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Post by elementd5 on May 23, 2018 12:31:06 GMT -5
Would Boo'd up be the first (or one of few?) traditional R&B songs by a female artist to go Top 10 on the Hot 100 in like a decade (I'm not including Rihanna/Beyoncé singles as traditional R&B)? Why would you expect Rihanna when Love on the Brain is more r&b than Boo'd Up? Is it just because she's charted on pop? That really shouldn't matter. (Beyoncé too, but I'm struggling to think of any song from her that's as "traditional" r&b as BU and LOTB that went to ten. I could see a case for Irreplaceable.) Edit: Forgot Me Myself & I went top ten too, that's definitely r&b. Yeah, I'd include Love on the Brain, but that's the only one in the past decade. I wasn't including them because they're such huge crossover stars and most of their singles aren't primarily R&B. |
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Post by renaboss on May 23, 2018 12:57:37 GMT -5
Where did Boo'd Up come from? I feel like it just came right out of nowhere. I'm not complaining though, it's a fantastic song. I actually remember that the first week it charted some user here - can't remember who - checked it out and immediately said it it had the potential to be their favorite song of the year. I first heard it right after I saw that, and haven't heard it since lol. Wasn't that long ago either, it's been rising up fast. |
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Post by kcdawg13 on May 23, 2018 14:21:42 GMT -5
Where did Boo'd Up come from? I feel like it just came right out of nowhere. I'm not complaining though, it's a fantastic song. I actually remember that the first week it charted some user here - can't remember who - checked it out and immediately said it it had the potential to be their favorite song of the year. I first heard it right after I saw that, and haven't heard it since lol. Wasn't that long ago either, it's been rising up fast. Some songs like Mine or Down that come out of nowhere can be linked to it being featured in a tv show, meme or a commercial, but from my understanding Boo'd Up didn't have any those to help it's climb. It was also released a year ago which makes it's rise even more baffling. |
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Post by J. Rob on May 23, 2018 14:44:57 GMT -5
The R&B audience is going wild over Boo'd Up"...similar to how Hip Hop fans reacted to "Humble" last year. It's pure, unadulterated R&B with no Hip Hop feature and it doesn't sound 90s retro.....and it's about to go Top 10. R&B fans have been begging for a scenario like this for years now. It's been at least a decade since a true R&B song has resonated like this. I played it to death all of last year and really can't believe it's happening. Lol
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on May 23, 2018 15:21:10 GMT -5
Where did Boo'd Up come from? I feel like it just came right out of nowhere. I'm not complaining though, it's a fantastic song. It's YT video has been among the top ones for US views for a couple weeks. For the tracking week up to Monday, it is #2, with about 16% less views than This is America.
Agreed on the latter point. I love it!
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Post by Mayman on May 23, 2018 15:24:12 GMT -5
Correct me if I am wrong, the kworb site projects sales for the week so that 41K may have been a weekly projection? I just found the post I referenced: OMG. Who the hell is Kris Wu? He has sold nearly 41k copies of Like That on iTunes in the US since its release at 11pm ET last night. It does good on streams, and it may be headed for a Top 10 debut on Billboard on the 6/2 chart. He mentioned before that he uses the Digital Sales Data website, which is sometimes accurate but most of the time inaccurate I believe. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on May 23, 2018 15:31:28 GMT -5
On another note, Fake Love's views have finally been included in the YouTube Insights. In the tracking week up to Monday, it was #4 in the US, which isn't bad, but probably means most (90% or more) are from outside the US. Of course, YT has been known to been wrong in what's reported there, correcting data later in the week and then reporting something completely different to Nielsen, which then reports it to Billboard. |
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Post by jenglisbe on May 23, 2018 16:50:57 GMT -5
Where did Boo'd Up come from? I feel like it just came right out of nowhere. I'm not complaining though, it's a fantastic song. It's YT video has been among the top ones for US views for a couple weeks. Then why is it only at 30 million views total? It is interesting that it only just now took off. |
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Post by forg on May 23, 2018 17:19:39 GMT -5
I actually just noticed Boo'd Up when it rose to #11 next week!Nice little surprise there
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on May 23, 2018 17:41:57 GMT -5
fhas^Let's look at its YT US weekly views history: 4/27-5/3: #8 8.3 MM 5/4-5/10: #4 11.4 MM 5/11-5/17: #2 13.2 MM That's not including this week's numbers and add up to close to 33 MM. My guess there's probably some memes or videos the song must be getting used as background music that are getting counted. Plus, I guess 90% or more of the views are from the US. Of course, YT Music Insights numbers could be totally off as fhas has pointed out. We'll probably find out about this point, if they mention streaming numbers when (I really hope it does) it reaches the top 10.
