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Post by iHype. on May 24, 2018 22:54:48 GMT -5
That was before all formats were included, though. That total was actually pretty huge for 1993 considering it was from a limited panel. “Dreamlover” was #1 Hot 100 Airplay for the year despite its full chart run not counting since it was still charting when the chart year ended. Since Billboard added all radio formats to the Hot 100 Airplay in 1998, Pink's Blow Me One Last Kiss had one of the lowest #1 AI totals, around 93 or 94 million iirc, but I don't know if that was the lowest. Found this: I always wonder what caused them to reweight the formats at the end of the 2000s, and why they never discussed it. #1's at radio just went from doing 150-225 million to 85-125 million through 2008-2012, out of nowhere
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Post by Golden Bluebird on May 25, 2018 8:12:01 GMT -5
kworb.net/airadio/*** = Dropped or added a format Overall AI (Top 20) - 2018/05/251. (=) ZEDD/MAREN MORRIS/GREY - The Middle (163.634) (-0.031) *** 2. (=) CAMILA CABELLO - Never Be The Same (153.476) (+0.272) 3. (=) DRAKE - God's Plan (145.333) (-1.402) 4. (=) BEBE REXHA - Meant To Be f/F.G.L. (135.542) (-2.220) 5. (=) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Whatever It Takes (128.527) (-0.514) 6. (=) POST MALONE - Psycho f/Ty Dolla $ign (115.139) (+1.466) 7. (=) DRAKE - Nice For What (110.132) (+0.859) 8. (=) THE WEEKND & KENDRICK LAMAR - Pray For Me (103.874) (-2.267) 9. (=) MAROON 5 - Wait (101.383) (+1.716) 10. (=) ED SHEERAN - Perfect (96.459) (-0.916) 11. (=) SHAWN MENDES - In My Blood (85.605) (+0.072) 12. (+1) BAZZI - Mine (82.152) (+1.314) 13. (-1) DUA LIPA - New Rules (80.627) (-1.232) 14. (+1) ARIANA GRANDE - No Tears Left To Cry (80.487) (+1.569) 15. (-1) MAX - Lights Down Low (79.943) (+0.015) 16. (+1) TAYLOR SWIFT - Delicate (72.644) (+1.562) 17. (-1) LUKE COMBS - One Number Away (71.566) (+0.316) 18. (+2) DARIUS RUCKER - For The First Time (70.399) (+1.006) 19. (-1) BRUNO MARS & CARDI B - Finesse (70.115) (-0.905) 20. (+1) BLOCBOY JB - Look Alive f/Drake (68.637) (-0.280) Outside the Top 20: 33. (+1) ELLA MAI - Boo'd Up (50.530) (+1.038) 35. (+2) CHARLIE PUTH - Done For Me f/Kehlani (48.568) (+1.149) 52. (+1) DUA LIPA - IDGAF (35.448) (+1.026) 70. (+1) CARDI B - I Like It (27.596) (+1.129) 73. (+2) SELENA GOMEZ - Back To You (26.326) (+1.323)
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Post by annoymous1 on May 25, 2018 11:50:36 GMT -5
Delicate keeps gaining on radio each day 😁 I'm hoping delicate can keep rising on BB100 a top 10 is stretch but top 20 is also good .
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Post by jebsib on May 25, 2018 12:03:44 GMT -5
iHype, are you sure they rewrote the airplay formula levels in the late 2000s?
I always thought that was due to the bottom finally falling out of the huge Rhythmic / Hip-Hop ratings after an almost 10 year stranglehold. This in turn led Pop to migrate away from those sounds, and build their own hits, thus wiping away those huge audience levels.
Maybe not?
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Post by iHype. on May 25, 2018 13:43:17 GMT -5
iHype, are you sure they rewrote the airplay formula levels in the late 2000s? I always thought that was due to the bottom finally falling out of the huge Rhythmic / Hip-Hop ratings after an almost 10 year stranglehold. This in turn led Pop to migrate away from those sounds, and build their own hits, thus wiping away those huge audience levels. Maybe not? You Don't Know My Name reached #1 on R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay with 93.4 million in 2004. Now: To go from 93 million for a #1 to 33 million means they definitely had to have massively change format's audience numbers, instead of there being a lack of crossovers. Literally almost 3x smaller numbers for the #1 today, still wonder why they never talked about why they cut down the numbers so big.
