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Post by newpower on Jun 29, 2018 13:45:44 GMT -5
does this mean that the Blurred Lines people can sue Ed Sheeran too? Why would they? Different songs, different influences. I don't know, transitivity... These lawsuits are so ridiculous. Everything is possible.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jun 29, 2018 14:30:21 GMT -5
Why would they? Different songs, different influences. I don't know, transitivity... These lawsuits are so ridiculous. Everything is possible. Nah, it ain't happening. I bet Pharrell and Robin would rather pluck their eyes out than have anything to do with Nona ever again.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jun 29, 2018 14:34:50 GMT -5
The simplest thing that Ed Sheeran (and any other artist) can do is *gasp* come up with an original song. Or if one must draw inspiration from a song from the past, give proper credit and get the proper permissions. Chances are that once a song is recorded and played for others, someone is bound to notice similarities between it and some other song if such similarities exist, specially in a case where the song it's resembling is so well-known. But you're working on the assumption that it's an intentional copy they know about. I think it's perfectly reasonable that unconsciously artists would create something similar to what they've heard before. As musicians there's probably a lot floating around in their head. Additionally, there are some chords and even melodies that are just so common no one really 'owns' them. It's all complicated. Having said that, surely there are people paid to say whether or not it seems similar to something else.
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Post by emerald on Jun 29, 2018 18:51:31 GMT -5
I'm surprised none of these people gone after Miguel for "Adorn" Yet.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Jun 30, 2018 12:40:10 GMT -5
I'm surprised none of these people gone after Miguel for "Adorn" Yet. Don't give them any ideas
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Post by Hashtag Pow on Jun 30, 2018 21:52:44 GMT -5
I always thought the song sampled it. I never knew it was uncredited. I don't see the issue. This isn't Ed's first go-round with this.
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 1, 2018 8:09:05 GMT -5
The funny thing is "TOL" won Song of the Year, so clearly other artists didn't care.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2018 9:28:18 GMT -5
Imagine if Madonna sued Gaga. It's just tacky. The Gayes just look like the estate of a dead artist who apparently need money. Unless it's a note-for-note carbon copy or uncredited sample (Ice Ice Baby, for example) it's just a bad move. I don't think Marvin would approve of what his estate is doing, personally. He's an influential artist - there are going to be similar songs to his. This goes for any artist who has made a large and influential impact.
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Post by SHOOTER on Jan 4, 2019 3:59:44 GMT -5
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jan 4, 2019 7:00:49 GMT -5
If Robin paid it's fair to make Ed pay too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2019 10:03:59 GMT -5
fuck the estate's couch, yadda yadda yadda
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2019 10:10:53 GMT -5
I also wonder if this is another situation where Ed and co. tried to settle quietly and couldn't b/c the estate was being overly demanding and hostile. Sucks if so b/c that will more than likely be used against Ed in front of a jury when it should really be called out to highlight an emerging pattern of greed on the part of the estate.
I still maintain that music plagiarism lawsuits should not go before juries, but plaintiffs' teams of course want it to go to a jury for the very reasons it shouldn't.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jan 4, 2019 10:54:57 GMT -5
The issue here is that a jury has already established a precedent, so it's going to be easier for these plaintiffs to win these suits.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Jan 4, 2019 11:37:44 GMT -5
I’d feel more strongly about these types of lawsuits when the artist is bringing the action. When it’s a bunch of money grubbing heirs who created nothing... With this group, I’d love it if someone sued the estate claiming MG copied an old R&B song, but I’m sure all relevant statute of limitations have long passed.
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Post by Glove Slap on Jan 4, 2019 13:16:30 GMT -5
f**k the estate's couchrip off nona's nipples, yadda yadda yadda
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Post by Choco on Jan 4, 2019 13:56:11 GMT -5
TBH wishing Ed the best of luck because I think the Marvin Gaye estate is just a pack greedy bastards.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Jan 4, 2019 14:50:16 GMT -5
Naw, Ed deserves this one. Right now he's 1 for 1 or 2 for 2 when it comes to quietly settling and THAN giving credit after blatantly ripping something off. Robin's case was different because there was no similarity in the musical composition but it did copy the "essence" which was total bullsh!t. Nona is a greedy bitch though and needs to find a real job.
