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Post by Mylo13 π on Jan 16, 2018 2:00:58 GMT -5
I know y'all confused as to who but I just ask if Milo was watcher and he watched me and as he says knows Im scum. Why earlier today on d2 in greentoo still his biggest suspicion. " I think greentoo is my biggest suspicion still, but I want people to consider Coco more, especially after their behavior changed from jokey to calmly unhelpful. Surf and cynthia get town leans, Libra gets a strong town lean and Sam gets a very slight town lean. Have fun reading this y'all! Because it would be too strong of a 180 to say you are immediately my most suspicious. Any self-respecting mafia player would immediately get the hint, and considering you should be one of them, you'd have gotten it to.
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Post by Mylo13 π on Jan 16, 2018 2:03:25 GMT -5
Listen, Coco, I know it sucks that you get out by invest, it happened to me last game. I was really considering a huge post about how greentoo didn't understand the game, and I was the doctor, and bringing tons of evidence, but I ultimately knew it was pitiful. Unless someone else claims watcher (and you didn't for some reason), that means I am confirmed town.
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Post by Mylo13 π on Jan 16, 2018 2:13:22 GMT -5
WAIT WAIT A SECOND, I distictnly remember Coco posting something that said "I think greentoo is giving me useless town vibes, I dunno why." but now I can't find it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 2:35:56 GMT -5
I know that is not possible and I knew you were being deceptive from the start. Very quick to out yourself as a town watcher to draw the town watcher to out themselves after Surfs report. Very convenient. Now things make sense. You could have easily defended yourself before that rather scummy claim. You're are not town watcher . If I was watching someone on the first night it would have been greentoo btw. Vote:myloninja13Coco, please don't. If there isn't a counter-claim, and you obviously aren't, then I am the town watcher. Don't go down with this, say some post about how we're all just haters and how you'll rebound in the next life or something. This is not going to work. IF NO-ONE ELSE CLAIMS TOWN WATCHER, I AM CONFIRMED TOWN WATCHER. DOES ANYONE OBJECT?
Lol girl what? You're doing the most.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 2:43:36 GMT -5
I said day 1 greentoo was giving me useless town vibes and of course I wanted to make sure because I wasn't happy that we were wrong on Barbie. The way you moved off the green vote to Barbie made me question him and you but I was most suspicious of him.
I think you're grasping for straws after surf outed you . I'm taking my ass to bed cause I have to be up early but I urge everyone to do due diligence.
So wait a minute. You want me to believe surf was watching albie, you were watching albie and mafia killed albie. Of course possible but seems highly unlikely.
Or maybe I was watching someone else and you're claiming my role right after you got exposed.
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Post by greentoo on Jan 16, 2018 3:01:49 GMT -5
Iβm gonna agree with Coco on this. Mylo has felt scummy from the start to me. Just something about the way he posts. But if Mylo is right and Coco is lying then sheβll be lynched tomorrow.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 10:48:48 GMT -5
It is now Day 2. Deadline has been set for 01/18/2018 at 11:59 PM EST
Day 2 Vote Count (001): It takes 4/7 Votes to lynch!
Coco [1]: Milo Milo [3]:Β Surf, Coco, greentoo
Not Voting: Cynthia, Libra, Sam
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Post by Sambalada on Jan 16, 2018 12:34:48 GMT -5
Errrmmmkay...
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Post by Sambalada on Jan 16, 2018 12:36:23 GMT -5
I think my suspicion fall to Milo for now but he's on L-1 already. I'm gonna wait for everyone to put their voice in.
