Billboard Hot 100: 5/5/2018

[MusicTalker]

Hmm yeah these amount of songs charting from 1 album is getting a little ridiculous lol.

[tanooki]

Since 5/13/2017 (the week after Humble hit #1), hip-hop has been #1 49.05% of the time
That's What I Like - 1 week
I'm the One - 1 week
Despacito - 16 weeks
Look What You Made Me Do - 3 weeks
Bodak Yellow - 3 weeks
Rockstar - 8 weeks
Perfect - 6 weeks
Havana - 1 week
God's Plan - 11 weeks
Nice For What - 3 weeks

From 5/7/16 to 5/6/17 (one year before above), hip hop dominated the chart 43.39% of the time
Panda - 2 weeks
One Dance - 10 weeks
Can't Stop the Feeling - 1 week
Cheap Thrills - 4 weeks
Closer - 12 weeks
Black Beatles - 7 weeks
Starboy - 1 week
Bad and Boujee - 3 weeks
Shape of You - 12 weeks
Humble - 1 week

A 13.04% increase in hip hop dominance since Humble.

[Au$tin]

In an age where even album tracks can become popular and have staying power, I find it ridiculous to limit what can and can't chart because of "clutter." Several Migos and XXX tracks lasted more than 1-3 weeks, Cardi B is about to have a few linger in the bottom, and given J. Cole's streaming prowess, he'll snag a few as well. So will Post Malone.

We also need to realize the Hot 100 has never and will never how a song does over and period other than a week. There have plenty of singles that were here today, gone tomorrow. Why should album tracks be treated differently? They were super popular this week and the chart reflects that accurately and perfectly.

Also, if this were a white pop girl y'all wouldn't be complaining.

[velaxti]

Apr 30, 2018 21:11:35 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

In an age where even album tracks can become popular and have staying power, I find it ridiculous to limit what can and can't chart because of "clutter." Several Migos and XXX tracks lasted more than 1-3 weeks, Cardi B is about to have a few linger in the bottom, and given J. Cole's streaming prowess, he'll snag a few as well. So will Post Malone.

We also need to realize the Hot 100 has never and will never how a song does over and period other than a week. There have plenty of singles that were here today, gone tomorrow. Why should album tracks be treated differently? They were super popular this week and the chart reflects that accurately and perfectly.

Also, if this were a white pop girl y'all wouldn't be complaining.

We even had an album track spend 20 weeks on the Hot 100 and go recurrent before!

Big Rings by Drake & Future: www.billboard.com/music/drake/chart-history/hot-100/song/938506

[jenglisbe]

Apr 30, 2018 21:11:35 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Also, if this were a white pop girl y'all wouldn't be complaining.

So much of people's opinions about chart stuff is based primarily on who their faves are.

[Gary]

All songs are singles or album tracks there is no difference

[jenglisbe]

Apr 30, 2018 21:58:06 GMT -5 Gary said:

All songs are singles or album tracks there is no difference

That isn't entirely true. There are obviously songs that are promoted - pushed at radio, have a video, etc - and songs that are not, so to that end there is a difference. But the parameters for what makes a "single" has certainly changed some.

[Sherane Lamar]

Apr 30, 2018 19:23:22 GMT -5 Zach said:

Apr 30, 2018 19:17:04 GMT -5 House Lannister said:

Not unless Tidal counts triple.

The fact that this is actually a plausible scenario...

It wouldn't be the weirdest thing ever. Afterall, it's Kanye West. And it wouldn't be the first time a strange song like this has entered the Hot 100. 

Personally, I really hope that it does. 

Production-wise, it's pretty terrible, given that it was put together in just one day. But lyrically, I think it's pretty cool how Kanye let T.I. voice the criticisms towards him from his fans and the Hip-Hop community. 

Would be a great addition to the Hot 100, but on Spotify, it is not doing well at all. 

[Gary]

Apr 30, 2018 22:16:01 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Apr 30, 2018 21:58:06 GMT -5 Gary said:

All songs are singles or album tracks there is no difference

That isn't entirely true. There are obviously songs that are promoted - pushed at radio, have a video, etc - and songs that are not, so to that end there is a difference. But the parameters for what makes a "single" has certainly changed some.

