma.]

Lots of people are totally over her arrogance and lack of deeper message. One of my friends who is a big Taylor fan says she should stop acting like a spoiled teenager.

However, that's not going to harm her if the music is great. If it's not, this era is in danger of going Katy Perry route, with better figures of course. Interesting times!

[graham]

Chill it's not over lol.

[Bwol]

I really hope this doesn't start falling.

It has grown on me and now I love it. The last part of the last chours is really catchy.

[leonagwen]

Most of the top 10 had negative updates today.Probably because most Iheart stations broadcasted the Iheart festival.Songs lost spins during the broadcast of the festival.

[deepston]

Sept 24, 2017 9:30:57 GMT -5 Oprah said:

Sept 24, 2017 8:05:47 GMT -5 deepston said:

How is this failing? She has been #1 for 3 straight weeks and will probably collect a 4th. I can name a ton of songs that hit #1 on radio and Look has outpeakead.

Comparing this song's chart performance to others in a vacuum is the go to move whenever a major pop star underperforms, and it's always disingenuous. Sure, Alessia Cara or Demi Lovato would murder for a song to be #1 for three weeks, but we're not talking about them. This is Taylor Swift's lead single. She could've recorded herself farting for four minutes and it would have rocketed to the top of the charts based on her name and fanbase alone. The fact that it's peaking so quickly is obviously a bad sign.

It peaked on the 1st week and how can I compare her to any other female singer now? Taylor is doing massively better than all of them.
My point is, even though this is underperforming on radio compared to most of her other singles, this won't fail because that time is gone now. This is a hit already, bigger than any female artist this year, so how can people expect this to fail if failing is totally out of the equation? lol

Also, Shake It Off spent 4 weeks atop BB 100 and was much more radio friendly, I don't think this is a bad sign :) 

[leonagwen]

The whole top 50 had low updates yesterday because of the Iheart festival.This will be back to +150 tomorrow.

[deepston]

Sept 24, 2017 10:13:59 GMT -5 Codex said:

Sept 24, 2017 9:48:50 GMT -5 👑 Eloquent ™ said:

Too late for this to fail. Could it not do as well as it could have on radio? Yep. But to be a total failure? That ship has sailed.

What would be a failure in your eyes? Following the 1989 era, there was no way it was going to do any worse than this. Unless I'm missing something, the huge female eras of this decade were 21, Teenage Dream, TFM and 1989. It's no surprise that the follow ups were going to be HUGE. Born This Way, Roar, Hello. All massive massive songs, with mind-boggling numbers.

You're missing something here, unlike all the females you've listed, Taylor was already INSANELY popular before 1989. Would you consider this album a flop if it was less successful than 1989 but on the Red level? You probably would but I wouldn't.
I mean, 1989 was a massive success because Taylor has a genuine fanbase and she entered into 100% pop with a relatable, catchy and radio friendly lead single. 
I mean, Red and Speak Now could be considered huge eras... If reputation flops into Red numbers I think everybody would want their albums to flop like Red.

[leonagwen]

You gotta be crazy to call this era a flop.She set the first day record for most radio spins and music video views.Was in the top 10 on radio after only 1 week.Has been constantly in the top 5 on itunes since it's release and is now #1 on itunes.Also has been #1 on the Hot 100 the last 3 weeks.She also has another single in the top 20 and will probably sell a million copies of her album when it's released.

[deepston]

^ Finally someone making sense...

[deepston]

Red era was huge, even though she only had 1 #1, she had multiple top 10 and it paved the way for 1989's success.
Ehh... you can't say RFI will be the 2nd single, it is much more likely that it won't. I'm still expecting a 100% pop blast from the 2nd single, a much less polarizing song. If you think about it, Look was not meant to be an extremely well received song, it had one job that it has now completed, I don't think we can call this era a flop just yet.

[deepston]

Sept 24, 2017 11:00:49 GMT -5 Codex said:

Sept 24, 2017 10:52:28 GMT -5 deepston said:

Red era was huge, even though she only had 1 #1, she had multiple top 10 and it paved the way for 1989's success.
Ehh... you can't say RFI will be the 2nd single, it is much more likely that it won't. I'm still expecting a 100% pop blast from the 2nd single, a much less polarizing song. If you think about it, Look was not meant to be an extremely well received song, it had one job that it has now completed, I don't think we can call this era a flop just yet.

That's what I said too. Or at least, that's what I was trying to.

At this point, they basically need to make it the second single. I REALLY hope they have something better lined up though. LWYMMD is fire, but RFI should be on Fergie's flop album instead. If they kill this song and replace it with a radio friendly one, they can still "save" the era. We're just discussing what would happen if they don't, which is looking likely.

Why would they replace this with RFI though? I don't get why everybody is assuming this.
The video for the 2nd single was probably shot months ago, I don't think they would mess with the lineup because a promo single reached #4. Okay it reached #4 but I don't think it has potential to go any further because there won't be an initial hype.

[Choco]

Sept 24, 2017 10:13:59 GMT -5 Codex said:

Sept 24, 2017 9:48:50 GMT -5 👑 Eloquent ™ said:

Too late for this to fail. Could it not do as well as it could have on radio? Yep. But to be a total failure? That ship has sailed.

What would be a failure in your eyes? Following the 1989 era, there was no way it was going to do any worse than this. Unless I'm missing something, the huge female eras of this decade were 21, Teenage Dream, TFM and 1989. It's no surprise that the follow ups were going to be HUGE. Born This Way, Roar, Hello. All massive massive songs, with mind-boggling numbers.

This had the potential to be as large as Born This Way, Hello or Roar, if she released the right song. We don't know how fast it will fall, but the current chart performance is still based off of the initial hype. She pulled out all the stops for it in less than a month, and it's still about to fall from #1 after 3 weeks in the weakest chart climate in over a year. It's not a good sign from any perspective. You think it's good if this is out of the H100 top 10 by album release with Ready For It maybe climbing back to #8 with a video boost? 

No way the album is selling less than 276k though lmao. If she manages to completely lose her country fanbase she should still be around 550k.

Not this decade but...
Good Girl Gone Bad was pretty massive yet Russian Roulette stalled at #21.
Breakaway was pretty massive yet Never Again stalled at #22.
Love. Angel. Music. Baby. was pretty big, (not as big as the other examples), but Wind It Up stalled at #18.

Those were failures.

Sure, if this stops at #5 it might mean another, less polarizing song could have done better. But it could have been way worse. 3 weeks at #1 is fine.

[rickroller]

Wait...Why ya calling this a flop after just a one fail update?
I see it recovering on radio for a bit, and then going away at week 7 maybee.

[upsidedown]

I feel like this finally is the era of the "backlash" though. She was riding high up until 1989. But this is the era that some people are like "eh". The streaming hasn't been as good as it should've been, and I don't forsee the song going #1 on Pop. Also doesn't help that it's cannibalizing spins with Ready For It.

Even in a depressed digital climate, 350k was weak for this as the debut.