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Post by hot100predictions on Jul 7, 2018 13:53:11 GMT -5
Drake’s label really should discount In My Feelings, it would #1 for sure then in two weeks.
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Post by fhas on Jul 7, 2018 13:59:04 GMT -5
Bad (1987/88)
I Just Can't Stop Loving You - 1 week at #1
Bad - 2 weeks at #1
The Way You Make Me Feel - 1 week at #1
Man in the Mirror - 2 weeks at #1
Dirty Diana - 1 week at #1
1987: 29 number-ones
1988: 32 number-ones
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Teenage Dream (2010/11)
California Gurls - 6 weeks at #1
Teenage Dream - 2 weeks at #1
Firework - 4 weeks at #1
E.T. - 5 weeks at #1
Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.) - 2 weeks at #1
2010: 17 number-ones
2011: 13 number-ones
It was much easier to hit #1 in the late-1980s/early-2010s. Let's see what Drake can do in 2018.
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Jul 7, 2018 14:30:41 GMT -5
Wow all the #1s from Bad only have 1-2 weeks. Both of Drake’s got 7+ weeks so far.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 14:39:45 GMT -5
Wow all the #1s from Bad only have 1-2 weeks. Both of Drake’s got 7+ weeks so far. True, but turnover was much quicker in the 80s due to how data was collected. Longevity in general was much shorter, with most big hit songs lasting less than 20 weeks on the Hot 100. Monster smashes Billie Jean and Beat It, for example, had 7 and 3 weeks at #1, respectively, but both worked their ways off the chart within 24 weeks. Like a Virgin spent 6 weeks on top, and fell off after spending its 19th and final week at #100. |
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Post by Gary on Jul 7, 2018 14:48:17 GMT -5
Still think we need the third and fourth #1 before we start looking at the fifth
(Yes the third will likely hit next week but...how many of these songs will still be around in time for #5)
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Post by dovahduck on Jul 7, 2018 14:51:20 GMT -5
“Man in the Mirror” and “Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.)” were the best number one singles of their respective albums in my opinion.
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Post by jebsib on Jul 7, 2018 15:05:24 GMT -5
All of Katy Perry's #1 singles were bigger than Michael's within the context of their day - except possibly Man in the Mirror.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 15:06:04 GMT -5
I've listened to Nonstop Many Times what do people like about that song ? Because of the production lyrics and flow |
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Post by iHype. on Jul 7, 2018 18:23:22 GMT -5
All of Katy Perry's #1 singles were bigger than Michael's within the context of their day - except possibly Man in the Mirror. And honestly albums were getting back to back hits 1988-1991 like hotcakes. There was definitely an ‘advantage’ then (seemed like labels just had obvious influence if you asked me). |
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Post by renfield75 on Jul 7, 2018 22:25:29 GMT -5
All of Katy Perry's #1 singles were bigger than Michael's within the context of their day - except possibly Man in the Mirror. And honestly albums were getting back to back hits 1988-1991 like hotcakes. There was definitely an ‘advantage’ then (seemed like labels just had obvious influence if you asked me). MJ's label was definitely working hard for those number ones, especially that record-setting 5th one: "Dirty Diana" had the shortest top ten/Hot 100 combo run of any number one song during the entire 1980s (5 weeks and 14 weeks, respectively). Payola? Maybe, but as a teenager when "Dirty Diana" was popular it certainly did feel like a big hit to me. |
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Post by iHype. on Jul 7, 2018 22:41:48 GMT -5
And honestly albums were getting back to back hits 1988-1991 like hotcakes. There was definitely an ‘advantage’ then (seemed like labels just had obvious influence if you asked me). MJ's label was definitely working hard for those number ones, especially that record-setting 5th one: "Dirty Diana" had the shortest top ten/Hot 100 combo run of any number one song during the entire 1980s (5 weeks and 14 weeks, respectively). Payola? Maybe, but as a teenager when "Dirty Diana" was popular it certainly did feel like a big hit to me. All the Bad number ones seemed to have had average/below average runs for a #1 hit pre-Soundscan. pulsemusic.proboards.com/thread/174043/hot-100-1-ranked-pointsOut of the 761 pre-Soundscan #1 hits, these were the Bad #1's rankings: 358 MAN IN THE MIRROR (by Michael Jackson) 0.97 1988 606 THE WAY YOU MAKE ME FEEL (by Michael Jackson) 0.83 1988 657 I JUST CAN'T STOP LOVING YOU (by Michael Jackson And Siedah Garrett) 0.78 1987 681 BAD (by Michael Jackson) 0.75 1987 709 DIRTY DIANA (by Michael Jackson) 0.71 1988 4/5 in the bottom 20-percentile, and 3/5 in the bottom 15-percentile. Of the 9 albums with 4-5 #1's, 6/9 were from 1988-1991. 5 - Michael Jackson — Bad 1987-1988 5 - Teenage Dream, Katy Perry 2010-2011 4 - Bee Gees/Yvonne Elliman — Saturday Night Fever 1977-1978 4 - Whitney Houston — Whitney 1987-1988
