Billboard Hot 100: 4/21/2018

[renaboss]

I honestly don't even understand how songs go recurrent.

Also, ugh that "Whatever It Takes" STILL hasn't made top 20.

[singingrulebritannia]

Apr 16, 2018 17:20:03 GMT -5 𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿 said:

Whatever It Takes still not made Top 20. :'(

Well of course it hasn't, there's no major network-TV sports event being broadcast at the moment

[iHype.]

Apr 16, 2018 8:07:55 GMT -5 Gary said:

Apr 16, 2018 1:07:37 GMT -5 garrettlen said:

I have.   And there have been plenty of bad #1's in every decade since the 50's.

I have as well

For this discussion, we should remember what a #1 song actually is.

It is #1 and most popular for the week in time it represents.  For that week the biggest song in the country.   Being a # song does not necessarily elevate the song above others for all time.

In many cases the #1 song got to #1 because it was the right song for the pop culture, fads, styles and events of the day.  In most cases, what is popular today will not be popular tomorrow.  Styles change, opinions change, times change, many songs do not hold up well over time simply because they were written for the time they became popular.

So it is no wonder that in this thread and its companion thread in YOP, dozens of songs are being mentioned.

Apr 16, 2018 9:51:32 GMT -5 renfield75 said:

Apr 15, 2018 23:10:05 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Has anyone here heard every single Hot 100 #1?

I'd think that'd be interesting, and I'd love to hear the opinion of worst #1 from someone who actually has.

I have, that's why I said "Mr. Custer". There are crappy number ones from every era though...those novelties from the 50s and 60s, bland generic ballads from the mid 70s and 80s, those simple tuneless songs from the mid 00s hip-hop domination, the generic dance tunes from the turbo-pop days. We only remember the good stuff and the bad/forgettable songs are eventually lost to time.

Apr 16, 2018 10:40:02 GMT -5 jebsib said:

I own and know them all. “Disco Duck” gets my vote. But it’s all subjective - millions loved it back in its day. And they would have thought “God’s Plan” was a joke it was so bad. So it really depends on context.

I did not realize that many people had heard every Hot 100 #1. 

Y'all have encouraged me to get my knowledge up lol.

[iHype.]

Apr 16, 2018 17:20:03 GMT -5 𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿 said:

Alone debuts YAYYYYY

Bad At Love & Alone are the best 2 consecutive singles in awhile imo. 

I REALLY hope somehow Alone takes off!

[Au$tin]

Apr 16, 2018 17:22:54 GMT -5 renaboss said:

I honestly don't even understand how songs go recurrent.

If a song has been on the chart for 20 weeks, is losing points, and is below #50, it will be removed. OR
If a song has been on the chart for 52 weeks, is losing points, and is below #25, it will be removed.

[tanooki]

Famous Dex - Japan #29 (+24) 
Ella Mai - Boo'd Up #72 (+6)

Source: Artist Chart History

[rimetm]

100 NE Alone

92 NE Chun-Li

83 NE Barbie Tingz

72 78 Boo'd Up

65 NE A$AP Forever
64 57 IDGAF

62 NE One Kiss

59 NE Diamond Teeth Samurai
58 NE Moneybag
57 NE She Bad

54 46 Delicate

50 NE Thru Your Phone

43 NE Bickenhead

39 NE Best Life
38 NE Get Up 10

32 51 Bartier Cardi

29 53 Japan
28 NE Ring

23 NE I Do
22 23 Whatever It Takes
21 NE Drip
20 04 Call Out My Name

16 11 Havana
15 14 Never Be the Same
14 12 Mine

12 10 Walk It Talk It
11 16 Be Careful
10 08 Finesse
09 09 Freaky Friday
08 NE I Like It
07 07 Perfect
06 06 The Middle
05 05 Look Alive
04 03 Psycho
03 02 Meant to Be
02 01 God's Plan
01 NE Nice for What

Off the Chart (Incomplete list)
XX 100 Focus
XX 99 Get You
XX 98 NBAYoungboat
XX 97 Beautiful Trauma
XX 95 La Modelo
XX 94 Woman, Amen
XX 92 Take Back Home Girl
XX 89 OKRA
XX 88 Tempo
XX 87 No Smoke
XX 86 Say Amen (Saturday Night)
XX 52 Privilege
XX 43 Hurt You
XX 35 I Was Never There

