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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 7:09:23 GMT -5
What are chances, obviously based on only one single, that Carrie Underwood gets in AOTY with her new album? She's never had an album nominated before, but if the material is as personal as she says, maybe there's a chance?
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Post by Troublemaker on May 2, 2018 8:21:27 GMT -5
What are chances, obviously based on only one single, that Carrie Underwood gets in AOTY with her new album? She's never had an album nominated before, but if the material is as personal as she says, maybe there's a chance? It's way too early to speculate especially based on one single besides NO ONE knows how it will be received. Check back a day after she releases it! |
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Post by filthy on May 9, 2018 16:49:52 GMT -5
We got a lot of urban albums out already. I wonder which are getting nominated for urban contemporary album of the year. Drake's Scorpion no doubt, even though it hasn't been released yet.
J. Cole perhaps? I just don't think, that KOD is grammy material
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Post by collegedropout on May 9, 2018 22:13:17 GMT -5
"This is America" is our first ROTY/SOTY nominee lock.
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Post by wavey. on May 10, 2018 10:03:39 GMT -5
Cole def should get another nom. Cardi,Nicki, Migos, Gambino, Drake, even Bloccboy JB all have a Rap shot right now.
Janelle for Urban Contemporary and AOTY.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2018 10:06:35 GMT -5
We got a lot of urban albums out already. I wonder which are getting nominated for urban contemporary album of the year. Drake's Scorpion no doubt, even though it hasn't been released yet. J. Cole perhaps? I just don't think, that KOD is grammy material Well those two would be up for rap album, not urban contemp. That aside, Drake didn't submit anything from More Life so the big question with him is whether he will even bother. Cole could get a nomination or two, but half the time the Grammys pay him dust and it's not like he'd have a shot at winning anyway. I don't expect KOD to be any different, but I also don't think he cares. tbh he might be another one who doesn't even bother submitting and we just won't know it b/c no one is tracking J. Cole's moves like that. Back to the urban contemporary category, Janelle is pretty much a lock. The Weeknd, even though My Dear Meloncholy is only an EP, has good odds. Miguel seems to be well liked by urban voters, so I could see him being nominated. Chris Brown, Ty $, and Kelala are also eligible. |
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Post by filthy on May 10, 2018 10:30:39 GMT -5
Oh yeah, there's a rap album. Got a little confused there haha. But now that we are talking about urban contemporary; Janelle is lock yeah, but the album is overrated imo. It could be sweet watching Miguel getting some nominations, War & Leisure is a great album. If The Weeknd gets nominated again, he'll probably win (just like Starboy), though Starboy didn't deserve it, and neither does his EP.
What about Toni Braxton's new album? She is kind of iconic as well
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Post by Troublemaker on May 10, 2018 10:40:53 GMT -5
Oh yeah, there's a rap album. Got a little confused there haha. But now that we are talking about urban contemporary; Janelle is lock yeah, but the album is overrated imo. It could be sweet watching Miguel getting some nominations, War & Leisure is a great album. If The Weeknd gets nominated again, he'll probably win (just like Starboy), though Starboy didn't deserve it, and neither does his EP. What about Toni Braxton's new album? She is kind of iconic as well Toni has a better chance of getting in R&B album, so far in that category it's Leon Bridges, Toni & Mya |
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Post by musicfix18 on May 10, 2018 11:15:18 GMT -5
I think this will be the year a hip hop star wins AOTY. Would love for it to be Cardi. Could she get BNA nom? (blanking if she got it last year).
I also expect Kacey, Janelle, and Childish Gambino to do well in their genres/GF categories.x
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2018 11:28:58 GMT -5
Gambino! How did I forget him. Last year he was in urban contemp I believe? This time it seems like he could go urban contemp or rap, hard to say. But assuming he sticks with UC, he'll definitely be Janelle's biggest competition.
