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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 8:27:36 GMT -5
Taylor herself is not happy with this whole situation, I can tell you this with 100% of certainty That's probably true because the single didn't live up to the expectations and I would be a hypocrite to say otherwise at this point. But you know what, that's fine for me... sometimes we need to fail to really put some effort into the next thing. And saying this song isn't a hit is wrong anyway. It's not wrong. It's just called a different opinion What really matters for me is the song longevity and how it will affect the artist's future This is not a matter of underperformance because every pop girl goes through it or whatever, she did that to herself |
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Post by Dylan :) on Oct 3, 2017 8:28:52 GMT -5
So why didn't Bhad Bhabie's new songs chart anywhere? Were the YouTube streams not counted because they had two songs on one video? Or should we expect her next week? Or what? Seems like they did plenty well enough to chart, but I guess not. I think it's cheating to have 2 songs on the same video. She tried, but still getting some buzz Unless you pay Billboard to favour your song, you can't cheat |
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Post by deepston on Oct 3, 2017 8:31:53 GMT -5
That's probably true because the single didn't live up to the expectations and I would be a hypocrite to say otherwise at this point. But you know what, that's fine for me... sometimes we need to fail to really put some effort into the next thing. And saying this song isn't a hit is wrong anyway. It's not wrong. It's just called a different opinion What really matters for me is the song longevity and how it will affect the artist's future This is not a matter of underperformance because every pop girl goes through it or whatever, she did that to herself But this is still 3rd on Hot 100 and will probably be in the next week. What's your definition of longevity? 10 years in the top 10 like Shape Of You? I agree this won't have crazy longevity but it's doing fine, not fine for Taylor, but fine. I agree this is underperforming because the song just failed to connect and RFI was released way too early. People are crazy for Taylor, they just didn't feel this one. But is it worth it discussing the same thing over and over for weeks until we get the 2nd single? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 8:32:21 GMT -5
I think it's cheating to have 2 songs on the same video. She tried, but still getting some buzz Unless you pay Billboard to favour your song, you can't cheat I was saying that I don't think Billboard will count a video that has 2 songs I personally watched the first part of it more than the second one |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 8:37:40 GMT -5
It's not wrong. It's just called a different opinion What really matters for me is the song longevity and how it will affect the artist's future This is not a matter of underperformance because every pop girl goes through it or whatever, she did that to herself But this is still 3rd on Hot 100 and will probably be in the next week. What's your definition of longevity? 10 years in the top 10 like Shape Of You? I agree this won't have crazy longevity but it's doing fine, not fine for Taylor, but fine. I agree this is underperforming because the song just failed to connect and RFI was released way too early. People are crazy for Taylor, they just didn't feel this one. But is it worth it discussing the same thing over and over for weeks until we get the 2nd single? [ People were crazy for Taylor, they didn't feel this one, and might just have had enough I don't want to talk you anymore about this, so yeah not worth it |
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Post by garrettlen on Oct 3, 2017 8:39:44 GMT -5
The negativity in this thread is through the roof... I'm not going to sit down and applaud someone who had potential to have a smash but instead released a s**t song that is deservingly going down I do hope she is going to be ok and that I'm truly the only one that thinks she lost credibility The song was #1 on the Hot 100 for 3 weeks, what part of that makes it a failure? I'm finding it very confusing what Pulse considers a hit or a miss these days. |
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Post by Harx on Oct 3, 2017 8:41:59 GMT -5
Happy to see Thunder and What Lovers Do in the top 20!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 8:42:45 GMT -5
I'm not going to sit down and applaud someone who had potential to have a smash but instead released a s**t song that is deservingly going down I do hope she is going to be ok and that I'm truly the only one that thinks she lost credibility The song was #1 on the Hot 100 for 3 weeks, what part of that makes it a failure? I'm finding it very confusing what Pulse considers a hit or a miss these days. You will figure out |
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Post by garrettlen on Oct 3, 2017 8:58:57 GMT -5
The song was #1 on the Hot 100 for 3 weeks, what part of that makes it a failure? I'm finding it very confusing what Pulse considers a hit or a miss these days. You will figure out So 3 weeks at #1 is considered a failure now? Good to know. Hey I knew the song was polarizing the minute I heard it; I didn't think it would go over very well for a lot of people, but nevertheless, a #1 song is still a #1 song and really shouldn't be considered a failure by any measure. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 9:06:15 GMT -5
So 3 weeks at #1 is considered a failure now? Good to know. Hey I knew the song was polarizing the minute I heard it; I didn't think it would go over very well for a lot of people, but nevertheless, a #1 song is still a #1 song and really shouldn't be considered a failure by any measure. Its not a failure that she can get to #1 based on name alone, but that radio is already willing to stop playing it, for example |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 9:39:26 GMT -5
What were all the songs that dropped out today?
