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Post by carrieidol1 on Jun 20, 2018 12:49:59 GMT -5
Maybe Carrie is now seeking those awards that have evaded her for most of this decade. We will probably have a better picture when we hear the second single/the entire album. Uh, what? Carrie is one of the most awarded country artists, especially female, of the last decade and maybe of all time?! How is this even a thought? Well, Carrie certainly has her fair share of awards, but she hasn’t really had much luck in the Single, Song, and Album categories, and of course she has yet to win the coveted CMA Entertainer of the Year trophy. I’m thinking this is what the poster was referring to? |
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Post by stanches2318 on Jun 20, 2018 12:56:10 GMT -5
Maybe Carrie is now seeking those awards that have evaded her for most of this decade. We will probably have a better picture when we hear the second single/the entire album. Uh, what? Carrie is one of the most awarded country artists, especially female, of the last decade and maybe of all time?! How is this even a thought? Look at the CMAs and ACMs: besides the 50th anniversary. The FVOTY has went to Miranda from 2010-2015, 2017 (CMA), 2009-Present (ACM) And before the 50th Show Carrie hadn’t won a CMA since 2008. And she hasn’t won a major ACM award since 2010. Why I don’t know. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Jun 20, 2018 12:58:04 GMT -5
Maybe Carrie is now seeking those awards that have evaded her for most of this decade. We will probably have a better picture when we hear the second single/the entire album. Uh, what? Carrie is one of the most awarded country artists, especially female, of the last decade and maybe of all time?! How is this even a thought? It depends which awards you mean. Obviously she hasn’t won many CMAs in the past decade, or even ACMs, relative to her success/impact. She won those more consistently the first few years of her career. She has continued to win Grammys and CMT Awards, though. |
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Post by stanches2318 on Jun 20, 2018 13:00:44 GMT -5
CMT’s are Fan voted. And the Grammy are picked by there peers I think. So that’s why she has those awards. When they are not voted on by a board of people she seems to win more. lol
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Post by musicfix18 on Jun 20, 2018 13:05:04 GMT -5
Maybe Carrie is now seeking those awards that have evaded her for most of this decade. We will probably have a better picture when we hear the second single/the entire album. Uh, what? Carrie is one of the most awarded country artists, especially female, of the last decade and maybe of all time?! How is this even a thought? I should have been more specific, but I thought "for most of this decade" made it pretty obvious. Yes, she has won a lion's share of awards throughout her career. However, she has yet to win a song/record of the year at the ACMs/CMAs for a song she wrote; she has yet to win Entertainer of the Year at the CMAs; she has yet to win an album of the year since her debut...and don't even get me started on the female vocalist snubs from both CMAs/ACMs for all of the decade save last year. She has yet to receive a country nom for album at the Grammys. Point being I don't think it is that outrageous to think she might have released a riskier lead single to capture the "artistic merit" votes that evaded her previously. |
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Post by desertfloods on Jun 20, 2018 13:22:11 GMT -5
Maybe Carrie is now seeking those awards that have evaded her for most of this decade. We will probably have a better picture when we hear the second single/the entire album. Uh, what? Carrie is one of the most awarded country artists, especially female, of the last decade and maybe of all time?! How is this even a thought? You haven't been following country awards shows closely in recent years, have you? She hasn't had much acclaim at these awards shows for years now. Most the big wins came during the earlier eras. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2018 14:01:42 GMT -5
Maybe Carrie is now seeking those awards that have evaded her for most of this decade. We will probably have a better picture when we hear the second single/the entire album. Uh, what? Carrie is one of the most awarded country artists, especially female, of the last decade and maybe of all time?! How is this even a thought? To be fair though, when over the last decade you have only two main women receiving any kind of attention, she's bound to be among the most awarded women in the last decade. But seriously, she's been robbed of too many Female Vocalist awards (not all of them, but at least 2 or three from both ACMs and CMAs), and CMA Entertainer of the Year for sure. |
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Post by 14887fan on Jun 20, 2018 14:15:49 GMT -5
The CMAs and ACMs are, as noted a million times in the past on here and everywhere else, a direct reflection of the powerful hand that WME carries. Carrie is represented by CAA. Even with a label switch, I don't know that it will make a difference, as she's still with the same talent agency. It was honestly a miracle by all measures that she got nominated for EOTY at the CMAs in 2016.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jun 20, 2018 20:11:48 GMT -5
This isn't performing as well as the typical Carrie Underwood lead single normally performs, but it's not really doing poorly either. As others have stated, it's still one of the quickest rising songs on the chart right now, and I doubt she's in danger of being passed up by anyone behind her, so I see no reason why "Cry Pretty" won't continue to rise and ultimately peak in the Top 3 like everything else she's put out. The album is still a long ways out, too.