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Post by musicfix18 on May 10, 2018 11:32:41 GMT -5
Gambino! How did I forget him. Last year he was in urban contemp I believe? This time it seems like he could go urban contemp or rap, hard to say. But assuming he sticks with UC, he'll definitely be Janelle's biggest competition. He was also nominated for AOTY! |
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Post by jenglisbe on May 22, 2018 8:33:00 GMT -5
Pop Duo/Group is the most interesting category. There are a ton of hits that fit this category, so it's about whether they are eligible and whether they go here or elsewhere. Contenders:
"Perfect" (assuming it's eligible)
"Finesse" (assuming it's eligible, also could go Rap/Sung)
"Havana" (though if "Sangria Wine" is a hit it could go here and "Havana" to Pop Solo for the solo version)
"Meant to Be" (but could go Country Duo/Group)
"The Middle" (but could go Dance Recording)
"Whatever It Takes"
"Wait"
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Post by Troublemaker on May 22, 2018 9:12:13 GMT -5
" Havana" (though if "Sangria Wine" is a hit it could go here and "Havana" to Pop Solo for the solo version) The only version that is eligible is the remix feat Daddy Yankee. The original was submitted last year |
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Post by anafan on May 28, 2018 10:02:16 GMT -5
I've read discussion here and on Goldderby about Taylor's GF chances. I think she will for sure get a nom in AOTY. Delicate seems to be doing well still so that will help keep momentum/interest in the era.
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Post by musicfix18 on May 28, 2018 13:51:07 GMT -5
I've read discussion here and on Goldderby about Taylor's GF chances. I think she will for sure get a nom in AOTY. Delicate seems to be doing well still so that will help keep momentum/interest in the era. I don't think it will be a slam dunk, though. I think she has a better chance at Pop Album. I think AOTY will be: Childish Janelle Pink St. Vincent Black Panther |
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Post by kanfad on May 28, 2018 14:19:04 GMT -5
I've read discussion here and on Goldderby about Taylor's GF chances. I think she will for sure get a nom in AOTY. Delicate seems to be doing well still so that will help keep momentum/interest in the era. I don't think it will be a slam dunk, though. I think she has a better chance at Pop Album. I think AOTY will be: Childish Janelle Pink St. Vincent Black Panther Yeah dont think the secret committee would let Taylor get a fourth AOTY nomination because with the grammy voters, that would be an automatic win and that kind of backlash isnt what they need right now. But then again, with the lack of female winners at the last few ceremonies, they might consider it. Also shouldn't Cardi be up there for AOTY? I mean, IOP was really good |
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Post by kanfad on May 28, 2018 14:25:38 GMT -5
We got a lot of urban albums out already. I wonder which are getting nominated for urban contemporary album of the year. Drake's Scorpion no doubt, even though it hasn't been released yet. J. Cole perhaps? I just don't think, that KOD is grammy material Well those two would be up for rap album, not urban contemp. That aside, Drake didn't submit anything from More Life so the big question with him is whether he will even bother. Cole could get a nomination or two, but half the time the Grammys pay him dust and it's not like he'd have a shot at winning anyway. I don't expect KOD to be any different, but I also don't think he cares. tbh he might be another one who doesn't even bother submitting and we just won't know it b/c no one is tracking J. Cole's moves like that. Back to the urban contemporary category, Janelle is pretty much a lock. The Weeknd, even though My Dear Meloncholy is only an EP, has good odds. Miguel seems to be well liked by urban voters, so I could see him being nominated. Chris Brown, Ty $, and Kelala are also eligible. Post Malone submitted Stoney for urban contemporary album instead of best rap album last year. I think B&B also fits that category and should be a lock considering that it will be one of the top 2 biggest albums of the year |
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Post by Troublemaker on May 28, 2018 16:00:45 GMT -5
I don't think it will be a slam dunk, though. I think she has a better chance at Pop Album. I think AOTY will be: Childish Janelle Pink St. Vincent Black Panther All these talk about St. Vincent is exciting considering how quiet this era has been |
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Post by jenglisbe on May 28, 2018 16:20:11 GMT -5
I've read discussion here and on Goldderby about Taylor's GF chances. I think she will for sure get a nom in AOTY. Delicate seems to be doing well still so that will help keep momentum/interest in the era. I don't think it will be a slam dunk, though. I think she has a better chance at Pop Album. I think AOTY will be: Childish Janelle Pink St. Vincent Black Panther Pink didn’t get in Record or Song this past year, and she hasn’t had any hits since that lead single. Why would she suddenly get in AOTY? |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2018 17:01:39 GMT -5
What are chances, obviously based on only one single, that Carrie Underwood gets in AOTY with her new album? She's never had an album nominated before, but if the material is as personal as she says, maybe there's a chance? It's way too early to speculate especially based on one single besides NO ONE knows how it will be received. Check back a day after she releases it! Carrie has never even received a Best Country Album nomination I can't imagine her getting into AOTY unless she releases some career-defining blockbuster. |
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Post by 14887fan on May 28, 2018 18:19:16 GMT -5
I genuinely think Kacey Musgraves will be in AOTY.
