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Post by foxxden on Jan 28, 2018 22:31:03 GMT -5
No nonsense - the 2017 AMAs were on November 19 - almost 3 months ago. Plus like you said, it was before “BT” was sent to Radio. It’s nice to showcase different songs from an album but the best promotion for an album is a hit single. “BT” has built up more of an audience since November and thus its performance on such a high profile show such as The Grammys would likely be more impactful.
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Post by Au$tin on Jan 29, 2018 7:19:32 GMT -5
No nonsense - the 2017 AMAs were on November 19 - almost 3 months ago. Plus like you said, it was before “BT” was sent to Radio. It’s nice to showcase different songs from an album but the best promotion for an album is a hit single. “BT” has built up more of an audience since November and thus its performance on such a high profile show such as The Grammys would likely be more impactful. No, you said it was performed 3 months before it was sent to radio. I corrected you and said it was performed 1 damn week before it was released. It was sent to radio in November. Its video came out in November. All of that packed into a week and a half should have got it going immediately. (The best part of all this? November was only 2 months ago, not 3.) Seriously, can you not see there just isn't any reason to keep trying to push this? It's already doing its job on her core format. It's DOA on pop. A Grammy performance wasn't going to change any of that. Besides, it looks like her team has moved the f**k on too. WHCBB has a music video coming soon.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jan 29, 2018 8:12:55 GMT -5
Au$tin you disappoint me. This is far from DOA on pop, and you of all people should know better. POP:32 30 P!NK Beautiful Trauma 2047 1715 332 7.148 +60 Spins +21 Bullet +0.380 Audience HOT AC:10 10 P!NK Beautiful Trauma 3780 3525 255 23.466 +59 Spins +38 Bullet +0.357 Audience
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Post by Au$tin on Jan 29, 2018 9:49:03 GMT -5
I mean, it's nice that this is getting +50s and +60s, but unless this miraculously turns into +100s (which is doubtful at this point with or without a Grammy performance because it's P!nk, not Ed Sheeran) or turns into the rare "Give Your Heart a Break"/"Lights Down Low" type of hit, it's probably not going to go much further than the lower 20s.
Especially since these updates are coming after weeks of the trudging along with +20s and +30s, this feels more like its final hurrah to its peak than it actually taking off.
I know the "it's not over until the fat lady sings" saying, and technically this isn't over! In fact, it probably still has three or four weeks before it finally crashes on pop and still has lots of room to grow on Hot AC. However, she isn't fat, but last night the lady sang, and it wasn't this.
Also, I'm probably just bitter because I'm super over this and ready for WHCBB to become the smash hit it deserves to be (and Bruno undeservedly swept last night).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2018 9:51:55 GMT -5
I just know to not count a Pink song out until it's totally out and come back from the dead at least once.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jan 29, 2018 10:03:20 GMT -5
I'm gonna take it that you're just burnt on the song Austin, and leave it at that - 'cause this has only been top 40 for five weeks and I can't @ you being a damn quitter.
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Post by foxxden on Jan 29, 2018 14:17:48 GMT -5
No nonsense - the 2017 AMAs were on November 19 - almost 3 months ago. Plus like you said, it was before “BT” was sent to Radio. It’s nice to showcase different songs from an album but the best promotion for an album is a hit single. “BT” has built up more of an audience since November and thus its performance on such a high profile show such as The Grammys would likely be more impactful. No, you said it was performed 3 months before it was sent to radio. I corrected you and said it was performed 1 damn week before it was released. It was sent to radio in November. Its video came out in November. All of that packed into a week and a half should have got it going immediately. (The best part of all this? November was only 2 months ago, not 3.) Seriously, can you not see there just isn't any reason to keep trying to push this? It's already doing its job on her core format. It's DOA on pop. A Grammy performance wasn't going to change any of that. Besides, it looks like her team has moved the f**k on too. WHCBB has a music video coming soon. Oh lord, it's not that serious. I said the AMA performance was "almost 3 months ago". It was on 11/19/17, we are a few days away from February...hence the almost 3 months ago.
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Post by It's me, bitch. on Jan 30, 2018 0:56:57 GMT -5
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Post by Dylan :) on Jan 30, 2018 5:08:00 GMT -5
Someone requested this on the radio last night and they played it, it sounded great! They didn’t know the name, they just said “her new song”, so there was a tense moment where I was afraid they would play the months old (and slightly overplayed) What About Us. They also played Just Like Fire a lot, this station must love her (and it is the biggest in the city and county)
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Post by Az Paynter on Jan 30, 2018 6:20:24 GMT -5
POP: 32 30 P!NK Beautiful Trauma 2092 1750 342 7.173
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HOT AC: 10 10 P!NK Beautiful Trauma 3808 3530 278 23.490
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 11:23:26 GMT -5
DOA - lol
This BETTER do better than the atrocious Funhouse, even that reached 21 or 22, if I remember correctly.
Great updates...I, too, wish she had done a Grammy promo for this, but her album is the major success this era, so promoting it and showing diversity was the right call.
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Post by AP on Jan 30, 2018 11:47:26 GMT -5
The fact that this has kinda stalled around #10 on Hot AC makes me think it’s not connecting well with her main demo there, which doesn’t give me much hope for pop (similar to Kelly’s LSS)
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Post by leonagwen on Jan 30, 2018 11:58:39 GMT -5
I see this peaking between #20 and #30 on Pop.