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Post by Mayman on May 25, 2018 14:31:14 GMT -5
How much audience does the #1 on both Rhythmic and Pop Songs charts currently? I'm wondering how these compare to Hip Hop play.
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Post by Au$tin on May 25, 2018 15:09:17 GMT -5
How much audience does the #1 on both Rhythmic and Pop Songs charts currently? I'm wondering how these compare to Hip Hop play. Currently, "Never Be the Same" is #1 on pop with 103.931 AI and "Nice for What" is #1 on rhythmic with 42.103 AI. "Nice for What" is also #1 on urban with 40.137 AI. (Using full panel, which is used for overall AI, not published panel, which is used for format charts.) Top Ten in AI on Pop (position is from the all stations with recurrents chart) Never Be the Same - 103.931 (#1) The Middle - 102.478 (#2) Pray for Me - 74.498 (#4) Psycho - 73.540 (#7) God's Plan - 71.172 (#5) Wait - 65.984 (#6) Mine - 65.533 (#8) New Rules - 64.308 (#12) Whatever It Takes - 64.158 (#3) No Tears Left to Cry - 62.053 (#10) Top Ten in AI on Rhythmic Nice for What - 42.103 (#1) God's Plan - 33.748 (#3) Psycho - 29.830 (#2) Look Alive - 29.704 (#4) Be Careful - 23.804 (#5) Pray for Me - 22.572 (#6) Walk It Talk It - 17.447 (#13) Chun-Li - 14.982 (#11) Boo'd Up - 13.966 (#15) Mine - 13.668 (#8) Urban Nice for What - 40.137 (#1) Look Alive - 38.933 (#3) God's Plan - 37.160 (#5) Walk It Talk It - 34.876 (#2) Boo'd Up - 31.023 (#4) Be Careful - 26.419 (#6) New Freezer - 23.147 (#9) When We - 17.475 (#7) Chun-Li - 17.096 (#8) Plug Walk - 15.702 (#11) {Hot AC} The Middle - 45.374 (#1) Whatever It Takes - 43.447 (#2) Never Be the Same - 36.608 (#4) Meant to Be - 35.719 (#3) Wait - 34.455 (#5) Perfect - 31.652 (#6) Lights Down Low - 30.427 (#9) Good Old Days - 28.178 (#8) In My Blood - 27.119 (#7) Delicate - 25.648 (#10)
{Urban AC} Good Man - 13.300 (#1) Long As I Live - 12.334 (#2) Finesse - 12.016 (#3) Get You - 10.471 (#5) When We - 9.949 (#4) That's What I Like - 8.828 (#12) Redbone - 8.312 (#8) Location - 7.988 (#9) Mood - 7.277 (#6) Organic - 6.584 (#7)
{AC} Perfect - 27.200 (#1) What About Us - 23.443 (#4) Lights Down Low - 21.828 (#3) Feel It Still - 21.284 (#2) There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back - 19.743 (#5) Havana - 16.825 (#6) Shape of You - 15.252 (#7) Something Just Like This - 12.575 (#8) Can't Stop the Feeling - 12.195 (#10) Meant to Be - 12.043 (#11)
{Country} One Number Away - 71.566 (#1) For the First Time - 70.399 (#2) Heaven - 68.441 (#3) You Make It Easy - 57.629 (#6) Woman, Amen - 56.942 (#4) I Lived It - 54.301 (#5) Everything's Gonna Be Alright - 53.233 (#7) Up Down - 47.829 (#8) Get Along - 46.521 (#9) Meant to Be - 45.213 (#11)
{Alternative} Broken - 15.042 (#1) Whatever It Takes - 14.498 (#3) Thought Contagion - 12.218 (#2) Dangerous Night - 11.038 (#4) Say Amen (Saturday Night) - 9.897 (#6) Feel It Still - 9.790 (#12) Sit Next to Me - 9.704 (#9) &Run - 9.100 (#5) I Feel Like I'm Drowning - 8.328 (#8) Live in the Moment - 8.006 (#13)
{Active} Zombie - 7.980 (#1) Bulletproof - 7.863 (#2) DEVIL - 7.475 (#3) Rats - 5.070 (#4) Shadow of Your Love - 4.509 (#7) The Mountain - 4.254 (#5) What It Is - 3.897 (#6) Rx - 3.161 (#17) Thought Contagion - 2.913 (#8) Deathwish - 2.845 (#9)
{AAA} Bad Bad News - 1.940 (#1) Saturday Sun - 1.726 (#3) Hunger - 1.645 (#9) You Worry Me - 1.627 (#8) Broken - 1.610 (#6) Sit Next to Me - 1.593 (#16) Silver Lining - 1.562 (#2) Life to Fix - 1.440 (#4) Whatever It Takes - 1.343 (#18) Such a Simple Thing - 1.297 (#5)
