Billboard Hot 100: 1/27/2018

[jenglisbe]

Jan 18, 2018 14:13:29 GMT -5 DJ General said:

Jan 18, 2018 14:11:25 GMT -5 singingrulebritannia said:

Dreams: 3.57M
Zombie: 2.31M
Linger: 1.63M

This with their Top 10s on iTunes all week + streaming ... any chance of debut and/or re-entry on Hot 100?

Streaming better be solid. "The Champion" looks to barely make the top 50 of the Hot 100 with much better sales than those Cranberries songs, so they would have to make up for the sales gap with streaming.

[singingrulebritannia]

YouTube numbers for 1/15 are finally available
kworb.net/youtube/insights/us_daily.html

1 = Camila Cabello - Havana 3,248,246
4 -1 Ed Sheeran - Perfect Duet 1,980,386

9 NEW The Cranberries - Zombie 1,523,648
13 NEW The Cranberries - Linger 1,215,887
17 NEW The Cranberries - Dreams 1,025,160

[DJ General]

Is that good for cranberries? I’m so out of the hot 100 game lol

[jenglisbe]

Jan 18, 2018 15:53:15 GMT -5 singingrulebritannia said:

YouTube numbers for 1/15 are finally available
kworb.net/youtube/insights/us_daily.html

1 = Camila Cabello - Havana 3,248,246
4 -1 Ed Sheeran - Perfect Duet 1,980,386

9 NEW The Cranberries - Zombie 1,523,648
13 NEW The Cranberries - Linger 1,215,887
17 NEW The Cranberries - Dreams 1,025,160

Just the duet version of "Perfect" is getting that many views, or is that combining all versions?

[Au$tin]

Jan 18, 2018 15:58:42 GMT -5 DJ General said:

Is that good for cranberries? I’m so out of the hot 100 game lol

Remember that today is the last day for streaming and sales tracking, and yesterday and Tuesday will definitely hold the bulk of both of those, unfortunately. So the chances of them making the Hot 100 aren't very good right now. However, they'll probably secure a few entries in the recurrent chart.

Over on Spotify, "Zombie" fell to #163 while their other entries from yesterday fell out of the top 200 completely.

[inverse]

Jan 18, 2018 14:07:38 GMT -5 Fat Ass Kelly Price said:

Jan 18, 2018 9:56:20 GMT -5 jayhawk1117 said:

in no universe is Justin trash, maybe filthy ain't that good but let's not make things up now

He’s a mediocre actor. Good dancer. Average vocalist. Ok songwriter. He has a mediocre discography. All of his albums, save for FS/LS, are bloated and contains much filler. He’s overrated as a musician. His reputation supercedes his output and talent. And as a person, he’s trash.

Here's the thing. He doesn't have a mediocre discography, he has a pretty high amount of excellent songs, it's just most of them are being carried by the production which he didn't do. Like

Rock Your Body
LoveStoned
Carry Out
Not A Bad Thing
My Love
Like I Love You

all great songs, but all because of the production. The two songs that I think JT really elevates and actually bring something special to are Mirrors and the classic Cry Me A River which no matter what he says I'll still jam out to that song any day

[jenglisbe]

Jan 18, 2018 15:53:15 GMT -5 singingrulebritannia said:

YouTube numbers for 1/15 are finally available
kworb.net/youtube/insights/us_daily.html

1 = Camila Cabello - Havana 3,248,246
4 -1 Ed Sheeran - Perfect Duet 1,980,386

9 NEW The Cranberries - Zombie 1,523,648
13 NEW The Cranberries - Linger 1,215,887
17 NEW The Cranberries - Dreams 1,025,160

Spotify for 1/17 (from the top 200 so some remixes are not factored in here):
"Havana" - 1,049,483
"Perfect" - 930,466

[DJ General]

BILLBOARD.COM

The Cranberries' U.S. Music Streams Increase 2,934% After Dolores O'Riordan's Death

The group will likely see some of its songs return on next week’s charts (dated Jan. 27).

After less than one full day of tracking following the death of The Cranberries frontwoman Dolores O’Riordan on Monday, streaming totals for the group rose greatly.

On Jan. 15, The Cranberries’ music garnered 8.7 million total on-demand U.S. streams (audio and video combined), according to Nielsen Music, a 2,934 percent increase from the day before (Jan. 14).

Breaking that down, 3 million of that total were audio streams, a 1,805 percent increase from the day before; 5.7 million of that total were video streams, a 4,309 percent increase.

The Cranberries’ top five streaming songs (audio and video combined) on Jan. 15 following O’Riordan’s death were: “Zombie” (2 million), “Linger” (1.6 million), “Dreams” (1.3 million), “Ode to My Family” (554,000), and “When You’re Gone” (432,000).