Going Recurrent
RC 93 Written in the Sand [20 Weeks]
RC 91 Echame la Culpa [20 Weeks]
RC 48 Lemon [22 Weeks]

Source: Chart History, Livestream, Gary Tweets, and ChartData

[hot100predictions]

Message About Ariana:
As many of you in our discussion now know, Ariana Grande is reportedly expected to release her lead single from her upcoming album called, 'No Tears Left To Cry' either this Friday (4/20) or next Friday (4/27). It is very clear from the title that Grande will be explaining her experience and her emotions about the horrific attack that took place at her concert in Manchester last May. However, the problem with Grande releasing this Friday is that it will come at a time that Drake is continuing to dominate the charts with both God's Plan and now Nice For What. But if Ariana releases a music video, gets hourly radio promotion from iHeartRadio and has very high vocals similar to some of Whitney, Adele and Mariah Carey's stuff, she will likely not have any problems at least with the streaming mechanism of her songs. Ariana won't have to worry about iTunes as she should dominate, unlike how Nicki struggled even though she hit #1 on iTunes with Chun Li. Another good point that brings up is that Nicki struggled however with no radio promotion as of yet, I doubt that was her lead singles for NM4. But coming back to Ariana, if everything complies together, she should sell about 90k or so copies of her single as well as getting 30M streams in her first week, without radio she would likely have a #5-11 debut, with radio likely helping her scenario, this would likely boost her debut position to #4-7. I just don't think unless it's something crazy with Drake dominating like he is Ariana won't be able to get a hot shot debut at #1. Also, I'm concerned that with Post and Drake releasing one week after and with Drake's new and obviously highly anticipated album, Scorpion, that Ariana might not get her #1. So Ariana needs all the possible support she can get in her first week before Post comes to dominate the following week of 4/27. Also ARIANA NEEDS TO PROMOTE EVERY DAY STARTING TOMORROW OR WEDNESDAY ON SOCIAL MEDIA TO GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT HER SINGLE COMING POSSIBLY AS SOON AS THIS FRIDAY!!

[renfield75]

Ariana is not going to be number one, unless she's HUGE out of the gate and "Nice For What" completely crashes and burns. And I don't think that will happen. Backstreet Boys, One Direction, Nicki Minaj, Selena Gomez, and Demi Lovato have never had number one singles either, it's okay.

[forg]

Final week in the top 10 for Finesse. Kinda funny the best candidate for Bruno's first ever #2 peaking song still didn't make it

Perfect's staying power is impressive!

[Gary]

I agree - The chart at the top will be about Drake for a while. Everyone else will be looking up the chart from below, including Ariana

[jenglisbe]

Apr 16, 2018 5:36:00 GMT -5 renaboss said:

Also not big on the two #1's by the Staple Singers, "I'll Take You There" and "Let's Do It Again". Hard to believe so many forgettable acts had multiple #1's when the likes of ABBA, Aerosmith, James Taylor or, heck, even Miley Cyrus, only had one apiece - let's not even get into the many legends who could never hit the top. 

From an objective standpoint, The Staple Singers are anything but "forgettable." They're in the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame!

[Gary]

Yvonne Staples died last week

[Au$tin]

Ariana drops 4/27, that is absolutely happening, it's been confirmed. There's no "or this date" about it.

Post Malone is also dropping his album that same day.

Ariana stands zero chance with that happening. Psycho will go #1 that week, not Ariana.

[iHype.]

I said this in another thread a month ago, but with streaming I think the whole "#1 debut" achievement will water down. 

Down the line I think most #1 hits will start at #1. It makes sense as streaming has allowed the entire public to access music quicker than ever before, and for a song to literally become the most popular overnight. Technological advancement. 

Shape of You, Perfect, God's Plan, Nice for What, Look What You Made Me Do, and I'm the One all debuted #1 (or went directly to #1 following a new remix) the past year. And Humble along with Rockstar debuted #2. 