Different words that you can attached to the word "single" but all songs are still singles

[Zach]

Apr 30, 2018 22:16:01 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Apr 30, 2018 21:58:06 GMT -5 Gary said:

All songs are singles or album tracks there is no difference

That isn't entirely true. There are obviously songs that are promoted - pushed at radio, have a video, etc - and songs that are not, so to that end there is a difference. But the parameters for what makes a "single" has certainly changed some.

But that's the thing though. Yes singles do tend to be more heavily promoted and get a radio push and other investments but as has always been the case, the extent to which each single gets these investments varies widely. I mean, Demi Lovato's pre-Give Your Heart a Break singles got zero push on radio but they were promoted. Meanwhile, many album tracks from Adele's 21 and 25 which were non-singles were also promoted pretty heavily (in support of the album, but there's no distinction in the promotion).

I'm being confusing but my point is that yes there are parameters which are more likely to apply to singles than non-singles but these parameters cannot conclusively be used to identify "singles" since they could easily apply to non-singles. It would all once again come back to subjectivity on the part of Billboard in determining what counts as a single and what doesn't and that is NOT a route I want to see the charts go down. Or we could put the power over to the labels for them to decide what to deem a single and it therefore eligible for a singles chart but that swings the gate wide open again for chart manipulation from the labels.

Nowadays you can buy almost any song you want, single or non-single, and instantly stream any song you want with the touch of a button or the click of a mouse. Why exclude all these songs that people are listening to from a music popularity chart?

[Gary]

Then we revert back to the 90s where the most popular song in the country MUST be a "single".  

Or today we want "singles" that is promoted in a certain way and has a proper video, etc.


But as we know, songs can be popular without that. Whether it is non-singles, singles, radio singles, promotional singles, advance singles, lead singles, etc. they are all still singles because of the simple fact that you can stream or buy these songs buy themselves in addition to the entire album

[jenglisbe]

Apr 30, 2018 22:28:06 GMT -5 Zach said:

Apr 30, 2018 22:16:01 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

That isn't entirely true. There are obviously songs that are promoted - pushed at radio, have a video, etc - and songs that are not, so to that end there is a difference. But the parameters for what makes a "single" has certainly changed some.

But that's the thing though. Yes singles do tend to be more heavily promoted and get a radio push and other investments but as has always been the case, the extent to which each single gets these investments varies widely. I mean, Demi Lovato's pre-Give Your Heart a Break singles got zero push on radio but they were promoted. Meanwhile, many album tracks from Adele's 21 and 25 which were non-singles were also promoted pretty heavily (in support of the album, but there's no distinction in the promotion).

I'm being confusing but my point is that yes there are parameters which are more likely to apply to singles than non-singles but these parameters cannot conclusively be used to identify "singles" since they could easily apply to non-singles. It would all once again come back to subjectivity on the part of Billboard in determining what counts as a single and what doesn't and that is NOT a route I want to see the charts go down. Or we could put the power over to the labels for them to decide what to deem a single and it therefore eligible for a singles chart but that swings the gate wide open again for chart manipulation from the labels.

Nowadays you can buy almost any song you want, single or non-single, and instantly stream any song you want with the touch of a button or the click of a mouse. Why exclude all these songs that people are listening to from a music popularity chart?

I wasn't advocating for anything in terms of chart rules; I was simply saying there is a difference in a single and an album track. There is certainly a difference in, say, "Finesse" and "Calling All My Lovelies," or "Perfect" and "Dive." More to the point, we all know there are songs from albums that are promoted as an effort to promote the album/project. We may get to a point where that isn't the case, but as of now it still stands. "Never Be the Same" is certainly Camila's current single, as an example, and there are things to distinguish it from "Consequences."

[rimetm]

Sources: Livestream, articles, and Chart History

01 01 Nice for What
02 02 God's Plan
03 NE No Tears Left to Cry
04 03 Meant to Be
05 04 Psycho
06 NE ATM
07 05 The Middle
08 NE Kevin's Heart
09 06 Look Alive
10 NE KOD
11 07 Perfect
12 08 Freaky Friday
13 13 Never Be the Same
14 NE Photograph
15 NE Motiv8
16 09 I Like It