Kacey Musgraves
Black Panther
Janelle Monae
Childish Gambino
Pink or Kelly Clarkson
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Post by musicfix18 on May 28, 2018 22:59:19 GMT -5
I genuinely think Kacey Musgraves will be in AOTY. Kacey Musgraves Black Panther Janelle Monae Childish Gambino Pink or Kelly Clarkson She is a dark horse for sure. I also agree that Kelly could sneak in to grab a spot. Cardi B should be nominated (IMHO), and I expect her to be nominated well in genre categories. I am not sure, though, she will break into the general field. Ideally, it would be Cardi, Childish, BP, Kelly, and maybe Carrie (one can dream). |
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Post by shayonce on May 29, 2018 5:51:52 GMT -5
I don't think it will be a slam dunk, though. I think she has a better chance at Pop Album. I think AOTY will be: Childish Janelle Pink St. Vincent Black Panther Pink didn’t get in Record or Song this past year, and she hasn’t had any hits since that lead single. Why would she suddenly get in AOTY? ikr. I don't see P!nk or Kelly clarkson getting into general. lol there's no hype, no hits, no critical acclaim. If they want some female nomination, they will go with new hit girls or critically acclaimed album. |
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Post by shayonce on May 29, 2018 6:00:37 GMT -5
and Taylor won't get GF nominationt too. her first single was ignored last year by both voters(for pop) and committee(for general).
no big hit, no critical acclaim, polarizing new sound.
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Post by shayonce on May 29, 2018 6:03:18 GMT -5
here's some interesting story by HDD hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=311805"Another idea gaining some traction, besides freshening up the voting memebership, is bringing back gender-specific categories, which were abolished in 2011." "Meanwhile, there’s been some discussion about the possibility of splitting the Grammys into two shows—one mainstream, ratings-friendly pop-culture extravaganza for key genre categories and a more cutting-edge night showcasing some of the Big Four categories." |
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Post by magik on May 29, 2018 7:19:34 GMT -5
here's some interesting story by HDD hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=311805"Another idea gaining some traction, besides freshening up the voting memebership, is bringing back gender-specific categories, which were abolished in 2011." "Meanwhile, there’s been some discussion about the possibility of splitting the Grammys into two shows—one mainstream, ratings-friendly pop-culture extravaganza for key genre categories and a more cutting-edge night showcasing some of the Big Four categories." Bringing back gender-specific categories will only further the idea that women can't compete against men. The categories are fine the way they are. It's not the Grammys fault that males dominated both critically and commercially last year. |
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Post by kanimal on May 29, 2018 8:28:29 GMT -5
here's some interesting story by HDD hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=311805"Another idea gaining some traction, besides freshening up the voting memebership, is bringing back gender-specific categories, which were abolished in 2011." "Meanwhile, there’s been some discussion about the possibility of splitting the Grammys into two shows— one mainstream, ratings-friendly pop-culture extravaganza for key genre categories and a more cutting-edge night showcasing some of the Big Four categories." This show already runs a few times a year. It's called the Billboard Music Awards in the spring, the MTV Video Music Awards in the summer, and the American Music Awards in the fall. Ratings for each show pale in comparison to those of the Grammys, because there's no sense of prestige. This idea would take the prestige out of the Grammys as well. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2018 9:03:53 GMT -5
