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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 11:55:12 GMT -5
damn. another one bites the dust.
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Post by Active Aggressive on Nov 30, 2018 12:14:04 GMT -5
LOL. I wouldn't exactly call this racist (or support Disco Magazine's tabloid takedown culture), but pretty stupid, nonetheless. I would love to hear his explanations but I'm sure it was just "I was young and stupid and didn't know any better." Eminem has said worse and went on to be the best rapper alive with respect and acceptance from the Black community. Other than me, I don't really know any Black people checking for Shawn anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2018 12:22:28 GMT -5
LOL. I wouldn't exactly call this racist (or support Disco Magazine's tabloid takedown culture), but pretty stupid, nonetheless. I would love to hear his explanations but I'm sure it was just "I was young and stupid and didn't know any better." Eminem has said worse and went on to be the best rapper alive with respect and acceptance from the Black community. Other than me, I don't really know any Black people checking for Shawn anyway. Oh I just meant he bites the dust for me, personally. That stuff plus the RS article (even if he is closeted and struggling it's a mess) are a problematic 1-2 punch that aren't worth giving a 'young and stupid' mulligan. If the performance of Lost In Japan is any indication there aren't a lot of people of any race checking for him these days.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Nov 30, 2018 12:22:35 GMT -5
Yeah, those comments (particularly the "I can see the black coming out in you" one) are wtf...
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Post by Dammn Baby on Nov 30, 2018 12:33:37 GMT -5
The internalized homophobia jumped out.
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Post by Active Aggressive on Nov 30, 2018 12:39:53 GMT -5
I will definitely say that article only made him seem more desperate to stay closeted. I can't imagine how his team is going to scramble to fix this but I bet he will be dating someone very soon. Hailey really blew his cover by running back to Bieber as soon as their showmance reached its expiration date. I am secretly hoping he is straight, but if he is, the article makes him look homophobic, so he really can't win.
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Post by circadian on Nov 30, 2018 14:55:11 GMT -5
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt about those tweets, c'mon, the boy was 15 at the time. I did and said plenty of ignorant and stupid shit at that age. I'm curious to see how his team handles it, though. The interview on the other hand, is pretty cringey. On one hand I kinda feel bad for him, imagine him really being a closeted gay refusing to come out while everyone is trying to drag you out of it. Oh, well...
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on Nov 30, 2018 15:13:41 GMT -5
I can see both sides. If he isn't, sure it's annoying to be constantly called something you're not, regardless of what that is. If he is, again it's annoying for people to be constantly trying to make you 'fess up'. To be honest, if he had complete confidence in this and himself, I'm not sure why he would feel the need to address it in such a way? Couldn't he just say "it's my private life, not up for discussion either way" and leave it at that? Edit: Clearly he doesn't have that confidence and seems kinda on edge overall, so wanted to acknowledge that... maybe he needs some downtime.
As for the 2013 posts... yeah they're not great, but they're not malicious either.
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Post by SHOOTER on Dec 1, 2018 1:39:52 GMT -5
So much. Too much. I can’t.
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Post by pnobelysk on Dec 1, 2018 10:47:56 GMT -5
Team Pre high school tweets can rarely change my opinion of someone. I said the n word occasionally in middle school and high school and let me tell you almost every white person in my school did. And then we got older and a large portion of us stopped. That’s just how it goes sometime when the higher ups don’t teach you any better and you have to discover for yourself it’s not proper
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 11:11:31 GMT -5
Oh god, please leave him alone. He’s literally one of the nicest, most harmless stars out there — he made some stupid comments when he was 13/14, everybody does and I’m sure he regrets them now.
Tbh I’m scared for him. I don’t want him to be the next Britney or JB, but if he’s really in the closet and sensitive enough that he’s gonna let these things get to him, it’s only a matter of time before he cracks.