On Tuesday, Billboard reported that The Cranberries’ top five selling songs on Jan. 15 were: “Linger” (10,000), “Zombie” (9,000), “Dreams” (8,000), “Ode to My Family” (2,000) and “When You’re Gone” (1,000).

[Mikeramp/KMR McLean]

Jan 18, 2018 8:05:00 GMT -5 Choco said:

Jan 18, 2018 0:26:43 GMT -5 85la said:

To all ya'll who are saying Justin is "trash", while Camila is supposed to be this unassailable queen: Who is the one who has released several multi-platinum albums, achieved multiple Grammy awards and nominations, five #1 singles, appeared in multiple critically aclaimed and Oscar winnning films?

FACK OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Also its crazy that the 2017 YE Top 3 might all be dropping out of the hot 100 in the same week, unless SOY somehow gains. (Despacito and TWIL would be at wk 53)

[Fat Ass Kelly Price]

Jan 18, 2018 16:30:53 GMT -5 inverse said:

Jan 18, 2018 14:07:38 GMT -5 Fat Ass Kelly Price said:

He’s a mediocre actor. Good dancer. Average vocalist. Ok songwriter. He has a mediocre discography. All of his albums, save for FS/LS, are bloated and contains much filler. He’s overrated as a musician. His reputation supercedes his output and talent. And as a person, he’s trash.

Here's the thing. He doesn't have a mediocre discography, he has a pretty high amount of excellent songs, it's just most of them are being carried by the production which he didn't do. Like

Rock Your Body
LoveStoned
Carry Out
Not A Bad Thing
My Love
Like I Love You

all great songs, but all because of the production. The two songs that I think JT really elevates and actually bring something special to are Mirrors and the classic Cry Me A River which no matter what he says I'll still jam out to that song any day

It’s mediocre. For every great song he has, he has two mediocre ones.

[renaboss]

Guys, why so much negativity? Do we really need to attack artists left and right? I'm new to these forums, but I feel like it wasn't like this when I joined, it's turning into the comments I see everyday on Billboard's FB posts. Can we just go back to "I love this song" or "I hate this song"?

[Au$tin]

The problem is is that the OP literally was just "I hate this song" and "I love this song," just written out in a different format and some stans lost their shit.

[renaboss]

I will say this, I laughed at the coco GIF comment, and I even like Filthy. Get a sense of humor, guys.

[Golden Bluebird]

kworb.net/airadio/

*** = Dropped or added a format

Overall AI (Top 20) - 01/19/2018
1. (=) ED SHEERAN - Perfect (201.228) (+1.170)
2. (=) CAMILA CABELLO - Havana f/Young Thug (180.142) (-1.311)
3. (=) HALSEY - Bad At Love (148.106) (+0.341)
4. (=) POST MALONE - Rockstar f/21 Savage (137.421) (-1.884)
5. (=) DUA LIPA - New Rules (131.526) (+1.583)
6. (=) SAM SMITH - Too Good At Goodbyes (120.317) (-1.369)
7. (=) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Thunder (119.280) (-0.838)
8. (=) CHARLIE PUTH - How Long (90.802) (+1.197)
9. (=) KENDRICK LAMAR - LOVE. (89.824) (+0.346)
10. (=) PORTUGAL. THE MAN - Feel It Still (88.405) (-0.919)
11. (=) SHAWN MENDES - There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back (83.163) (-0.492)
12. (=) BRUNO MARS & CARDI B - Finesse (80.251) (+2.282)
13. (=) MAROON 5 - What Lovers Do f/SZA (71.797) (-1.517)
14. (=) MAX - Lights Down Low (71.241) (+0.344)
15. (=) G-EAZY - No Limit f/A$AP Rocky, Cardi B (71.056) (+0.290)
16. (+1) NF - Let You Down (69.744) (+0.475)
17. (+1) ERIC CHURCH - Round Here Buzz (68.963) (+0.517)
18. (+1) RUSSELL DICKERSON - Yours (68.357) (+0.841)
19. (-3) DEMI LOVATO - Sorry Not Sorry (67.853) (-1.597)
20. (+1) TAYLOR SWIFT - End Game f/Ed Sheeran/Future (66.779) (-0.372)

Outside the Top 20:
27. (+1) CHRIS YOUNG - Losing Sleep (57.656) (+1.136)
28. (+1) G-EAZY & HALSEY - Him & I (57.522) (+1.582)
39. (+1) OLD DOMINION - Written In The Sand (48.031) (+1.062)
45. (+1) BEBE REXHA - Meant To Be f/F.G.L. (42.327) (+1.285)

[jenglisbe]

"Finesse" isn't overtaking "Perfect" in airplay anytime soon. "Finesse" is also behind in sales and currently has no momentum there. It will need a hype Grammys performance to have a shot at #1 anytime soon, no?