20 NE 1985 (Intro to The Fall Off)

23 15 Be Careful

28 NE The Cut Off

30 NE Brackets

34 RE Wake Me Up

36 38 In My Blood

41 NE Window Pain (Outro)

46 NE Friends (feat. kiLL edward)
47 NE Once an Addict (Interlude)
48 10 Chun-Li

50 39 Feel It Still

52 51 Delicate
53 NE Intro

55 62 Boo'd Up

57 NE OTW

59 54 Love Lies

64 64 One Kiss

72 NE Babe

74 NE Te Bote

81 NE Dame Tu Cosita

92 RE Alone

95 NE Everything's Gonna Be Alright

98 NE Close

100 67 Best Life

Off This Week (Partial List)
RC 45 Lights Down Low [28 Weeks]
RC 46 I Fall Apart [30 Weeks]
RC 47 Him & I [20 Weeks]
RC 50 Bad at Love [33 Weeks]
RC 56 Marry Me [20 Weeks]
XX 68 Bickenhead
XX 73 Let Me
XX 76 Wasted Times
XX 77 Get Up 10
XX 84 Guatemala
XX 87 Money Bag
XX 89 Anybody
XX 90 She Bad
XX 93 Get You
XX 94 Top Off
XX 95 She's With Me
XX 97 Broken Clocks
RC 98 Five More Minutes [20 Weeks]
XX 100 Hardaway

[Sherane Lamar]

Apr 30, 2018 22:37:14 GMT -5 rimetm said:

Sources: Livestream, articles, and Chart History

01 01 Nice for What
02 02 God's Plan
03 NE No Tears Left to Cry
04 03 Meant to Be
05 04 Psycho
06 NE ATM
07 05 The Middle
08 NE Kevin's Heart
09 06 Look Alive
10 NE KOD
11 07 Perfect
12 08 Freaky Friday
13 13 Never Be the Same
14 NE Photograph
15 NE Motiv8
16 09 I Like It

20 NE 1985 (Intro to The Fall Off)

23 15 Be Careful

28 NE The Cut Off

30 NE Brackets

34 RE Wake Me Up

36 38 In My Blood

41 NE Window Pain (Outro)

46 NE Friends (feat. kiLL edward)
47 NE Once an Addict (Interlude)
48 10 Chun-Li

50 39 Feel It Still

52 51 Delicate
53 NE Intro

55 62 Boo'd Up

57 NE OTW

59 54 Love Lies

64 64 One Kiss

72 NE Babe

74 NE Te Bote

81 NE Dame Tu Cosita

92 RE Alone

95 NE Everything's Gonna Be Alright

98 NE Close

100 67 Best Life

Off This Week (Partial List)
RC 45 Lights Down Low [28 Weeks]
RC 46 I Fall Apart [30 Weeks]
RC 47 Him & I [20 Weeks]
RC 50 Bad at Love [33 Weeks]
RC 56 Marry Me [20 Weeks]
XX 68 Bickenhead
XX 73 Let Me
XX 76 Wasted Times
XX 77 Get Up 10
XX 84 Guatemala
XX 87 Money Bag
XX 89 Anybody
XX 90 She Bad
XX 93 Get You
XX 94 Top Off
XX 95 She's With Me
XX 97 Broken Clocks
RC 98 Five More Minutes [20 Weeks]
XX 100 Hardaway

In for Dame Tu Cosita

[rainie]

I guess I’m just beginning to get annoyed at the amount of random album tracks cluttering up the hot 100 when they probably aren’t even listened to outside of the album 90% of the time. This fundamentally feels like something that should not be happening, and like it’s a flaw in the hot 100’s formula. I mean I seriously doubt enough people are listening to the intro to J Cole’s album independent form the other tracks to make it chart, it only is getting the amount of streams it is because people are listening to the album.

I don’t think there’s an easy answer to this, but I guess what I’d propose is a more lenient version of the UK’s system. Up to 5 songs from the same album can chart BUT any additional songs that would chart above 40 can chart normally. This only applies to songs from the same album (so the UK situation where Pray for Me was kicked off the charts prematurely wouldn’t happen for example), and maybe there would be an exception if a song from a given album would gather enough points to chart at least one month after the album bomb.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

What do the rest of you think of Wake Me Up! re-entering the Hot 100, in spite of not being in the top 25, after having charted 53 weeks in its chart run?

[Sherane Lamar]

Apr 30, 2018 22:56:56 GMT -5 rainie said:

enough people are listening to the intro to J Cole’s album to make it chart, it is getting the amount of streams it is because people are listening.

there’s an easy answer to this, chart normally.

