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Post by mako on Apr 5, 2018 1:05:02 GMT -5
in 3 weeks things will change.!.!.!. Postey coming to land at Tilted Towers and destroying Drake!! Who does drake have? Ninja, travis scott? Pshhh, postey finna impulse them of the map
Help me im addicted to fortnite
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Post by Au$tin on Apr 5, 2018 1:13:10 GMT -5
"God's Plan" will probably be week enough by that point that "Psycho" can definitely fight for the number one spot with an album boost (much like "Havana" earlier this year).
I am sad at that date, though, if only for the fact that it will drastically take a lot of the spotlight away from Janelle Monáe's album releasing the same week.
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Post by 𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿 on Apr 5, 2018 1:40:35 GMT -5
Well, this should shake things up a bit.  Well great! I can't wait for this to come out  |
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Post by Enigma. on Apr 5, 2018 2:00:06 GMT -5
I think Top Off is flopping because of that sound at 0:02 lol Its just not a good song I love that "Top off my Maybach" hook, sad that it's not doing better on charts |
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Post by renaboss on Apr 5, 2018 2:56:24 GMT -5
"Psycho" is a sedative song, but if it's what it takes to topple "God's Plan", let's have it.
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Post by willapted33 on Apr 5, 2018 3:12:35 GMT -5
please let OKRA chart
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Post by mako on Apr 5, 2018 3:26:40 GMT -5
^ YES. PLEASE.
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Post by chartslovergermany on Apr 5, 2018 3:43:57 GMT -5
I love that "Top off my Maybach" hook, sad that it's not doing better on charts the video is still not out now and he released the trailer of it a month ago |
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Post by renaboss on Apr 5, 2018 5:33:38 GMT -5
So, don't hate on me please, but I actually like "Sad!".
I don't really know what the artist did, I'd rather stay ignorant.
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Post by kindofbiased on Apr 5, 2018 5:50:47 GMT -5
Outside of #1 (which is usually expected around this early part of the year), the charts have been pretty interesting in terms of movement when it comes to the top 10. A lot of songs entering the top 10 in a short amount of time, a fair amount of movement within the top 10, and a lot of really high debuts. For me it's not that the charts have been boring, it's that the songs themselves haven't been grabbing me like they have been in other years, both good and bad. There just doesn't seem to be that much to talk about with these songs like there was in 2017 or earlier years this decade.
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Post by rfucom on Apr 5, 2018 5:59:34 GMT -5
Really excited for post album and hope it will dethrone GP
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Post by willapted33 on Apr 5, 2018 5:59:55 GMT -5
So, don't hate on me please, but I actually like "Sad!". I don't really know what the artist did, I'd rather stay ignorant. i'll 1 up you and say I like the whole album quite a lot |
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Apr 5, 2018 8:08:29 GMT -5
kworb.net/airadio/*** = Dropped or added a format Overall AI (Top 20) - 04/05/20181. (+1) BEBE REXHA - Meant To Be f/F.G.L. (181.082) (+2.145) 2. (-1) BRUNO MARS & CARDI B - Finesse (180.997) (-2.471) 3. (=) DRAKE - God's Plan (155.183) (+0.538) 4. (=) ZEDD/MAREN MORRIS/GREY - The Middle (151.922) (+2.126) 5. (=) ED SHEERAN - Perfect (148.953) (-0.770) 6. (=) THE WEEKND & KENDRICK LAMAR - Pray For Me (118.680) (-0.492) 7. (=) MAX - Lights Down Low (112.960) (-0.608) 8. (=) DUA LIPA - New Rules (107.719) (-0.605) 9. (=) CAMILA CABELLO - Never Be The Same (100.476) (+1.742) 10. (=) CAMILA CABELLO - Havana f/Young Thug (94.437) (-1.042) 11. (=) G-EAZY & HALSEY - Him & I (93.961) (-0.945) 12. (=) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Whatever It Takes (92.054) (+1.112) 13. (=) NF - Let You Down (86.672) (-0.993) 14. (=) PORTUGAL. THE MAN - Feel It Still (73.084) (+0.204) 15. (=) LUKE BRYAN - Most People Are Good (72.936) (+0.297) 16. (=) MAROON 5 - Wait (68.998) (+0.856) 17. (=) KENDRICK LAMAR & SZA - All The Stars (66.836) (+0.210) 18. (=) JORDAN DAVIS - Singles You Up (66.539) (+0.880) 19. (+1) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Thunder (63.651) (-0.412) 20. (-1) HALSEY - Bad At Love (63.335) (-0.798) Outside the Top 20: 23. (+1) POST MALONE - Psycho f/Ty Dolla $ign (59.327) (+1.376) 42. (+1) SHAWN MENDES - In My Blood (44.009) (+1.636)
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Post by ahmiizafii on Apr 5, 2018 8:19:32 GMT -5
I cannot believe Bebe is N0 1 on the radio.