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Post by tryexp on Jun 21, 2018 16:04:37 GMT -5
This isn't performing as well as the typical Carrie Underwood lead single normally performs, but it's not really doing poorly either. As others have stated, it's still one of the quickest rising songs on the chart right now, and I doubt she's in danger of being passed up by anyone behind her, so I see no reason why "Cry Pretty" won't continue to rise and ultimately peak in the Top 3 like everything else she's put out. The album is still a long ways out, too. Could it be that the label is just letting it climb slowly to make it last longer, considering the timeline for album release?
I still think they will need to release a second single before the album drops, but if this went straight to the top they might end up with a mid climbing 2nd single as the album is released?
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Post by jenglisbe on Jun 21, 2018 16:15:15 GMT -5
Yeah, as we all know, the country airplay charts are very determined by label politics. With the album release so far off, it seems obvious to me they are letting "Cry Pretty" sort of stabilize after its initial push. Then as the album gets closer, I have no doubt they will make another push. Honestly it's all so disheartening anyway because it doesn't actually mean much for a song to do well at country radio.
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Post by musicfix18 on Jun 26, 2018 12:57:02 GMT -5
Some good news! There are FOUR songs rapidly descending above our future CMA/Grammy Song of the Year. Assuming she isn't passed by any of the peasants behind her, Carrie should be top 8 in two weeks! #top10streakintact
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Post by lady𝓐fan on Jun 26, 2018 16:38:03 GMT -5
#unlikekeithurban 😉 Haha no offense to Keith Urban fans. |
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Post by g8erboi on Jun 26, 2018 17:12:02 GMT -5
I hope the album release in September will give this a new peak on the Hot 100 / Hot Country Songs charts. This song is too good to peak at #48 on the Hot 100 and #5 on Hot Country Songs.
I’m surprised this is not even in the top 100 all-genre on iTunes right now. How does this song NOT stop people in their tracks and make them want to purchase it (or stream it) when they hear it on the radio?
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Post by Carrieufan34 on Jun 29, 2018 15:29:24 GMT -5
Love Carrie, but this song has burned on me very quickly. I thought "Smoke Break" was my least favorite lead single from her, but this might end up taking its place in the long run.  I do agree with the criticism of the artwork for the single and album as well. For a 35-year-old woman, the pink/purple and glittery tears just seem a bit immature, I guess? I will say, however, that I appreciate that she released a more introspective song as a single. She usually keeps the more personal songs as album tracks ("Good in Goodbye", "The Girl You Think I Am", etc) and it's not like she has many of those in her discography to begin with. I just don't see this song giving her the "global superstar" status that they are aiming for. I have a feeling the rest of the album will be much better though. I hope I'm right. I know that this post is over a month & a half old,but when I saw the glitter tears on the cover of the single art & the ACMs,I had a feeling that not a lot of people would be into that whole idea,not to mention that the glitter tears are EXTREMELY immature for someone as successful as Carrie & as highly regarded as she is & for a 35 year old woman,it just comes off as really immature & childish.I have no problems with the colors because they really pop but the glitter tears turned me off immediately.Why does she need to resort to that at this point in her career?I’ve spoken to some women & this song is hitting the sweet spot for them & this is a very feminine song right down to the single cover art,her album cover,her live performances of the song& the music video.So I really don’t know why her marketing team is going so full throttle with the theme.To be honest,it isn’t hitting That sweet spot for me either & I’m probably the demographic that she’s trying to reach with the song.And a lot of them find the glitter tears just as immature & childish as I do.And it’s such a heavy song emotionally that I don’t think radio will latch on to it like they have with her other songs.I just don’t know why they decided to go with such a personal song right off the bat.I spoke to someone that has experience in the music business & they said the songwriting will be on par with what we normally expect from her but that if this song doesn’t go to #1,another song of hers will.There just has to be better songs than this on her album because I’m NOT feeling this one at all. |
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Post by Carrieufan34 on Jun 29, 2018 15:32:14 GMT -5
Leave g8erboi alone. I've already declared this Song of the Decade. Song of the decade?Isn’t that a bit premature?Its a great song but by no means is it a song of the decade when this decade isn’t even over yet!!A bit presumptuous,aren’t you? |
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Post by Carrieufan34 on Jun 29, 2018 15:38:40 GMT -5
I’m already not breathing? It's Carrie. I get that people are excited. But it REALLY takes away from the post itself when every other message is "Yay!"..."Queen is back!"..."Soooo pumped!" I'm all about enthusiasm. But I'm also all about meaningful discussion and not cluttering up what is already going to be a VERY full thread. With that in mind, this will be my last post on that subject. Please come back after queen’s “Cry Pretty,” the next GRAMMY Award-winning Record & Song of the Year, drops. I know that this post is over 2 months old but award winning record of the year & song of the year?Are you crazy?You can talk about titles like that if she gets nominated for those awards,but aren’t you being a bit presumptuous when you throw around things like that when the song hasn’t even been out for 3 months yet?Sorry,but I think you’re getting ahead of yourself there buddy!!Don’t get so smug just yet!! |