Meanwhile, Spotify streaming for the chart week:
"Havana" - 7,445,361
"Finesse" - 7,286,492
"Perfect" - 6,483,434 (includes Beyonce version but not Bocelli version)

"Havana" looks like its streaming might just be enough to get #1 next chart, but of course "Perfect" would move back to #1 the next chart.

[fhas]

Perfect vs. Havana is exactly like Black Beatles vs. Starboy. Six weeks at #1 for Perfect/BB, one week at #1 for Havana/Starboy, then Perfect/BB returns to #1 for a seventh week.

[chartslovergermany]

Jan 19, 2018 10:05:03 GMT -5 fhas said:

Perfect vs. Havana is exactly like Black Beatles vs. Starboy. Six weeks at #1 for Perfect/BB, one week at #1 for Havana/Starboy, then Perfect/BB returns to #1 for a seventh week.

yes but havana was also 5 weeks behind rockstar and only 2 behind perfect

[kingofpain]

Do the streaming gap points make up the difference in airplay points between Havana and Perfect? I kinda hope Perfect stays on top...

[fhas]

Jan 19, 2018 10:31:16 GMT -5 chartslovergermany said:

Jan 19, 2018 10:05:03 GMT -5 fhas said:

Perfect vs. Havana is exactly like Black Beatles vs. Starboy. Six weeks at #1 for Perfect/BB, one week at #1 for Havana/Starboy, then Perfect/BB returns to #1 for a seventh week.

yes but havana was also 5 weeks behind rockstar and only 2 behind perfect

Starboy was #2 for 5 weeks with Closer at #1 and 3 weeks with Black Beatles at #1. Havana probably will have another week at #2 with Perfect at #1 two weeks from now (Feb. 3 chart).

[Hugo!]

Jan 19, 2018 10:05:03 GMT -5 fhas said:

Perfect vs. Havana is exactly like Black Beatles vs. Starboy. Six weeks at #1 for Perfect/BB, one week at #1 for Havana/Starboy, then Perfect/BB returns to #1 for a seventh week.

So New Rules will shoot up to #1 in what? 3 weeks? Okay.

[chartslovergermany]

Jan 19, 2018 10:45:11 GMT -5 kingofpain said:

Do the streaming gap points make up the difference in airplay points between Havana and Perfect? I kinda hope Perfect stays on top...

yes streaming counts more😂😂havana oh na na

[fhas]

Jan 19, 2018 11:05:37 GMT -5 Hugo! said:

Jan 19, 2018 10:05:03 GMT -5 fhas said:

Perfect vs. Havana is exactly like Black Beatles vs. Starboy. Six weeks at #1 for Perfect/BB, one week at #1 for Havana/Starboy, then Perfect/BB returns to #1 for a seventh week.

So New Rules will shoot up to #1 in what? 3 weeks? Okay.

The week you're referring is the Grammys week, so it's possible that a song like Finesse goes #1 if it's performed. New Rules is not going #1, obviously.

[leonagwen]

www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/8095116/camila-cabello-havana-ed-sheeran-perfect-number-one-hot-100-battle

[Glove Slap]

Why is Havana predicted to sell less than Perfect? Wasn't it ahead almost the entire week?

[fhas]

Jan 19, 2018 12:29:41 GMT -5 Glove Slap said:

Why is Havana predicted to sell less than Perfect? Wasn't it ahead almost the entire week?

CMA? It's gonna sell ~80k and will count for its Hot 100 points but not for the HDS chart.

[fhas]

"Additionally, "Havana" would become the first song to spend at least seven weeks at No. 2 on the Hot 100 before ascending to the top spot since Justin Bieber's "Sorry," which tallied eight frames at No. 2 before beginning a three-week reign on Jan. 23, 2016."

They completed forgot that Starboy spent eight weeks at #2 in 2016 before reaching #1 in 2017.

[fhas]

rockstar is #1 on Pandora for a (record-extending?) 14th week.

www.nextbigsound.com/charts/top-spins

I know that Closer led for 12 weeks, but I can't remember any other song with more than 10 weeks.

[kcdawg13]

How is Perfect still gaining airplay? Is no one sick of this song yet?

Oh s**t Shape Of You flashbacks.

You know, if Perfect ends up being the #1 song of the year, I am gonna be very disappointed. 

[CF15]

"rockstar" is predicted to go back up to #3 this week while "Finesse" is predicted to go down? Wow, I thought "Finesse" would, at the very least, stay in the top 3. I hope it can still be the next #1 after "Havana", assuming that gets to #1 this week, which I hope it does.

[korbel16]

When was the last time a Cuban artist hit number 1 ?