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Post by Mayman on May 25, 2018 15:17:32 GMT -5
How much audience does the #1 on both Rhythmic and Pop Songs charts currently? I'm wondering how these compare to Hip Hop play. Currently, "Never Be the Same" is #1 on pop with 103.931 AI and "Nice for What" is #1 on rhythmic with 42.103 AI. "Nice for What" is also #1 on urban with 40.137 AI. (Using full panel, which is used for overall AI, not published panel, which is used for format charts.) Top Ten in AI on Pop (position is from the all stations with recurrents chart) Never Be the Same - 103.931 (#1) The Middle - 102.478 (#2) Pray for Me - 74.498 (#4) Psycho - 73.540 (#7) God's Plan - 71.172 (#5) Wait - 65.984 (#6) Mine - 65.533 (#8) New Rules - 64.308 (#12) Whatever It Takes - 64.158 (#3) No Tears Left to Cry - 62.053 (#10) Top Ten in AI on Rhythmic Nice for What - 42.103 (#1) God's Plan - 33.748 (#3) Psycho - 29.830 (#2) Look Alive - 29.704 (#4) Be Careful - 23.804 (#5) Pray for Me - 22.572 (#6) Walk It Talk It - 17.447 (#13) Chun-Li - 14.982 (#11) Boo'd Up - 13.966 (#15) Mine - 13.668 (#8) Urban Nice for What - 40.137 (#1) Look Alive - 38.933 (#3) God's Plan - 37.160 (#5) Walk It Talk It - 34.876 (#2) Boo'd Up - 31.023 (#4) Be Careful - 26.419 (#6) New Freezer - 23.147 (#9) When We - 17.475 (#7) Chun-Li - 17.096 (#8) Plug Walk - 15.702 (#11) {Hot AC} The Middle - 45.374 (#1) Whatever It Takes - 43.447 (#2) Never Be the Same - 36.608 (#4) Meant to Be - 35.719 (#3) Wait - 34.455 (#5) Perfect - 31.652 (#6) Lights Down Low - 30.427 (#9) Good Old Days - 28.178 (#8) In My Blood - 27.119 (#7) Delicate - 25.648 (#10)
{Urban AC} Good Man - 13.300 (#1) Long As I Live - 12.334 (#2) Finesse - 12.016 (#3) Get You - 10.471 (#5) When We - 9.949 (#4) That's What I Like - 8.828 (#12) Redbone - 8.312 (#8) Location - 7.988 (#9) Mood - 7.277 (#6) Organic - 6.584 (#7)
{AC} Perfect - 27.200 (#1) What About Us - 23.443 (#4) Lights Down Low - 21.828 (#3) Feel It Still - 21.284 (#2) There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back - 19.743 (#5) Havana - 16.825 (#6) Shape of You - 15.252 (#7) Something Just Like This - 12.575 (#8) Can't Stop the Feeling - 12.195 (#10) Meant to Be - 12.043 (#11)
{Country} One Number Away - 71.566 (#1) For the First Time - 70.399 (#2) Heaven - 68.441 (#3) You Make It Easy - 57.629 (#6) Woman, Amen - 56.942 (#4) I Lived It - 54.301 (#5) Everything's Gonna Be Alright - 53.233 (#7) Up Down - 47.829 (#8) Get Along - 46.521 (#9) Meant to Be - 45.213 (#11)
{Alternative} Broken - 15.042 (#1) Whatever It Takes - 14.498 (#3) Thought Contagion - 12.218 (#2) Dangerous Night - 11.038 (#4) Say Amen (Saturday Night) - 9.897 (#6) Feel It Still - 9.790 (#12) Sit Next to Me - 9.704 (#9) &Run - 9.100 (#5) I Feel Like I'm Drowning - 8.328 (#8) Live in the Moment - 8.006 (#13)
{Active} Zombie - 7.980 (#1) Bulletproof - 7.863 (#2) DEVIL - 7.475 (#3) Rats - 5.070 (#4) Shadow of Your Love - 4.509 (#7) The Mountain - 4.254 (#5) What It Is - 3.897 (#6) Rx - 3.161 (#17) Thought Contagion - 2.913 (#8) Deathwish - 2.845 (#9)
{AAA} Bad Bad News - 1.940 (#1) Saturday Sun - 1.726 (#3) Hunger - 1.645 (#9) You Worry Me - 1.627 (#8) Broken - 1.610 (#6) Sit Next to Me - 1.593 (#16) Silver Lining - 1.562 (#2) Life to Fix - 1.440 (#4) Whatever It Takes - 1.343 (#18) Such a Simple Thing - 1.297 (#5)
