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Post by Juan Carlos on Oct 11, 2017 8:51:21 GMT -5
Next single from Bebe Rexha's latest EP All Your Fault: Pt. 2 called "Meant To Be", which is a collaboration with Florida Georgia Line. The track, which is under Cool New Music on AllAccess, goes for adds on October 24.
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Post by Elusive Chanteuse on Oct 11, 2017 9:30:25 GMT -5
I dislike this. Bebe sounds like a feature on her own song. They should be pushing Not The One instead, that sounds like a huge hit to me.
Honestly, I cannot comprehend how it's doing well on iTunes and Spotify. Maybe it'll be a hit for her but I personally don't see it. I find it hard to believe Pop would be willing to latch on this especially when FGL is already featured on Hailee's new song and Pop is never friendly in terms of giving Country artists more than one song recognition at a time.
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Post by Taylor. on Oct 11, 2017 9:36:57 GMT -5
What's with all the FGL collabs on pop songs?
Should have gone with Not The One.
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Post by Bwol on Oct 11, 2017 10:34:35 GMT -5
^Yeahhh I agree. FGL has always annoyed me actually. I hated H.O.L.Y and Cruise was weird...
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Post by ClevelandRox on Oct 11, 2017 10:35:47 GMT -5
Giving back my Stan card, she's lost me.
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Post by ilikemusic on Oct 11, 2017 17:32:04 GMT -5
The payola and insane amount of industry support this girl gets is astounding. I would’ve dropped her five failed singles ago....
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Post by AP on Oct 11, 2017 17:35:01 GMT -5
Bebe's streaming numbers are great (YouTube, Spotify, etc). She's a profitable act at this point - no reason why she'd be dropped. She's well-liked within the industry and the strategy of one-off singles/EPs vs. a full-length has really worked for her.
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Post by djea92 on Oct 12, 2017 3:23:12 GMT -5
I dislike this. Bebe sounds like a feature on her own song. They should be pushing Not The One instead, that sounds like a huge hit to me. Honestly, I cannot comprehend how it's doing well on iTunes and Spotify. Maybe it'll be a hit for her but I personally don't see it. I find it hard to believe Pop would be willing to latch on this especially when FGL is already featured on Hailee's new song and Pop is never friendly in terms of giving Country artists more than one song recognition at a time. Yeah her and her team are clueless honestly. Bad Bitch should have been a single after how massive it was on streaming. And now they're passing up Not the One (which not only is catchier, but sounds like her own song) in place of this generic rent a country star single.
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Post by Bigfatliar 3 on Oct 13, 2017 13:16:55 GMT -5
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Post by ilikemusic on Oct 14, 2017 6:41:23 GMT -5
Bebe's streaming numbers are great (YouTube, Spotify, etc). She's a profitable act at this point - no reason why she'd be dropped. She's well-liked within the industry and the strategy of one-off singles/EPs vs. a full-length has really worked for her. She has had 5-6 singles since 2014 with full on music videos/serviced to radio and literally none of them peaked in the Top 40 (I Got You is her highest peaking at #41). That ain’t cheap. She’s a cute feat. girl but she just can’t seem to get a legitimate solo hit to help her ascend out of C-list popstar status
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Post by AP on Oct 14, 2017 12:05:03 GMT -5
Bebe's streaming numbers are great (YouTube, Spotify, etc). She's a profitable act at this point - no reason why she'd be dropped. She's well-liked within the industry and the strategy of one-off singles/EPs vs. a full-length has really worked for her. She has had 5-6 singles since 2014 with full on music videos/serviced to radio and literally none of them peaked in the Top 40 (I Got You is her highest peaking at #41). That ain’t cheap. She’s a cute feat. girl but she just can’t seem to get a legitimate solo hit to help her ascend out of C-list popstar status It’s not always about pop radio or Billboard chart success when it comes to making a profit.
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Post by Choco on Oct 14, 2017 13:33:01 GMT -5
Girl, no.
I liked I Got You and a few of her earlier collabs, but this is a hard pass for me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 13:39:35 GMT -5
Not really into this at all
Comfortable or Not The One would've been far better picks
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Post by djea92 on Oct 14, 2017 14:42:41 GMT -5
She put up a poll to her fans on twitter and Not the One beat Meant to Be 51-49% lol
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Post by graham on Oct 14, 2017 15:14:16 GMT -5
This is decent I guess. What's funny is that Bebe sounded like the lead artist on Back To You and the feature on this.