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Post by myhouse911 on Jan 6, 2019 13:42:39 GMT -5
Maybe I read the article wrong, but I didn't see where this is Marvin Gaye's estate suing, instead I saw it as the co-writer's estate, aka Ed Townsend's. I'm unsure as to why there are multiple posts directed at the Gaye estate for this specific lawsuit.
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 10, 2022 10:40:54 GMT -5
I heard The Commodores' "Nightshift" today and was reminded they literally sing part of "What's Going On" in the song, right after referencing Marvin by name. I don't see where Gaye and the other writers of "WGO" were credited. That was in the 80s before this all became a thing, but I wonder if Gaye's family ever went back and asked for royalties.
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Post by jdanton2 on Oct 10, 2022 11:36:41 GMT -5
I heard The Commodores' "Nightshift" today and was reminded they literally sing part of "What's Going On" in the song, right after referencing Marvin by name. I don't see where Gaye and the other writers of "WGO" were credited. That was in the 80s before this all became a thing, but I wonder if Gaye's family ever went back and asked for royalties. the song was partly a tribute to him less than a year after he died. the song was also a tribute to Jackie Wilson who had died in the previous year as well. titles of a couple of his songs as well as his name were also mentioned in the song.
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 10, 2022 12:19:33 GMT -5
I heard The Commodores' "Nightshift" today and was reminded they literally sing part of "What's Going On" in the song, right after referencing Marvin by name. I don't see where Gaye and the other writers of "WGO" were credited. That was in the 80s before this all became a thing, but I wonder if Gaye's family ever went back and asked for royalties. the song was partly a tribute to him less than a year after he died. the song was also a tribute to Jackie Wilson who had died in the previous year as well. titles of a couple of his songs as well as his name were also mentioned in the song. Yup, and as I said, they sing part of "WGO" ("Aw talk to me / so you can see / what's going on"). Jackie and his songs are referenced in verse 2, but I'm not sure if an actual part of his songs are sung. In 2022 (or even 2002) they would have had to add Gaye and his co-writers as writers because of that line.
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Post by wjr15 on May 2, 2023 6:58:37 GMT -5
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Post by Ling-Ling on May 4, 2023 12:19:50 GMT -5
Ed Sheeran won the lawsuit.
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Post by dbhmr on May 4, 2023 12:21:38 GMT -5
Amusing as the Twitter response was to his (surely empty) threat, this is the right decision and I'm glad they went this way.
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Post by Active Aggressive on May 4, 2023 16:32:03 GMT -5
Good for Ed. It was smart of him to bring the guitar and actually demonstrate his process. To an earlier point, I don't know of any chord progressions that haven't been used to death in some fashion or another. Nona Gaye deserves to be placed in a special circle of hell where headphones playing Crazy Frog on endless loop are sewn onto her ears and her nipples are repeatedly ripped off. Add a hyena ripping her genitals to shreds for all eternity for good measure. I want it to be a scene that will make Antichrist look G-rated in comparison. f**k the estate's couchrip off nona's nipples, yadda yadda yadda Yikes! How was this allowed??
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Post by Glove Slap on May 4, 2023 16:47:21 GMT -5
Great news. Hopefully this serves as some kind of deterrent to these kinds of lawsuits.
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Post by Az Paynter on May 4, 2023 21:28:14 GMT -5
Thank god he won. The Gaye estate already did more than enough damage with the 'Blurred Lines' suit as is.
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Post by shayonce on May 5, 2023 3:30:51 GMT -5
I heard it wasn't Gaye estate who sued him, but co-writer of the song.
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Post by Az Paynter on May 5, 2023 4:25:45 GMT -5
^ A distinction without a difference, in this case. In either case, the plaintiff had no business winning - which is why the 'Blurred Lines' lawsuit set such a terrible precedent that I'm glad didn't follow onto this case's verdict.
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Post by cking33 on May 8, 2023 17:05:41 GMT -5
This was a good thing Ed Sheeran won this. The Blurred Lines case was ridiculous. There are plenty of songs out there that overlap in similarity, thanks in large part to chord structure, not just these two. Would've been a horrible precedent to set/continue if he lost.
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