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Post by fhas on Jan 10, 2018 9:36:27 GMT -5
If you remove the Duet, Perfect would still be #1. It's like what happened with Despacito. The remix/duet helped the original version. Perfect was #5 before the Beyoncé version ~20k points below rockstar. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 10, 2018 9:40:03 GMT -5
I’m not sure why people are so extra about needing Havana to go #1. It’s a B/B+ pop song by a nondescript singer. It’s not like it’s an “Into You” masterpiece being blocked. I think it's understandable that when any song is #2 for a long time people would want to see it get to #1. It's the same thing with a song that gets stuck at #11. It feels lame in a general sense, separate from whether or not you like the song. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Jan 10, 2018 9:47:03 GMT -5
If you remove the Duet, Perfect would still be #1. It's like what happened with Despacito. The remix/duet helped the original version. Perfect was #5 before the Beyoncé version ~20k points below rockstar. Unlike "Despacito," though, the main version is the one getting most of the chart points. The regular version would be #1 without the points from the Beyonce version. In the case of "Despacito," it was the remix that was getting the large majority of chart points. |
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Post by fhas on Jan 10, 2018 9:52:43 GMT -5
It's like what happened with Despacito. The remix/duet helped the original version. Perfect was #5 before the Beyoncé version ~20k points below rockstar. Unlike "Despacito," though, the main version is the one getting most of the chart points. The regular version would be #1 without the points from the Beyonce version. In the case of "Despacito," it was the remix that was getting the large majority of chart points. I'm not sure the original version of Perfect would've been #1 last week, for example. Perfect had a 10% lead over Havana. What I mean is: Billboard's rule is wrong. If any version of the song is getting points that are responsible for its peak position the alternative version's artist should be credited. It should be credited as Ed Sheeran & Beyoncé or Andrea Bocelli. |
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Post by badrobot on Jan 10, 2018 10:45:25 GMT -5
^I wonder if the credit for Perfect is at the request of the label?
There have certainly been instances where credits have been label-driven rather than being driven by the actual artists present on the record, such as Kesha being removed from billing on "Right Round" (apparently at her request) or Bebe Rexha being added on to "Hey Mama." Although in those cases it wasn't due to separate versions of the songs.
Frankly the more egregious credits over the years have pretty much all been driven by labels rather than Billboard, such as "Apologize" being billed as Timbaland featuring OneRepublic when it was really just a Timbaland remix of OneRepublic's song. Or all the weird cases of "producer artists" like Calvin Harris and Zedd who are sometimes listed as lead and sometimes listed as featured but it always seems like a political/marketing decision rather than any true reflection of creative ownership. Or cases where someone performs on a song and doesn't get credited at all, like Ina Wroldsen on "How Deep Is Your Love," who not only sang the track but co-wrote it too.
If you wanted to get super technical, it would be interesting if there was ever a version of the Hot 100 that was "recording"-specific as opposed to "song"-specific, kind of like the Digital Tracks vs. Digital Songs charts (I don't even know if Digital Tracks still exists though).
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Post by chartslovergermany on Jan 10, 2018 11:17:17 GMT -5
^damn i love how deep is your ❤️
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Post by Dylan :) on Jan 10, 2018 11:18:50 GMT -5
Ed and Bruno should team up on a song together. It would be this generation's "One Sweet Day" and break ALL the records. I think Ed, Bruno and Taylor on one song could sound amazing |
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Jan 10, 2018 14:30:53 GMT -5
Ed and Bruno should team up on a song together. It would be this generation's "One Sweet Day" and break ALL the records. I think Ed, Bruno and Taylor on one song could sound amazing new Taylor or old Taylor |
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Post by Dylan :) on Jan 10, 2018 14:31:45 GMT -5
I think Ed, Bruno and Taylor on one song could sound amazing new Taylor or old Taylor Any Taylor? I don't really see a difference between the two |
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Post by Choco on Jan 10, 2018 14:35:28 GMT -5
Old Taylor would probably do a ballad with Ed and Bruno a la When I Was Your Man. But she's dead apparently.