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Post by surfy on Jan 16, 2018 13:59:20 GMT -5
I'm going to go ahead and Unvote: Mylo for now, only because I want to see this play out. He hasn't fully ruled out suspicion because of how strange his wording was during his role claim (I'll make a post about that later, if I have the chance) but I feel like I need others' input!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 15:59:05 GMT -5
There is plenty of odd gameplay that Milo has done in general, especially if he is town watcher but if you guys go way back (and there isnt that many pages compared to most games) from the onset when people were talking about watchers and trackers milo has been to me anyways sniffing around for a power role, even "clocking" me for saying everyone should follow their gut instincts and his reply that you shouldnt follow gut or first instinct on the surface didnt seem odd just wrong but now it seems to me as maybe sniffing out power roles? and his posts below and how he panicked seems to me like his only goal in claiming and FOSing me was to give himself and help mafia. then Jan 9, 2018 at 6:10am Myloninja13 said: For 2, things become more complicated, but bear with me. Let me provide a hypothetical example: Night 1: Person A is watcher and finds innocent from Person B Person C is tracker and finds no activity from Person D. From this one night, we can conclude that Person D can't have been the watch-immune mafia, if he performed the kill. Hello guys! I'm pumped and ready for my third game! I'll have a post in maybe ten minutes or more discussing my thoughts on the set-up, but for now I'll do an RVS vote just to get things started. and then ten minutes later ([pay attention to where he talks about doctors then and then uses that on his post last night After ten minutes of hard thinking, here's my thoughts: This is a basic set-up (Which obviously isn't a bad thing, the simplest of set-ups can make the best games) which will mean that there should be far more focus on people's actions and words than role involvements. In fact, there's only two ways that the special roles can effect the game: 1. Watcher/Tracker discovers a mafia member 2. Process of elimination. For 1, A watcher would have to correctly choose a player that got visited. From that, they'd find out if it were tracker or mafia by the person dying in the morning or someone else dying. If the said person died that night, there would be zero questions that the person is the tracker immune-mafia, who performed the kill. The tracker has to also correctly choose a player, and if it is the watcher-immune mafia and they perform the kill, they'll also immediately know that person is mafia. For 2, things become more complicated, but bear with me. Let me provide a hypothetical example: Night 1: Person A is watcher and finds innocent from Person B Person C is tracker and finds no activity from Person D. From this one night, we can conclude that Person D can't have been the watch-immune mafia, if he performed the kill. Night 2: Person A is watcher and finds innocent from Person D Person C is tracker and finds no activity from Person F From here, you know that person D both didn't kill twice in a row. Let's say that person E was tracker-immune, and he got lynched this turn. Night 3: Person A is watcher and finds innocent from Person F Person B is tracker and finds no activity from Person B From here, you know Person B can't be mafia. Etc. Okay, that was confusing. I even confused myself trying to sort that out. Here's some simple advice: If you are town watcher or tracker, and you claim with both mafia still in, you will almost certainly die that night. Because if you were watcher, mafia would simply kill you with the tracker-immune mafia. You won't tell your result because you're dead, and the tracker can't see any results. And it happens for tracker too, you'd be killed by the watch-immune mafia member. This is not to say you shouldn't claim, but you should be careful about it. If there are two mafia in, and you can't be sure one will die by lynching, then you will die by claiming if it's town. Anyway, overall I do really like this set-up. The lack of doctors mean one person should die every night, unless there's one mafia left and they think their best chance is not killing. and then last night he said this Listen, Coco, I know it sucks that you get out by invest, it happened to me last game. I was really considering a huge post about how greentoo didn't understand the game, and I was the doctor, and bringing tons of evidence, but I ultimately knew it was pitiful. Unless someone else claims watcher (and you didn't for some reason), that means I am confirmed town.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 16:14:17 GMT -5
i highlight that doctor bit between day 1 and day 2 to show he has been playing deceptively from the start and even after claiming his answers last night was deceptive.
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Post by greentoo on Jan 16, 2018 16:38:59 GMT -5
I think thereβs enough evidence to show that Mylo is mafia. We should just get him out as soon as possible.
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Post by Sambalada on Jan 16, 2018 16:43:26 GMT -5
I'm going to go ahead and Unvote: Mylo for now, only because I want to see this play out. He hasn't fully ruled out suspicion because of how strange his wording was during his role claim (I'll make a post about that later, if I have the chance) but I feel like I need others' input! i think Mylo's claim is too forced and desperate, maybe he is. Maybe he is desperate because he is the tracker. Maybe he is desperate because he is defending his role as a mafia.
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Post by Sambalada on Jan 16, 2018 16:46:16 GMT -5
But then again, if I were a tracker wanting to roleclaim, I wouldn't react that way. It's too "I SWEAR I AM THE TRACKER, PLEASE DON'T KILL ME" for me.
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Post by Mylo13 π on Jan 16, 2018 17:05:06 GMT -5
Wait, I'm getting suspicion here? Guys, if no-one else claims watcher, that confirms I am the town watcher. Please don't let mafia take this because we couldn't think through this more than once. I'm pretty sure that Coco and greentoo are the mafia team at this point, unless greentoo really doesn't understand the game AT ALL. Sam, consider this. If I am not the watcher, that means someone else is. Libra and @antigonerising are the only two people who haven't talked yet, but if both of them aren't watcher, that means I have to be watcher. If I was lying, the real watcher would claim. Also, can Libra and cynthia come back before mafia literally get away despite one being confirmed and the other being so obvious.
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Post by Mylo13 π on Jan 16, 2018 17:07:52 GMT -5
I think thereβs enough evidence to show that Mylo is mafia. We should just get him out as soon as possible. Listen, I understand that I might seem scummish. I could be the most awkward, off-putting, defensive, suspicious person in this game. But if no-one else is watcher, than I am. If someone else was watcher, they'd claim. It is like how last game you were very suspicious, off-putting, defensive and awkward, but you were the cop, so people put you as town.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 17:10:13 GMT -5
Wait, I'm getting suspicion here? Guys, if no-one else claims watcher, that confirms I am the town watcher. Please don't let mafia take this because we couldn't think through this more than once. I'm pretty sure that Coco and greentoo are the mafia team at this point, unless greentoo really doesn't understand the game AT ALL. Sam, consider this. If I am not the watcher, that means someone else is. Libra and @antigonerising are the only two people who haven't talked yet, but if both of them aren't watcher, that means I have to be watcher. If I was lying, the real watcher would claim.
