Billboard Hot 100: 10/7/2017

[Harx]

Sept 24, 2017 11:35:40 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

Michael Jackson on chart in 1972, and at #2 ? He was like 14.

Yeah, with a song about a killer rat

[superdroid73]

simmnfierzg's final prediction

1 Bodak Yellow     416  (+1)

2 Look What You Made Me Do     380 (-1) 

3 Rockstar     370  (debut)

4 1-800-273-8255     331  (-1)

5 Despacito     291  (-1)

6 Unforgettable     254  (+1)

7 Believer     236  (+2)

8 Rake It Up     235  (+8)

9 Attention     234  (-1)

10 Feel It Still     220  (+4)

11 Wild Thoughts     218  (-5)

12 Slow Hands     211  (-1)

13 There's Nothing Holdin Me Back     209  (-3)

14 Bank Account     208  (+1)

15  Too Good At Goodbyes 208 (-10)

16 Strip That Down     207  (-4)

17 Sorry Not Sorry     205  (-4)

18 Shape Of You     182  (-1)

19 I Get The Bag     172  (+5)

20 XO Tour Lif3     169  (=)

 

21 Mi Gente     169  (-2)

22 That's What I Like     165 (-4)  

23 Young Dumb & Broke     155  (+3)

24 Humble     155  (-1)

25 What Lovers Do     153 (+4)  

26 Body Like A Back Road     146 (-4)  

27 What About Us     145  (+3)

28 Something Just Like This     145 (-1)  

29 Praying     142  (-4)

30 Location     138  (-2)

31 Ready For It     135 (-10) 

32 Thunder     134  (+8)

33 What Ifs     133  (-1)

34 Congratulations     130 (-1)  

35 Love Galore     127  (+1)

36 Friends     123  (-2)

37 I'm The One     122 (-2)  

38 Redbone     121  (-7)

39 Say You Won't Let Go     114  (+4)

40 Small Town Boy     113  (-2)

 

41 Stay     109  (=)

42 Loyalty     108  (-3)

43 Jocelyn Flores     103 (-1)  

44 When It Rains It Pours     101  (+5)

45 Feels     101  (-8)

46 The Weekend     100 (+8)  

47 The Race     100  (+1)

48 Heartache On The Dance Floor       99  (+4)

49 No Promises       98  (-4)

50 Mask Off       98  (-4)

51 Crew        97  (=)

52 The Way Life Goes       97  (+3)

53 New Rules       95  (+3)

54 Unforgettable Thomas Rhett       94  (-7)

55 Transportin'       94  (+3)

56 Silence       91  (+3)

57 Do Re Mi       88  (-7)

58 Roll In Peace       86 (-5) 

59 **** Love       84  (-2)

60 Butterfly Effect       83 (+1) 

 

61 Too Much To Ask       82  (debut)

62 Bad At Love       82  (+9)

63 It's A Vibe       82  (-3)

64 Havana       80  (=)

65 All The Pretty Girls       76  (+1)

66 Glorious       76  (-1)

67 Dusk Till Daw       74 (-23)  

68 Curve       70  (debut)

69 Sauce It Up       70  (-2)

70 DNA       68  (debut)

71 Escapate Conmingo       63  (+4)

72 Felices Los 4       62  (-2)

73 No Such Thing As A Broken Heart       61  (-5)

74 They Don't Know       59  (+3)

75 B.E.D.       58  (-6)

76 Gucci Gang       57 (+5)  

77 Back To You       57  (-5)

78 Greatest Love Story       56 (+4)  

79 Every Little Thing       55  (-1)

80 Whatever You Need       55  (-4)

 

81 Relationship       55  (+7)

82 Perfect       54  (re-entry)

83 Pills & Automobiles       51 (+15) 

84 No Limit       51  (+1)

85 Questions       50  (+4)

86 Homemade Dynamite       50  (debut)

87 Fetish       49  (-13)

88 Light It Up       48  (+3)

89 Love So Soft       48  (-27)

90 More Girls Like You       48  (-4)

91 No Complaints       47  (+6)

92 I Could Use A Love Song       46 (+3)  

93 I'll Name The Dogs       46  (-20)

94 Fix A Drink       46  (+2)

95 It Ain't My Fault       46 (-1) 

96 Everybody Dies In Their Nightmares       46  (-17)

97 Do I Make You Wanna       46  (-7)

98 These Heaux       44  (-11)

99 Drinkin Problem       44  (-15)

100 Wish I Knew You       41  (-7)

[Deleted]

DNA (BTS) could have debuted at top 40 if it was released on Friday. Did they ever even chart before?

[MilesW1998]

Sept 24, 2017 16:02:47 GMT -5 @pete said:

DNA (BTS) could have debuted at top 40 if it was released on Friday. Did they ever even chart before?