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Post by Okay on Dec 1, 2018 11:30:36 GMT -5
I don't mind him being homophobic as long as he respects the gays, but the racist posts are disturbing. I hope he knows better now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 11:44:44 GMT -5
The internalized homophobia jumped out. Gays will really sit there and force their sexuality on someone then cry homophobe when they get upset like straight people haven’t been doing the same for centuries. It’s not cute when straight men do it to women, it’s not cute when gays fo it to straights. Shut up. How old are these posts anyway? I didn’t check the time stamps but I think you’d be hard pressed to find people who didn’t make posts like this prior to 2012-2013 when a lot of things went public socially, myself included, and especially young impressionable high schoolers. Not saying anyone has to like him after this, but I thought we were finally done with cancel culture and actually allowing people an opportunity to grow? If not, then when are we canceling Disco for his rampant sexism?
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Dec 1, 2018 12:26:11 GMT -5
The internalized homophobia jumped out. Gays will really sit there and force their sexuality on someone then cry homophobe when they get upset like straight people haven’t been doing the same for centuries. It’s not cute when straight men do it to women, it’s not cute when gays fo it to straights. Shut up. How old are these posts anyway? I didn’t check the time stamps but I think you’d be hard pressed to find people who didn’t make posts like this prior to 2012-2013 when a lot of things went public socially, myself included, and especially young impressionable high schoolers. Not saying anyone has to like him after this, but I thought we were finally done with cancel culture and actually allowing people an opportunity to grow? If not, then when are we canceling Disco for his rampant sexism? Is cancel culture really ending? I still see that ish all the time. lol
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Post by shrk314 on Dec 1, 2018 12:26:23 GMT -5
The internalized homophobia jumped out. Gays will really sit there and force their sexuality on someone then cry homophobe when they get upset like straight people haven’t been doing the same for centuries. It’s not cute when straight men do it to women, it’s not cute when gays fo it to straights. Shut up. How old are these posts anyway? I didn’t check the time stamps but I think you’d be hard pressed to find people who didn’t make posts like this prior to 2012-2013 when a lot of things went public socially, myself included, and especially young impressionable high schoolers. Not saying anyone has to like him after this, but I thought we were finally done with cancel culture and actually allowing people an opportunity to grow? If not, then when are we canceling Disco for his rampant sexism? Why is a person with the username Kunt more reasonable than 80% of pulse?
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Post by Active Aggressive on Dec 1, 2018 14:04:34 GMT -5
Gays will really sit there and force their sexuality on someone then cry homophobe when they get upset like straight people haven’t been doing the same for centuries. It’s not cute when straight men do it to women, it’s not cute when gays fo it to straights. Shut up. How old are these posts anyway? I didn’t check the time stamps but I think you’d be hard pressed to find people who didn’t make posts like this prior to 2012-2013 when a lot of things went public socially, myself included, and especially young impressionable high schoolers. Not saying anyone has to like him after this, but I thought we were finally done with cancel culture and actually allowing people an opportunity to grow? If not, then when are we canceling Disco for his rampant sexism? Why is a person with the username Kunt more reasonable than 80% of pulse? Because he's @touch. Recognize, ho.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 14:22:57 GMT -5
Why is a person with the username Kunt more reasonable than 80% of pulse? Because he's @touch. Recognize, ho. tell the PMA voters that smh
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Post by Choco on Dec 1, 2018 14:31:05 GMT -5
IDK why famous people don't delete all their old tweets at this point.
I'm not saying those messages are OK but he was a teenager saying dumb stuff. All teenagers do, it's just that he happened to become famous after.
RE: the gay rumours, at this point, if he were gay he would have very little to lose career-wise if he came out so I don't think he is actually gay... or maybe he is not sure of his sexuality at this point in life. He should stop addressing the subject at all.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 15:54:13 GMT -5
There’s probably some money to be made in media cleaning but honestly I can’t think of one artist whose career tanked because of a handful of tweets from half a decade ago; probably not worth the time for labels or artists to do it. Guaranteed he probably doesn’t remember saying any of this in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 19:14:32 GMT -5
Shawn is just screaming to have a dick in his ass.
I didn't care for him yesterday as neither a positive or negative don't care for him today and that post is typical problematic white boi s**t. Wouldn't even say he was being racist it's just that they think that s**t is funny. He is still the mediocre artist and bland boring human he was yesterday.