Perhaps we could be seeing similar to what happened to Billboard 200 after Soundscan. (Most #1 albums debut #1 and the #1 debut's either stick or drop like a rock.) Maybe labels will start treating singles like album campaigns where they focus dominantly on the debut week -- late era singles start commonly getting huge radio premieres/deals, superstar remixes, performances, etc during first week to take off (Finesse Remix, Perfect Remix).

[85la]

I think Ariana making her lead single about the Manchester event is a bad idea. I can see how the intent of that would be to pay respects to what happened, but it can also be seen as using that tragedy as part of her marketing campaign to launch the new era, which could be seen as somewhat crass. She can absolutely have one or several tracks on the album be tributes to the tragedy, but as the lead single? I don't know. I personally think that Manchester will actually not affect her career that much in either a positive or negative way from now on, and that her recording career is separate from that and the music will have to speak for itself.

[kcdawg13]

I do think Ariana has a large chance at a Top 5 debut, but I think #1 is out of the question. Maybe in a weaker week but she's releasing in a very busy period where two streaming juggernauts are dropping material.

[jtd Thee Stallion]

J Cole album dropping this Friday as well

[Enigma.]

Cardi slaying with all those top 40 debuts, rightfully so!

[willapted33]

glad to see ASAP Forever debuting so high

also Cole's album will make a massive splash on the Hot 100, considering 4YEO was pretty much as boring (in a sense) as Cole could get and it still got an album bomb. imagine if Cole drops some 2014 FHD type sh!t on us

[Enigma.]

I think the hype around J. Cole has died a long time ago? But we'll see

[willapted33]

J Cole's album announcement tweet already has more re-tweets than Post Malone's... in 9 hours...

[Glove Slap]

Apr 17, 2018 4:56:41 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

I think the hype around J. Cole has died a long time ago? But we'll see

He definitely still has an extremely strong fanbase, and should see strong sales in addition to streams. It's just that the last project dipped out of popular view fairly early, especially compared to the one before that which is still charting, but it had a very strong opening of 492k (second biggest streaming boost of that year behind Drake), 363k of which were sales, and all the tracks entered the top 40 on the Hot 100. He should beat Justin Timberlake's 293k SPS entrance fairly easily imo, and will hold it until Drake (Post Malone may get higher streams the following week, but his sales will be far lower).

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

"Friends" predicted to be in the top 20, but somehow dropped to #34. O__O

[Deleted]

Apr 17, 2018 6:27:57 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

"Friends" predicted to be in the top 20, but somehow dropped to #34. O__O

oof

billboard really needs to stop forgetting about formats

[leonagwen]

Apr 16, 2018 22:54:38 GMT -5 85la said:

I think Ariana making her lead single about the Manchester event is a bad idea. I can see how the intent of that would be to pay respects to what happened, but it can also be seen as using that tragedy as part of her marketing campaign to launch the new era, which could be seen as somewhat crass. She can absolutely have one or several tracks on the album be tributes to the tragedy, but as the lead single? I don't know. I personally think that Manchester will actually not affect her career that much in either a positive or negative way from now on, and that her recording career is separate from that and the music will have to speak for itself.

It would work in the UK but not in the Usa.

[areyoureadytojump]

