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Post by Carrieufan34 on Jun 29, 2018 16:42:01 GMT -5
UMG, specifically Capitol Records does this often, I believe Keith’s “Ripcord” had two leading singles before the album came out, and I think Luke and LBT have all had multiples singles out before some of their albums as well. I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure this is the case. We also don’t know how well “Cry Pretty” (the single) will do. Could peak in a month, or it could take months. They may also have major plans with the song before the album comes out... OR they could totally be planning to release another single mid summer to keep the momentum going. My hope is that CP blows up, becomes the song of the summer, which would set Carrie up perfectly for an epic album launch in September. Song of the summer?Are you drunk?Its too heavy & sad to be even considered a song of the summer & as of this post,radio wants happy upbeat songs that people will sing along to with the windows rolled down & Cry Pretty Just isn’t that song,unfortunately.Down the road it may become a career song for her but right now it just doesn’t seem that way to me.Epic album launch?Are you serious?Can you at least wait until the album launches to say how epic of a launch it is? |
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Post by Carrieufan34 on Jun 29, 2018 16:49:46 GMT -5
It's a pretty clear and even obvious concept/equation as you pointed yourself... that's not what I meant as immature or Barbie-ish. It's just the late-2000s teen-pop/glittery execution of that concept that feels a bit "off" to me personally... No need diminish it as being 'a reach' though, it's just an opinion.  I agree. My first thought when I saw the single artwork is that it gave me an Avril Lavigne aesthetic (I did like that one though), and now this album cover (which I don't like at all) looks like she hired whoever always manages to botch Britney Spears' artworks time and time again despite her being a) beautiful and b) having the $$ and pull to get the best graphics team available. I see what they were going for, but the this album cover just looks really cheap and unflattering to me, so I think they missed the mark here. I was expecting the album cover to be a lot more toned down but this just screams cheap & unoriginal.Capitol is such a huge record label & they have the money to get the best graphics team around and they come up with this?Just a HUGE fail on Capitols & UMGs part & just really missed the mark on this one.And Carrie is too beautiful to have such a cheap & unflattering album cover when hers have been so toned down in the past & still looked gorgeous & really just enhanced her natural beauty,this just went too far in the direction of loud & over the top.So I totally get your disappointment here even if this post is 2 months old!!Just so wrong on so many levels. |
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Post by lady𝓐fan on Jun 29, 2018 16:56:39 GMT -5
Carrieufan34 Was 11 posts in one thread in one day necessary? We have to remember that this isn’t a chatroom.
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Post by Carrieufan34 on Jun 29, 2018 17:00:56 GMT -5
Glitter = pretty. Shaped in tear marks around her eyes = crying. 2+2, y’all. Totally get if it’s just not a cover that appeals to you, but the equation of that to being immature/Barbie-ish is a reach. But alright. You must have a huge hard on for Carrie.Glitter is pretty but it’s not so pretty when it’s literally over EVERYTHING like her album cover,her single cover,live performances of the song,fan packages & even on the side of a wall in Nashville.I’m sorry but I find it EXTREMELY immature & childish for a 35 year old woman who is so accomplished & well regarded that she doesn’t need such stupid & immature marketing gimmicks like this.I would expect this from a 15 year old artist,not someone who’s been in the music industry for 13 years& should know better than to use such an over the top gimmick like this.And I’m sorry,but the cover IS Barbie-ish & immature for a 35 year old woman who literally can hit any note effortlessly.I would expect this from an up & coming 15 year old artist,not someone as mature & classy as Carrie is.That isn’t a reach,it’s just someone being honest about an album cover that is just too over the top for my liking.Glitter tears may be 2+2 to you,but to me it’s 2-2 equals 0 because of the glitter tears & the overuse of them.You diminishing that person’s opinion is quite frankly mean & very immature & that isn’t how Carrie would want us treating other people in her fandom no matter if you like their opinion or not. |
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Post by 14887fan on Jun 29, 2018 17:07:22 GMT -5
Kurt Hypothetically, if someone politely requests an admin to remove a user + delete all of their spam posts from a thread...could it be approved? Just wondering.