Thank you for this, it's crazy how pop dominates so much compared to all of the other formats.
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Post by hot100predictions on May 25, 2018 18:25:31 GMT -5
Duppy. Freestyle. Drake. Out Now. SoundCloud. Dope. Rip Pusha T.
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Post by fhas on May 25, 2018 18:41:21 GMT -5
If Nice For What returns to #1 this week, I think it will be the first song (since Billboard created its Streaming Songs chart - Jan. 26, 2013) to lead the Hot 100 despite not being in the top 2 of any metric (sales, airplay, streaming).
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Post by kanfad on May 25, 2018 18:59:05 GMT -5
Duppy. Freestyle. Drake. Out Now. SoundCloud. Dope. Rip Pusha T. Its only on soundcloud. Does that mean it isnt eligible to chart?
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Post by Mayman on May 25, 2018 19:10:46 GMT -5
Duppy. Freestyle. Drake. Out Now. SoundCloud. Dope. Rip Pusha T. Its only on soundcloud. Does that mean it isnt eligible to chart? I can't remember if Soundcloud is included on streaming tracking, does anyone have information?
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Post by fhas on May 25, 2018 19:13:52 GMT -5
Its only on soundcloud. Does that mean it isnt eligible to chart? I can't remember if Soundcloud is included on streaming tracking, does anyone have information? Yes, it is included.
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Post by hot100predictions on May 25, 2018 19:15:21 GMT -5
I can't remember if Soundcloud is included on streaming tracking, does anyone have information? Yes, it is included. 6/9 Chart: 6. Duppy Freestyle
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Post by Mayman on May 25, 2018 19:20:07 GMT -5
I can't imagine it going top 10 with only SoundCloud streams. Although anything could happen with Drake.
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Post by hot100predictions on May 25, 2018 19:25:04 GMT -5
Drake will probably release it on Apple Music tonight.
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Post by Sherane Lamar on May 25, 2018 20:35:27 GMT -5
What are you guys thinking for A$AP Rocky?
I'm thinking maybe like 5 charting songs.
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Post by Mayman on May 25, 2018 21:50:25 GMT -5
What are you guys thinking for A$AP Rocky? I'm thinking maybe like 5 charting songs. Yeah, I'm thinking he'll chart 5 or 6 in the lower half of the chart.
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Post by 85la on May 25, 2018 23:28:55 GMT -5
As for airplay audience numbers changing over time, I don't think it's so much how they calculate the numbers or that they "rewrite the formula," I think it's just that audience levels change over time for various reasons, both in terms of overall listenership and proportionally for different formats. For instance, overall listenership seemed to go down from the early 2000s to the late 2000s, up sharply again during the early 2010s, and now slightly down again.
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Post by owenlovesmusic on May 26, 2018 0:03:21 GMT -5
What are you guys thinking for A$AP Rocky? I'm thinking maybe like 5 charting songs. A new peak for A$AP Forever, maybe in the 40s and, "Praise the Lord (Da Shine)" will probably chart in the 50s and a few other songs probably. What about for Pusha T?