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Post by Gary on Apr 5, 2018 8:26:09 GMT -5
And Florida Georgia Line
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Apr 5, 2018 8:48:27 GMT -5
If "Psycho" does go to #1 due to Post's album, that will happen in the week of May 12 which, if Drake is still #1 by then, would mean "God's Plan" will have spent 14 weeks at #1.
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Post by Gary on Apr 5, 2018 9:17:39 GMT -5
Eventually something will spend 17 weeks at #1, with the slow turnover on streaming songs, it is only a matter of time
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Post by garrettlen on Apr 5, 2018 9:22:35 GMT -5
yeah, I bring up variations of that every time I think the magazine, pulls out the old articles and does a cut and paste job. That will only work for so long. Nothing magical about 1958 other than a chart change, if you include back to 1955, Elvis did it too Notice that Billboard acts these days like nothing before August 1958 (the Hot 100's debut) ever existed? Or at any rate, nothing before that date is in any way important? Too bad for any 50's artists that had any chart success before 1958 you simply don't matter to them anymore. The artist who is by far hit the worst by this is Elvis Presley. No less than 10 of his 17 overall #1 songs were between 1956 and pre-Hot 100 1958. It really gives a false impression of how popular he was in the 50's when that many of his hits are simply never even mentioned by Billboard anymore because they occurred before the all important Hot 100 chart was introduced. Most rock historians seem to agree that the rock and roll era started with "(We're Gonna) Rock Around the Clock" by Bill Haley & The Comets in 1955. Billboard's current practice of pretending that nothing significant happened before the Hot 100 also ignores some other significant milestones from rock and roll's first 3 years. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 5, 2018 9:26:15 GMT -5
yeah, I bring up variations of that every time I think the magazine, pulls out the old articles and does a cut and paste job. That will only work for so long. Nothing magical about 1958 other than a chart change, if you include back to 1955, Elvis did it too Notice that Billboard acts these days like nothing before August 1958 (the Hot 100's debut) ever existed? Or at any rate, nothing before that date is in any way important? Too bad for any 50's artists that had any chart success before 1958 you simply don't matter to them anymore. The artist who is by far hit the worst by this is Elvis Presley. No less than 10 of his overall 17 #1 songs were between 1956 and pre-Hot 100 1958. It really gives a false impression of how popular he was in the 50's when that many of his hits are simply never even mentioned by Billboard anymore because they occurred before the all important Hot 100 chart was introduced. Most rock historians seem to agree that the rock and roll era started with "(We're Gonna) Rock Around the Clock" by Bill Haley & The Comets in 1955. Billboard's current practice of pretending that nothing significant happened before the Hot 100 also ignores some other significant milestones from rock and roll's first 3 years. Why is Elvis the marker? The biggest-selling song ever - “White Christmas” - was released before the Hot 100. Crosby, Sinatra, etc have a lot of hits that never officially charted in that sense. What about that false impression? I think Billboard makes a point to say “Hot 100 era” type stuff. Anyone who follows charts knows what that means. What was the chart change or whatver that happened in 1958? |
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Post by Gary on Apr 5, 2018 9:30:10 GMT -5
In the Casey Kasem AT40 days, the historical beginning for modern chart achievements was the "Rock Era" or mid-1955, nothing magical about 1958 other than the Hot 100 --- nothing in the music changed, as opposed to 1955 there was a big change
The 1958 "chart change" was to have one list for the most popular singles rather than four
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Post by garrettlen on Apr 5, 2018 9:34:36 GMT -5
God is real - it's His plan that Mariah remains untouched. Ah f*ck me backwards, "Despacito" happened. Still untouched!  IMO, it's just a matter of time before another artist comes along and stays on top for 17 weeks. At this point, I think it's inevitable. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 5, 2018 9:45:48 GMT -5
The 1958 "chart change" was to have one list for the most popular singles rather than four Right. And how does it not make sense to use post-1958 as the standard? The equivalent would be if we now split the Hot 100 into its components - streaming, airplay, and downloads - yet continued to compare one or more of those chart topper stats to the singular Hot 100 chart topper. |
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Post by Gary on Apr 5, 2018 9:57:31 GMT -5
The 1958 "chart change" was to have one list for the most popular singles rather than four Right. And how does it not make sense to use post-1958 as the standard? The equivalent would be if we now split the Hot 100 into its components - streaming, airplay, and downloads - yet continued to compare one or more of those chart topper stats to the singular Hot 100 chart topper. Elvis and Rock N Roll --- the two biggest things to come out of 1955-1958 era As the only artist from that era to appear high on all-time lists - there is an asterisk next to his name It would make better sense to remove the asterisk and start everything from 1955 |
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Post by garrettlen on Apr 5, 2018 10:03:34 GMT -5