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Post by Carrieufan34 on Jun 29, 2018 17:09:59 GMT -5
Absolutely love the album cover. It’s gorgeous! Do all of you people have a hard on for Carrie or something?This cover actually takes away from Carrie’s natural beauty & is just WAY over the top for my liking.I personally think the glitter tears concept has been really over used & overstayed it’s welcome.Considering on how many things that the glitter is on,this album cover is just too much & it looks really unoriginal & cheap considering that Capitol would’ve had the money to use the best graphic designers around.I’m afraid that this may turn people OFF from buying the album when they see all that glitter on her & on the album cover.She could’ve done so much better for this cover with just actual tears,not these over the top glitter tears. |
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Post by Carrieufan34 on Jun 29, 2018 17:19:47 GMT -5
I don’t hate the cover, but I don’t love it. I get the glitter tears and the serious look, they’re clearly going very literal here - which is fine. The cover serves its purpose, Carrie looks stunning and it definitely catches your eye. Not that physical sales matter much anymore, but if I were looking through albums at the store, the bright color theme and glittery tears would definitely catch my eye. So from a marketing standpoint, this cover actually works, IMO. Like I’ve said already,the glitter tears actually TAKES away from her natural beauty which should be enhanced,not covered up by pounds of glitter.My fear is that people who were seriously considering buying her music or downloading it take one look at the cover & they might actually find it repulsive,immature & childish & put it back & not buy it.I minor in marketing & even I can see how immature & childish this gimmick is & how a marketing campaign like this would backfire because of the immaturity & childishness of the album cover.I blame her record label for taking her idea WAY too far & missing the mark when it came to How this album is going to be marketed.You may find this next statement crazy.but if people outside of the country genre saw that album cover,they would not take her seriously as an artist & just laugh at the sheer ridiculousness of how she looks on the cover. |
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Post by lady𝓐fan on Jun 29, 2018 17:24:33 GMT -5
Absolutely love the album cover. It’s gorgeous! Do all of you people have a hard on for Carrie or something?This cover actually takes away from Carrie’s natural beauty & is just WAY over the top for my liking.I personally think the glitter tears concept has been really over used & overstayed it’s welcome.Considering on how many things that the glitter is on,this album cover is just too much & it looks really unoriginal & cheap considering that Capitol would’ve had the money to use the best graphic designers around.I’m afraid that this may turn people OFF from buying the album when they see all that glitter on her & on the album cover.She could’ve done so much better for this cover with just actual tears,not these over the top glitter tears. Hey, can you do us all a favor and stop asking if people have “hard ons”? Thanks. |
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Post by Carrieufan34 on Jun 29, 2018 17:28:47 GMT -5
I'm just saying it's like a pink/purple/glittery glam shot. That feels super girly, and yeah, I think that does turn off a lot of listeners. Hate to say it! I actually agree with you here even if this post is 2 months old!!Everything about the colors for this era & the lyrics for Cry Pretty,the album cover,the single cover are super feminine & I personally think it would turn off a straight white male who might like Carrie’s music because those colors are feminine & very girly & it would & probably has turned off a lot of her male & female listeners because how immature & childish her album cover looks because I’ve actually spoken to some females who are turned off by the overuse of glitter & how much it’s used because they all feel it could’ve been toned way down from what it is now.You just don’t see males buying an album cover with pink,purple glittery font because it really isn’t considered manly. |
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Post by musicfix18 on Jun 29, 2018 17:35:44 GMT -5
Kinda sad none of my posts were quoted tbh...out of the hundreds they quoted...really!?
Anyway, can't wait to see this hit the top and stay there for the next year!
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Post by matty005 on Jun 29, 2018 17:36:07 GMT -5
All these replies of basically the same thing is reminding me of Holly from East Tennessee. God bless you and James Otto always.
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Post by Carrieufan34 on Jun 29, 2018 17:37:27 GMT -5
It just humors me to zero f**king end how conversations like these never occur for all of the consistently s**tty and cheap and random covers and artwork for *any* male country act. That is why I threw up a defense on the last page. I couldn’t care less if someone doesn’t like the picture; it’s the blatant double-standard that’s frustrating beyond belief. I have seen these conversations happen in a lot of male artists threads tough. I believe off the top of my head I know Keith Urban's latest got called "creepy", Luke Bryan's single cover for "Light It Up" was criticized for his facial expression, One of Blake Shelton's got criticized for how fake he looked, Chris Young keeps getting criticized for not wearing his cowboy hat anymore. Those are off the top of my head, I know there's others too. This cover while not boring like a lot of country covers (both male and female), does look cheap and kinda ugly to me. I like what they were going for but it was bad execution. I also really dislike her hair color here for some reason. As for it being "girly" I do agree it'll be marginal any effects of it, but it will factor in on some people's purchasing and listening. It's dumb honestly because it's after all just a cover but I've seen it happen irl so I don't doubt it will happen. I do get what they were trying to do with the album cover,& considering that Capitol has money out the freaking wazoo to hire the best graphic designers around,this album cover looks cheap & unattractive & hides instead of enhancing her natural beauty which is a travesty in my opinion.I get the concept they were going for but it was just poorly executed when using her actual tears would’ve made a better impact instead of the glitter tears.It isn’t the hair color I hate but the fact that she’s using extensions that she did before & it’s a look that people have already seen so why do that again?If they had brought out & enhanced her natural beauty & used maybe a little less glitter then maybe the execution would’ve gone better & it wouldn’t seem as ugly or unappealing. |
