mako
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Post by mako on Dec 27, 2017 4:30:50 GMT -5
And that Candy Paint peaked at 58 ON 1/6/2018 I don't know why, but every time, one day before the next chart posting, new peaks will be revealed. |
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Post by pja on Dec 27, 2017 7:17:55 GMT -5
Wrong, trashy works in that context as well. Gold star taken back I didn't realize this was so important to you that you had to respond days later after the conversation ended. Not to mention you're wrong. Obviously its just as important to you as you felt the the need to respond as well. Trashy = of poor quality....That definition definitely fits since he obviously thinks the song is of poor quality. but you can keep your head in the sand if you like. |
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Post by fhas on Dec 27, 2017 9:35:32 GMT -5
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 27, 2017 9:54:54 GMT -5
^Yeah, just noticed it myself. That's definitely wrong ...
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Post by mako on Dec 27, 2017 10:11:29 GMT -5
^Weird.
Notable songs on 01/06/2018
5. No Limit (+5)
11. River (NEW)
13. New Rules (+1)
15. Him & I (+11)
16. I Fall Apart (+3)
22. Love. (+3)
24. Shape Of You (-1)
26. Plain Jane (+20)
29. The Weekend (+10)
30. Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree (+4)
32. It's The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year (+3)
37. The Christmas Song (+1)
38. A Holly Jolly Christmas (+3)
42. End Game (+7)
43. Last Christmas (+1)
46. Lemon (+12)
49. Feliz Navidad (RE)
50. Jingle Bell Rock (RE)
52. Meant To Be (+4)
57. Lights Down Low (+2)
58. Candy Paint (+4)
61. Good Old Days (+3)
63. Marry Me (+39)
67. Tennessee Rain (NEW)
68. The Race (RE)
69. Wish I Didn't Love You (NEW)
71. My Dawg (+6)
73. Tell Me You Love Me (+8)
80. No Smoke (+13)
82. Ice Tray (NEW)
84. I Pray (NEW)
87. Walk On Water (RE)
90. Home (RE)
92. Believe (NEW)
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Post by paulhaney on Dec 27, 2017 10:36:21 GMT -5
Here's the note on the date change from Billboard Plus:
The Jan. 6, 2018-dated charts you see in Billboard Plus this week are actually our charts dated *Jan. 3, 2018.* Please keep that in mind when downloading this week's batch of Jan. 6-dated charts when communicating with your staff, clients and customers. (The date mismatch is a temporary issue, owed in part to our overall charts date changes for 2018.)
Having done extensive chart database work, a date change such as this can be a nightmare. Anytime you have a database set up on a seven-day cycle and then change to a longer/shorter cycle, well, let's just say it's complicated and I understand why they have to do it this way.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 27, 2017 14:34:42 GMT -5
^At least the Hot 100 has the date fixed. It does seem that Billboard Biz charts are still messed up ...
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Post by 85la on Dec 27, 2017 16:03:16 GMT -5
What is this Billboard Plus? I've never heard of it.
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Post by jebsib on Dec 27, 2017 19:38:56 GMT -5
^ Paul works for Joel Whitburn. Billboard Plus is probably some business-to-business pipeline to Billboard info that is a premium version of Billboard.biz. I think you can download PDFs of all the charts.
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Post by Music Fan on Dec 27, 2017 23:44:44 GMT -5
Can someone explain why Bocelli got no credit and Beyonce remained? I thought the rule was "majority of the points" and I doubt perfect duet had 51% of the song's points, right? Wouldn't it had been or featuring Beyonce or Andrea Bocelli?
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 27, 2017 23:55:42 GMT -5
^By not disclosing the split for the digital sales between the original version and duet, they avoided having to justify their decision. Basically, it is an arbitrary exception what Billboard chart editors decided to do, rather than an application of the strict rule you just mentioned. To me, they want to avoid the criticism and anger of Beyhive fans even though removing the chart credit would probably be the technically correct thing to do.