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Post by tinawina on Oct 14, 2017 15:23:49 GMT -5
This girl is what happens when the marketing department picks acts. She works on paper, but in real life no one cares. There is nothing compelling about her. It takes more than just being a hot songwriter with a decent voice.
There’s always two or three girls around like this labels are trying hard to make happen. They never learn.
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Post by graham on Oct 14, 2017 16:01:39 GMT -5
^Daya?
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Post by ilikemusic on Oct 14, 2017 16:03:46 GMT -5
She has had 5-6 singles since 2014 with full on music videos/serviced to radio and literally none of them peaked in the Top 40 (I Got You is her highest peaking at #41). That ain’t cheap. She’s a cute feat. girl but she just can’t seem to get a legitimate solo hit to help her ascend out of C-list popstar status It’s not always about pop radio or Billboard chart success when it comes to making a profit. Realistically, how profitable is she though? You have to take into consideration they’ve probably spent tens of millions of dollars over the past three years trying to make her happen (radio, video shoots, promo, flights, studio sessions, hiring other producers/writers, etc) and I don’t think she has a single platinum song to her name outside of her features. Has she ever gone on tour before? Does she have an actual fanbase to warrant it?
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Post by ilikemusic on Oct 14, 2017 16:09:59 GMT -5
This girl is what happens when the marketing department picks acts. She works on paper, but in real life no one cares. There is nothing compelling about her. It takes more than just being a hot songwriter with a decent voice. There’s always two or three girls around like this labels are trying hard to make happen. They never learn. To be honest, that’s the problem with a lot of newer female pop artists and why none of them are all that successful, and why the charts the past two years have been a sausage fest. There’s nothing remotely interesting about Bebe Rexha, Hailee Steinfeld, Daya, Zara Larsson, and without that viral music video Dua Lipa would be in this category too becuase her actual song is super generic and bland. Julia Michaels has proven herself to be a bankable songwriter but artistically she’s boring and doesn’t have that “X Factor” we see in artists like Gaga, Rihanna, Beyoncé, P!nk, Katy Perry, Ariana Grande, etc. It’s ironic if the marketing dept did choose her, because all the aforementioned people lack a cohesive brand and a distinct identity to the point where listeners would be able to point out “Oh this is soo a Bebe Rexha song”. The last female popstar with decent branding was Meghan Trainor before LA Reid decided to have her rush into a second era and destroy every element of her brand that made her successful in the first place. Sometimes I genuinely just don’t understand why certain people get picked for these grand opportunities. The industry hasn’t broken a massive pop act in years.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2017 16:22:47 GMT -5
This girl is what happens when the marketing department picks acts. She works on paper, but in real life no one cares. There is nothing compelling about her. It takes more than just being a hot songwriter with a decent voice. There’s always two or three girls around like this labels are trying hard to make happen. They never learn. To be honest, that’s the problem with a lot of newer female pop artists and why none of them are all that successful, and why the charts the past two years have been a sausage fest. There’s nothing remotely interesting about Bebe Rexha, Hailee Steinfeld, Daya, Zara Larsson, and without that viral music video Dua Lipa would be in this category too becuase her actual song is super generic and bland. Julia Michaels has proven herself to be a bankable songwriter but artistically she’s boring and doesn’t have that “X Factor” we see in artists like Gaga, Rihanna, Beyoncé, P!nk, Katy Perry, Ariana Grande, etc. It’s ironic if the marketing dept did choose her, because all the aforementioned people lack a cohesive brand and a distinct identity to the point where listeners would be able to point out “Oh this is soo a Bebe Rexha song”. The last female popstar with decent branding was Meghan Trainor before LA Reid decided to have her rush into a second era and destroy every element of her brand that made her successful in the first place. Sometimes I genuinely just don’t understand why certain people get picked for these grand opportunities. The industry hasn’t broken a massive pop act in years. Oh haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaail no Rest of those girls make mostly bland standard go to pop songs, Dua outclasses them and actually has a name just not in the states, unlike the rest of those girls These two songs especially sets her apart from the rest Vocally she is also far superior to the rest cause of her deeper range
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Post by ilikemusic on Oct 14, 2017 17:26:26 GMT -5
