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Post by kanfad on Jun 21, 2018 19:26:34 GMT -5
So how do we think sales will do next for Scorpion? I mean since Drake took part in X’s death according to Twitter. That nonsense doesnt really affect anything at all. Same as with every controversy the internet generates against him, the people that weren't listening to him before this wont listen and those who do will continue to do so Probably 750 - 950k sps
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Post by Angel on Jun 21, 2018 19:27:35 GMT -5
So how do we think sales will do next for Scorpion? I mean since Drake took part in X’s death according to Twitter. Still got my money on at least 600k SPS first week. Gonna be the album bomb of the year.
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Post by kanfad on Jun 21, 2018 19:32:27 GMT -5
Also, for those doing predictions for this week, hdd has Sad! at 25m on demand streams. Thats way lower than I estimated and I still couldnt see it going #1. It cant possibly pull more than 25m on YT so im having a lot of trouble seeing it at #1
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Post by braveheart on Jun 21, 2018 19:40:13 GMT -5
Also, for those doing predictions for this week, hdd has Sad! at 25m on demand streams. Thats way lower than I estimated and I still couldnt see it going #1. It cant possibly pull more than 25m on YT so im having a lot of trouble seeing it at #1 it did 4 million on monday US YT streams... im guessing 6 million on tuesday.... then 3-4 on wednesday and thursday which will give it 17 million from youtube which will be a total of 42 million streams compared to cardi's around 32 million.... i think sad will sell about 28k to i like it's 30k so i think they should be even in sales... so sad has a 10 million edge in streaming... but i like it has a 80million audience advantage on radio.... so him getting the #1 over her solely based on streaming would be so ridiculous ....
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Post by Sherane Lamar on Jun 21, 2018 19:41:55 GMT -5
Do you think all of X's songs will get new peaks next week? He's had 15 charting songs. I really doubt every one of them will re-enter, let alone peak higher than they already did. Interestingly, if every single XXX song re-entered and re-peaked, it wouldn't guarantee that he'd have a bigger takeover than Prince. But I think we'll probably get a bigger takeover anyways. I think he'll have a lot more than just 6 songs in the Top 50. (He's had 6 Top 50's so far).
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Jun 21, 2018 19:47:24 GMT -5
it high key might fall off the entire chart. Good! Let's break Soko's record! Which Prince already broke back when he died when "Purple Rain" and "When Doves Cry" reentered the Top 10 at #4 and #8 respectively, so X would be breaking Prince's record
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Post by fhas on Jun 21, 2018 19:48:17 GMT -5
Also, for those doing predictions for this week, hdd has Sad! at 25m on demand streams. Thats way lower than I estimated and I still couldnt see it going #1. It cant possibly pull more than 25m on YT so im having a lot of trouble seeing it at #1 it did 4 million on monday US YT streams... im guessing 6 million on tuesday.... then 3-4 on wednesday and thursday which will give it 17 million from youtube which will be a total of 42 million streams compared to cardi's around 32 million.... i think sad will sell about 28k to i like it's 30k so i think they should be even in sales... so sad has a 10 million edge in streaming... but i like it has a 80million audience advantage on radio.... so him getting the #1 over her solely based on streaming would be so ridiculous .... 80 million audience advantage? It's something like 61-65M.
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Post by jeiboy on Jun 21, 2018 19:57:56 GMT -5
Also, for those doing predictions for this week, hdd has Sad! at 25m on demand streams. Thats way lower than I estimated and I still couldnt see it going #1. It cant possibly pull more than 25m on YT so im having a lot of trouble seeing it at #1 it did 4 million on monday US YT streams... im guessing 6 million on tuesday.... then 3-4 on wednesday and thursday which will give it 17 million from youtube which will be a total of 42 million streams compared to cardi's around 32 million.... i think sad will sell about 28k to i like it's 30k so i think they should be even in sales... so sad has a 10 million edge in streaming... but i like it has a 80million audience advantage on radio.... so him getting the #1 over her solely based on streaming would be so ridiculous .... US YouTube insights is glitching and in accurate though hmm
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Post by Sherane Lamar on Jun 21, 2018 19:58:29 GMT -5
I wonder, if "SAD!" does go to #1 next week, how much will the song drop the week after. Would be interesting to see if it can beat "Nothing from Nothing" by Billy Preston and "Then Came You" by Dionne Warwick and the Spinners (both of which went from #1 to #15) for the biggest drop from the #1 spot. What day of the week did Prince die? Remember that Prince's bigger week was the second week after he initially re-entered. He must have had only like a half day of charting or something. it high key might fall off the entire chart. Good! Let's break Soko's record! That's almost certainly not going to happen. "Sad!" had been holding steady from 51-52 a week before he died. And it's in its 15th week. So it almost certainly would have gotten a 17th week, even if XXX was still alive. If anything, we're likely to see "Sad!" get a "second wind" of sorts, since it's still in regular circulation, and is probably gaining a lot of new first-time listeners. And SoKo would still have the more noteworthy records of being: * The highest charting song ever to spent only one week on the chart * The weakest Top 10 of all time.
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Post by Sherane Lamar on Jun 21, 2018 20:01:24 GMT -5
So how do we think sales will do next for Scorpion? I mean since Drake took part in X’s death according to Twitter. Ridiculous conspiracy theories for mouth breathers. Will have even less of an impact than the Pusha T/secret child/black face thing.
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Jun 21, 2018 20:03:20 GMT -5
I may be wrong but if I remember correctly, Prince died Thursday afternoon.
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Post by TakeMe on Jun 21, 2018 20:04:33 GMT -5
Would Drakes selling over 2 or 3 million copies first week with his upcoming album be a possibility in any of you guys heads?