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Post by Dylan :) on Jan 30, 2018 13:03:55 GMT -5
The “my love, my drug” chant thing after the chorus should have been cut, and it wouldn’t surprise me if that was affecting itsHAC run for some reason
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Post by Az Paynter on Jan 30, 2018 13:05:55 GMT -5
The fact that this has kinda stalled around #10 on Hot AC makes me think it’s not connecting well with her main demo there, which doesn’t give me much hope for pop (similar to Kelly’s LSS) 'What About Us' is directly above this on Hot AC still; I can see BT getting some steam back once more airplay converts over from WAU.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jan 31, 2018 6:30:59 GMT -5
POP: 31 30 P!NK Beautiful Trauma 2117 1818 299 7.221
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HOT AC: 10 10 P!NK Beautiful Trauma 3853 3566 287 23.587
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AC: 37 30 P!NK Beautiful Trauma 50 37 13 0.156
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 1, 2018 6:22:00 GMT -5
A single spin away from overtaking 'What About Us' on Hot AC.
POP: 31 30 P!NK Beautiful Trauma 2158 1850 308 7.539
+41 Spins +9 Bullet +0.318 Audience
HOT AC: 10 9 P!NK Beautiful Trauma 3895 3611 284 23.546
+42 Spins +3 Bullet -0.041 Audience
AC: 38 32 P!NK Beautiful Trauma 57 34 23 0.208
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Post by #LisaRinna on Feb 1, 2018 12:58:18 GMT -5
Oh! DOA!
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Post by tomgsinger on Feb 1, 2018 18:02:31 GMT -5
Someone requested this on the radio last night and they played it, it sounded great! They didn’t know the name, they just said “her new song”, so there was a tense moment where I was afraid they would play the months old (and slightly overplayed) What About Us. They also played Just Like Fire a lot, this station must love her (and it is the biggest in the city and county) What station is it? I'm low key intrigued.
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Post by Dylan :) on Feb 1, 2018 18:03:39 GMT -5
Someone requested this on the radio last night and they played it, it sounded great! They didn’t know the name, they just said “her new song”, so there was a tense moment where I was afraid they would play the months old (and slightly overplayed) What About Us. They also played Just Like Fire a lot, this station must love her (and it is the biggest in the city and county) What station is it? I'm low key intrigued. I'm from Ireland but it's 96FM (probably useful info though since it isn't the US). #12 on iTunes here :)
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 2, 2018 6:20:22 GMT -5
POP: 31 30 P!NK Beautiful Trauma 2188 1902 286 7.756
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HOT AC: 10 8 P!NK Beautiful Trauma 3926 3621 305 23.711
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 3, 2018 7:11:01 GMT -5
Pushed out of top 30 by Zedd/Grey/Maren, and if that wasn't enough there's also Weeknd/Kendrick debuting.
POP: 31 31 P!NK Beautiful Trauma 2202 1933 269 7.869
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HOT AC: 10 8 P!NK Beautiful Trauma 3952 3678 274 23.676
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Feb 3, 2018 9:24:19 GMT -5
I was reading some comments about the grammys and most of the comments about Pink were along the lines of why doesn't she do fun stuff anymore why is everything she does sounds like a slow drippy ballad remember when she used to be upbeat and exciting...and then general comments about how everyone did some emotional ballad performance at the awards and how that was so boring and they wished someone like Gaga would have danced and did something upbeat and fun. Anyway, I still feel like a big, colorful, fun performance of this at the Grammys would have stood out so much more than her singing what she did. Maybe I am just biased and obviously it was a superb performance and I get that the awards are more about serious, slow performances than fun upbeat ones. But, I just felt like arguing with people who were saying she is boring and only does drippy ballads now, but I kind of understand why a general audience would feel that way that isn't that familiar with her. Anyway, I am still loving this even if it doesn't go any further and I am glad they released it
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Feb 3, 2018 10:07:32 GMT -5
If she had done a performance from the air again people would have said her routine is old and tired.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2018 10:09:42 GMT -5
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 4, 2018 7:14:44 GMT -5
POP: 30 31 P!NK Beautiful Trauma 2236 1988 248 8.190
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Post by leonagwen on Feb 4, 2018 18:22:13 GMT -5
Pink did an awesome job on the National Anthem!!
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Post by Snowbeast on Feb 5, 2018 3:56:46 GMT -5
If she had done a performance from the air again people would have said her routine is old and tired. Because it is. We’ve seen it multiple times and the wow factor is gone. I agree that she’s due for an uptempo, and they’ve always done well for her. Haven’t listened to the record due to lack of interest, but if there’s anything in vein of U + UR Hand, So What, or anything she had a cup of coffee before recording, let me know so I can check it out.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Feb 5, 2018 7:50:14 GMT -5
She could have performed on an island somewhere outside the venue. Despite getting done at least once at one of the award shows, it somehow never gets old.
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Post by Az Paynter on Feb 5, 2018 8:24:43 GMT -5
POP: 30 31 P!NK Beautiful Trauma 2319 2047 272 8.884
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