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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Jan 16, 2018 17:36:51 GMT -5
So this is the post where you claimed. Where you don't say who you were watching, act confused and call something unlikely that really was my entire reasoning behind it. I watched Albie. I thought that mafia would be smart enough not to pick Libra, so I went for Albie. I even literally sent this message to green-room: I would like to Watch Albie (Albie ) tonight.
To green room: I think maybe they'll think Libra is too obvious? i don't know, I feel like Albie is a good guess.
Sercies then sent me a message asking if I confirm that choice, and I said I locked in going for Albie. He then said (Paraphrased for rule #21) You decided to watch Albie and you found out that he was visited by Coco!If you need more proof that I'm watcher, go ahead. But if you also notice something else: I wasn't that suspicious of Coco until Day 2. Before then, he was a town lean. Then, he immeditely got my vote. Why would I have changed so suddenly if I was mafia? That would have brought unneeded suspicious, and I couldn't have known that Coco was watcher. But that's not the format for our roles to submit choices in? Since you're such a stickler for the rules I figured you would've typed Track: Albie would you have not? I can confirm that the mod did ask us to confirm our selections though, so this adds some validity to your claim. Coco, I read the 'claim' you posted, was that really a claim? It seemed more like a probability/hypothesis. At this point we have to have concrete s**t because if town doesn't get this right - s**t will hit the fan. Also not a fan of how fast greentoo was to put Mylo at L-1, but considering I delivered the first blow, I can't critique that move too much. However; if Mylo is confirmed town or Coco is confirmed scum - he's the first one I'm going to be analyzing, and I advise you all to do the same. But we do know that one of either Mylo/Coco have to be scum at this point, and there appears to be validity behind Mylo's details about last night's actions, but the mod could have also asked scum players to confirm as well. We'll have to see how this plays out, but the Lynch tonight really does play out how the rest of the game will go. If we find a Mafia member in Mylo - I pretty much end up vanilla and we look for a potential partner. If Coco isn't lynched and Mylo is town watcher - we f**ked up but we more likely know that Coco/Greentoo are the most likely pairing of scum. Correct about havng to go Watch: Albie, and tbh I'm surprised Sercies didn't mention it. But do you like my lynch plan? Or nah?
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Post by surfy on Jan 16, 2018 17:37:41 GMT -5
Also, Mylo; if you are indeed Town Watcher, being a martyr does nothing for town, so take your vote off of yourself already.
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Jan 16, 2018 17:38:41 GMT -5
Also, Mylo; if you are indeed Town Watcher, being a martyr does nothing for town, so take your vote off of yourself already. Oh. Unvote: Myloninja13
Vote: Coco
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Jan 16, 2018 17:51:57 GMT -5
Oh, I'm a bit suspicious of Cynthia now. If it isn't Greentoo, I'd say it would be her as the second mafia.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 17:56:30 GMT -5
Also, Mylo; if you are indeed Town Watcher, being a martyr does nothing for town, so take your vote off of yourself already. Oh. Unvote: Myloninja13
Vote: CocoOh lol You voting yourself is a ploy you knew nobody would lynch you without hearing from the others But that desperate plea and the random oh is what people should pay more attention to than antics. At this point my advice dont listen to me or Milo. Read the thread and read through the bullshit and come to your own gut.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 21:34:59 GMT -5
Surfboardt and @mod can verify this but when I sent in my night action I was told all power roles were asked to confirm.
Also Milo went to great lengths to create that watcher story so I'm shocked that in all the years I've played when has an actual town watcher or town tracker went to the length of posting pms conversation but I think if you're going that far you would at least get the format right like you pointed out. Considering on D1 Miko checked me for editing a post The fact that there's no doctor also kind of makes being an accepting 'town' figure kind of dangerous. There is always the watcher, but they have far more chance of missing it than correctly getting the killer. Especially now that I realise that trackers and watchers also show up in scans.
Also, Coco kinda needs to read the rules lol. He edited post #19, which breaks rule #3. It wasn't a post necessarily about Mafia, but still. Rules are rules, even to Coco :sip2:
Also the inconsistent way he has played this game is not limited to that, it's also in his role claim, his saying there are no doctors and then saying "I was going to have a report and claim doctor" last night. How he is jumping from me to green to cynthia to Barbie all over the map. I hope you guys can see he is playing y'all. Trying to get a town watcher lynched and also redirect y'all's attention to lynch someone else next day shift.