To be honest, that’s the problem with a lot of newer female pop artists and why none of them are all that successful, and why the charts the past two years have been a sausage fest. There’s nothing remotely interesting about Bebe Rexha, Hailee Steinfeld, Daya, Zara Larsson, and without that viral music video Dua Lipa would be in this category too becuase her actual song is super generic and bland. Julia Michaels has proven herself to be a bankable songwriter but artistically she’s boring and doesn’t have that “X Factor” we see in artists like Gaga, Rihanna, Beyoncé, P!nk, Katy Perry, Ariana Grande, etc. It’s ironic if the marketing dept did choose her, because all the aforementioned people lack a cohesive brand and a distinct identity to the point where listeners would be able to point out “Oh this is soo a Bebe Rexha song”. The last female popstar with decent branding was Meghan Trainor before LA Reid decided to have her rush into a second era and destroy every element of her brand that made her successful in the first place. Sometimes I genuinely just don’t understand why certain people get picked for these grand opportunities. The industry hasn’t broken a massive pop act in years. Oh haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaail no Rest of those girls make mostly bland standard go to pop songs, Dua outclasses them and actually has a name just not in the states, unlike the rest of those girls These two songs especially sets her apart from the rest Vocally she is also far superior to the rest cause of her deeper range Dua Lipa has a distinctive voice -- I'll give you that, but I've listened to her album multiple times and although I do quite like a few songs (Blow Your Mind is my favorite), her music is interchangeable with other European female popstars. She needs her music to match the uniqueness of her voice. Personally if I was her A&R I'd have her do more Amy Winehouse-esque songs, maybe not as retro but my point is, she needs songs that are going to highlight the huskiness and darker quality of her timbre, and an image to match. Her brand is all over the place and not cohesive at all. Generic paint by numbers pop songs only work in 2017 if you're a former member of One Direction, let's be real, lol. The public has been straying further and further away from the Max Martin sound that has dominated pop for 15+ years, but most of these label fronted pop girls are releasing songs that sound straight out of 2011, without the carefully crafted Katy Perry-ite image to match
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Post by tinawina on Oct 14, 2017 17:28:19 GMT -5
This girl is what happens when the marketing department picks acts. She works on paper, but in real life no one cares. There is nothing compelling about her. It takes more than just being a hot songwriter with a decent voice. There’s always two or three girls around like this labels are trying hard to make happen. They never learn. To be honest, that’s the problem with a lot of newer female pop artists and why none of them are all that successful, and why the charts the past two years have been a sausage fest. There’s nothing remotely interesting about Bebe Rexha, Hailee Steinfeld, Daya, Zara Larsson, and without that viral music video Dua Lipa would be in this category too becuase her actual song is super generic and bland. Julia Michaels has proven herself to be a bankable songwriter but artistically she’s boring and doesn’t have that “X Factor” we see in artists like Gaga, Rihanna, Beyoncé, P!nk, Katy Perry, Ariana Grande, etc. It’s ironic if the marketing dept did choose her, because all the aforementioned people lack a cohesive brand and a distinct identity to the point where listeners would be able to point out “Oh this is soo a Bebe Rexha song”. The last female popstar with decent branding was Meghan Trainor before LA Reid decided to have her rush into a second era and destroy every element of her brand that made her successful in the first place. Sometimes I genuinely just don’t understand why certain people get picked for these grand opportunities. The industry hasn’t broken a massive pop act in years. You’re right, maybe it’s not the marketing department. In my head I see someone going “she looks good, she can sing, she can move, she writes songs, she is connected to famous people, she has social media followers... she’s Albanian so that’s close to Armenian like a Kardashian! that’s trendy! Sign her!” Like she checks a bunch of boxes so they see the potential for endorsements and fake publicity boyfriends. But no one is stopping to see if artistically, she brings anything new to the table... bottom line if she’s not going to stand out on the radio or have a strong visual POV no ones going to care about her beyond maybe one generic hit song. The difference between someone like the people you listed and someone like Lorde or even Alessia Cara is striking to me. With those two I totally get it. With the Pia Mia’s of the word on the other hand... And I totally agree about the epic botching of Meghan Trainor.
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Post by Choco on Oct 14, 2017 17:34:40 GMT -5
I was gonna complain about the Dua Lipa comment but your second post I actually kind of agree with. As much as I like her debut, there's a lot of room to improve with the next album.
Hailee Steinfeld is a particularly weird case. None of her songs have a distinctive quality or "identity", and she's a much better actress than singer. At least Bebe writes her stuff...
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Post by COW COW COW COW COW COW COW on Oct 15, 2017 0:08:42 GMT -5
Maybe Albanians are just kind of boring and have boring personalities? Maybe Rita Ora, Bleta Rexha and Dua Lipa are the most bi-polar, Tigger-like Albanians in the whole world. For all we know, they are.
But before we blame it all on their bland lack of identity - what about Sweden's Tove Lo? She has a brand (one that gets old fast, "I do drugs and have sex a lot. I'm deep cause I have damage.") and she isn't going to get any more U.S. hits.