Notice that Billboard acts these days like nothing before August 1958 (the Hot 100's debut) ever existed? Or at any rate, nothing before that date is in any way important? Too bad for any 50's artists that had any chart success before 1958 you simply don't matter to them anymore. The artist who is by far hit the worst by this is Elvis Presley. No less than 10 of his overall 17 #1 songs were between 1956 and pre-Hot 100 1958. It really gives a false impression of how popular he was in the 50's when that many of his hits are simply never even mentioned by Billboard anymore because they occurred before the all important Hot 100 chart was introduced. Most rock historians seem to agree that the rock and roll era started with "(We're Gonna) Rock Around the Clock" by Bill Haley & The Comets in 1955. Billboard's current practice of pretending that nothing significant happened before the Hot 100 also ignores some other significant milestones from rock and roll's first 3 years. Why is Elvis the marker? The biggest-selling song ever - “White Christmas” - was released before the Hot 100. Crosby, Sinatra, etc have a lot of hits that never officially charted in that sense. What about that false impression? I think Billboard makes a point to say “Hot 100 era” type stuff. Anyone who follows charts knows what that means. What was the chart change or whatver that happened in 1958? Billboard started charting singles as far back as July 1940. Of course all those artists from the 1940's and earlier 1950's have had their chart achievements largely ignored as well in recent times by Billboard. The only reason I picked 1955 is because that is when the so called "rock and roll era" of the charts is largely agreed upon to have begun. By the way, according to Billboard, we are STILL IN the "rock and roll era", despite the fact that these days rock is rarely found on the Hot 100 anymore. The chart change was simply the changeover from the old charts Billboard had been using to the introduction of the all encompassing (for the time) Hot 100 chart. And BTW, if they released records after July 1940, Crosby, Sinatra and other older artists all DID have charting songs on the Billboard single charts at one time or another, pre-1958 and for some of them, even after 1958. I believe that "White Christmas" charted every Christmas season year after year on Billboard until 1962. |
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Post by Gary on Apr 5, 2018 10:07:37 GMT -5
White Christmas would have gone further but that was the year they began restricting Christmas titles
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Post by Gary on Apr 5, 2018 10:12:08 GMT -5
So where do you start measuring music, 1955 is better than 1958 I think because of the significant change in music at the time and AT40 used to do it that way.
You could start at 1940 too. The biggest artists of the day Bing Crosby and Frank Sinatra, big chunks of their performing careers pre-date 1958 as well
Go back before 1940 and then you pick up the rest of Bing Crosby's performing career as well as Louis Armstrong.
1958 is the starting point because of the Hot 100 but then like- Elvis there are artists that had bigger careers than many listed on the all-time lists today.
So where do you start? but really there is no good answer.
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Post by rimetm on Apr 5, 2018 10:13:54 GMT -5
The question is why the Top 100 isn’t considered part of the Hot 100 and why they even rebranded in the first place. Was it because the Top 100 was only based on metric positions and not actual stats? From what I read, sales were weighted over radio, but I notice the first number one got its third week atop while being beaten on both metrics by a single song, seemingly only sticking around thanks to topping the Jukebox metric, which seems like something that would lead to low stats due to low reporting and low audience numbers but could’ve been impactful if it turned out that the formula was as simple as 1.2 * 101-SalePos + 100-RadioPos + .8*101-JukePos or something in that vein. The other option is that the formula was data-based but just so whacked that they decided to start fresh in ‘58.
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Post by garrettlen on Apr 5, 2018 10:20:09 GMT -5
So where do you start measuring music, 1955 is better than 1958 I think because of the significant change in music at the time and AT40 used to do it that way. You could start at 1940 too. The biggest artists of the day Bing Crosby and Frank Sinatra, big chunks of their performing careers pre-date 1958 as well Go back before 1940 and then you pick up the rest of Bing Crosby's performing career as well as Louis Armstrong. 1958 is the starting point because of the Hot 100 but then like- Elvis there are artists that had bigger careers than many listed on the all-time lists today. So where do you start? but really there is no good answer. You start wherever you wish to start. |
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Post by garrettlen on Apr 5, 2018 10:33:56 GMT -5
yeah, I bring up variations of that every time I think the magazine, pulls out the old articles and does a cut and paste job. That will only work for so long. Nothing magical about 1958 other than a chart change, if you include back to 1955, Elvis did it too Elvis' double sided hit single "Don't Be Cruel/Hound Dog", was #1 on the pre-Hot 100 Billboard chart for 11 weeks in 1956. |
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Post by Dylan :) on Apr 5, 2018 10:35:20 GMT -5
I actually like Mine.. The lyrics in the verses aren't my favourite but the chorus and instrumental are infectious
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