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Post by rimetm on Oct 3, 2017 9:45:11 GMT -5
acharts.co/us_singles_top_100/2017/41#dropoutsPrevious Title Artist Peak Weeks 48 Mask Off Future 5 31 66 Too Much To Ask Niall Horan 66 1 92 Homemade Dynamite Lorde featuring Khalid , Post Malone and SZA 92 1 93 Drinkin' Problem Midland 45 20 96 Everybody Dies In Their Nightmares Xxxtentacion 54 4 98 These Heaux Bhad Bhabie 77 3 100 No Complaints Metro Boomin featuring Offset and Drake 71 5
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Post by Gary on Oct 3, 2017 10:27:07 GMT -5
Here is the top 10
The first # is the Hot 100 position, the second is digital songs, the third is airplay, the fourth is streams (NC= not charting)
H100 digital Airplay Streams Title, Artist
1 3 11 1 # 1 2 wks Bodak Yellow (Money Moves), Cardi B
2 4 NC 2 Rockstar, Post Malone Featuring 21 Savage
3 2 7 6 Look What You Made Me Do, Taylor Swift
4 7 14 3 1-800-273-8255, Logic Featuring Alessia Cara & Khalid
5 13 21 5 Despacito, Luis Fonsi & Daddy Yankee Featuring Justin Bieber
6 28 6 9 Unforgettable, French Montana Featuring Swae Lee
7 5 4 35 Feel It Still, Portugal. The Man
8 11 9 16 Believer, Imagine Dragons
9 24 25 7 Rake It Up, Yo Gotti Featuring Nicki Minaj
10 6 20 12 Sorry Not Sorry, Demi Lovato
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 10:28:49 GMT -5
The only good XXXTentacion song falls off..... Everbody Dies In Their Nightmares is actually pretty good.
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Post by forg on Oct 3, 2017 11:02:39 GMT -5
How Do I Live is the theme song of Con Air, a box office hit of that year. That definitely is an added factor to the song's popularity. I personally love it. It's a sweet love song. I didn't expect Sorry Not Sorry hitting the top 10 would ignite some heated talk here  Not quite with Con Air. LeAnn recorded it for the film, but Disney rejected it as too pop and LeAnn being too young. Trisha Yearwood then recorded it for the movie, which was also released as a single on the SAME DAY. LeAnn’s video was filmed in a way that anticipated scenes from film being inserted. That didn’t happen. It’s quite a messy story. I forget the song has two versions and the LeAnn Rhimes version was the one that charted high on Billboard. The Trisha Yearwood was the one that was popular in my country |
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Post by scrohr424 on Oct 3, 2017 11:35:50 GMT -5
*sees I Fall Apart debut at #65*
Ho boy. Spectrum Pulse's most hated song off of Stoney, along with Deja Vu. He's gonna be pissed big time on Billboard Breakdown tonight.