Pink didn’t get in Record or Song this past year, and she hasn’t had any hits since that lead single. Why would she suddenly get in AOTY? ikr. I don't see P!nk or Kelly clarkson getting into general. lol there's no hype, no hits, no critical acclaim. If they want some female nomination, they will go with new hit girls or critically acclaimed album. and Taylor won't get GF nominationt too. her first single was ignored last year by both voters(for pop) and committee(for general). no big hit, no critical acclaim, polarizing new sound. While I don't necessarily want to place a bet on any of these women being nominated in AOTY, I disagree that they lack hits, hype, and acclaim. They all have 2 of the 3 going for them (and plenty of AOTY-nominated albums have lacked one or even two of the three): - The 'critically acclaimed' threshold is generally lower for pop/mainstream albums than other genres. 1989 and 21 have a 76 on Metacritic; 25 has a 75; 24k Magic has a 70. In comparison, Meaning of Life has a 73, reputation has a 71, and Beautiful Trauma has a 62. This is the one category where P!nk comes up short. - Sales/hits are always relative to what the rest of the industry is doing. So far, Taylor and P!nk have the best and second-best selling pop releases, respectively. This is the category where Kelly brings up the rear, though if she would ever announce her tour and attaches a ticket bundle to it, she would likely get enough redemptions for a gold album cert. - I'd actually argue that Kelly has been massively hyped, maybe more than any other pop artist or album this eligibility period. Kelly will be returning to The Voice next season, so her name in general will have continued hype/press around it during the entire voting period that she can try to attach to her album. Her team has done an amazing job of making sure her name stays afloat in a positive manner the entire year (and it's worth pointing out that she's on Atlantic, which has shown in recent years to have strong Grammy pull for its artists). P!nk has been more lowkey, but she did start off her era with positive vibes and respect for her talent/status - I'd wager most people probably don't even know BT's critical reception was so mediocre. This is where Taylor is the one who stumbles; worse than having no hype, she's battling negative hype. Her album sales were very frontloaded and public reaction did match the critics' reaction; that negative perception might follow her when the ballots are released. I have a hard time seeing the Grammys excluding pop from the AOTY category, and Taylor, Kelly, and P!nk are the artists right now within closest reach of that pop slot. Strangely enough Kelly seems to be the most well-positioned of the three just due to all the positive goodwill around her at the moment. I need to see how Ariana's album performs though b/c I think she's in a good position to snatch if Sweetener is really well-received. Also, if Florence submits her album to pop then that might be what gets AOTY nominated and treated as the 'pop' album. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2018 9:22:29 GMT -5
here's some interesting story by HDD hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=311805"Another idea gaining some traction, besides freshening up the voting memebership, is bringing back gender-specific categories, which were abolished in 2011." "Meanwhile, there’s been some discussion about the possibility of splitting the Grammys into two shows— one mainstream, ratings-friendly pop-culture extravaganza for key genre categories and a more cutting-edge night showcasing some of the Big Four categories." This show already runs a few times a year. It's called the Billboard Music Awards in the spring, the MTV Video Music Awards in the summer, and the American Music Awards in the fall. Ratings for each show pale in comparison to those of the Grammys, because there's no sense of prestige. This idea would take the prestige out of the Grammys as well. I dunno, this might not be such a bad idea, if executed properly. The only problem I see with this is that it's the genre-category show that should be treated as the 'cutting edge' set, to give more attention to acts who otherwise would never even get their categories presented on tv let alone hear their names called on stage. The Big Four show should simply focus on making sure every major nominee gets a performance slot; there will always be enough big names in the mix to guarantee ratings. The ship may or may not have already sailed on the sense of prestige. Depends on who you ask, I guess. |
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Post by Glove Slap on May 29, 2018 9:35:28 GMT -5
I don't see Pink or Kelly Clarkson getting into AOTY either. Not optimistic about Taylor too, but she at least has a higher chance than Pink.
Kacey and Janelle I can see working their way in, moreso Janelle (even though its her worst album with ease). They run into the same issue as St. Vincent because their campaigns are quite after the release, though Kacey's been keeping herself out there, and she has the benefit of a prior nomination in it.
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