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Post by fhas on May 23, 2018 18:36:46 GMT -5
fhas ^Let's look at its YT US weekly views history: 4/27-5/3: #8 8.3 MM 5/4-5/10: #4 11.4 MM 5/11-5/17: #2 13.2 MM That's not including this week's numbers and add up to close to 33 MM. My guess there's probably some memes or videos the song must be getting used as background music that are getting counted. Plus, I guess 90% or more of the views are from the US. Of course, YT Music Insights numbers could be totally off as fhas has pointed out. We'll probably find out about this point, if they mention streaming numbers when (I really hope it does) it reaches the top 10. This is the third week that I'm tracking Boo'd Up and that's one of the easiest songs to track because Billboard give us a lot of info about its rise on the charts. Also, its streaming totals make a lot of sense. 13.3M YouTube + 8.2M on-demand + 1.8M programmed = 23.3M streams YouTube: YT Insights numbers are accurate for Boo'd Up, imo. When a song has user generated/non-official remixes they show the streams for each video during 2-3 weeks and after that they add up to the main video total. On-Demand: HDD is reporting 8.2M streams and that's very accurate. It's ~#10 on Apple Music (if AM's average #10 is as strong as Spotify's average #10, that's ~6.5M weekly streams for "BU") and ~#162 on Spotify (1.6M weekly streams). Programmed: Boo'd Up is #71 on Pandora and they reported that the song at #70 (Not A Love Song by bülow) has over 1.4M streams, so "BU" most likely has 1.4M streams. I think the other not-so-popular programmed services account for the rest of its 1.8M streams. |
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Post by Mayman on May 23, 2018 21:21:36 GMT -5
^^ Thank you for posting that and showing how it's success is not because of "memes" (which is the first thing some people assume when explaining the success of an r&b/hip-hop song).
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Post by kindofbiased on May 23, 2018 21:51:58 GMT -5
Boo'd Up is easily my favorite hit of the year so far. I don't think a song that sounds like it has gotten big in y e a r s. It's such a fantastic sound, it sounds somewhat cheaply made but that just makes the song more interesting. It wouldn't have the same affect if it was more muted and vibey like most modern RnB is. Not to mention Ella Mai absolutely KILLS it.
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Post by 85la on May 24, 2018 0:56:20 GMT -5
^ Yeah, it really is a nice little feel good song that seems to be almost entirely organically-driven with no major label support or any major tv/film/sync placements or anything like that, by a mostly unknown artist. It's nice to see a song like this chugging along up the charts based on the merits of the song itself, and I wish it the best of luck in the top ten!
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Post by Mayman on May 24, 2018 5:56:19 GMT -5
I haven't listened to Boo'd Up yet but I'll have have to give it one soon. I agree though, it's nice to see a song rise up into the top 10 of the chart organically.
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Post by J. Rob on May 24, 2018 6:08:44 GMT -5
^^ Thank you for posting that and showing how it's success is not because of "memes" (which is the first thing some people assume when explaining the success of an r&b/hip-hop song). I don't think it has registered with people yet that Hip Hop is the most dominant genre in the US (maybe the world at this point) and that the R&B audience is closely associated with Hip Hop |
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Post by Golden Bluebird on May 24, 2018 8:11:44 GMT -5
kworb.net/airadio/*** = Dropped or added a format Overall AI (Top 20) - 2018/05/241. (=) ZEDD/MAREN MORRIS/GREY - The Middle (163.665) (-0.682) 2. (=) CAMILA CABELLO - Never Be The Same (153.204) (-0.548) 3. (=) DRAKE - God's Plan (146.735) (-0.405) 4. (=) BEBE REXHA - Meant To Be f/F.G.L. (137.762) (-4.488) *** 5. (=) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Whatever It Takes (129.041) (-0.202) 6. (=) POST MALONE - Psycho f/Ty Dolla $ign (113.673) (+2.151) 7. (=) DRAKE - Nice For What (109.273) (+0.680) 8. (=) THE WEEKND & KENDRICK LAMAR - Pray For Me (106.141) (-1.780) 9. (=) MAROON 5 - Wait (99.667) (+0.999) 10. (=) ED SHEERAN - Perfect (97.375) (-1.149) 11. (=) SHAWN MENDES - In My Blood (85.533) (-0.192) 12. (=) DUA LIPA - New Rules (81.859) (-0.853) 13. (=) BAZZI - Mine (80.838) (+0.877) 14. (=) MAX - Lights Down Low (79.928) (+0.132) 15. (=) ARIANA GRANDE - No Tears Left To Cry (78.918) (+0.933) 16. (+1) LUKE COMBS - One Number Away (71.250) (+0.588) 17. (+3) TAYLOR SWIFT - Delicate (71.082) (+1.786) 18. (-2) BRUNO MARS & CARDI B - Finesse (71.020) (-1.646) 19. (-1) KANE BROWN - Heaven (69.423) (-0.667) 20. (+1) DARIUS RUCKER - For The First Time (69.393) (+1.196) Outside the Top 20: 34. (+1) ELLA MAI - Boo'd Up (49.492) (+1.246) 40. (+1) LAUV - I Like Me Better (46.290) (+1.055) 71. (+4) CARDI B - I Like It (26.467) (+1.526) 75. (+5) SELENA GOMEZ - Back To You (25.003) (+1.085)
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Post by owenlovesmusic on May 24, 2018 8:46:17 GMT -5
Post is gaining fast.