New Taylor would do something more 24K Magic.
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Post by thebops on Jan 10, 2018 18:30:24 GMT -5
It should be credited as Ed Sheeran & Beyoncé or Andrea Bocelli. I take the opposite approach. I think the version reflected for that particular week on Billboard should be the version that is contributing the most points. If that happens to fluctuate from week to week then so be it. It seems more accurate that way and better describes historically what was really happening during that chart period. |
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jan 10, 2018 21:49:33 GMT -5
1/13 Billboard Hot 100
TW LW 2W WOC Title Artist Imprint | label
1 1 1 19 Perfect - Ed Sheeran Duet With Beyonce - Atlantic
2 3 3 21 Havana - Camila Cabello Featuring Young Thug - SYCO | Epic
3 2 2 16 Rockstar - Post Malone Featuring 21 Savage - Republic
4 5 6 36 Thunder - Imagine Dragons - KIDinaKORNER | Interscope
5 4 5 17 No Limit - G-Eazy Featuring A$AP Rocky & Cardi B - G-Eazy/RVG/BPG | RCA
6 9 10 18 Bad At Love - Halsey - Astralwerks | Capitol
7 8 8 17 Too Good At Goodbyes - Sam Smith - Capitol
8 7 7 10 MotorSport - Migos, Nicki Minaj & Cardi B - Quality Control/Motown | Capitol
9 6 4 17 Gucci Gang - Lil Pump - Lyfetime/Tha Lights Global | Warner Bros.
10 10 12 27 Bodak Yellow (Money Moves) - Cardi B - The KSR Group | Atlantic
11 12 13 23 New Rules - Dua Lipa - Warner Bros.
12 23 20 29 Feel It Still - Portugal. The Man - Atlantic
13 19 24 52 Shape Of You - Ed Sheeran - Atlantic
14 11 22 28 Love. - Kendrick Lamar Featuring Zacari - Top Dawg/Aftermath | Interscope
15 20 21 26 Sorry Not Sorry - Demi Lovato - Hollywood/Safehouse/Island | Republic
16 25 40 48 Believer - Imagine Dragons - KIDinaKORNER | Interscope
17 24 15 5 Him & I - G-Eazy & Halsey - G-Eazy/RVG/BPG | RCA
18 17 18 12 Let You Down - NF - NF Real Music | Caroline/Capitol
19 14 – 2 Bartier Cardi - Cardi B Featuring 21 Savage - The KSR Group | Atlantic
20 15 14 8 Gummo - 6ix9ine - Scumgang
21 21 17 19 What Lovers Do - Maroon 5 Featuring SZA - 222 | Interscope
22 18 33 25 Young Dumb & Broke - Khalid - Right Hand | RCA
23 16 16 15 I Fall Apart - Post Malone - Republic
24 26 28 11 Meant To Be - Bebe Rexha & Florida Georgia Line - Warner Bros. | BMLG
25 30 36 51 Despacito - Luis Fonsi & Daddy Yankee Featuring Justin Bieber - Universal Music Latino/Raymond Braun/SchoolBoy/Def Jam | UMLE/Republic
26 22 19 20 I Get The Bag - Gucci Mane Featuring Migos - Guwop | Atlantic
27 27 31 13 How Long - Charlie Puth - OTTO | Atlantic
28 29 23 11 Wolves - Selena Gomez X Marshmello - Interscope
29 28 35 26 Bank Account - 21 Savage - Slaughter Gang | Epic
30 32 25 27 Mi Gente - J Balvin & Willy William Featuring Beyonce - Scorpio/Capitol Latin/Republic/Parkwood | UMLE/Columbia
31 31 26 15 Plain Jane - A$AP Ferg - A$AP Worldwide/Polo Grounds | RCA
32 37 48 51 That's What I Like - Bruno Mars - Atlantic
33 34 34 36 1-800-273-8255 - Logic Featuring Alessia Cara & Khalid - Visionary | Def Jam