Also, the UK's Halsey seems to be doing decently as of late, and she is boring AND pretentious. I think what matters most is the song.
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Post by upsidedown on Oct 15, 2017 8:42:54 GMT -5
163 144 BEBE REXHA Meant To Be f/F.G.L. 23 16 7 0.056
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Post by Monarca on Oct 15, 2017 9:07:46 GMT -5
Bebe is really talented and beautiful. The song is OK, but definitely not a hit.
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Post by divasummer on Oct 15, 2017 13:36:29 GMT -5
It’s not always about pop radio or Billboard chart success when it comes to making a profit. Realistically, how profitable is she though? You have to take into consideration they’ve probably spent tens of millions of dollars over the past three years trying to make her happen (radio, video shoots, promo, flights, studio sessions, hiring other producers/writers, etc) and I don’t think she has a single platinum song to her name outside of her features. Has she ever gone on tour before? Does she have an actual fanbase to warrant it? Yes she has been on tour. Recently actually. My friends daughter saw her with a friend in NY. Ashanti made a special appearance as well. I think she has a small like cult following. My friends daughter is 19. BTW, I agree with most of what you said. lol. I was surprised she toured and had a fanbase as well. Someone mentioned she song wrote as well. Perhaps keeping her signed as an artist as well is part of her songwriting deal???? I have no clue on this one. lol
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 13:38:28 GMT -5
Also, the UK's Halsey seems to be doing decently as of late, and she is boring AND pretentious. I think what matters most is the song. Honey, Halsey is American In terms of how Bebe is making money Bebe makes money cause she does do songwriting, mainly being the writer behind Eminem & Rihanna - "The Monster" And has been featured on a couple of major hits "Me, Myself, & I", "In The Name Of Love", "Hey Mama", etc Aside from that she even managed to get a hosting gig on last year's EMAs and has performed on several shows
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Post by divasummer on Oct 15, 2017 13:43:45 GMT -5
This girl is what happens when the marketing department picks acts. She works on paper, but in real life no one cares. There is nothing compelling about her. It takes more than just being a hot songwriter with a decent voice. There’s always two or three girls around like this labels are trying hard to make happen. They never learn. To be honest, that’s the problem with a lot of newer female pop artists and why none of them are all that successful, and why the charts the past two years have been a sausage fest. There’s nothing remotely interesting about Bebe Rexha, Hailee Steinfeld, Daya, Zara Larsson, and without that viral music video Dua Lipa would be in this category too becuase her actual song is super generic and bland. Julia Michaels has proven herself to be a bankable songwriter but artistically she’s boring and doesn’t have that “X Factor” we see in artists like Gaga, Rihanna, Beyoncé, P!nk, Katy Perry, Ariana Grande, etc. It’s ironic if the marketing dept did choose her, because all the aforementioned people lack a cohesive brand and a distinct identity to the point where listeners would be able to point out “Oh this is soo a Bebe Rexha song”. The last female popstar with decent branding was Meghan Trainor before LA Reid decided to have her rush into a second era and destroy every element of her brand that made her successful in the first place. Sometimes I genuinely just don’t understand why certain people get picked for these grand opportunities. The industry hasn’t broken a massive pop act in years. Good post and I remember saying something similar about all the names you mentioned. lol (i kind of thought i was just getting old) Even though I own some of their music it took me awhile to get Daya, BeBe, Alessia, Zara etc music straight. lol
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Post by COW COW COW COW COW COW COW on Oct 17, 2017 22:30:30 GMT -5
Also, the UK's Halsey seems to be doing decently as of late, and she is boring AND pretentious. I think what matters most is the song. Honey, Halsey is American In terms of how Bebe is making money Bebe makes money cause she does do songwriting, mainly being the writer behind Eminem & Rihanna - "The Monster" And has been featured on a couple of major hits "Me, Myself, & I", "In The Name Of Love", "Hey Mama", etc Aside from that she even managed to get a hosting gig on last year's EMAs and has performed on several shows Oops. Didn't realize Halsey was American, but that's because she is so bland and boring, I guess. Now, it is true that Bebe herself makes money as a songwriter, but the original question we were all discussing is does she make her label any money as an artist/pop act. For example, Bonnie McKee has written and co-written hit records - but she only got one shot ("American Girl") to make it as an artist (granted, she never featured on a hit - but still). BeBe has had more failed singles as a lead artist than anyone in recent pop music memory (seriously going back to the 60's, pretty much). Music videos cost and promo cost millions - and the record company has surely not seen that back from her. For all we know, the EMA hosting gig could have been paid for by her label to promote her.
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