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Post by Carrieufan34 on Jun 29, 2018 15:42:56 GMT -5
Let me make sure I understand this. You can already tell this is going to be your favorite song of the year...before you've heard the song...before you've heard the music...and before you've even heard the lyrics??? Ooooookay then. Ummm...yeah? Queen Carrie doesn't disappoint, thank you! So what if the song isn’t such a big hit?Will you be disappointed then?And please stop calling her Queen Carrie,it got old years ago & Queen denotes that you treat her like one & bow down to her when Carrie would probably hate that kind of hero worship!!Queen Elizabeth yes,but Queen Carrie,no.You just don’t throw around titles like that if they don’t mean anything & it’s a title of reverence,not a term to call someone because you feel like it. |
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Post by Carrieufan34 on Jun 29, 2018 15:57:17 GMT -5
Already mentioned it in her album thread, but what excites me the most about this song is that it’s finally a song she wrote and recorded and released that’s about her. Not about a man, or a character, or a murder, or a story. And I know that’s been a gripe that many have had with her catalog, is lack of personality or emotion. It’s really great to see her finally do something in that realm, and with a song that essentially, in its very first verse, says “I’m not a person to really ever show emotion to the world.” I think it’s clear that quite a lot has happened in her world in the last couple of years. It may be her story,but what people have loved about her in the past is her storytelling songs & not everyone wants to hear such personal songs from one of the best storytellers in country music.A lot of people may not want to hear something like that as her first single back.By the way,this song was written before her accident so it was just coincidental that it took on such meaning after her accident and the lyrics mean more now than when she probably first wrote them.It does channel those insecurities and fears she had about coming back into the public eye after being gone for such a long period of time.It is raw,personal & her story and some people may not connect to that as easily. |
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Post by g8erboi on Jun 29, 2018 15:57:45 GMT -5
What is going on...
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Post by matty005 on Jun 29, 2018 16:00:01 GMT -5
Already mentioned it in her album thread, but what excites me the most about this song is that it’s finally a song she wrote and recorded and released that’s about her. Not about a man, or a character, or a murder, or a story. And I know that’s been a gripe that many have had with her catalog, is lack of personality or emotion. It’s really great to see her finally do something in that realm, and with a song that essentially, in its very first verse, says “I’m not a person to really ever show emotion to the world.” I think it’s clear that quite a lot has happened in her world in the last couple of years. It may be her story,but what people have loved about her in the past is her storytelling songs & not everyone wants to hear such personal songs from one of the best storytellers in country music.A lot of people may not want to hear something like that as her first single back.By the way,this song was written before her accident so it was just coincidental that it took on such meaning after her accident and the lyrics mean more now than when she probably first wrote them.It does channel those insecurities and fears she had about coming back into the public eye after being gone for such a long period of time.It is raw,personal & her story and some people may not connect to that as easily. For someone who just responded to 5 consecutive posts with many of them denouncing people’s thoughts on this song, it’s crazy to me that you can just declare to know as fact exactly Carrie’s thoughts and feelings on this song. |
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Post by Carrieufan34 on Jun 29, 2018 16:00:59 GMT -5
I cant wait. I love Carrie's music. I'm really excited to hear this. I like the single cover. You may like the single cover,but I hate it because she’s too accomplished & regarded to use such silly & immature gimmicks to sell her music when her voice & the songwriting should be enough to sell the song on its own merit.She’s 35,why is she using something a 15 year old artist would use to sell their music?Possibly one of her most stupidest marketing ideas & she doesn’t normally have a lot of those!! |
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Post by Carrieufan34 on Jun 29, 2018 16:09:33 GMT -5
Lyrically it’s not horrible but it is lacking. Especially given who wrote it I expected more. I actually hate the vocal production. Maybe it’s just the speakers or something but it sounds like there’s a filter on her but just barely. The rest of the production works though. I hate the “yeah” after she sings “no no no no no no no”, it sounds really out of place. And the ending doesn’t fit the message I was getting from the lyrics. I’m kinda shocked how much I don’t like this. I wanted to like this song so much & it just disappointed me given the fact that 3 of Nashville’s best female songwriters wrote it.You believe the lyrics considering what she went through & her vocal delivery matches the pain & anguish expressed in the song perfectly.Its so personal that I think it may actually turn people off from listening to the song instead of being listened to on repeat.I can’t seem to connect to it much either and I normally relate to her songs really well.It just lacked a hook for me & I couldn’t even listen to it again after I listened to it the first time.It just made me feel severely depressed & keep my emotions in not let them out like she does in the song.I just wanted so much more from this song. |
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Post by 14887fan on Jun 29, 2018 16:13:34 GMT -5
Be mad all you want but “Cry Pretty” is already being touted by many as the catalyst to the global deconstruction of toxic masculinity. Rumor has it she’s being considered for a Nobel Peace Prize. We stan the single of the century.