Also, can Libra and cynthia come back before mafia literally get away despite one being confirmed and the other being so obvious. wait did you not read me say you claimed my role, you're holding on to a technicality. Everyone else understood that so im kinda surprised you didnt (not really)
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Post by Mylo13 π on Jan 16, 2018 17:11:48 GMT -5
Wait, I'm getting suspicion here? Guys, if no-one else claims watcher, that confirms I am the town watcher. Please don't let mafia take this because we couldn't think through this more than once. I'm pretty sure that Coco and greentoo are the mafia team at this point, unless greentoo really doesn't understand the game AT ALL. Sam, consider this. If I am not the watcher, that means someone else is. Libra and @antigonerising are the only two people who haven't talked yet, but if both of them aren't watcher, that means I have to be watcher. If I was lying, the real watcher would claim.
Also, can Libra and cynthia come back before mafia literally get away despite one being confirmed and the other being so obvious. wait did you not read me say you claimed my role, you're holding on to a technicality. Everyone else understood that so im kinda surprised you didnt (not really) Oh, sorry, I didn't get that. let me read back through.
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Post by Mylo13 π on Jan 16, 2018 17:20:45 GMT -5
I said day 1 greentoo was giving me useless town vibes and of course I wanted to make sure because I wasn't happy that we were wrong on Barbie. The way you moved off the green vote to Barbie made me question him and you but I was most suspicious of him. I think you're grasping for straws after surf outed you . I'm taking my ass to bed cause I have to be up early but I urge everyone to do due diligence. So wait a minute. You want me to believe surf was watching albie, you were watching albie and mafia killed albie. Of course possible but seems highly unlikely. Or maybe I was watching someone else and you're claiming my role right after you got exposed. So this is the post where you claimed. Where you don't say who you were watching, act confused and call something unlikely that really was my entire reasoning behind it. I watched Albie. I thought that mafia would be smart enough not to pick Libra, so I went for Albie. I even literally sent this message to green-room: I would like to Watch Albie (Albie) tonight.
To green room: I think maybe they'll think Libra is too obvious? i don't know, I feel like Albie is a good guess.
Sercies then sent me a message asking if I confirm that choice, and I said I locked in going for Albie. He then said (Paraphrased for rule #21) You decided to watch Albie and you found out that he was visited by Coco!If you need more proof that I'm watcher, go ahead. But if you also notice something else: I wasn't that suspicious of Coco until Day 2. Before then, he was a town lean. Then, he immeditely got my vote. Why would I have changed so suddenly if I was mafia? That would have brought unneeded suspicious, and I couldn't have known that Coco was watcher.
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Post by greentoo on Jan 16, 2018 17:21:31 GMT -5
Lol Mylo got lucky being mafia two games in a row. Even after Coco came out as the power role you continued to say you were. Iβm gonna look back and see who was sticking up for Mylo at the beginning to see who his partner was.
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Post by greentoo on Jan 16, 2018 17:22:56 GMT -5
Sorry just read Myloβs last post. I donβt know who to believe now.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 17:28:42 GMT -5
Typing out that fictitious pm is the most desperate ploy yet. Any one of us can type that. You're going down swinging bravo on effort.
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Post by Mylo13 π on Jan 16, 2018 17:28:56 GMT -5
If you guys ultimately decide to lynch me, the numbers are thankfully in towns number. Once I'm dead and then Surf at night, There will be:
Coco (confirmed maf), Greentoo (most likely maf) and Cynthia, Libra and Sam (all have maybe 1% chance of being maf). From that, you know coco is lying. You lynch him that day, and Greentoo kills another that night. That leaves Greentoo and two town players. From there, lynch greentoo and game over.
IF I AM LYNCHED, AND I AM INDEED TOWN WATCHER, THAT MEANS COCO IS MAFIA. YOU NEED TO LYNCH HIM DAY 3 THEN.
Actually, that would bring a town win quicker...
Okay, you know what? I'm going to:
Vote: Myloninja13
ONCE I AM LYNCHED, AND PROVEN TO BE TOWN WATCHER, YOU MUST KILL COCO DAY 3. NO "WHAT IF'S". I ALSO VERY STRONGLY BELIEVE GREENTOO IS MAFIA. YOU GUYS CAN DECIDE IF YOU WANT, BUT I'D SUGGEST KILLING HIM DAY 4.