Fixed.

[jarhys]

Apr 30, 2018 23:19:44 GMT -5 Baby Yoda Hot100Fan said:

What do the rest of you think of Wake Me Up! re-entering the Hot 100, in spite of not being in the top 25, after having charted 53 weeks in its chart run?

Maybe they don't apply new rules to the old songs.

[85la]

^ As for Wake Me Up re-entering, it seems like maybe Billboard is instigating some kind of new rule this week allowing it to chart, because all the reasons people gave for why it might have re-entered under current rules don't really make sense.

Apr 30, 2018 22:34:13 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Apr 30, 2018 22:28:06 GMT -5 Zach said:

But that's the thing though. Yes singles do tend to be more heavily promoted and get a radio push and other investments but as has always been the case, the extent to which each single gets these investments varies widely. I mean, Demi Lovato's pre-Give Your Heart a Break singles got zero push on radio but they were promoted. Meanwhile, many album tracks from Adele's 21 and 25 which were non-singles were also promoted pretty heavily (in support of the album, but there's no distinction in the promotion).

I'm being confusing but my point is that yes there are parameters which are more likely to apply to singles than non-singles but these parameters cannot conclusively be used to identify "singles" since they could easily apply to non-singles. It would all once again come back to subjectivity on the part of Billboard in determining what counts as a single and what doesn't and that is NOT a route I want to see the charts go down. Or we could put the power over to the labels for them to decide what to deem a single and it therefore eligible for a singles chart but that swings the gate wide open again for chart manipulation from the labels.

Nowadays you can buy almost any song you want, single or non-single, and instantly stream any song you want with the touch of a button or the click of a mouse. Why exclude all these songs that people are listening to from a music popularity chart?

I wasn't advocating for anything in terms of chart rules; I was simply saying there is a difference in a single and an album track. There is certainly a difference in, say, "Finesse" and "Calling All My Lovelies," or "Perfect" and "Dive." More to the point, we all know there are songs from albums that are promoted as an effort to promote the album/project. We may get to a point where that isn't the case, but as of now it still stands. "Never Be the Same" is certainly Camila's current single, as an example, and there are things to distinguish it from "Consequences."

I have to say I'm with jenglisbe on this. Especially in terms of receiving major radio promotion for at least one format, this could be the most definitive thing that separates a "single" from an "album track." Yes, some of the more popular non-radio promoted album tracks can receive minor airplay, as well as receive a fair amount of streams and sales allowing them to chart for maybe 10-15 weeks in the lower reaches of the Hot 100 here and there, but I can't think of a single case of a non-radio promoted track reaching the level of success that the most successful radio singles do, such as multiple weeks in the top ten, and ESPECIALLY not the top ten of the all-format Radio Songs chart - that is currently impossible given how the radio industry operates.

[velaxti]

^ An issue with that is that apparently some of the bigger artists don't actually send their songs for radio adds, because they don't need to. For example, I remember people saying that some of Bruno Mars's previous singles weren't sent for radio adds, radio stations played them anyway. I not 100% sure if that's true, but it could be.

In theory, if the Hot 100 did implement a rule where a song needed to be sent to a radio format to chart, I'm sure record labels would just pay the money to send the song for adds so it would chart, so it might not be a problem I guess. I still wouldn't like it though, because I think album tracks should be able to chart, and also, we're not going to have a massive rapper release an album every week, the next few months aren't going to continue like this. I guess this is just happening because some people in the industry have probably calculated that April/May is a good time to release hip hop albums for some reason lol.

And there's other examples. What happens if a European dance song manages to cross over to the US audience via the Internet (to the point it could chart on the lower parts of the Hot 100), but no record company is actively promoting the song in the US yet? Or even some of 6ix9ine's recent songs wouldn't have been able to chart, at least to start with (I'm sure a lot of people wouldn't have a problem with that haha, but for accuracy's sake).

Or what would happen if there's a viral hit like PSY - Gangnam Style or Rebecca Black - Friday? They might miss out on charting weeks due to not being sent to radio because they're novelty songs that blew up really fast out of nowhere.

What would have happened after Avicii's death (or Prince or David Bowie or whoever else)? Would Wake Me Up not be allowed to re-enter because it hasn't been sent to radio? Or would it be allowed to re-enter because it was sent to radio a few years ago?