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Post by lady𝓐fan on Jun 29, 2018 17:39:54 GMT -5
I have seen these conversations happen in a lot of male artists threads tough. I believe off the top of my head I know Keith Urban's latest got called "creepy", Luke Bryan's single cover for "Light It Up" was criticized for his facial expression, One of Blake Shelton's got criticized for how fake he looked, Chris Young keeps getting criticized for not wearing his cowboy hat anymore. Those are off the top of my head, I know there's others too. This cover while not boring like a lot of country covers (both male and female), does look cheap and kinda ugly to me. I like what they were going for but it was bad execution. I also really dislike her hair color here for some reason. As for it being "girly" I do agree it'll be marginal any effects of it, but it will factor in on some people's purchasing and listening. It's dumb honestly because it's after all just a cover but I've seen it happen irl so I don't doubt it will happen. I do get what they were trying to do with the album cover,& considering that Capitol has money out the freaking wazoo to hire the best graphic designers around,this album cover looks cheap & unattractive & hides instead of enhancing her natural beauty which is a travesty in my opinion.I get the concept they were going for but it was just poorly executed when using her actual tears would’ve made a better impact instead of the glitter tears.It isn’t the hair color I hate but the fact that she’s using extensions that she did before & it’s a look that people have already seen so why do that again?If they had brought out & enhanced her natural beauty & used maybe a little less glitter then maybe the execution would’ve gone better & it wouldn’t seem as ugly or unappealing. OMG. Stop. We need moderators before this thread devolves into complete chaos (if it hasn’t already). |
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Post by Carrieufan34 on Jun 29, 2018 17:44:33 GMT -5
In my opinion it doesn’t matter what the cover looks like because it depends on the material that is being made by any singer. If I like the material I will buy the album no matter what the cover looks like. I go by the songs not album cover. And that's the right way to do things, image shouldn't matter. But the point I'm making is that there are people out there who'll be turned off by the cover. I just asked my co-workers (both straight males) their thoughts on it and they said it looks too young for them first, then they felt like it's going to be all sad songs about girl things so they don't know if they'd really give it a second look. That was my fear when I saw the cover that a casual country listener or a male listener would see that cover & they think all of the songs are going to be sad & be about girly things so that would probably make want to buy it less after seeing the album cover & forming that opinion.If they saw that cover,they would put it down & not buy it because of those two factors. |
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Post by Juan Carlos on Jun 29, 2018 17:45:46 GMT -5
I'm just going to lock temporarily this thread until staff decides what to do with a certain poster.
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Post by Juan Carlos on Jul 1, 2018 16:40:20 GMT -5
The thread has been unlocked.
Anyway, this is a reminder that if any of you find any problematic post(s), where personal attacks are included, please report them, so any of us could handle this instead of derailing the thread even further replying to them. Also, I expect the discussion to be backed on topic because there won't be more posts from that poster, so I hope any of you aren't going to quote them.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Jul 1, 2018 17:27:35 GMT -5
So glad to see this top 10 at country. Her streak remains!
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Post by onebuffalo on Jul 1, 2018 17:32:38 GMT -5
So glad to see this top 10 at country. Her streak remains! Personally, I wasn't worried about Carrie Underwood's top ten streak ending anytime soon. This is her debut single for Capitol and I expected great results of this single and upcoming album. |
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Post by musicfix18 on Jul 1, 2018 20:17:23 GMT -5
I thoroughly enjoy watching Carrie's live performances of any song, but this song in particular really...gets me. As many others have said, her emotions and power really resonate in this song. I am not sure I see this hitting #1 on the airplay charts now, but I think making radio top 10 in this sales/radio/pop culture climate (esp. country) really is amazing.
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Post by ILLUSION on Jul 4, 2018 9:29:02 GMT -5
Wow, this miraculously made it's way into the Top 10 and had a +100 update today.
Can we share real opinions on one thing though...do you think payola is a thing here? The song has been inching up and is now suddenly getting big updates now that it was/is approaching the top 10? As honest fans, do you think? I mean, Carrie is already a country legend basically so it's not going to really matter tbh but I just find it a little too interesting. I feel like if this was any other female, it wouldn't have made top 10.