No, I don't think they've ever charted.

[truemusicreviews]

Sept 24, 2017 16:10:26 GMT -5 MilesW1998 said:

Sept 24, 2017 16:02:47 GMT -5 @pete said:

DNA (BTS) could have debuted at top 40 if it was released on Friday. Did they ever even chart before?

No, I don't think they've ever charted.

I think BBMAs definitely gave them a lot of exposure. They could be seeing more chart success in the future.

[Au$tin]

Sept 24, 2017 11:35:40 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

Michael Jackson on chart in 1972, and at #2 ? He was like 14. Didn't know that, nobody can deny his influence.

Michael Jackson hit #1 at age 11 with his brothers in a band called The Jackson 5. He sang lead.

[forg]

The highest charting song from a KPop group I think is Wonder Girls' Nobody at 76, so DNA would beat that

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

Sept 24, 2017 20:14:54 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Sept 24, 2017 11:35:40 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

Michael Jackson on chart in 1972, and at #2 ? He was like 14. Didn't know that, nobody can deny his influence.

Michael Jackson hit #1 at age 11 with his brothers in a band called The Jackson 5. He sang lead.

Yeah, I heard about The Jackson 5, but didn't know they were THAT successful. It's a shame that I don't know Michael's songs before 1983 and his epic Thiller.

[forg]

Sept 24, 2017 11:57:18 GMT -5 Soulsista said:

Billboard Top 10 Flashback:

October 5, 2002

01 52 A Moment Like This - Kelly Clarkson (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
02 01 Dilemma - Nelly feat. Kelly Rowland
03 02 Gangsta Lovin' - Eve feat. Alicia Keys
04 03 Complicated - Avril Lavigne
05 04 Cleanin' Out My Closet - Eminem
06 06 One Last Breath - Creed
07 05 I Need a Girl (Part 2) - P. Diddy & Ginuwine feat. Loon, Mario Winans & Tammy Ruggieri
08 11 Hey Ma - Cam'ron feat. Juelz Santana, Freekey Zekey & Toya
09 08 Just Like a Pill - P!nk
10 13 Move B***h - Ludacris feat. Mystikal & Infamous 2.0

A Moment Like This! Since I didn't know about American Idol back then, I was shocked when this went to #1. I was like "What the heck is this"

[Au$tin]

Sept 24, 2017 20:22:12 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

Sept 24, 2017 20:14:54 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Michael Jackson hit #1 at age 11 with his brothers in a band called The Jackson 5. He sang lead.

Yeah, I heard about The Jackson 5, but didn't know they were THAT successful. It's a shame that I don't know Michael's songs before 1983 and his epic Thiller.

Yeah, The Jackson 5 and Michael were successful and huge right out of the gate. Their debut single, "I Want You Back," was a #1 hit. The Jackson 5 is a staple of Motown music too. When Michael went solo, it was a no brainer that he was going to be at least just as successful. As it turns out, he was immensely more successful! He actually released 5 albums before Thriller. Granted his third and fourth albums weren't that successful, but Off the Wall put him back on the map and Thriller then became a cultural phenomenon.

[MilesW1998]

Don't forget that Bad, his 1987 release, landed him 5 #1s, a feat that would go unmatched for decades until Katy's 2010 success Teenage Dream did the same. (Unless you count the re-issue)

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

Sept 24, 2017 20:31:46 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Sept 24, 2017 20:22:12 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

Yeah, I heard about The Jackson 5, but didn't know they were THAT successful. It's a shame that I don't know Michael's songs before 1983 and his epic Thiller.

Yeah, The Jackson 5 and Michael were successful and huge right out of the gate. Their debut single, "I Want You Back," was a #1 hit. The Jackson 5 is a staple of Motown music too. When Michael went solo, it was a no brainer that he was going to be at least just as successful. As it turns out, he was immensely more successful! He actually released 5 albums before Thriller. Granted his third and fourth albums weren't that successful, but Off the Wall put him back on the map and Thriller then became a cultural phenomenon.

It's a really weird that the group of 5 kids scored #1 single in their first attempt. That's like a miracle. Today it would be possible only if JAY-Z's and Kanye's kids gathers and names the group "Watch The Throne 5". Michael's career is impressive..he scored #1 when he was a kid, 5 #1s from one album and also, posthumous top ten song almost 50 years after he scored his first #1. Thanks for this information.

[scrohr424]

Sept 24, 2017 15:53:32 GMT -5 superdroid73 said:

snip (simmnfierzg's final prediction)

Ah come on, Rake It Up? Seriously people?

Whoa, he's predicting Too Good At Goodbyes to drop out of the Top 10 entirely?! Every other prediction I've seen has it predicted to remain in the Top 10.