4/21 Billboard Hot 100

TW LW 2W WOC Title Artist Imprint | label

1 Hot Shot Debut 1 Nice For What - Drake - Young Money/Cash Money | Republic
2 1 1 12 God's Plan - Drake - Young Money/Cash Money | Republic
3 2 2 25 Meant To Be - Bebe Rexha & Florida Georgia Line - Warner Bros. | BMLG
4 3 4 7 Psycho - Post Malone Featuring Ty Dolla $ign - Republic
5 5 6 9 Look Alive - BlocBoy JB Featuring Drake - OVO Sound | Warner Bros.
6 6 7 11 The Middle - Zedd, Maren Morris & Grey - Interscope
7 7 5 33 Perfect - Ed Sheeran - Atlantic
8 New 1 I Like It - Cardi B, Bad Bunny & J Balvin - The KSR Group | Atlantic
9 9 8 4 Freaky Friday - Lil Dicky Featuring Chris Brown - Dirty Burd/BMG | Commission
10 8 3 15 Finesse - Bruno Mars & Cardi B - Atlantic
11 16 – 2 Be Careful - Cardi B - The KSR Group | Atlantic
12 10 15 11 Walk It Talk It - Migos Featuring Drake - Quality Control/Motown | Capitol
13 13 18 9 Plug Walk - Rich The Kid - Rich Forever | Interscope
14 12 11 12 Mine - Bazzi - ZZZ/iamcosmic | Atlantic
15 14 14 17 Never Be The Same - Camila Cabello - SYCO | Epic
16 11 10 35 Havana - Camila Cabello Featuring Young Thug - SYCO | Epic
17 15 12 10 Pray For Me - The Weeknd & Kendrick Lamar - Top Dawg/Aftermath/Republic | Interscope
18 18 9 6 Sad! - XXXTENTACION - Bad Vibes Forever
19 17 13 16 Stir Fry - Migos - Quality Control/Motown | Capitol
20 4 – 2 Call Out My Name - The Weeknd - XO | Republic
21 New 1 Drip - Cardi B Featuring Migos - The KSR Group | Atlantic
22 23 23 11 Whatever It Takes - Imagine Dragons - KIDinaKORNER | Interscope
23 New 1 I Do - Cardi B Featuring SZA - The KSR Group | Atlantic
24 21 21 30 Rockstar - Post Malone Featuring 21 Savage - Republic
25 19 16 14 All The Stars - Kendrick Lamar & SZA - Top Dawg/Aftermath | Interscope

26 20 17 24 Ric Flair Drip - Offset & Metro Boomin - Boominati/Quality Control/Motown/Slaughter Gang | Republic/Capitol/Epic
27 22 20 37 New Rules - Dua Lipa - Warner Bros.
28 New 1 Ring - Cardi B Featuring Kehlani - The KSR Group | Atlantic
29 53 70 3 Japan - Famous Dex - Rich Forever | 300
30 28 28 16 Heaven - Kane Brown - Zone 4 | RCA Nashville
31 24 19 26 Let You Down - NF - NF Real Music/Capitol | Caroline
32 51 47 16 Bartier Cardi - Cardi B Featuring 21 Savage - The KSR Group | Atlantic
33 29 24 50 Thunder - Imagine Dragons - KIDinaKORNER | Interscope
34 25 30 9 Friends - Marshmello & Anne-Marie - Joytime Collective/Asylum | Warner Bros.
35 30 26 13 Wait - Maroon 5 - 222 | Interscope
36 34 38 6 Powerglide - Rae Sremmurd & Juicy J - Eardrumma | Interscope
37 31 22 4 In My Blood - Shawn Mendes - Island | Republic
38 New 1 Get Up 10 - Cardi B - The KSR Group | Atlantic
39 New 1 Best Life - Cardi B Featuring Chance The Rapper - The KSR Group | Atlantic
40 38 32 43 Feel It Still - Portugal. The Man - Atlantic
41 36 34 11 You Make It Easy - Jason Aldean - Macon | Broken Bow
42 37 33 11 Say Something - Justin Timberlake Featuring Chris Stapleton - RCA
43 New 1 Bickenhead - Cardi B - The KSR Group | Atlantic
44 32 25 19 Him & I - G-Eazy & Halsey - G-Eazy/RVG/BPG | RCA
45 33 27 27 Lights Down Low - MAX Featuring gnash - DCD2/Crush Music | RED
46 39 29 29 I Fall Apart - Post Malone - Republic
47 40 31 13 King's Dead - Jay Rock, Kendrick Lamar, Future & James Blake - Top Dawg/Aftermath | Interscope
48 42 37 32 Bad At Love - Halsey - Astralwerks | Capitol
49 41 42 11 New Freezer - Rich The Kid Featuring Kendrick Lamar - Rich Forever | Interscope
50 New 1 Thru Your Phone - Cardi B - The KSR Group | Atlantic