Or the resurgence of My Boo we saw a couple of years ago. It managed to stay a couple of months in the chart iirc, would it have been able to chart under your proposed system?

I'd prefer things the way it is, although it Billboard really do think there's too many album tracks charting high, to the point that the chart is inaccurate, I think the best thing would be to reduce On-Demand streaming's weighting, album tracks don't do as well on iTunes, radio or Youtube.

[aussie1]

Apr 30, 2018 13:46:24 GMT -5 Gary said:

Females on the hot 100
Nicki Minaj - 87 entries
Taylor Swift 77
Aretha Franklin 73
Rihanna 61
Beyonce 59
Madonna 57

I thought it would be interesting to break this down. Madonna & Rihanna's stats are the most impressive in my opinion. 

Nicki-
#1's-0
top 10's -16
top 40's- 46

Taylor-
#1's-5
top 10's- 22
tops 40's- 55

Aretha-
#1's- 2
top 10's- 17
top 40's- 43

Rihanna-
#1's- 14
top 10's-31
top 40's-50

Beyonce-
#1's- 6
top 10's- 18
top 40's- 38

Madonna-
1's- 12
top 10's- 38
top 40's- 49

[Sherane Lamar]

May 1, 2018 2:10:00 GMT -5 Codex said:

Apr 30, 2018 23:35:26 GMT -5 Sherane Lamar said:

Fixed.

They’re listening to the album, which starts with the intro. They don’t care about the song itself, which is why the streams should be directed towards the album chart.

Was the intro to J.Cole’s album more popular than the intro to Reputation the week it sold 1.2 million? Would streaming artist fans still be supporting Billboard if the entire H100 top10 was Reputation album tracks on the week of release, due to sales of the album? It’s the exact same premise.

They don’t care about the song itself,

1. You don't know this
2. The Hot 100 measures how much the public listens to a song. Not whether they care about a song.

I mean, those are essentially the same thing. If people didn't care about the intro, it's really easy to skip, which clearly a lot of people did, since it debuted lower. 

Was the intro to J.Cole’s album more popular than the intro to Reputation the week it sold 1.2 million?

Um... no. The intro to "Reputation" is "...Ready For It" which debuted in the Top 10. 

However, it likely was more popular than "End Game", which is the second track on "Reputation", but was not available to stream or purchase individually during that week. We'll never know, since Taylor keeps limiting her audience to those who purchase during her debut weeks. 

Would streaming artist fans still be supporting Billboard if the entire H100 top10 was Reputation album tracks on the week of release, due to sales of the album? It’s the exact same premise.

Yes. I've suggested this multiple times. And I believe others have as well. However, it's obviously never going to happen, because the change would be so sudden. And sudden change clearly makes a lot of people upset. The best they could do is put a "last.fm" type feature in all Apple phones and then have Apple report the results to Billboard. That could also possibly fix the deceptively frontloaded nature of sales heavy artists. 

Eventually the problem will solve itself, as in the next ten years or so, all but a negligible portion of consumers will have switched over to streaming. 

[Lux ◢ ◤]

I do agree that with streaming being a major part of the Hot 100, it makes sense to count album purchases as well as a certain amount of listens to each track, and thus an amount of point. Albums are already tracked with streaming, having their purchases not counted makes it so that only big streaming artists have album bombs, when that may not be accurate. As presented above, Reputation made a big first week impact too (in sales), but you could barely (if at all?) see that on the charts, outside of the Billboard 200.

[Gary]