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Post by jarhys on May 24, 2018 11:01:42 GMT -5
Whatever It Takes please don't stop gaining!
Delicate has a decent gain. By the way.
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Post by wicked on May 24, 2018 14:57:58 GMT -5
Pyscho is doing much better than I thought it would.
Would’ve been #1 had the album come out just a few weeks later... shame the airplay was just a little bit too small to propel it to #1.
I still think it has a chance, though.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on May 24, 2018 16:02:19 GMT -5
Could Psycho be the next #1 in Radio Songs? The only ways I see that might not happen is if The Middle suddenly drops more quick and allows Never Be the Same to become #1 and/or Psycho peaking before it happens. Once it was able to gain this week's airplay gainer award and overtake Nice for What, this became a real possibility to me.
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Post by kanfad on May 24, 2018 16:58:35 GMT -5
If it did, it'd have to be with one of the lowest AIs to top Radio. Btw, what is the lowest AI total to top Radio?
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Post by fhas on May 24, 2018 17:33:36 GMT -5
If it did, it'd have to be with one of the lowest AIs to top Radio. Btw, what is the lowest AI total to top Radio? I don't know what is the all-time (or even decade) record, but last year Feel It Still reached #1 on Billboard's Radio Songs with 110M (149.6M using Kworb's data - kworb.net/airadio/archives/20171014.html ). |
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Post by jebsib on May 24, 2018 18:01:21 GMT -5
Dreamlover topped Radio Songs with 89 million, and it was the RECORD HOLDER for highest AI for many years.
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Post by iHype. on May 24, 2018 20:30:57 GMT -5
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Post by wicked on May 24, 2018 20:58:27 GMT -5
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Post by jenglisbe on May 24, 2018 20:59:21 GMT -5
Dreamlover topped Radio Songs with 89 million, and it was the RECORD HOLDER for highest AI for many years. That was before all formats were included, though. That total was actually pretty huge for 1993 considering it was from a limited panel. “Dreamlover” was #1 Hot 100 Airplay for the year despite its full chart run not counting since it was still charting when the chart year ended. |
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Post by Naos on May 24, 2018 21:05:45 GMT -5
^ Yeah, it really is a nice little feel good song that seems to be almost entirely organically-driven with no major label support or any major tv/film/sync placements or anything like that, by a mostly unknown artist. It's nice to see a song like this chugging along up the charts based on the merits of the song itself, and I wish it the best of luck in the top ten! It only went Top 20, but didn't MAX already do that? Mostly unknown artist who's song chugged up the chart more organically? |
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Post by hot100predictions on May 24, 2018 21:20:47 GMT -5
What Drake is missing from Yes Indeed is an MV and airplay. He needs to spread more word on this song. It could match TIA and NFW for top 3 on the 6/9 chart if he can. Also, Drake should have a new song out any minute now, can't see why he can't release the single with the Bad Bunny feature. It would totally be bigger than I Like It not to mention, a summery vibe MV the same day and a reggae, summer vibe and it would easily be the next Despacito. And I'm talking a few weeks at #1 on the Hot 100 too.
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Post by 85la on May 24, 2018 22:26:43 GMT -5
Dreamlover topped Radio Songs with 89 million, and it was the RECORD HOLDER for highest AI for many years. That was before all formats were included, though. That total was actually pretty huge for 1993 considering it was from a limited panel. “Dreamlover” was #1 Hot 100 Airplay for the year despite its full chart run not counting since it was still charting when the chart year ended. Since Billboard added all radio formats to the Hot 100 Airplay in 1998, Pink's Blow Me One Last Kiss had one of the lowest #1 AI totals, around 93 or 94 million iirc, but I don't know if that was the lowest. ^ Yeah, it really is a nice little feel good song that seems to be almost entirely organically-driven with no major label support or any major tv/film/sync placements or anything like that, by a mostly unknown artist. It's nice to see a song like this chugging along up the charts based on the merits of the song itself, and I wish it the best of luck in the top ten! It only went Top 20, but didn't MAX already do that? Mostly unknown artist who's song chugged up the chart more organically? Yeah, for sure other songs have done it as well. |
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