51 50 50 10 Singles You Up - Jordan Davis - MCA Nashville
52 54 40 13 Outside Today - YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Never Broke Again | Atlantic
53 55 55 6 No Excuses - Meghan Trainor - Epic
54 46 52 5 Delicate - Taylor Swift - Big Machine | Republic
55 44 35 19 Marry Me - Thomas Rhett - Valory
56 56 49 8 Love Lies - Khalid & Normani - Fox | RCA
57 New 1 She Bad - Cardi B & YG - The KSR Group | Atlantic
58 New 1 Money Bag - Cardi B - The KSR Group | Atlantic
59 New 1 Diamond Teeth Samurai - YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Never Broke Again | Atlantic
60 49 46 11 Most People Are Good - Luke Bryan - Capitol Nashville
61 47 51 6 X - Nicky Jam x J Balvin - La Industria | Sony Music Latin
62 New 1 One Kiss - Calvin Harris & Dua Lipa - Columbia
63 27 – 2 Wasted Times - The Weeknd - XO | Republic
64 57 54 13 IDGAF - Dua Lipa - Warner Bros.
65 New 1 A$AP Forever - A$AP Rocky Featuring Moby - A$AP Worldwide/Polo Grounds | RCA
66 58 39 6 Changes - XXXTENTACION - Bad Vibes Forever
67 61 65 5 Zombie - Bad Wolves - Eleven Seven | E7LG
68 60 57 7 Billy - 6ix9ine - ScumGang | TenThousand Projects
69 62 59 20 Tell Me You Love Me - Demi Lovato - Hollywood/Safehouse/Island | Republic
70 59 53 10 Dura - Daddy Yankee - El Cartel | UMLE
71 65 68 10 The Long Way - Brett Eldredge - Atlantic | WMN
72 78 – 2 Boo'd Up - Ella Mai - 10 Summers | Interscope
73 63 63 11 El Farsante - Ozuna & Romeo Santos - DimeloVi/VP Entertainment | Sony Music Latin
74 26 – 2 Try Me - The Weeknd - XO | Republic
75 67 73 4 One Number Away - Luke Combs - River House | Columbia Nashville

76 69 67 6 Everyday - Logic & Marshmello - Visionary | Def Jam
77 66 74 5 Tequila - Dan + Shay - Warner Bros. Nashville | WAR
78 71 48 4 Moonlight - XXXTENTACION - Bad Vibes Forever
79 72 78 4 Sit Next To Me - Foster The People - Columbia
80 73 76 9 I Like Me Better - Lauv - Lauv | AWAL-Kobalt
81 74 80 5 Sativa - Jhene Aiko Featuring Swae Lee Or Rae Sremmurd - ARTclub/ARTium | Def Jam
82 64 58 20 Broken Halos - Chris Stapleton - Mercury Nashville
83 New 1 Barbie Tingz - Nicki Minaj - Young Money/Cash Money | Republic
84 68 61 10 Hardaway - Derez De'Shon - Derez De'Shon/Commission | BMG
85 New 1 Get Along - Kenny Chesney - Blue Chair/Warner Bros. Nashville | WEA
86 45 – 2 Medicine - Queen Naija - Queen Naija
87 79 81 7 She's With Me - High Valley - Atlantic | WEA
88 83 86 3 Up Down - Morgan Wallen Featuring Florida Georgia Line - BMLG/Big Loud
89 76 72 19 Five More Minutes - Scotty McCreery - Triple Tigers
90 70 66 6 Top Off - DJ Khaled Featuring JAY Z, Future & B - We The Best | Epic
91 80 82 15 When We - Tank - R&B Money | Atlantic
92 New 1 Chun-Li - Nicki Minaj - Young Money/Cash Money | Republic
93 75 62 20 All On Me - Devin Dawson - Atlantic | WEA
94 77 69 14 Red Roses - Lil Skies Featuring Landon Cube - All We Got | Atlantic
95 81 83 6 I Lived It - Blake Shelton - Warner Bros. Nashville | WMN
96 84 100 3 No Roots - Alice Merton - Paper Plane | Mom + Pop
97 82 – 3 Broken Clocks - SZA - Top Dawg | RCA
98 90 95 3 For The First Time - Darius Rucker - Capitol Nashville
99 96 – 2 Proud - 2 Chainz Featuring YG & Offset - The Real University | Def Jam
100 New 1 Alone - Halsey Featuring Big Sean & Stefflon Don - Astralwerks | Capitol

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^Interesting count of bulleted songs that are not debuts in terms of position change: 7 rising, 6 steady and 6 with backward bullets. Also, as expected, no non-bulleted rising songs.