Hot 100


Hot 100

This Week Last Week Two Weeks Title, Artist Peak
1 1 1 3 #1 3 wks AG Nice For What , Drake 1
2 2 2 14 God's Plan , Drake 1
3 0 Hot Shot Debut 1 No Tears Left To Cry , Ariana Grande 3
4 3 3 27 Meant To Be , Bebe Rexha & Florida Georgia Line 2
5 4 4 9 Psycho , Post Malone Featuring Ty Dolla $ign 2
6 0 New 1 ATM , J. Cole 6
7 5 6 13 The Middle , Zedd, Maren Morris & Grey 5
8 0 New 1 Kevin's Heart , J. Cole 8
9 6 5 11 Look Alive , BlocBoy JB Featuring Drake 5
10 0 New 1 KOD , J. Cole 10
11 7 7 35 Perfect , Ed Sheeran 1
12 8 9 6 Freaky Friday , Lil Dicky Featuring Chris Brown 8
13 13 15 19 Never Be The Same , Camila Cabello 13
14 0 New 1 Photograph , J. Cole 14
15 0 New 1 Motiv8 , J. Cole 15
16 9 8 3 I Like It , Cardi B, Bad Bunny & J Balvin 8
17 14 14 14 Mine , Bazzi 11
18 11 12 13 Walk It Talk It , Migos Featuring Drake 10
19 17 20 4 Call Out My Name , The Weeknd 4
20 0 New 1 1985 (Intro To The Fall Off) , J. Cole 20
21 16 13 11 Plug Walk , Rich The Kid 13
22 19 16 37 Havana , Camila Cabello Featuring Young Thug 1
23 15 11 4 Be Careful , Cardi B 11
24 21 34 11 Friends , Marshmello & Anne-Marie 21
25 12 10 17 Finesse , Bruno Mars & Cardi B 3
26 20 22 13 Whatever It Takes , Imagine Dragons 20
27 18 17 12 Pray For Me , The Weeknd & Kendrick Lamar 7
28 0 New 1 The Cut Off , J. Cole Featuring kiLL edward 28
29 26 30 18 Heaven , Kane Brown 26
30 0 New 1 Brackets , J. Cole 30
31 22 18 8 Sad! , XXXTENTACION 7
32 27 24 32 Rockstar , Post Malone Featuring 21 Savage 1
33 30 27 39 New Rules , Dua Lipa 6
34 0 Re-Entry 54 Wake Me Up! , Avicii 4
35 28 29 5 Japan , Famous Dex 28
36 38 37 6 DG In My Blood , Shawn Mendes 22
37 24 – 2 Esskeetit , Lil Pump 24
38 29 41 13 You Make It Easy , Jason Aldean 28
39 23 19 18 Stir Fry , Migos 8
40 35 36 8 Powerglide , Rae Sremmurd & Juicy J 34
41 0 New 1 Window Pain (Outro) , J. Cole 41
42 36 35 15 Wait , Maroon 5 26
43 32 26 26 Ric Flair Drip , Offset & Metro Boomin 13
44 31 25 16 All The Stars , Kendrick Lamar & SZA 7
45 34 33 52 Thunder , Imagine Dragons 4
46 0 New 1 Friends , J. Cole Featuring kiLL edward 46
47 0 New 1 Once An Addict (Interlude) , J. Cole 47
48 10 92 3 Chun-Li , Nicki Minaj 10
49 37 31 28 Let You Down , NF 12
50 39 40 45 Feel It Still , Portugal. The Man 4
51 33 21 3 Drip , Cardi B Featuring Migos 21
52 51 54 7 Delicate , Taylor Swift 46
53 0 New 1 Intro , J. Cole 53
54 49 47 15 King's Dead , Jay Rock, Kendrick Lamar, Future & James Blake 21
55 62 72 4 SG Boo'd Up , Ella Mai 55
56 55 61 8 X , Nicky Jam x J Balvin 47
57 0 New 1 OTW , Khalid, Ty Dolla $ign & 6LACK 57
58 53 53 8 No Excuses , Meghan Trainor 46
59 54 56 10 Love Lies , Khalid & Normani 43
60 40 32 18 Bartier Cardi , Cardi B Featuring 21 Savage 14
61 52 49 13 New Freezer , Rich The Kid Featuring Kendrick Lamar 41
62 43 60 13 Most People Are Good , Luke Bryan 43
63 57 77 7 Tequila , Dan + Shay 57
64 64 62 3 One Kiss , Calvin Harris & Dua Lipa 62
65 41 42 13 Say Something , Justin Timberlake Featuring Chris Stapleton 9
66 63 76 8 Everyday , Logic & Marshmello 29
67 59 51 12 Singles You Up , Jordan Davis 50
68 70 75 6 One Number Away , Luke Combs 67
69 58 52 15 Outside Today , YoungBoy Never Broke Again 31
70 42 23 3 I Do , Cardi B Featuring SZA 23
71 44 28 3 Ring , Cardi B Featuring Kehlani 28
72 0 New 1 Babe , Sugarland Featuring Taylor Swift 72
73 60 64 15 IDGAF , Dua Lipa 54
74 0 New 1 Te Bote , Casper Magico, Nio Garcia, Darell, Nicky Jam, Ozuna & Bad Bunny 74
75 72 70 12 Dura , Daddy Yankee 50
76 74 67 7 Zombie , Bad Wolves 54
77 79 80 11 I Like Me Better , Lauv 73
78 25 83 3 Barbie Tingz , Nicki Minaj 25
79 80 79 6 Sit Next To Me , Foster The People 72
80 66 95 8 I Lived It , Blake Shelton 66
81 0 New 1 Dame Tu Cosita , El Chombo 81
82 78 85 3 Get Along , Kenny Chesney 78
83 69 66 8 Changes , XXXTENTACION 37
84 86 88 5 Up Down , Morgan Wallen Featuring Florida Georgia Line 83
85 65 71 12 The Long Way , Brett Eldredge 65
86 82 98 5 For The First Time , Darius Rucker 82
87 71 73 13 El Farsante , Ozuna & Romeo Santos 49
88 81 – 3 Woman, Amen , Dierks Bentley 81
89 61 59 3 Diamond Teeth Samurai , YoungBoy Never Broke Again 59
90 88 81 7 Sativa , Jhene Aiko Featuring Swae Lee Or Rae Sremmurd 74
91 83 – 14 This Is Me , Keala Settle & The Greatest Showman Ensemble 58
92 0 Re-Entry 2 Alone , Halsey Featuring Big Sean & Stefflon Don 92
93 93 94 16 Red Roses , Lil Skies Featuring Landon Cube 69
94 85 78 6 Moonlight , XXXTENTACION 35
95 0 New 1 Everything's Gonna Be Alright , David Lee Murphy & Kenny Chesney 95
96 48 – 2 Cry Pretty , Carrie Underwood 48
97 92 91 17 When We , Tank 78
98 0 New 1 Close , Rae Sremmurd & Travis Scott 98
99 75 50 3 Thru Your Phone , Cardi B 50
100 67 39 3 Best Life , Cardi B Featuring Chance The Rapper 39