34 39 44 37 Attention - Charlie Puth - OTTO | Atlantic
35 Hot Shot Debut 1 Finesse - Bruno Mars & Cardi B - Atlantic
36 35 27 19 The Way Life Goes - Lil Uzi Vert Featuring Nicki Minaj - Generation Now | Atlantic
37 33 29 23 The Weekend - SZA - Top Dawg | RCA
38 41 41 15 Sky Walker - Miguel Featuring Travis Scott - ByStorm | RCA
39 40 42 7 End Game - Taylor Swift Featuring Ed Sheeran & Future - Big Machine | Republic
40 55 52 15 Let Me Go - Hailee Steinfeld & Alesso Featuring Florida Georgia Line & Watt - Republic
41 44 39 21 Silence - Marshmello Featuring Khalid - Joytime Collective | RCA
42 47 47 39 Unforgettable - French Montana Featuring Swae Lee - Ear Drummer/Coke Boys/Bad Boy | Interscope/Epic
43 48 62 22 What About Us - P!nk - RCA
44 45 63 5 Marry Me - Thomas Rhett - Valory
45 43 11 3 River - Eminem Featuring Ed Sheeran - Web/Shady/Aftermath | Interscope
46 56 56 15 Like I Loved You - Brett Young - BMLG
47 51 51 20 Roll In Peace - Kodak Black Featuring XXXTENTACION - Dollaz N Dealz | Atlantic
48 49 46 9 Lemon - N*E*R*D & Rihanna - N.E.R.D/i am OTHER | Columbia
49 53 45 10 Ric Flair Drip - Offset & Metro Boomin - Boominati/Quality Control/Motown/Slaughter Gang | Republic/Capitol/Epic
50 54 57 13 Lights Down Low - MAX Featuring gnash - DCD2/Crush Music | RED Associated Labels
51 57 53 17 Pills And Automobiles - Chris Brown Featuring Yo Gotti, A Boogie Wit da Hoodie & Kodak Black - RCA
52 62 66 12 Yours - Russell Dickerson - Triple Tigers
53 58 60 18 Greatest Love Story - LANCO - Arista Nashville
54 60 61 11 Good Old Days - Macklemore Featuring Kesha - Bendo | ADA/Warner Bros.
55 66 76 20 Look What You Made Me Do - Taylor Swift - Big Machine | Republic
56 63 65 17 I'll Name The Dogs - Blake Shelton - Warner Bros. Nashville | WMN
57 72 70 15 Round Here Buzz - Eric Church - EMI Nashville
58 61 59 18 ...Ready For It? - Taylor Swift - Big Machine | Republic
59 50 58 11 Candy Paint - Post Malone - Artist Partners Group/Atlantic/Republic | RRP
60 59 55 9 Rubbin Off The Paint - YBN Nahmir - YBN | MMMG
61 52 – 2 La Modelo - Ozuna x Cardi B - VP Entertainment | Sony Music Latin
62 81 81 20 I Could Use A Love Song - Maren Morris - Columbia Nashville
63 76 78 15 Losing Sleep - Chris Young - RCA Nashville
64 74 75 7 Echame La Culpa - Luis Fonsi & Demi Lovato - Safehouse/Island/Universal Music Latino | Republic/UMLE
65 70 64 6 Codeine Dreaming - Kodak Black Featuring Lil Wayne - Dollaz N Dealz | Atlantic
66 82 79 6 MIC Drop - BTS Featuring Desiigner - BigHit Entertainment
67 79 83 11 You Broke Up With Me - Walker Hayes - Monument | Arista Nashville
68 67 54 5 Kooda - 6ix9ine - Scumgang
69 73 72 19 Light It Up - Luke Bryan - Capitol Nashville
70 86 89 7 Written In The Sand - Old Dominion - RCA Nashville
71 Re-Entry 3 Never Be The Same - Camila Cabello - SYCO | Epic
72 78 73 6 Tell Me You Love Me - Demi Lovato - Hollywood/Safehouse/Island | Republic
