deepston
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Post by deepston on Sept 25, 2017 16:36:14 GMT -5
Also what's the deal with the new BTS song, how is it so hyped up? Although I haven't listened to the song myself yet. They won smth at the Billboard event which made them much more recognizable in the US. Also, they had a pretty huge fanbase already.
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Post by Dylan :) on Sept 25, 2017 16:37:51 GMT -5
I am happy for Cardi, it's great to see another woman on top after such a long male domination. However, other than that and 1-800 still doing well, pretty terrible top ten this week. Especially sad to see Demi fall
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Sept 25, 2017 16:50:47 GMT -5
How can Post Malone be #1 on Streaming Songs with 44.1 million and Cardi is #2 with 46.4 million? "Rockstar" debuts at No. 1 on both Streaming Songs (44.1 million) and Digital Song Sales (80,000). ( Note that "Bodak" boasts 46.4 million U.S. streams, while "Rockstar" racked 44.1 million, yet the latter is No. 1 on Streaming Songs; that's because those weekly sums are raw totals before weighting was applied that places a higher value on on-demand streams than programmed streams, like those on Pandora, where "Bodak" sports a significantly higher total than "Rockstar.")
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Post by #LisaRinna on Sept 25, 2017 16:54:09 GMT -5
Billboard is always doing some shady sh*t. Alright.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Sept 25, 2017 16:56:17 GMT -5
So any input on who's #1 next week? I'm guessing Taylor will be back.
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Post by fhas on Sept 25, 2017 16:58:12 GMT -5
So any input on who's #1 next week? I'm guessing Taylor will be back. I think Cardi with a good lead, but I'll take a closer look at the numbers.
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Post by rainie on Sept 25, 2017 16:59:36 GMT -5
Feel It Still and Believer in the top 10, and Thunder has a good chance at making the top 10 as well. Why not Take It All Back while we're at it? 😷 Hey now, let's not go THAT far...
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Post by Zach on Sept 25, 2017 17:19:31 GMT -5
Billboard is always doing some shady sh*t. Alright. Is it really shady though? While I'm not completely sure whether or not I actually agree with the different weighting, the reasoning behind it makes lots of sense to me.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Sept 25, 2017 17:30:41 GMT -5
^Regardless of whether weighting streaming is valid or not, the question that comes to mind then is how much more would an on-demand stream be worth than one from the 'programmed' sources. I would hope that % is a significant number, not a token one.
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Post by forg on Sept 25, 2017 21:10:01 GMT -5
Billboard's really pushing BTS and K-Pop. I think they must have a lot of fans on editorial, because even though BTS clearly has a fanbase in America they, and K-Pop in general, just aren't THAT big here. Certainly not compared to the amount of coverage BB has given them. They probably give them good page views on their site or their PR team is working with Billboard
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Post by XXX. on Sept 26, 2017 2:17:30 GMT -5
"Bodak Yellow" got so much promotion today. Everyone was talking about this on social media.
Sent the song right back into the Top 3 on iTunes.
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Post by Enigma. on Sept 26, 2017 3:05:55 GMT -5
Amazing for Cardi, well deserved!!! I'm also 100% sure Rockstar will be #1 at some point. Maybe not next week but the week after or so
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Post by scrohr424 on Sept 26, 2017 6:42:14 GMT -5
Also what's the deal with the new BTS song, how is it so hyped up? Although I haven't listened to the song myself yet. They won smth at the Billboard event which made them much more recognizable in the US. Also, they had a pretty huge fanbase already. This is very true. Beware. BTS fanboys are the fucking worst. At least one BTS fan was nice enough to shed some light on what the group is actually about in a comments section on one of their articles.
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Post by mako on Sept 26, 2017 7:01:17 GMT -5
Did SYWLG just rise up 6 spots?
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Post by willapted33 on Sept 26, 2017 7:23:10 GMT -5
Did SYWLG just rise up 6 spots? Yeah I don't know what's up with that
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Post by willapted33 on Sept 26, 2017 7:25:17 GMT -5
Gucci Gang by Lil Pump went UP 10 spots this week instead of dropping off the charts.
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Post by forg on Sept 26, 2017 7:26:20 GMT -5
It was performed on the America's Got Talent finale, probably had some sales and stream boost
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Post by Ling-Ling on Sept 26, 2017 7:57:20 GMT -5
So Taylor is #1 on itunes,#5 on airplay but doesn't get #1. I'm one of those people that feel that radio airplay should have more weight on the Billboard chart formula.So the #1 song is #36 on airplay and the #2 song isn't even in the top 50 airplay.Ok whatever. Taylor Swift isn't #5 on airplay. She's only #9. And Cardi is only four places behind her at #13 and is number one at two formats. Overall airplay is what counts towards the charts, not just the Pop chart. So basically what you're trying to say is only CHR/Pop airplay should count. Urban and Rhythmic radio should be taken out of the chart. And streaming, which is a huge platform for Urban/R&B music should be given a smaller cut of the pie so Pop artists can get an advantage?
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Post by Gary on Sept 26, 2017 8:24:54 GMT -5
Taylor is #10 on airplay actually Cardi B is #13
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2017 9:37:28 GMT -5
Yes!! Crew rose up 5 spots and is now 46. Keep rising! You can make the year end list!!
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Post by badrobot on Sept 26, 2017 11:53:45 GMT -5
Despacito is following my trend once again. 1-2-3-4-5-... can it be #6 next week?
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Post by vocech123 on Sept 26, 2017 14:57:11 GMT -5
So any input on who's #1 next week? I'm guessing Taylor will be back. Early predictions from simmnfierzig : 1 Bodak Yellow 411 (=) 2 Look What You Made Me Do 379 (+1) 3 1-800-273-8255 361 (+1) 4 Rockstar 352 (-2) 5 Despacito 274 (=) 6 Rake It Up 252 (+2) 7 Feel It Still 252 (+3) 8 Unforgettable 244 (-2) 9 Believer 241 (-2) 10 Attention 226 (-1) 11 Sorry Not Sorry 221 (+4) 12 Bank Account 220 13 Slow Hands 216 (-2) 14 Strip That Down 214 15 Too Good At Goodbyes 206 It seems like a rebound from Taylor is unlikely despite the discount.
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Post by 85la on Sept 26, 2017 20:29:45 GMT -5
Billboard's really pushing BTS and K-Pop. I think they must have a lot of fans on editorial, because even though BTS clearly has a fanbase in America they, and K-Pop in general, just aren't THAT big here. Certainly not compared to the amount of coverage BB has given them. Yeah, and I bet they are also being pushed to Billboard, along with a huge chunk o change. It does seem like it's very much of a smaller, niche market, but one that is steadily rising, and Billboard might be trying to be tastemakers and help to foment that rising.
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Post by willapted33 on Sept 27, 2017 2:14:09 GMT -5
In the Hot 100 early release top 10 video, half the comments were of these dumbass K-Pop fans who somehow thought the song from BTS was going to debut in the top 10 :|
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