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Post by TakeMe on Jun 21, 2018 20:09:07 GMT -5
Good! Let's break Soko's record! Which Prince already broke back when he died when "Purple Rain" and "When Doves Cry" reentered the Top 10 at #4 and #8 respectively, so X would be breaking Prince's record Who the hell is Soko?
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Post by Angel on Jun 21, 2018 20:27:51 GMT -5
Would Drakes selling over 2 or 3 million copies first week with his upcoming album be a possibility in any of you guys heads? I think a million SPS is in the bag. Views did a million SPS and streaming has certainly only grown since then. It helps that he has a nice pair of massive hits that will help if they find their way onto Scorpion.
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Post by imbondz on Jun 21, 2018 20:34:45 GMT -5
Which Prince already broke back when he died when "Purple Rain" and "When Doves Cry" reentered the Top 10 at #4 and #8 respectively, so X would be breaking Prince's record Who the hell is Soko? A singer who benefitted from weird Billboard rules at the time.
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Post by korbel16 on Jun 21, 2018 20:49:58 GMT -5
it did 4 million on monday US YT streams... im guessing 6 million on tuesday.... then 3-4 on wednesday and thursday which will give it 17 million from youtube which will be a total of 42 million streams compared to cardi's around 32 million.... i think sad will sell about 28k to i like it's 30k so i think they should be even in sales... so sad has a 10 million edge in streaming... but i like it has a 80million audience advantage on radio.... so him getting the #1 over her solely based on streaming would be so ridiculous .... 80 million audience advantage? It's something like 61-65M. is that a bad thing or a good thing
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Post by Sherane Lamar on Jun 21, 2018 21:13:05 GMT -5
Which Prince already broke back when he died when "Purple Rain" and "When Doves Cry" reentered the Top 10 at #4 and #8 respectively, so X would be breaking Prince's record Who the hell is Soko? Soko is the singer of a song called "I Might Be Dead By Tomorrow" which debuted at #9 on the Hot 100 in early 2014, due to going viral on YouTube, and then fell off the chart completely the next week. Like I said, it's the weakest Top 10 of all time. And it's the strongest song to ever spend only one week on the Hot 100. A singer who benefitted from weird Billboard rules at the time. I don't think it was really Billboard's rules. Although YouTube power might have been a little bit OP, or poorly balanced at the time. Do you know exactly how many streams Soko got on YouTube the week that it charted?
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Post by kimberly on Jun 21, 2018 21:28:33 GMT -5
In other chart news, The Light Is Coming is kinda a flop It's a promo single though, so it's fine I guess. I'll give her a pass.
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Post by Au$tin on Jun 21, 2018 22:14:13 GMT -5
A singer who benefitted from weird Billboard rules at the time. The rules at the time are the same as now. There was a viral video with the track used in the background and the views of the video were tracked as part of the song's streaming. The same thing could still happen today, we just haven't had a viral video in a while that wasn't just a plain music video already.
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Post by davidjl123 on Jun 21, 2018 22:44:55 GMT -5
The rules at the time are the same as now. There was a viral video with the track used in the background and the views of the video were tracked as part of the song's streaming. The same thing could still happen today, we just haven't had a viral video in a while that wasn't just a plain music video already. The viral video in question is "First Kiss"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2018 23:09:33 GMT -5
So how do we think sales will do next for Scorpion? I mean since Drake took part in X’s death according to Twitter. That nonsense doesnt really affect anything at all. Same as with every controversy the internet generates against him, the people that weren't listening to him before this wont listen and those who do will continue to do so Probably 750 - 950k sps And how much pure sales? 200K?
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Post by Sherane Lamar on Jun 21, 2018 23:16:47 GMT -5
A singer who benefitted from weird Billboard rules at the time. The rules at the time are the same as now. There was a viral video with the track used in the background and the views of the video were tracked as part of the song's streaming. The same thing could still happen today, we just haven't had a viral video in a while that wasn't just a plain music video already. I do think YouTube had more power in 2013 and 2014. There were a ton of songs like that in those two years. Although none as extreme as SoKo's. These days, viral hits behave very differently.
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Post by iHype. on Jun 21, 2018 23:25:51 GMT -5
Would Drakes selling over 2 or 3 million copies first week with his upcoming album be a possibility in any of you guys heads? Lol have you seen the pure sales for ANY other Rap albums the past year.
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Post by braveheart on Jun 21, 2018 23:30:54 GMT -5
Atlantic is definitely pushing for the #1 for the week after -
Discounted now on itunes/ Lyric Video now out... and Dillon Francis remix out... big final push this week !
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Post by iHype. on Jun 21, 2018 23:34:20 GMT -5
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Post by Mayman on Jun 21, 2018 23:48:09 GMT -5
That nonsense doesnt really affect anything at all. Same as with every controversy the internet generates against him, the people that weren't listening to him before this wont listen and those who do will continue to do so Probably 750 - 950k sps And how much pure sales? 200K? Views did over 800k pure sales. I'd say 400-500k is my prediction, but I'm just grabbing those numbers out of the air. I'm not sure really.
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 22, 2018 0:21:37 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, how many streams Drake would need to get 1m on streaming only?
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Post by iHype. on Jun 22, 2018 0:23:42 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, how many streams Drake would need to get 1m on streaming only? 1.5 billion Views (2016) did 245m, More Life (2017) did 385m. So yeah, even half of that isn't really realistic.
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Post by hot100predictions on Jun 22, 2018 0:41:33 GMT -5
Scorpion will be a two side album (A + B). Something coming June 28th before the album release on June 29th.
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 22, 2018 1:04:31 GMT -5
I bet he's gonna mess up the album release lol
(From chart point of view)
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