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Post by shrk314 on Dec 1, 2018 19:48:31 GMT -5
Shawn is just screaming to have a dick in his ass. I didn't care for him yesterday as neither a positive or negative don't care for him today and that post is typical problematic white boi s**t. Wouldn't even say he was being racist it's just that they think that s**t is funny. He is still the mediocre artist and bland boring human he was yesterday. If Shawn Mendes is homophobic, people like you are probably the reason why
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2018 20:03:43 GMT -5
Shawn is just screaming to have a dick in his ass. I didn't care for him yesterday as neither a positive or negative don't care for him today and that post is typical problematic white boi s**t. Wouldn't even say he was being racist it's just that they think that s**t is funny. He is still the mediocre artist and bland boring human he was yesterday. If Shawn Mendes is homophobic, people like you are probably the reason why Sure Bob. Yet regardless of the dirt that gets splashed all around I remain #HateFree. Homophobic is a strong word but if he is that. Then that is an inward thing not outward thing.
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Post by shrk314 on Dec 1, 2018 20:19:32 GMT -5
If Shawn Mendes is homophobic, people like you are probably the reason why Sure Bob. Yet regardless of the dirt that gets splashed all around I remain #HateFree. Homophobic is a strong word but if he is that. Then that is an inward thing not outward thing. calling someone you dont know a bland boring human doesn't sound to #HateFree to me. That said, i should have just attacked your comments instead of you. I wasn't being too #HateFree myself lol. My apologies.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2018 4:56:42 GMT -5
interesting interview was there a photo shot with it?
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Post by LBTrocks on Dec 2, 2018 5:10:30 GMT -5
wtf Shawn lol
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Post by sundaymorningguy on Dec 2, 2018 7:42:25 GMT -5
He comes across as someone who is in his head too much. It is a shame people can’t let him figure himself out. He will be who he is. He says he is straight, and I take him at his word. If that changes cool, if it doesn’t that is cool too. Some people want to bully him by saying he is in the closet, and the minute he pushes back and says that isn’t the case he gets labeled a homophobe by some trying to explain something he has already explained and shouldn’t have to reexplain.
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Post by weaver on Dec 2, 2018 10:04:18 GMT -5
I actually feel kinda bad for him after reading that article. The tweets...whatever he was like 14 then, and nobody knows wtf they are doing at 14. I feel like everyone should take him at his word, and also that if he was gay he'd probably just say so, because does anyone really care at this point?
That being said, as a formerly closeted gay man myself, I can relate to a lot of his thought process as far as how people perceive him. The whole analysis of his own speech patterns and mannerisms, to make sure he doesn't come off gay, and if someone thought something seemed gay, never do it again... I know I had some of that thinking, and I can't imagine it magnified by being famous. I hope that if he IS gay, that he just stops responding to people, and if he isn't, he is able to just be himself and not worry if something comes across as slightly feminine.
Hell, maybe he's bi/fluid. He's only 20, and has been in the public eye for 5ish years, so maybe he's totally unsure of what he even is. I think the press and everyone else need to back the f off of him in that regard.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Dec 2, 2018 10:52:10 GMT -5
Unfortunately, the gay discussion won't end until he says he's gay because by saying he's straight the way he has been, he's seen as being defensive and some either take offence to that or see him as being defensive like he has something to hide. Gay guys and disco will say he's gay because that's what they want, which will somehow fuel gay rumours.
He could play it up like Nick or some of the OneDirectioners and kind of run with it despite not being gay - but I get the impression he doesn't have the personality type for it and that should be okay. His word should be enough.
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Post by PerPlexied on Dec 2, 2018 10:55:15 GMT -5
My problem with Shawn is that he will probably come out as "bi" in a few years after his career has cooled down but really he's a homosexual hiding it to continue to make money off of unaware teenage girls.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2018 18:14:43 GMT -5
Sure Bob. Yet regardless of the dirt that gets splashed all around I remain #HateFree. Homophobic is a strong word but if he is that. Then that is an inward thing not outward thing. calling someone you dont know a bland boring human doesn't sound to #HateFree to me. That said, i should have just attacked your comments instead of you. I wasn't being too #HateFree myself lol. My apologies. You're so rational and reasonable I can't even troll. But low key I was defending him in my own way saying sometimes we lash out when we are not completely ourselves. Do I think he is gay? probably but do I care or does it affect me nope. I wasn't being malicious more cute shade based on how I perceive him. I appreciate your tone and attitude! We good sis!
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