4 - George Michael — Faith 1987-1988
4 - Paula Abdul — Forever Your Girl 1989-1990
4 - Janet Jackson — Rhythm Nation 1814 1989-1991
4 - Mariah Carey — Mariah Carey 1990-19914 - Usher — Confessions 2004 Also similar with albums that have most top 10s, 4/7 from 1988-1991. Born In The USA Bruce Springsteen 7 Rhythm Nation Janet Jackson 7Thriller Michael Jackson 7 Bad Michael Jackson 6
Faith George Michael 6
Janet. Janet Jackson 6Teenage Dream, Katy Perry 6 6 albums had 4-5 #1's in 3 years, then for the next 12 years after not a single album did it again. 4 albums had 6-7 top 10s in 3 years, then for the next 18 years no album did it again. That along with the absolute rapid turnover of the charts coincidentally from 1988-1991 says enough to me about the records (not to completely discredit the blockbusters then though, as many were probably very huge even if inflated a bit). |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2018 0:57:22 GMT -5
There's no question in my mind that pre-soundscan charts were incredibly manipulated from every angle. There was no reason for them not to be.
That said, the songs that topped the charts were definitely huge at the time. Peaks are overrated, but overall, general placement felt right in most cases.
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Post by emperortigerstar on Jul 8, 2018 1:41:24 GMT -5
Nonstop hitting #1 this week is the only way Drake will be able to tie MJ/Katy Perry’s record for most #1s on 1 album. I mean... he'd still need 2 more number ones first. |
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Post by kanfad on Jul 8, 2018 5:49:31 GMT -5
SCORPION WEEK RECORDS
1. Most number of songs in the top ten in a single week 2. Most number of debuts in the top ten in a single week 3. Most number of debuts in the top ten ever 4. Most number of top ten songs in 2018 5. Most number of top ten songs in a single calender year 6. Most number of songs in the top 20 in a single week 7. Most number of debuts in the top 20 in a single week 8. Most number of songs to reach the top 20 ever 9. Most number of songs in the top 40 in a single week 10. Most number of debuts in the top 40 in a single week 11. Most number of songs to reach the top 40 ever 12. Most number of songs on the hot 100 in a single week 13. Most number of debuts on the hot 100 in a single week IF Nonestop does debut at #1, here are some more records Drake is going to break; 1. Gets his 6th No 1 on the Hot 100, breaking his tie with Justin Bieber for the most among Canadians. 2. Gets his 6th number No 1 on the Hot 100, breaking his tie with Eminem, Diddy and Ludacris for the most among rappers. 3. Becomes only the 5th/6th (Michael Jackson currently has 29) act to have at least 30 top ten songs on the hot 100. 4. Extends his record for the most top tens on the Hot 100 this decade 5. Extends his own record for the most Hot 100 entries among soloists. 6. Scorpion becomes the only rap album with more than two No 1 songs. 7. Gets his record extending 20th No 1 song on the Hot Rap Songs chart, exactly double the acts in second place (Lil Wayne and Diddy). 8. Gets his 19th No 1 on the Hot RnB/HipHop Songs chart, trailing only Aretha Franklin and Stevie Wonder with 20 each. 9. Gets his record extending 6th No 1 on the Streaming Songs chart. 10. Gets his 26th week at No 1 on the Streaming Songs chart, breaking his 2nd place tie with Miley Cyrus and trailing only Justin Bieber in more weeks with 28. 11. Gets his record extending 10th No 1 on the On-Demand Songs chart. 12. Simultaneously occupying the top two positions on the Hot 100 for the second time in a calendar year 13. Having a non single reach No 1 on the Hot 100
Hes going to do about half of these whether or not Nonstop gets that #1 debut The Hot 100 article this week is going to be so stacked |
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Post by badrobot on Jul 8, 2018 7:18:11 GMT -5
Regarding the “non-single to hit #1” claim — Nelly and Kelly rowland’s “Dilemma” is arguably the first to do that. That song was not scheduled as a single yet and it flew to the top ten without promotion, and most of the “standard” single promotion stuff happened after it had already hit #1. Had streaming existed (or even digital sales) it may have also had a #1 debut.