[jebsib]

Interesting ideas.
I wonder if everyone here would feel the same if POP and Hip/Hop weren't the pre-eminent streaming genres.

What if - hypothetically - hundreds of millions of heavy streaming users listened day-in and out to Country songs, or Latin - or Show Tunes… and THOSE songs swamped the Hot 100 week after month after year….
Something like this probably won't but COULD happen with time.
Would that be fine?

[Gary]

Probably true, if people's personal favorites crowded the top 10 rather than Drake and J Cole taking up 6 spots, it was Ariana and Camila (or whomever), people would not bat an eyyelash

[jenglisbe]

May 1, 2018 1:34:07 GMT -5 velaxti said:

^ An issue with that is that apparently some of the bigger artists don't actually send their songs for radio adds, because they don't need to. For example, I remember people saying that some of Bruno Mars's previous singles weren't sent for radio adds, radio stations played them anyway. I not 100% sure if that's true, but it could be.

How did stations know what song from the album to play, then?

In theory, if the Hot 100 did implement a rule where a song needed to be sent to a radio format to chart, I'm sure record labels would just pay the money to send the song for adds so it would chart, so it might not be a problem I guess. I still wouldn't like it though, because I think album tracks should be able to chart, and also, we're not going to have a massive rapper release an album every week, the next few months aren't going to continue like this. I guess this is just happening because some people in the industry have probably calculated that April/May is a good time to release hip hop albums for some reason lol.

I agree. Like I wrote before, I was never advocating for a rule change, just saying there is a difference in a single and a non-single.

Having said that, record labels tend to drive Hot 100 rules. If labels decide album tracks clogging the Hot 100 are preventing them from measuring what the songs they are actively promoting are doing, then we will see a change.

[𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿]

Dame Tu Cosita > Scooby Doo Pa Pa

Sucks that Wake Me Up is the only Avicii song re-entered

[forg]

If Pop girls are the ones dominating the way the Hip hop artists are right now, there would still be arguments/complaining here of course. Any type of dominant chart performance would.

[jenglisbe]

May 1, 2018 8:02:23 GMT -5 forg said:

If Pop girls are the ones dominating the way the Hip hop artists are right now, there would still be arguments/complaining here of course. Any type of dominant chart performance would.

Yeah, but it would probably be a different group of people complaining.