73 77 80 5 No Smoke - YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Never Broke Again
74 80 82 3 Ice Tray - Quavo & Lil Yachty - Quality Control/Motown | Capitol
75 88 – 4 Krippy Kush - Farruko, Nicki Minaj, Bad Bunny, 21 Savage & Rvssian - Carbon Fiber | Sony Music Latin
76 75 77 8 Betrayed - Lil Xan - Columbia
77 85 74 8 Pick It Up - Famous Dex Featuring A$AP Rocky - Rich Forever | 300
78 89 96 5 Five More Minutes - Scotty McCreery - Triple Tigers
79 97 100 5 Legends - Kelsea Ballerini - Black River
80 New 1 One Foot - WALK THE MOON - RCA
81 91 86 11 Mayores - Becky G Featuring Bad Bunny - Kemosabe/RCA | Sony Music Latin
82 Re-Entry 2 Heaven - Kane Brown - Zone 4 | RCA Nashville
83 New 1 This Is Me - Keala Settle & The Greatest Showman Ensemble - Fox/20th Century Fox | Atlantic
84 84 71 4 My Dawg - Lil Baby - Quality Control
85 New 1 Rewrite The Stars - Zac Efron & Zendaya - Fox/20th Century Fox | Atlantic
86 98 97 11 Too Much To Ask - Niall Horan - Neon Haze | Capitol
87 Re-Entry 6 All On Me - Devin Dawson - Atlantic | WEA
88 New 1 Never Enough - Loren Allred - Fox/20th Century Fox | Atlantic
89 94 – 2 Stir Fry - Migos - Quality Control/Motown | Capitol
90 100 93 5 Juice - Yo Gotti - Cocaine Muzik | Epic
91 Re-Entry 6 Broken Halos - Chris Stapleton - Mercury Nashville
92 New 1 Corazon - Maluma X Nego do Borel - Sony Music Latin
93 Re-Entry 2 Female - Keith Urban - Hit Red | Capitol Nashville
94 99 88 17 Dusk Till Dawn - Zayn Featuring Sia - RCA
95 New 1 The Greatest Show - Hugh Jackman, Keala Settle, Zac Efron, Zendaya & The Greatest Showman Ensemble - Fox/20th Century Fox | Atlantic
96 Re-Entry 6 When We - Tank - R&B Money | Atlantic
97 Re-Entry 7 Wanted You - NAV Featuring Lil Uzi Vert - XO | Republic
98 96 91 19 F**k Love - XXXTentacion Featuring Trippie Redd - Bad Vibes Forever | EMPIRE Recordings
99 95 90 4 Home - Machine Gun Kelly, X Ambassadors & Bebe Rexha - Netflix/Atlantic | Interscope/RRP
100 New 1 Best Friend - Sofi Tukker Featuring NERVO, The Knocks & Alisa Ueno - Ultra
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Jan 10, 2018 22:27:00 GMT -5
Is “Shape of You”’s rebound owed to EOY countdowns? Insane to see it at #13 at the one-year mark.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jan 10, 2018 22:30:58 GMT -5
^Yes and it was discounted on iTunes.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 11, 2018 7:52:18 GMT -5
^It also rebounded 36-23 in Streaming Songs.
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Post by Au$tin on Jan 11, 2018 13:56:14 GMT -5
^It also rebounded 36-23 in Streaming Songs. Big thanks to the year end playlists on Spotify and YouTube. |
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Post by forg on Jan 11, 2018 19:32:19 GMT -5
Nice to see What About Us rise, 22 weeks is good chart run (unless it still manages to stay in the top 50 but I kinda doube it)
And well at least Look What You Made Me Do made it 20 weeks
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