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 28, 2017 11:40:01 GMT -5
Can someone explain why Bocelli got no credit and Beyonce remained? I thought the rule was "majority of the points" and I doubt perfect duet had 51% of the song's points, right? Wouldn't it had been or featuring Beyonce or Andrea Bocelli? Apparently a version has to achieve 51% of the chart points for the guest artist to initially get credit. The Beyoncé version did that in its first week, the Bocelli version did not. Once a guest artist has been given credit, they continue to receive credit even if that version stops being the main point getter. So, Beyoncé will continue to receive credit even if that duet version gets 0 chart points. Bocelli, meanwhile, will never get a credit at this point as that version isn't likely to ever get over 50% of the chart points. I think that's a ridiculous rule, but apparently it is the rule. |
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Post by Au$tin on Dec 28, 2017 17:38:56 GMT -5
Can someone explain why Bocelli got no credit and Beyonce remained? I thought the rule was "majority of the points" and I doubt perfect duet had 51% of the song's points, right? Wouldn't it had been or featuring Beyonce or Andrea Bocelli? Apparently a version has to achieve 51% of the chart points for the guest artist to initially get credit. The Beyoncé version did that in its first week, the Bocelli version did not. Once a guest artist has been given credit, they continue to receive credit even if that version stops being the main point getter. So, Beyoncé will continue to receive credit even if that duet version gets 0 chart points. Bocelli, meanwhile, will never get a credit at this point as that version isn't likely to ever get over 50% of the chart points. I think that's a ridiculous rule, but apparently it is the rule. Then how did Britney Spears lose her credit on "S&M" after only one week? |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 28, 2017 17:56:15 GMT -5
^As I have mentioned, they have guidelines more than strict rules, that can be disregarded arbitrarily without an explanation. One example is the 20 week Hot 100 recurrent rule by which a song would go recurrent if it weren't in the top 50. While they have made exceptions to songs if a song has a bullet even if under the top 50 and losing positions, there have been a few cases in which they have allowed a song to continue to charting without the bullet.
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Post by Fancy on Dec 28, 2017 20:14:18 GMT -5
Apparently a version has to achieve 51% of the chart points for the guest artist to initially get credit. The Beyoncé version did that in its first week, the Bocelli version did not. Once a guest artist has been given credit, they continue to receive credit even if that version stops being the main point getter. So, Beyoncé will continue to receive credit even if that duet version gets 0 chart points. Bocelli, meanwhile, will never get a credit at this point as that version isn't likely to ever get over 50% of the chart points. I think that's a ridiculous rule, but apparently it is the rule. Then how did Britney Spears lose her credit on "S&M" after only one week? this has been mentioned before, but billboard has retroactively given her credit on weeks following the remix. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 28, 2017 20:30:12 GMT -5
I figured out what's wrong with the refreshed Billboard charts. It seems that all charts before June 10, 2017 have been blanked out. For that reason, for example, Shape of You shows a peak of #4 in the Hot 100 and you search for any date before that date in any chart, no chart is found.  |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 28, 2017 20:46:12 GMT -5
^Yeah. At least they finally fixed the date issue in Billboard Biz charts, but in Hot 100 Recurrents, the top 2, which debuted and have 1 week charted each, they appear as re-entries, plus no more charts appear to be available with other dates. Big time mess in both sites.
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Post by Libra on Dec 28, 2017 21:42:13 GMT -5
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 28, 2017 22:10:34 GMT -5
^I've already put Billboard on notice, since I commented what I found in the Disqus section. Let's see how long it takes them to fix all that ...
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Dec 28, 2017 22:59:10 GMT -5
1/3/18 Billboard Hot 100
TW LW 2W WOC Title Artist Imprint | label
1 1 1 17 Perfect - Ed Sheeran Duet With Beyonce - Atlantic
2 2 2 14 Rockstar - Post Malone Featuring 21 Savage - Republic
3 3 3 19 Havana - Camila Cabello Featuring Young Thug - SYCO | Epic
4 4 4 15 Gucci Gang - Lil Pump - Lyfetime/Tha Lights Global | Warner Bros.
5 10 7 15 No Limit - G-Eazy Featuring A$AP Rocky & Cardi B - G-Eazy/RVG/BPG | RCA
6 5 5 34 Thunder - Imagine Dragons - KIDinaKORNER | Interscope
7 6 15 8 MotorSport - Migos, Nicki Minaj & Cardi B - Quality Control/Motown | Capitol
8 7 6 15 Too Good At Goodbyes - Sam Smith - Capitol
9 9 11 23 All I Want For Christmas Is You - Mariah Carey - Columbia | Legacy
10 8 8 16 Bad At Love - Halsey - Astralwerks | Capitol
11 Hot Shot Debut 1 River - Eminem Featuring Ed Sheeran - Web/Shady/Aftermath | Interscope
12 11 9 25 Bodak Yellow (Money Moves) - Cardi B - The KSR Group | Atlantic
13 14 17 21 New Rules - Dua Lipa - Warner Bros.