Yay Body Like A Back Road falling more

I see both What Lovers Do and What About Us making gains, presumably because of radio. They might have more of a shot at the Year-End list now. No Promises, on the other hand, will probably just miss, which is disappointing.

I'm really surprised that Ready For It keeps falling given it's still Top 10 on iTunes and gaining on radio. But as I said in the YE predictions, Reputation will add to the very first week of the 2018 chart year.

With Perfect (Ed Sheeran) re-entering, sounds like it'll be a slow gainer and be a hit for next year. Could potentially end up scraping onto 2018's list but too early to tell.

[Deleted]

01 One More Night - Maroon 5 (2nd of 9 weeks at #1)
02 11 Gangnam Style - PSY

One of the few times recently that Billboard was completely inaccurate. Gangnam Style should have been #1 for 10+ weeks.

[forg]

Airplay was so tiny for PSY to beat Maroon 5 that time. I really wanted to hit #1 as well back then

[truemusicreviews]

Imagine if Youtube was counted back then. PSY would have been unstoppable.

[MilesW1998]

Sept 24, 2017 21:30:20 GMT -5 truemusicreviews said:

Imagine if Youtube was counted back then. PSY would have been unstoppable.

It could have maybe made a play for the record. *runs away before stampede comes*

[Gary]

Sept 24, 2017 20:59:03 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

Sept 24, 2017 20:31:46 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Yeah, The Jackson 5 and Michael were successful and huge right out of the gate. Their debut single, "I Want You Back," was a #1 hit. The Jackson 5 is a staple of Motown music too. When Michael went solo, it was a no brainer that he was going to be at least just as successful. As it turns out, he was immensely more successful! He actually released 5 albums before Thriller. Granted his third and fourth albums weren't that successful, but Off the Wall put him back on the map and Thriller then became a cultural phenomenon.

It's a really weird that the group of 5 kids scored #1 single in their first attempt. That's like a miracle. Today it would be possible only if JAY-Z's and Kanye's kids gathers and names the group "Watch The Throne 5". Michael's career is impressive..he scored #1 when he was a kid, 5 #1s from one album and also, posthumous top ten song almost 50 years after he scored his first #1. Thanks for this information.

In 1968 the Jackson 5 released a single called "Big Boy" on Steeltown Records went nowhere

In 1969 their first Motown single was released, hitting #1 in early 1970.  The next 3 singles also hit #1.  The 2 after that followed hit #2

[jayhawk1117]

Sept 24, 2017 21:32:02 GMT -5 MilesW1998 said:

Sept 24, 2017 21:30:20 GMT -5 truemusicreviews said:

Imagine if Youtube was counted back then. PSY would have been unstoppable.

It could have maybe made a play for the record. *runs away before stampede comes*

I mean that's actually kinda accurate. Pretty much every week it was in the top 20, it DOMINATED itunes(iirc) and YouTube. Easily would've topped 12 weeks imo

[Au$tin]

Sept 24, 2017 21:30:20 GMT -5 truemusicreviews said:

Imagine if Youtube was counted back then. PSY would have been unstoppable.

Absolutely. Also, Rebecca Black would likely have a #1 hit.

[garrettlen]

Sept 24, 2017 23:15:28 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Sept 24, 2017 21:30:20 GMT -5 truemusicreviews said:

Imagine if Youtube was counted back then. PSY would have been unstoppable.

Absolutely. Also, Rebecca Black would likely have a #1 hit.

Thank God Youtube wasn't counted then.

[Golden Bluebird]

kworb.net/airadio/

*** = Dropped or added a format

Overall AI (Top 20) - 09/25/2017
1. (=) CHARLIE PUTH - Attention (168.032) (-0.937)
2. (=) SHAWN MENDES - There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back (157.097) (-0.848) ***
3. (=) NIALL HORAN - Slow Hands (155.378) (+1.885) ***
4. (+1) LIAM PAYNE - Strip That Down f/Quavo (124.913) (+2.664) ***
5. (-1) DJ KHALED F/RIHANNA/B. TILLER - Wild Thoughts (122.379) (-1.884)
6. (=) PORTUGAL. THE MAN - Feel It Still (121.291) (+1.354)
7. (=) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Believer (117.513) (-2.085)
8. (=) FRENCH MONTANA - Unforgettable f/Swae Lee (117.107) (-0.511)
9. (=) TAYLOR SWIFT - Look What You Made Me Do (112.731) (+0.585)
10. (=) ED SHEERAN - Shape Of You (111.040) (-0.499)
11. (=) BRUNO MARS - That's What I Like (95.818) (-0.928)
12. (=) THE CHAINSMOKERS & COLDPLAY - Something Just Like This (92.386) (-0.271)
13. (=) ZEDD & ALESSIA CARA - Stay (85.523) (-1.274)
14. (=) CARDI B - Bodak Yellow (85.041) (+1.311)
15. (=) LUIS FONSI - Despacito f/Daddy Yankee (81.640) (-1.672)
16. (=) P!NK - What About Us (79.745) (+0.714)
17. (+1) MAROON 5 - What Lovers Do f/SZA (78.251) (+2.256) ***
18. (-1) SAM HUNT - Body Like A Back Road (77.904) (-0.602)
19. (=) LOGIC - 1-800-273-8255 f/A.Cara/Khalid (77.045) (+2.539)
20. (=) CHEAT CODES - No Promises f/Demi Lovato (74.830) (+0.609)