So game over Coco. I'm going to go out the explosive way, and you can slowly be weeded out. Bye!
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Post by Mylo13 π on Jan 16, 2018 17:30:21 GMT -5
Typing out that fictitious pm is the most desperate ploy yet. Any one of us can type that. You're going down swinging bravo on effort. Sure. At least I'll go out knowing you'll be dead the next day
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Post by Mylo13 π on Jan 16, 2018 17:31:37 GMT -5
Wait, I need another vote. Can Sam or Surf come back here?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 17:31:46 GMT -5
Milo you make seem like your suspicion on me day 2 was different on day 1. On both days you questioned me on my style of posting and you threw shade. You literally threw green under the bus on day 2 by saying he was most suspicious.
And you still haven't answered the whole doctor bit instead you create a even bigger elaborate cover up. Its not adding up and I know players here are smarter than that.
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Post by Mylo13 π on Jan 16, 2018 17:34:17 GMT -5
Milo you make seem like your suspicion on me day 2 was different on day 1. On both days you questioned me on my style of posting and you threw shade. You literally threw green under the bus on day 2 by saying he was most suspicious. And you still haven't answered the whole doctor bit instead you create a even bigger elaborate cover up. Its not adding up and I know players here are smarter than that. Nope Nope Nope and Nope. Day 1 was very clearly "Town lean". I threw "Shade" over grammar and editing. Day 2 was "mafia lean". I threw "Shade" over you being, you know, Mafia. And the doctor bit was literally just appreciating the game. Sure, it seemed bad, but it was nice to see a game without doctor. Good job making it your reasoning against me.
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Post by surfy on Jan 16, 2018 17:34:49 GMT -5
I said day 1 greentoo was giving me useless town vibes and of course I wanted to make sure because I wasn't happy that we were wrong on Barbie. The way you moved off the green vote to Barbie made me question him and you but I was most suspicious of him. I think you're grasping for straws after surf outed you . I'm taking my ass to bed cause I have to be up early but I urge everyone to do due diligence. So wait a minute. You want me to believe surf was watching albie, you were watching albie and mafia killed albie. Of course possible but seems highly unlikely. Or maybe I was watching someone else and you're claiming my role right after you got exposed. So this is the post where you claimed. Where you don't say who you were watching, act confused and call something unlikely that really was my entire reasoning behind it. I watched Albie. I thought that mafia would be smart enough not to pick Libra, so I went for Albie. I even literally sent this message to green-room: I would like to Watch Albie (Albie ) tonight.
To green room: I think maybe they'll think Libra is too obvious? i don't know, I feel like Albie is a good guess.
Sercies then sent me a message asking if I confirm that choice, and I said I locked in going for Albie. He then said (Paraphrased for rule #21) You decided to watch Albie and you found out that he was visited by Coco!If you need more proof that I'm watcher, go ahead. But if you also notice something else: I wasn't that suspicious of Coco until Day 2. Before then, he was a town lean. Then, he immeditely got my vote. Why would I have changed so suddenly if I was mafia? That would have brought unneeded suspicious, and I couldn't have known that Coco was watcher. But that's not the format for our roles to submit choices in? Since you're such a stickler for the rules I figured you would've typed Track: Albie would you have not? I can confirm that the mod did ask us to confirm our selections though, so this adds some validity to your claim. Coco, I read the 'claim' you posted, was that really a claim? It seemed more like a probability/hypothesis. At this point we have to have concrete shit because if town doesn't get this right - shit will hit the fan. Also not a fan of how fast greentoo was to put Mylo at L-1, but considering I delivered the first blow, I can't critique that move too much. However; if Mylo is confirmed town or Coco is confirmed scum - he's the first one I'm going to be analyzing, and I advise you all to do the same. But we do know that one of either Mylo/Coco have to be scum at this point, and there appears to be validity behind Mylo's details about last night's actions, but the mod could have also asked scum players to confirm as well. We'll have to see how this plays out, but the Lynch tonight really does play out how the rest of the game will go. If we find a Mafia member in Mylo - I pretty much end up vanilla and we look for a potential partner. If Coco isn't lynched and Mylo is town watcher - we fucked up but we more likely know that Coco/Greentoo are the most likely pairing of scum.
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Post by greentoo on Jan 16, 2018 17:35:36 GMT -5
I literally donβt get what Iβve done to make myself seem so much like Mafia. If Mylo is telling the truth which seems more and more evident then Coco has to be lynched day 3. However, Mylo could just be voting for himself to get everyone else to vote for Coco instead. But then if we find out that Coco was actually town then Mylo would be lynched the next day. So either way Mylo and Coco are going out basically, unless people turn on me because Iβm βsuspiciousβ. All I know is the mafia team is:
Coco or Mylo + either Cynthia, Libra or Sam
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