14 12 13 6 Gummo - 6ix9ine - Scumgang
15 26 21 3 Him & I - G-Eazy & Halsey - G-Eazy/RVG/BPG | RCA
16 19 23 13 I Fall Apart - Post Malone - Republic
17 13 10 17 What Lovers Do - Maroon 5 Featuring SZA - 222 | Interscope
18 16 22 10 Let You Down - NF - NF Real Music | Caroline/Capitol
19 15 14 18 I Get The Bag - Gucci Mane Featuring Migos - Guwop | Atlantic
20 17 12 27 Feel It Still - Portugal. The Man - Atlantic
21 18 16 24 Sorry Not Sorry - Demi Lovato - Hollywood/Safehouse/Island | Republic
22 25 27 26 Love. - Kendrick Lamar Featuring Zacari - Top Dawg/Aftermath | Interscope
23 21 20 9 Wolves - Selena Gomez X Marshmello - Interscope
24 23 25 50 Shape Of You - Ed Sheeran - Atlantic
25 20 18 25 Mi Gente - J Balvin & Willy William Featuring Beyonce - Scorpio/Capitol Latin/Parkwood/Republic | Sony Music Latin/UMLE/Columbia
26 46 41 13 Plain Jane - A$AP Ferg - A$AP Worldwide/Polo Grounds | RCA
27 24 29 17 The Way Life Goes - Lil Uzi Vert Featuring Nicki Minaj - Generation Now | Atlantic
28 28 31 9 Meant To Be - Bebe Rexha & Florida Georgia Line - Warner Bros. | BMLG
29 39 38 21 The Weekend - SZA - Top Dawg | RCA
30 34 37 21 Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree - Brenda Lee - Decca/MCA Nashville | UMe
31 29 26 11 How Long - Charlie Puth - OTTO | Atlantic
32 35 45 4 It's The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year - Andy Williams - Columbia | Legacy
33 32 28 23 Young Dumb & Broke - Khalid - Right Hand | RCA
34 22 19 34 1-800-273-8255 - Logic Featuring Alessia Cara & Khalid - Visionary | Def Jam
35 27 24 24 Bank Account - 21 Savage - Slaughter Gang | Epic
36 31 32 49 Despacito - Luis Fonsi & Daddy Yankee Featuring Justin Bieber - Universal Music Latino/Raymond Braun/SchoolBoy/Def Jam | UMLE/Republic
37 38 42 11 The Christmas Song (Merry Christmas To You) - Nat King Cole - Capitol | UMe
38 41 47 4 A Holly Jolly Christmas - Burl Ives - Decca/MCA Special Products/Geffen | UMe
39 30 33 19 Silence - Marshmello Featuring Khalid - Joytime Collective | RCA
40 33 30 46 Believer - Imagine Dragons - KIDinaKORNER | Interscope
41 36 35 13 Sky Walker - Miguel Featuring Travis Scott - ByStorm | RCA
42 49 39 5 End Game - Taylor Swift Featuring Ed Sheeran & Future - Big Machine | Republic
43 44 – 4 Last Christmas - Wham! - Columbia | Legacy
44 42 36 35 Attention - Charlie Puth - OTTO | Atlantic
45 45 44 8 Ric Flair Drip - Offset & Metro Boomin - Boominati/Quality Control/Motown/Slaughter Gang | Republic/Capitol/Epic
46 58 60 7 Lemon - N*E*R*D & Rihanna - N.E.R.D | Columbia
47 40 34 37 Unforgettable - French Montana Featuring Swae Lee - Ear Drummer/Coke Boys/Bad Boy | Interscope/Epic
48 43 40 49 That's What I Like - Bruno Mars - Atlantic
49 Re-Entry 2 Feliz Navidad - Jose Feliciano - RCA | Legacy
50 Re-Entry 20 Jingle Bell Rock - Bobby Helms - Decca/MCA Nashville | UMe
51 51 56 18 Roll In Peace - Kodak Black Featuring XXXTENTACION - Dollaz N Dealz | Atlantic
52 56 55 13 Let Me Go - Hailee Steinfeld & Alesso Featuring Florida Georgia Line & Watt - Republic
53 53 52 15 Pills And Automobiles - Chris Brown Featuring Yo Gotti, A Boogie Wit da Hoodie & Kodak Black - RCA
54 50 61 3 Kooda - 6ix9ine - Scumgang
55 55 48 7 Rubbin Off The Paint - YBN Nahmir - YBN | MMMG
56 54 62 13 Like I Loved You - Brett Young - BMLG
57 59 66 11 Lights Down Low - MAX Featuring gnash - DCD2/Crush Music | RED Associated Labels
58 62 59 9 Candy Paint - Post Malone - Artist Partners Group/Atlantic/Republic | RRP
59 37 43 16 ...Ready For It? - Taylor Swift - Big Machine | Republic
60 52 54 16 Greatest Love Story - LANCO - Arista Nashville
61 64 64 9 Good Old Days - Macklemore Featuring Kesha - Bendo | ADA/Warner Bros.