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Post by Leaf on Oct 3, 2017 13:18:29 GMT -5
oh no
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Post by singingrulebritannia on Oct 3, 2017 14:24:30 GMT -5
*sees I Fall Apart debut at #65* Ho boy. Spectrum Pulse's most hated song off of Stoney, along with Deja Vu. He's gonna be pissed big time on Billboard Breakdown tonight. That guy has the most boring taste in the world |
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 3, 2017 14:38:47 GMT -5
I honestly have nothing towards SNS being his least favorite song. My critic was only about this part of his comment " Demi is just so... Annoying vocally" . Again, most people can read the presentation of that statement as his personal feelings without the IMO qualifier. Hilary Duff's "This Is What Dreams Are Made Of" The only Duff song I remember hearing out in the wild as a non-Disney Channel-sitcom-watching kid was "So Yesterday", for what that's worth. Wasn't "Come Clean" the theme song for Laguna Beach? I associate the song with that TV show at any rate, and it's what got me into the song. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 3, 2017 14:41:20 GMT -5
That's probably true because the single didn't live up to the expectations and I would be a hypocrite to say otherwise at this point. But you know what, that's fine for me... sometimes we need to fail to really put some effort into the next thing. And saying this song isn't a hit is wrong anyway. It's not wrong. It's just called a different opinion What really matters for me is the song longevity and how it will affect the artist's future This is not a matter of underperformance because every pop girl goes through it or whatever, she did that to herself The song was #1 on the Hot 100 for 3 weeks and is still top 3. It's also still #2 on iTunes in terms of current songs. To that end it's most certainly a hit. Now, it may not be one of Swift's biggest hits and it can be seen as being a disappointing lead single, but in a general sense it's a hit. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 14:47:53 GMT -5
Post Malone is bigger than Taylor Swift now. NOW THATS SOMETHIG I REALLY DIDNT EXPECT
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Post by badrobot on Oct 3, 2017 16:12:30 GMT -5
Is this the first time a song has earned "top airplay gainer" without actually being on the airplay chat?
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Post by rainie on Oct 3, 2017 17:38:34 GMT -5
I get why streaming makes up so many points, but imo it's a telling sign that it's weighted too heavily when a song that's not even charting on the airplay chart is still #2 purely because of streaming power.
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Post by Au$tin on Oct 3, 2017 18:29:09 GMT -5
I get why streaming makes up so many points, but imo it's a telling sign that it's weighted too heavily when a song that's not even charting on the airplay chart is still #2 purely because of streaming power. Is that really the problem, or is rockstar just being streamed that much? |
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Post by rainie on Oct 3, 2017 18:36:06 GMT -5
I get why streaming makes up so many points, but imo it's a telling sign that it's weighted too heavily when a song that's not even charting on the airplay chart is still #2 purely because of streaming power. Is that really the problem, or is rockstar just being streamed that much? Both, but mainly the first one imo. |
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Post by 85la on Oct 4, 2017 0:06:24 GMT -5
Here is the top 10 The first # is the Hot 100 position, the second is digital songs, the third is airplay, the fourth is streams (NC= not charting) H100 digital Airplay Streams Title, Artist 1 3 11 1 # 1 2 wks Bodak Yellow (Money Moves), Cardi B 2 4 NC 2 Rockstar, Post Malone Featuring 21 Savage 3 2 7 6 Look What You Made Me Do, Taylor Swift 4 7 14 3 1-800-273-8255, Logic Featuring Alessia Cara & Khalid 5 13 21 5 Despacito, Luis Fonsi & Daddy Yankee Featuring Justin Bieber 6 28 6 9 Unforgettable, French Montana Featuring Swae Lee 7 5 4 35 Feel It Still, Portugal. The Man 8 11 9 16 Believer, Imagine Dragons 9 24 25 7 Rake It Up, Yo Gotti Featuring Nicki Minaj 10 6 20 12 Sorry Not Sorry, Demi Lovato Thank you so much Gary for this! I don't know what everyone else thinks, but it's nice to see all the component chart rankings for the Hot 100 top ten condensed into one chart, and it would be awesome to see this every week. |
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Post by divasummer on Oct 4, 2017 0:24:27 GMT -5
I get why streaming makes up so many points, but imo it's a telling sign that it's weighted too heavily when a song that's not even charting on the airplay chart is still #2 purely because of streaming power. Why if the songs are being heard just as much but a lot of the time by choice because people like it. It's also selling very well so maybe radio is a little slow? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2017 1:11:08 GMT -5
I get why streaming makes up so many points, but imo it's a telling sign that it's weighted too heavily when a song that's not even charting on the airplay chart is still #2 purely because of streaming power. Why if the songs are being heard just as much but a lot of the time by choice because people like it. It's also selling very well so maybe radio is a little slow? Most of the song's stream are only from music apps like AM and Spotify alone, without a video. I think this is pretty impressive and deserved of a #2 spot this week Not to mention that song actually hit #1 in a few countries in Europe and Oceania I also have to say that most of the time, #1 on sales is not really impressive anymore compared to a song that is like #6 on streaming |
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