Others:
28. (+1) SAM SMITH - Too Good At Goodbyes (61.723) (+1.952)
29. (+1) DEMI LOVATO - Sorry Not Sorry (60.314) (+1.011)
32. (=) KANE BROWN - What Ifs (59.174) (+1.066)
60. (+3) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Thunder (32.735) (+1.970)
68. (+4) KELLY CLARKSON - Love So Soft (28.246) (+1.031)

[renfield75]

Sept 24, 2017 20:59:03 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

Sept 24, 2017 20:31:46 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Yeah, The Jackson 5 and Michael were successful and huge right out of the gate. Their debut single, "I Want You Back," was a #1 hit. The Jackson 5 is a staple of Motown music too. When Michael went solo, it was a no brainer that he was going to be at least just as successful. As it turns out, he was immensely more successful! He actually released 5 albums before Thriller. Granted his third and fourth albums weren't that successful, but Off the Wall put him back on the map and Thriller then became a cultural phenomenon.

It's a really weird that the group of 5 kids scored #1 single in their first attempt. That's like a miracle. Today it would be possible only if JAY-Z's and Kanye's kids gathers and names the group "Watch The Throne 5". Michael's career is impressive..he scored #1 when he was a kid, 5 #1s from one album and also, posthumous top ten song almost 50 years after he scored his first #1. Thanks for this information.

The Jackson 5's first four hits all reached number one (I Want You Back, ABC, The Love You Save, and I'll Be There, all in 1970), a record that stood for over 20 years until Mariah Carey's first FIVE hits all went to number one. Funnily enough, Mariah's sixth number one hit was a cover of...the Jackson 5's "I'll Be There". While the Jackson 5/Jacksons never reached number one again after those initial 4 hits, they continued to have gigantic top ten hits throughout the 70s like "Dancing Machine", "Enjoy Yourself", and "Shake Your Body (Down To The Ground)". The fact that Michael could render all their success a mere footnote to his solo career shows just how massive and legendary he was.

[jenglisbe]

Sept 24, 2017 13:22:30 GMT -5 85la said:

Sept 24, 2017 11:35:40 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

Michael Jackson on chart in 1972, and at #2 ? He was like 14. Didn't know that, nobody can deny his influence.

Yeah, his early hits from that time are often overlooked or completely unknown.

Well, his early solo work just hasn't had the same relevance over time as his stuff starting with Off the Wall. Of course, many of his hits with The Jackson 5 are still well-known. But, yeah, Michael had several top 10s in the 70s pre-Off the Wall (Got to Be There, Rockin' Robin, Ben). He definitely had a lull in the mid-to-late 70s, though.

I'm someone who thinks if an artist sings lead for a group/band, their hits with them should be grouped with their solo work. To that end, Michael would add four #1s and more top 10s to his totals. His career was truly incredible.

Sept 24, 2017 20:35:12 GMT -5 MilesW1998 said:

Don't forget that Bad, his 1987 release, landed him 5 #1s, a feat that would go unmatched for decades until Katy's 2010 success Teenage Dream did the same. (Unless you count the re-issue)

I'm still puzzled as to why Bad didn't sell more. Not that it was a flop, but coming off the huge sales of Thriller and considering all of the #1s it contained, you'd think it would have sold at least half of what Thriller did.

[Golden Bluebird]

[Gary]

It is all about record labels with the Michael Jackson stuff

Got To Be There, Ben, Rockin' Robin etc. was all Motown.

Off The Wall and later was Epic Records

So when deals are made to market hits packages to help make the songs "memorable" to the next generation, the label that has them plays a big part in that.

[XXX.]

Sept 25, 2017 10:15:22 GMT -5 Golden Bluebird said:

B ready?

Cardi got that #1.  I'm ready! 

[superdroid73]

Oh, wow, they're gonna be early today.

[Au$tin]

Sept 25, 2017 10:20:36 GMT -5 XXX. said:

Sept 25, 2017 10:15:22 GMT -5 Golden Bluebird said:

B ready?

Cardi got that #1.  I'm ready! 

"Rockstar" and "swiftly" are also in that tweet. He purposely alludes to all three to build hype.

[MilesW1998]

Why so early though? I don't have a problem with it, it's just why?