62 57 51 20 What About Us - P!nk - RCA
63 92 97 3 Marry Me - Thomas Rhett - Valory
64 63 58 4 Codeine Dreaming - Kodak Black Featuring Lil Wayne - Dollaz N Dealz | Atlantic
65 60 63 15 I'll Name The Dogs - Blake Shelton - Warner Bros. Nashville | WMN
66 66 67 10 Yours - Russell Dickerson - Triple Tigers
67 New 1 Tennessee Rain - Addison Agen - Republic
68 Re-Entry 19 The Race - Tay-K - 88 Classic
69 New 1 Wish I Didn't Love You - Chloe Kohanski - Republic
70 69 70 13 Round Here Buzz - Eric Church - EMI Nashville
71 77 – 2 My Dawg - Lil Baby - Quality Control
72 65 57 17 Light It Up - Luke Bryan - Capitol Nashville
73 81 53 4 Tell Me You Love Me - Demi Lovato - Hollywood/Safehouse/Island | Republic
74 76 73 6 Pick It Up - Famous Dex Featuring A$AP Rocky - Rich Forever | 300
75 75 75 5 Echame La Culpa - Luis Fonsi & Demi Lovato
- Safehouse/Island/Universal Music Latino | Republic/UMLE
76 70 72 18 Look What You Made Me Do - Taylor Swift - Big Machine | Republic
77 73 68 6 Betrayed - Lil Xan - Columbia
78 74 77 13 Losing Sleep - Chris Young - RCA Nashville
79 79 71 4 MIC Drop - BTS Featuring Desiigner - BigHit Entertainment
80 93 – 3 No Smoke - YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Never Broke Again
81 78 80 18 I Could Use A Love Song - Maren Morris - Columbia Nashville
82 Re-Entry 1 Ice Tray - Quavo & Lil Yachty -
83 83 84 9 You Broke Up With Me - Walker Hayes - Monument | Arista Nashville
84 New 1 I Pray - Red Marlow - Republic
85 84 76 6 Wanted You - NAV Featuring Lil Uzi Vert - XO | Republic
86 87 83 9 Mayores - Becky G Featuring Bad Bunny - Kemosabe/RCA | Sony Music Latin
87 Re-Entry 4 Walk On Water - Eminem Featuring Beyonce - Web/Shady/Aftermath | Interscope
88 85 78 15 Dusk Till Dawn - Zayn Featuring Sia - RCA
89 89 88 5 Written In The Sand - Old Dominion - RCA Nashville
90 Re-Entry 2 Home - Machine Gun Kelly, X Ambassadors & Bebe Rexha - Atlantic | Interscope/RRP
91 88 82 17 F**k Love - XXXTentacion Featuring Trippie Redd - Bad Vibes Forever | EMPIRE Recordings
92 New 1 Believe - Eminem - Web/Shady/Aftermath | Interscope
93 96 93 3 Juice - Yo Gotti - Cocaine Muzik | Epic
94 72 – 2 Dark Knight Dummo - Trippie Redd Featuring Travis Scott - EG
95 94 86 5 When We - Tank - R&B Money | Atlantic
96 95 98 3 Five More Minutes - Scotty McCreery - Triple Tigers
97 91 89 9 Too Much To Ask - Niall Horan - Neon Haze | Capitol
98 61 – 2 Never Be The Same - Camila Cabello - SYCO | Epic
99 97 91 5 All On Me - Devin Dawson - Atlantic | WEA
100 99 – 3 Legends - Kelsea Ballerini - Black River
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TakeMe
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Post by TakeMe on Dec 29, 2017 0:22:15 GMT -5
Anyone knows how Bartier Cardi will do next week on the hot 100?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2017 1:33:56 GMT -5
Anyone knows how Bartier Cardi will do next week on the hot 100? simmnfierzig stated that it could debut at around #30 |
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