[Gary]

Nicki Minaj's 'Barbie Tingz' & 'Chun-Li' Debut on Billboard Hot 100

News

By Xander Zellner | April 17, 2018 7:51 AM EDT


The tracks arrive at Nos. 83 and 92, respectively, after one day of streaming and sales tracking.

Nicki Minaj makes her 2018 solo debut on the Billboard Hot 100, as her two new releases, "Barbie Tingz" and "Chun-Li," open at Nos. 83 and 92, respectively, on the chart (dated Apr. 21). The songs enter the Hot 100 after only one day of streaming and sales tracking and four days of radio airplay monitoring.

"Tingz" earned 4.2 million U.S. streams and sold 21,000 downloads in the week ending April 12, following its release that day, according to Nielsen Music. "Chun-Li" logged 3.5 million clicks and sold 20,000 downloads.

Both tracks concurrently debut on the Digital Song Sales chart, at Nos. 13 and 16, respectively.

"Chun-Li" additionally garnered 8.5 million all-format radio audience impressions in the week ending April 15, while "Tingz" drew 7.5 million.

Both tracks are likely to see a sizable gain on next week's Hot 100 (dated April 28), as that chart will encompass the song's first full week of tracking. (Streaming and sales run on a Friday through Thursday tracking cycle, while airplay runs Monday through Sunday.)

Minaj has now earned 86 total entries on the Hot 100, dating back to her first, "Knockout," with Lil Wayne, in 2010. She extends her record for most total Hot 100 appearances among women in the chart's 59-year history (ahead of Taylor Swift's 76), and continues to sport the eighth-most entries among all acts.

As previously reported, Drake replaces himself atop the April 21-dated Hot 100, as his new single "Nice for What" debuts at No. 1, stopping the reign of his own "God's Plan" after 11 weeks on top.

[Gary]

Bubbling Under


This Week Last Week Two Weeks Ago Weeks Title, Artist Peak
1 5 9 7 #1 1 wks Everything's Gonna Be Alright , David Lee Murphy & Kenny Chesney 1
2 2 8 3 Rover 2.0 , BlocBoy JB Featuring 21 Savage 2
3 10 11 4 Mercy , Brett Young 3
4 7 13 4 Reckless Love , Cory Asbury 4
5 0 New 1 Cry Pretty , Carrie Underwood 5
6 0 New 1 Hard 2 Face Reality , Poo Bear Featuring Justin Bieber & Jay Electronica 6
7 6 12 4 Icy Grl , Saweetie 6
8 9 6 9 Scooby Doo Pa Pa , DJ Kass 2
9 8 10 6 Me Niego , Reik Featuring Ozuna & Wisin 7
10 18 7 10 Bounce Out With That , YBN Nahmir 1
11 13 17 3 I Was Jack (You Were Diane) , Jake Owen 11
12 4 – 2 Lost It , Rich The Kid Featuring Offset & Quavo 4
13 1 – 2 Bad Company , A$AP Rocky Featuring BlocBoy JB 1
14 17 22 8 Freestyle , Lil Baby 14
15 19 21 4 Sober Up , AJR Featuring Rivers Cuomo 15
16 14 14 9 These Days , Rudimental Featuring Jess Glynne, Macklemore & Dan Caplen 5
17 20 16 5 Ones That Like Me , Brantley Gilbert 16
18 0 New 1 Pineapple , Ty Dolla $ign Featuring Gucci Mane & Quavo 18
19 25 – 2 Hard , No Jumper Featuring Tay-K And BlocBoy JB 19
20 0 New 1 Welcome To The Rodeo , Lil Skies 20
21 23 20 4 Trust Fund Baby , Why Don't We 20
22 0 Re-Entry 2 Get To You , Michael Ray 22
23 16 – 4 Amorfoda , Bad Bunny 7
24 0 New 1 She Ain't In It , Jon Pardi 24
25 0 Re-Entry 2 You Are The Reason , Calum Scott & Leona Lewis 23