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Post by kmbgs on Apr 26, 2018 17:03:38 GMT -5
Truly dying that no one has yet pointed out that having a Hot 100 #1 is difficult to get. Not everybody has that!
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Post by wjr15 on Apr 26, 2018 17:05:00 GMT -5
^ I still hear Santa Tell Me on the radio and in stores every holiday season. I think it will become one of those minor annual Christmas hits that gets a boost every December.
Looking back at Ariana’s discography, she has a lot of great, successful hits and imo, she gets better with each album. I doubt Ariana has reached her peak yet.
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Post by Mayman on Apr 26, 2018 17:07:05 GMT -5
I say Problem & Havana were pretty equally big in terms of impact and everything And in the long run will probably be there signature songs But overall Ari already is a fully developed artist Definitely the most successful new female Pop artist of the 2010s I don’t know why, but I still feel like she doesn’t have a signature song. I still think that this or something in the future could be the song that really brings her on a whole other level.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 17:07:41 GMT -5
Truly dying that no one has yet pointed out that having a Hot 100 #1 is difficult to get. Not everybody has that! Still doesn't mean it nullifies Ari's chart success at all Problem was inches away from #1 anyways and Havana really just snuck in that one week at #1
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 17:09:00 GMT -5
I say Problem & Havana were pretty equally big in terms of impact and everything And in the long run will probably be there signature songs But overall Ari already is a fully developed artist Definitely the most successful new female Pop artist of the 2010s I don’t know why, but I still feel like she doesn’t have a signature song. I still think that this or something in the future could be the song that really brings her on a whole other level. I actually understand that tbh I don't consider Problem like a signature song per say, but it definitely will be remembered as one of her biggest I can definitely see that something later down the road becomes that
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Post by Mayman on Apr 26, 2018 17:11:49 GMT -5
I don’t know why, but I still feel like she doesn’t have a signature song. I still think that this or something in the future could be the song that really brings her on a whole other level. I actually understand that tbh I don't consider Problem like a signature song per say, but it definitely will be remembered as one of her biggest I can definitely see that something later down the road becomes that Oh yeah for sure it will become one of her most remembered songs. As of right now, I think “Problem” and “Side To Side” are her more remembered songs. Maybe “Break Free” or “Dangerous Woman” as well.
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Post by super2018 on Apr 26, 2018 17:13:21 GMT -5
Truly dying that no one has yet pointed out that having a Hot 100 #1 is difficult to get. Not everybody has that! Far easier when your record company pays radio to play your songs and gives them away to stores.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 17:14:30 GMT -5
I actually understand that tbh I don't consider Problem like a signature song per say, but it definitely will be remembered as one of her biggest I can definitely see that something later down the road becomes that Oh yeah for sure it will become one of her most remembered songs. As of right now, I think “Problem” and “Side To Side” are her more remembered songs. Maybe “Break Free” or “Dangerous Woman” as well. DW maybe not so much A lot of people I know though, definitely know Into You mainly because of it's power rotation on NY stations during summer One Last Time too is probably well remembered following the tragedy at Manchester, not a good reason to remember a song since it still is such a tragic event but you get the point LMH also is pretty remembered
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Post by Mayman on Apr 26, 2018 17:17:10 GMT -5
Oh yeah for sure it will become one of her most remembered songs. As of right now, I think “Problem” and “Side To Side” are her more remembered songs. Maybe “Break Free” or “Dangerous Woman” as well. DW maybe not so much A lot of people I know though, definitely know Into You mainly because of it's power rotation on NY stations during summer One Last Time too is probably well remembered following the tragedy at Manchester, not a good reason to remember a song since it still is such a tragic event but you get the point LMH also is pretty remembered Completely forgot about OLT! I don’t follow the UK charts that much but didn’t it go top 10 for awhile after the tragedy? I could see that one being her more remembered songs in Europe’s, especially the UK.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 17:17:41 GMT -5
Technically, without Drake, she would had debuted at #1, so she is just unlucky.
Also I prefer Side to Side than Problem.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 17:18:01 GMT -5
Took me a while to sink my teeth into this song. But now I love it!!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 17:19:59 GMT -5
Drake constantly blocking Ari He's why DW didn't go #1 on the Billboard 200 too
Lol her team probably hate Drake
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Post by ilikemusic on Apr 26, 2018 17:33:12 GMT -5
Drake constantly blocking Ari He's why DW didn't go #1 on the Billboard 200 too Lol her team probably hate Drake Republic owns both of them. Her management is probably annoyed but the label is raking in millions regardless
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Post by #brayden on Apr 26, 2018 17:38:46 GMT -5
It doesn’t feel like she has a signature song because none of her songs have stood the test of time well. I’d say for now it’s “Problem”, though.
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Apr 26, 2018 17:42:44 GMT -5
It’s definitely “Problem”.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 17:47:20 GMT -5
I was watching on TV that another artist was going to be on "Problem" instead of Iggy, but she wanted Iggy really bad. I wish she had stuck to the original artist.