Milo has been overly confident since the start , shading and reading and imo he started early in rsv distancing himself from mafia and playing different than last time. Few times he has said this and left crumbs
Vote: Myloninja13 because he was scum last game[/b] deflection
Because greentoo is far too close to lynch, but if needed I'll happily through a vote his way leading bandwagon without getting hands totally dirty
IF YOU CHANGE YOUR VOTE TO GREENTOO, HE WILL BE LYNCHED. GREENTOO, PLEASE PROVE ME WRONG. WHO IS SUSPICIOUS TO YOU? WHY SHOULD YOU STAY IN THE GAME?
Kept him at l4 and few hours later Anyway, I'm going to Unvote: Greentoo because it was a bit rash of me to put a player at L-1 already, especially when a significant portion of people defend said person. That being said, if it gets close to end of day and no other person has a significant lynch possibility that I support, I'll throw a vote his way in a heartbeat. With Backwoods at L-1, I will vote her if necessary For Backwoods, I wouldn't know either way. The people who have gone for her the hardest seem like the more established players, which of course means it is more hard to read their play. It'd kinda suck for both Greentoo or Backwoods if they got lynched now. Are they both sleeping? Backwoods said she was at least, and greentoo lives in the UK Okay, so I guess I'll do it.
I'm very sorry Backwoods, especially the fact you couldn't defend yourself AGAIN, but I think we need the lynch, and I'll admit that on second glance I've been getting some suspicion of the suspicion thrown your way.
Vote: BackwoodsBarbie
Night 1, here we come!
Oh wait, I reread that Albie was planning on doing it. Whoops... Sorry Albie.
I'm pointing all of this out to show he has been playing when you isolate his posts. Back and forth withing s few posts and always leading a kill or wagon but distancing himself at same time.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 21:36:12 GMT -5
@mod since I can't edit!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 22:28:57 GMT -5
#mod: what
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Jan 16, 2018 22:56:04 GMT -5
Okay guys, I've been thinking for a change.Here's all of our options.Lynch Myloninja13Lynch CocoNo Lynch.The outcome for all of these options:Myloninja13 lynch. Reveal that he was, in fact, town watcher. Surf gets killed at night. That leaves two mafia and three town. Coco is confirmed mafia, and gets lynched. At night, one person is killed, probably whoever is least suspicious. Final 1 vs. 2 challenge. Most likely greentoo is mafia, but it could be any of them. Final result: Maybe 75% chance of town win.
Coco Lynch. Reveal that he was, in fact, the tracker immune mafia member. At night, they'd kill Surf. In the next day, they'd most likely lynch greentoo, but we'd discuss it before than. If we do mislynch, we then get a Myloninja13 kill and we're left with a Final 1 vs. 2 challenge. From there, town should be able to win on information. Final result: Maybe 90% chance of town win.
No Lynch. At night, Surf is killed by the watch immune mafia member (Because then Coco could still claim watcher), and we'd have the exact same problem as now, but with one less confirmed town member. From there, we again choose one of the options. However, all options have less chance of winning now. Final result: Completely depends on the next option, but less than 50% chance of town win.
SO WE CAN NOT NO LYNCH. IT IS THE WORST OPTION, IT GIVES US NO NEW INFORMATION, AND IT WILL GIVE MAFIA A HIGHER CHANCE OF WINNING THAN A TOWN WATCHER LYNCH. PLEASE VOTE.
Note: This applies to Coco's story as well. If I was a mafia member, killing him would out me and leave town with 1 vs. 2. And killing me would out me and Surf would be killed that night.
Also, Libra and @antigonerising need to get here right now.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 23:02:23 GMT -5
Can mods verify that all power roles were asked to confirm or is that not allowed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 23:08:09 GMT -5
Milko there is only two options. You damn well know there will be a lynch . The no lynch option is impossible nobody here is that dumb I hope.
I hope we hear more from everyone else because outside of us it's way too quiet for a pivotal moment in the game. I wont be changing my font and screaming either to get my point across!
It's going to come down to town making a choice but hopefully based on reading the thread instead of a desperate attempt after being exposed.
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Jan 16, 2018 23:12:26 GMT -5
Pretty much all of Day 2 has been Coco vs. bolded font lol.
The reason no lynch was a possible option is because Cynthia and Libra haven't arrived, and I'm past voting myself, so Surf green and Sam would have to reach on opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 23:16:43 GMT -5
Pretty much all of Day 2 has been Coco vs. bolded font lol. The reason no lynch was a possible option is because Cynthia and Libra haven't arrived, and I'm past voting myself, so Surf green and Sam would have to reach on opinion. My bolded font >> your burning edges lol But in all seriousness libra and Cynthia get yo ever loving asses back here and bring some sanity here. I get it y'all. Two people, same story. However if you read from the front to that back and pay attention to that claim I think we will make the right choice.