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Post by g8erboi on Jul 4, 2018 9:43:32 GMT -5
It could just be getting top 10 conversions on a handful of stations that are trying to catch up.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 4, 2018 9:48:05 GMT -5
Wow, this miraculously made it's way into the Top 10 and had a +100 update today. Can we share real opinions on one thing though...do you think payola is a thing here? The song has been inching up and is now suddenly getting big updates now that it was/is approaching the top 10? As honest fans, do you think? I mean, Carrie is already a country legend basically so it's not going to really matter tbh but I just find it a little too interesting. I feel like if this was any other female, it wouldn't have made top 10. This is pretty normal for songs to slow down a little on the cusp of Top 10 and then pick back up again as they pick up spins from songs falling ahead of them. Her song has been moving more slowly by her standards, but it's not suspicious for a Carrie Underwood song to be posting strong gains as it reaches the Top 10. |
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Post by raylatch98 on Jul 4, 2018 9:52:22 GMT -5
I hope the album release in September will give this a new peak on the Hot 100 / Hot Country Songs charts. This song is too good to peak at #48 on the Hot 100 and #5 on Hot Country Songs. I’m surprised this is not even in the top 100 all-genre on iTunes right now. How does this song NOT stop people in their tracks and make them want to purchase it (or stream it) when they hear it on the radio? I actually can kinda see why this isn't the hottest seller. Everytime I've heard this song, I like it but by about the final chorus, it starts to grate on me a bit as the song feels a little stretched out for me. |
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Post by matty005 on Jul 4, 2018 10:10:54 GMT -5
Wow, this miraculously made it's way into the Top 10 and had a +100 update today. Can we share real opinions on one thing though...do you think payola is a thing here? The song has been inching up and is now suddenly getting big updates now that it was/is approaching the top 10? As honest fans, do you think? I mean, Carrie is already a country legend basically so it's not going to really matter tbh but I just find it a little too interesting. I feel like if this was any other female, it wouldn't have made top 10. Like others have said, this isn’t that uncommon once a song reaches top 10. Also, we have plenty of people in this community who give unbiased chart predictions/thoughts etc. This isn’t just all Carrie fans who post in this thread. Hence why I think this is the best place to get your information. :) |
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Post by nick64 on Jul 4, 2018 13:05:42 GMT -5
Yeah this was an underwhelming single. It sounds good, but it never really stuck with me and I got bored of it quickly. Still hope it can keep up her Top 3 streak though.
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Post by Marv on Jul 4, 2018 13:35:11 GMT -5
You should also keep in mind that the nearly-simultaneous releases of new singles from no less than FOUR other format megastars over the past seven weeks essentially took the wind out of the sails and the upward chart momentum of tons of singles from Carrie and other artists. Those superstar releases (FGL/Luke/Sam and the Jason/Miranda collaboration) impacted everybody, Carrie included.
And as others have stated, it's entirely normal for some singles by superstars to slow down dramatically as they approach the top ten while others soar to #1 in less than the 12-15 week run to #1 window of superstar-level singles starting with that Chesney fella.
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Post by 14887fan on Jul 4, 2018 14:25:56 GMT -5
Nothing miraculous about this making Top 10. Won’t be anything miraculous about it making Top 5, Top 3, and maybe even #1, when each of those things happen. It’s Carrie, it’s a lead single, it’s her first release with UMG, it’s a “comeback” single of sorts, and she’s literally the *only* woman who’s guaranteed to have a solid, fighting shot at consistently excelling at country radio. Not every song needs to rocket to #1. Most of them won’t.
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Post by straitouttanashville on Jul 10, 2018 0:31:57 GMT -5
Nothing miraculous about this making Top 10. Won’t be anything miraculous about it making Top 5, Top 3, and maybe even #1, when each of those things happen. It’s Carrie, it’s a lead single, it’s her first release with UMG, it’s a “comeback” single of sorts, and she’s literally the *only* woman who’s guaranteed to have a solid, fighting shot at consistently excelling at country radio. Not every song needs to rocket to #1. Most of them won’t. I read 27 straight singles for Carrie have made top 10. Congrats to her,that is pretty impressive. |
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Post by bboat11 on Jul 10, 2018 0:48:24 GMT -5
Nothing miraculous about this making Top 10. Won’t be anything miraculous about it making Top 5, Top 3, and maybe even #1, when each of those things happen. It’s Carrie, it’s a lead single, it’s her first release with UMG, it’s a “comeback” single of sorts, and she’s literally the *only* woman who’s guaranteed to have a solid, fighting shot at consistently excelling at country radio. Not every song needs to rocket to #1. Most of them won’t. I read 27 straight singles for Carrie have made top 10. Congrats to her,that is pretty impressive. Not just top 10. Top 3! (Should be a top 2 streak, but "Something In The Water" ran into bad timing and got stuck at #3). To be coming up on 12-13 years in the business and have only missed the top 2 barely one time, shows you just how impressive her career truly is. |
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