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Post by The Northern Star⭐ on Apr 26, 2018 17:52:42 GMT -5
Truly dying that no one has yet pointed out that having a Hot 100 #1 is difficult to get. Not everybody has that!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 17:53:19 GMT -5
Bruh the group that Camila left had people that constantly followed and stanned them, and it didn't translate into consistent success. Ariana does seem have more of the group that you need to have constant success: Women (i.e. the group that made Drake massive, and that Lady Gaga lost in the early 10s). Moreso than Camila for right now anyway. You can arguably say that either Camila, Ariana or even Cardi B are the it girls of 2018.Camila and Ariana are big worldwide pop stars and the thing with Ariana is that she has yet to have a #1 hot 100 hit. Camila really doesn’t belong anywhere in the equation. Ariana is an established hit maker and at this point, Camila is still in waters of the Hailee Steinfeld/Dua Lipa’s aka pretty girl with no discernible personality to stand out to the GP, with songs that are bigger than they are themselves. No shade but the “popstar” model is all but dead to the public, which is why the actual current it girl is a rapper. All that aside, this video is amazing. I love the verses but I feel like the chorus could be 10x stronger. But the video itself is a huge moment for her and the first time it felt like I was watching a superstar. Kinda like what Disturbia was for Rihanna.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 18:08:51 GMT -5
I was watching on TV that another artist was going to be on "Problem" instead of Iggy, but she wanted Iggy really bad. I wish she had stuck to the original artist. Who was the other artist? I can understand Ariana's logic though. Iggy was one of the biggest up-and-coming names at the time. The Ariana v. Camila arguments don't make a lot of sense to me; she and Ariana are not in the same 'class' to be turned into rivals like that. Of course Ariana has the better career right now, she's three albums and five years ahead....actually, I am not sure Ariana has a pop peer to be compared to. The only other act I can recall breaking through at around the same time Ariana did is Iggy, but wouldn't have been seen as a direct comparison since she was a rapper (and since she fell off, it's moot).
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Post by Dylan :) on Apr 26, 2018 18:14:59 GMT -5
Ariana always seems to get lumped together with Demi and Selena since they were all Disney/Nick stars, despite them debuting much earlier
I don’t think anyone in downplaying how huge Havana was or how difficult it is to get a #1, however that song alone (her only ‘true solo hit’) is not even close to getting her into the same league as Ariana. As others have pointed out, Problem was extremely close to #1. The line has to be drawn somewhere, and that is whether a song was actually #1 or not, and that is fair. However, I think it is a huge mistake to just assume Havana was bigger because it was #1 and Problem was #2. Havana has also only recently ended its peak chart run so people remember it and how huge it was a lot easier than Problem in 2014, as well as her other hits.
Also, I think Problem is easily her signature hit
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Post by survivorqt on Apr 26, 2018 18:18:18 GMT -5
Ari needs a universally appealing song, her music leans “gay” IMHO
I think a “we belong together” type of ballad would be a big hit right now and the hit she needs
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 18:21:07 GMT -5
Ari dominated pop radio with the My Everything singles, only somewhat weaker end being OLT but it was the final single and thats normal for final singles. Plus Bang bang was just as big for her as well. 2014 was her year for sure
Also imo I think Ari has had far better success than Selena, Demi, & Miley etc At least far more consistent success, the other 3 all struggled at various points (Demi for practically 75% of her career sadly, Selena with Bad Liar & Fetish and her early Scene work, and Miley with the Can't Be Tamed & Younger Now eras)
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Post by Dylan :) on Apr 26, 2018 18:23:51 GMT -5
Ari needs a universally appealing song, her music leans “gay” IMHO How so?
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Post by NeRD on Apr 26, 2018 18:24:12 GMT -5
Truly dying that no one has yet pointed out that having a Hot 100 #1 is difficult to get. Not everybody has that! Far easier when your record company pays radio to play your songs and gives them away to stores. What record company doesn't do these things and then some? Please enlighten me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 18:27:35 GMT -5
Ari needs a universally appealing song, her music leans “gay” IMHO IMO she got a universally appealing song through with One Last Time, far more following Manchester's tragic event. I also don't really see how her music leans "gay" This song itself is an uplifting type of song too
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Post by survivorqt on Apr 26, 2018 18:29:02 GMT -5
Ari needs a universally appealing song, her music leans “gay” IMHO How so? The themes of her music lean more feminine
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Post by NeRD on Apr 26, 2018 18:30:34 GMT -5
Y'all think they'll lift the discount tomorrow?
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Post by Dylan :) on Apr 26, 2018 18:43:50 GMT -5
The themes of her music lean more feminine Outside of her being a female I wouldn’t neccesrily agree, I also don’t get how that makes it “gay” leaning. I’m not denying she doesn’t have a large fanbase of men who happen to be gay, however I don’t think that is neccesarily because of her/her music, and it doesn’t make her music not universally accepted (Sorry if I am coming across as attacking you, I’m not/that isn’t my intention, I am genuinely curious)
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Apr 26, 2018 18:51:25 GMT -5
I think it is a huge mistake to just assume Havana was bigger because it was #1 and Problem was #2. Havana has also only recently ended its peak chart run so people remember it and how huge it was a lot easier than Problem in 2014, as well as her other hits. It really was, that's a fact...but I agree that chart peaks are irrelevant.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 19:01:05 GMT -5
Not sure what we’re talking about but I don’t care.
Has anyone seen or heard from Assad lately? Since this song’s release? I don’t think that’s a coincidence. She is so powerful she might have ended the conflicts in the Middle East... perhaps even globally. Stan.
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