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Post by greentoo on Jan 17, 2018 2:36:02 GMT -5
I really don’t know who to believe. But I’m more concerned with the fact that no one else is here except us three. Can someone just say something or vote. Also, Mylo please stop acting as if I’m like 90% mafia because I’m not and if you wanted town to win then it’s be better to leave options open in your lynch plans.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 9:09:36 GMT -5
#mod: Libra and @antigonerising have been prodded.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 12:06:01 GMT -5
I'm present atm but I have a lot to read be (sorta) right back
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 12:15:31 GMT -5
ok so I'm not through reading yet but "If no one else counterclaims I'm watcher" seems very...odd. And what if someone else DID claim watcher? would you suddenly cave and admit 'ok I'm not the watcher, I just wanted to see who would claim?"
earlier yesterday (or day before I can no longer recall) mylo made a comment that was more or less was a vanilla claim, something about hoping the watcher and tracker got a result. It stuck out to me immediately because why would you confirm your non-power status to mafia (essentially helping them narrow down the pool of potential town power players) on D2 like that? that is a really shitty move at best. tbh I didn't really have time to come in the thread and be active so I made a note of it in my role PM to revisit later.
Having an actual visit claim to go along with your role claim is certainly intriguing but even with that, I feel hesitant because much of your (mylo's) play right now screams fishing, like you're trying to sniff out the power roles the best way you know how.
vote: myloninja13 for the moment but obviously I'm not finished reading so I'll return to doing that and maybe by the time I'm through you will have said something to convince me I'm wrong.
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Post by Sambalada on Jan 17, 2018 12:18:58 GMT -5
I see myloninja's claim as a claim now, and not a way to fish the real tracker out.
So Vote: Coco for that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 12:30:13 GMT -5
There really isn't much to say about Albie's NK, pretty predictable I'd say, but I'm holding hope that the watcher or tracker got a reading. A mislynch here wouldn't be the end of the game, but it makes it 2 mafia vs. 3 town. Unfortunately, almost no-one felt anything other than "town lean" on Albie, which makes his game harder to look at. ok this is the post I was talking about. Something about him attempting to track the math on town balance*, combined with the blatant 'i'm vanilla you guys look for someone else!' really rubbed me the wrong way. BUT with that being said, mylo also goes on to put a vote on Coco in the same post, and picks certain comments as reasons why he's not feeling her rn. It's also possible that he was purposely trying to misdirect so that mafia wouldn't target him. Still reading. Vote is not moving BUT don't take it to mean anything either.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 12:32:27 GMT -5
There really isn't much to say about Albie's NK, pretty predictable I'd say, but I'm holding hope that the watcher or tracker got a reading. A mislynch here wouldn't be the end of the game, but it makes it 2 mafia vs. 3 town. Unfortunately, almost no-one felt anything other than "town lean" on Albie, which makes his game harder to look at. ok this is the post I was talking about. Something about him attempting to track the math on town balance*, combined with the blatant 'i'm vanilla you guys look for someone else!' really rubbed me the wrong way. BUT with that being said, mylo also goes on to put a vote on Coco in the same post, and picks certain comments as reasons why he's not feeling her rn. It's also possible that he was purposely trying to misdirect so that mafia wouldn't target him. Still reading. Vote is not moving BUT don't take it to mean anything either. nvmd: I legit have no idea which one of them I believe right now (yes I'm giving mylo a ton of potential credit for crafting such a careful misdirect) so unvote:myloninja13[/b] because it doesn't make sense to leave a vote on him when I'm that uncertain.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 12:32:47 GMT -5
unvote: myloninja13
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Post by greentoo on Jan 17, 2018 12:33:27 GMT -5
I see myloninja's claim as a claim now, and not a way to fish the real tracker out. So Vote: Coco for that. Why are you so sure that he’s claiming?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 12:38:43 GMT -5
HAI everyone! I have info that will either blow this game wide open or destroy me and town in the process so I have to be careful! So I am going to claim right now, I am the Town Tracker, and since there’s only two mafia and the other is Tracker-immune. I either found the Town Watcher or Watcher-Immune Mafia last night visiting Albie - and that person was none other than Myloninja. So for reasons that I shouldn’t have to justify with the above Vote: Myloninja if he is lynched and confirmed scum, my role is now considered useless so I have nothing to lose! OHHHHHHHHHHH THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED wowowow ok (can you tell I'm reading backwards)
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Post by Sambalada on Jan 17, 2018 12:48:18 GMT -5
I see myloninja's claim as a claim now, and not a way to fish the real tracker out. So Vote: Coco for that. Why are you so sure that he’s claiming? His words don't seem to be made up. He is defensive because he knows he is useful for town and don't want town to mislynch him. At least that was what I get from his posts. However, there's a possibility that Coco is right. Both of their analysis seem to be legit and not made up. I'm standing on a shaky ground but I believe more on mylo, slightly
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 12:56:22 GMT -5
I know you guys giving him credit for that badly formatted pm lets not forget he didnt use the right format for his action but IMO after surfs report all he did was take his night action towards albie and changed it . however im not sure how his initial panic role claim isnt something that is odd.