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Post by matty005 on Jun 29, 2018 16:15:50 GMT -5
Be mad all you want but “Cry Pretty” is already being touted by many as the catalyst to the global deconstruction of toxic masculinity. Rumor has it she’s being considered for a Nobel Peace Prize. We stan the single of the century. #CryPretty2020 |
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Post by carriefan15 on Jun 29, 2018 16:16:17 GMT -5
Well it’s a good thing the general public and radio does not agree with you 😜 almost top 10 now!! On the way to #1.
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Post by Carrieufan34 on Jun 29, 2018 16:22:56 GMT -5
1. I love Cry Pretty. Especially Carrie Underwood's live performance at the A.C.M.s. 2. I expect Cry Pretty to be sitting at #1 in either June or July. Whatever month it hits the top will be the month that the second single is released. 3. I didn't mind the glitter around her eyes for the single cover. However, for the album, it's bothering me. If real tears were used instead of the glitter, it might send a stronger message. Is it really that bad if it doesn’t get to #1?Anything in the top 10 is an accomplishment at this point in her career.I just don’t know how many people will buy the album with the way the glitter tears are being marketed because they are all over EVERYTHING this era,promo materials,her performances,the single cover & fan packages for people to buy.It may have been her idea originally but her label has taken it WAY too far & it runs the risk of turning people off from buying her album.If it had been actual tears instead of these ridiculous glitter tears,it might make a bigger impact.This glitter stuff is just way too silly & immature for a 35 year old woman who doesn’t need this kind of crap to sell her music.Her marketing people really messed up on this one unfortunately. |
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Post by cowboyduck on Jun 29, 2018 16:28:23 GMT -5
I know this forum prefers substantive posts, but I felt compelled to just say... Yikes.
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Post by collinkottke on Jun 29, 2018 16:31:12 GMT -5
I am crying... I am crying very pretty right now.
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Post by Carrieufan34 on Jun 29, 2018 16:36:40 GMT -5
I don't really follow her career that close so, speaking as an "outsider" (LOL), for some reason I was expecting a more "mature" aesthetic for this era. Personally, at this point in her career, the whole Barbie-ish glittery thing seems a bit 'off' as an aesthetic direction. With the label chance I was anticipating something different I guess. I know that this is an old post,but I get your disappointment.I was expecting her to be more “mature” this time around but at this point in her career,the whole glitter tears idea just seems really off even as an artful approach like she said in one interview.It may have been her idea,but I blame her label & the marketing team for taking this WAY too far & certain stans of hers are just literally eating it up & buying into it hook,line & sinker.It just disappoints me that her label is taking her fans for suckers & promoting these stupid fan packages & paying up to $250.00 just for an autographed copy of the song lyrics which the paper it’s on probably isn’t the original sheet they used to write the song.The glitter is Barbie ish & she doesn’t need such a stupid & immature gimmick to sell her music when her voice,the music & the songwriting should be more than enough to sell her music.And I highly doubt Alice Cooper would take the Alice Cooper Barbie comment as a compliment,he would probably find it insulting!! |
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I do agree with the criticism of the artwork for the single and album as well. For a 35-year-old woman, the pink/purple and glittery tears just seem a bit immature, I guess? 