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Post by willapted33 on May 26, 2018 0:18:28 GMT -5
If You Know You Know sounds like it *could* chart but idk. Maybe the whole thing will since it's only 7 songs ?
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Post by dynamac on May 26, 2018 1:22:46 GMT -5
Only Pusha T song I could see charting is Infrared because of Drake
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Post by chartslovergermany on May 26, 2018 3:57:30 GMT -5
Swifties(Taylor fan group)are doing a #DelicateStreamingParty😊 I hope it helps because their goal is to get her to the top20 of BB. Currently Taylor is at Radio :#16 iTunes:#18-21(always rising and falling in between) Spotify : something around #100
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Post by filthy on May 26, 2018 4:21:27 GMT -5
I was very disappointed by A$AP Rocky's album
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Post by bannedonatrl on May 26, 2018 4:25:06 GMT -5
I was very disappointed by A$AP Rocky's album not even gonna listen to it. Playboi Carti's new album tho>>>> he needs to take notes from his signee
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Post by Mayman on May 26, 2018 8:03:27 GMT -5
Swifties(Taylor fan group)are doing a #DelicateStreamingParty😊 I hope it helps because their goal is to get her to the top20 of BB. Currently Taylor is at Radio :#16 iTunes:#18-21(always rising and falling in between) Spotify : something around #100 Those rarely effect the charts.
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Post by Golden Bluebird on May 26, 2018 8:14:45 GMT -5
kworb.net/airadio/*** = Dropped or added a format Overall AI (Top 20) - 2018/05/261. (=) ZEDD/MAREN MORRIS/GREY - The Middle (162.733) (-0.901) 2. (=) CAMILA CABELLO - Never Be The Same (152.976) (-0.500) 3. (=) DRAKE - God's Plan (142.970) (-2.363) 4. (=) BEBE REXHA - Meant To Be f/F.G.L. (133.339) (-2.203) 5. (=) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Whatever It Takes (127.520) (-1.007) 6. (=) POST MALONE - Psycho f/Ty Dolla $ign (116.548) (+1.409) 7. (=) DRAKE - Nice For What (110.122) (-0.010) 8. (+1) MAROON 5 - Wait (101.786) (+0.403) 9. (-1) THE WEEKND & KENDRICK LAMAR - Pray For Me (101.304) (-2.570) 10. (=) ED SHEERAN - Perfect (95.523) (-0.936) 11. (=) SHAWN MENDES - In My Blood (85.373) (-0.232) 12. (=) BAZZI - Mine (83.038) (+0.886) 13. (+1) ARIANA GRANDE - No Tears Left To Cry (81.788) (+1.301) 14. (-1) DUA LIPA - New Rules (79.788) (-0.839) 15. (=) MAX - Lights Down Low (79.024) (-0.919) 16. (=) TAYLOR SWIFT - Delicate (74.104) (+1.460) 17. (=) LUKE COMBS - One Number Away (71.754) (+0.188) 18. (=) DARIUS RUCKER - For The First Time (71.285) (+0.886) 19. (=) BRUNO MARS & CARDI B - Finesse (69.080) (-1.035) 20. (=) BLOCBOY JB - Look Alive f/Drake (68.086) (-0.551)
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Post by Mayman on May 26, 2018 8:18:48 GMT -5
It's neck and neck between TM and NBTS. I think NBTS might be able to get it in the next few weeks.
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Post by chartslovergermany on May 26, 2018 8:31:55 GMT -5
Swifties(Taylor fan group)are doing a #DelicateStreamingParty😊 I hope it helps because their goal is to get her to the top20 of BB. Currently Taylor is at Radio :#16 iTunes:#18-21(always rising and falling in between) Spotify : something around #100 Those rarely effect the charts. there was a streaming party already in South America because they want that Taylor performs there. The Itunes numbers are speaking for themselves Belize:Delicate jumped from #37 to #1 Brazil: Delicate jumped from #110 to #8 Shake it off jumped from #141 to #29 Bolivia:Back to December debuts at #1,but the song is very old And so it goes on in other countries because of the streaming party
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Post by Gary on May 26, 2018 8:39:32 GMT -5
USA market is a little bigger
This will likely not work
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