Oh, damn, a double reveal.
I AM THE TOWN WATCHER.
HOWEVER, ALL IS NOT LOST. I ACTUALLY WATCHED ALBIE LAST NIGHT, AND SAW THAT COCO VISITED HIM. COCO IS CONFIRMED MAFIA NOW.
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Post by greentoo on Jan 17, 2018 13:01:29 GMT -5
I don’t know if it’s just the way he/she is but Coco seemed extremely excited at the start of the game. They got bored when nothing was happening and wanted something to happen, probably so they knew who to kill/investigate. I don’t know who to believe anymore but I’m still giving the edge to Coco.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 13:04:36 GMT -5
Even him putting a callous vote on himself is bluffing. Since Day 1 and reading his whole posts including him dropping casually a couple times how he played as mafia last time, has struck me reading back as distancing, bluffing. His gameplay was jarring and i nmentioned in D1 how he seems shady or for better word cocky. Also, Mylo; if you are indeed Town Watcher, being a martyr does nothing for town, so take your vote off of yourself already. Oh. Unvote: Myloninja13
Vote: CocoIm just saying at this point in the game and what transpired Milo had no choice, and i feel he ploy at the point was to go down and take a power role with him, since Surf claimed the other. I know whatever i say is going in one ear and out the other and that is why i keep linking his posts from earlier incase it was missed. See for yourselves, at this point if i was yall i wouldnt believe either player because technically we both had no choice. But atleast look into what has happened instead of being swayed by me one moment and then him the next and back and forth.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 13:07:12 GMT -5
and also comes the irony that albie was the target of tracker, mafia and watcher all at the same time. I know its possible but there was 8 players at that point. Milo reasoning was that mafia would know better than to target Libra??? why?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 13:27:14 GMT -5
Coco claimed and also said at one point "if i were were watcher I would have watched greentoo" which tells us who she is (claiming) to have watched, which to the rest of us might seem like an odd choice but makes total sense for Coco. She concluded so quickly that greentoo seemed like a 'useless townie' and picked her target that way. Not enough people agreed with her on that so he was a bad pick IMO, but the thought pattern is consistent.
Mylo was already putting suspicion on Coco when Surf claimed so it makes the most sense for him to stick with that and double down on it. However he's made SO many weird statements - still can't get over the 'glad there's not a doc this time around' on D1. Or saying he was ok with knocking off Barbie b/c she wasn't a power role (I get the logic, but why would you say it out loud like that). Having his vote on greentoo, but happily hopping over to hammer Barbie when I put her at L-1. It honestly felt like a scum player who just wanted to make something happen ASAP and didn't care who it was. If you suspected greentoo more why wouldn't you stay on greentoo as a show of your suspicion?
watching albie seems like a no-brainer but of course it's easy to claim that when Surf calls you out on it, so...also I am put off by his reasoning being that he thought mafia would be "smart enough" not to NK Libra. What makes avoiding Libra a "smart" decision for mafia? The correct answer to this is "albie was by far one of the most active/useful players on D1 and he lowkey was giving off power role teas so I thought he might be a likely target." Instead mylo makes it seem like albie was a second choice - doubtful - and he offers no real reason for Libra to be the obvious choice you think he was.
And in mylo's own words, if he wasn't the watcher the real watcher would claim. And Coco did counterclaim, immediately. It got missed b/c it was kind of a softclaim, but she definitely threw it right back at him.
idk idk and I might be fucking up here but I just gotta go with my instincts so vote: Myloninja13 and if I'm wrong then I'm so sorry to town for fucking this up. If I'm right I would suggest looking into Sam (only person thus far who has tried to take up for Mylo's claim a bit, so it sticks out) and Libra (mostly absent, but Mylo has consistently given him 'town' leans and above 'smart enough' comment is sketchy af) next. Libra over Sam tbh.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 14:13:08 GMT -5
It is now Day 2. Deadline has been set for 01/18/2018 at 11:59 PM EST
Day 2 Vote Count (002): It takes 4/7 Votes to lynch!
Coco [2]: Milo, Sam Milo [3]: Coco, greentoo, Cynthia
Not Voting: Libra, Surf
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