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Post by thelegends on Jul 8, 2018 7:18:35 GMT -5
Nonstop hitting #1 this week is the only way Drake will be able to tie MJ/Katy Perry’s record for most #1s on 1 album. I mean... he'd still need 2 more number ones first. Don't Matter To Me, In My Feelings, and I'm Upset. |
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Post by Gary on Jul 8, 2018 7:58:56 GMT -5
Not a given in any way, in fact, very possible three #1's will be it.
The singles are already available, the initial hype will wear off soon and these songs may not have the power to stay around long enough to wait for hit #3 or even hit #4 to finish its run.
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Post by Gary on Jul 8, 2018 8:12:27 GMT -5
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Post by Mayman on Jul 8, 2018 8:34:42 GMT -5
I mean... he'd still need 2 more number ones first. Don't Matter To Me, In My Feelings, and I'm Upset. I doubt I'm Upset will #1 as it will most likely gets it peak this week. |
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Post by hot100predictions on Jul 8, 2018 8:47:38 GMT -5
Early predictions thread up for next week's chart! Good luck  ))))))))! |
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Jul 8, 2018 8:51:38 GMT -5
Not a given in any way, in fact, very possible three #1's will be it. The singles are already available, the initial hype will wear off soon and these songs may not have the power to stay around long enough to wait for hit #3 or even hit #4 t9o finish its run. If Nonstop does indeed debut at one tomorrow, 4 is just about locked. Unless something bigger than In My Feelings drops immediately. Its currently the number one streaming and downloaded song. Its not like this is first week hype still, look at the 20 some songs that fell off quickly for that. If its radio play is even remotely good, it'll be number one in about 2 weeks |
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Jul 8, 2018 8:54:07 GMT -5
Nonstop hitting #1 this week is the only way Drake will be able to tie MJ/Katy Perry’s record for most #1s on 1 album. I mean... he'd still need 2 more number ones first. In My Feelings will very likely hit #1 and if they get 4 #1s, Drake's label will push really hard for a 5th, probably discounting it and dropping a music video the same week. |
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Post by Gary on Jul 8, 2018 9:04:14 GMT -5
Hmmm...I guess my crystal ball is a little fuzzier. I can't predict 3 #1's into the future that well.
Lots of factors come into play...
-long running #1's
-People might listen to songs that don't have Drake on it
-Although it can certainly happen, it is rare, when all the singles are available from the get-go to have that many #1's from an album
You guys though, may also be right. Just too many variables for me to agree with the '4 is on lock, now the label just needs to campaign for 5 to tie Katy Perry" theory at this point, when the number currently is 2.
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Post by jtd Thee Stallion on Jul 8, 2018 9:12:01 GMT -5
In My Feelings is definitely hitting #1 I can’t see how it won’t
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Post by Abbaschand on Jul 8, 2018 9:24:37 GMT -5
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Post by Soulsista on Jul 8, 2018 10:14:17 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago:
July 13, 1963
01 01 Easier Said Than Done - The Essex (2nd and final week at #1)
02 07 Surf City - Jan & Dean
03 10 Tie Me Kangaroo Down, Sport - Rolf Harris
04 09 So Much In Love - The Tymes
05 06 One Fine Day - The Chiffons
06 02 Sukiyaki - Kyu Sakamoto
07 08 Memphis - Lonnie Mack
08 03 Blue On Blue - Bobby Vinton
09 04 Hello Stranger - Barbara Lewis
10 17 Wipe Out - The Surfaris
16 49 (You're The) Devil In Disguise - Elvis Presley
July 13, 1968
01 01 This Guy's In Love With You - Herb Alpert (4th and final week at #1)
02 02 The Horse - Cliff Nobles & Co.
03 03 Jumpin' Jack Flash - The Rolling Stones
04 06 Lady Willpower - Gary Puckett & The Union Gap
05 05 Grazing In The Grass - Hugh Masekela
06 04 The Look Of Love - Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66
07 07 Angel Of The Morning - Merilee Rush & The Turnabouts
08 17 Stoned Soul Picnic - The 5th Dimension
09 08 Here Comes The Judge - Shorty Long
10 15 Indian Lake - The Cowsills
22 77 Hello, I Love You - The Doors
July 14, 1973
01 01 Will It Go Round In Circles - Billy Preston (2nd and final week at #1)
02 02 Kodachrome - Paul Simon
03 05 Bad, Bad Leroy Brown - Jim Croce
04 07 Shambala - Three Dog Night
05 04 Give Me Love (Give Me Peace On Earth) - George Harrison
06 08 Yesterday Once More - The Carpenters
07 06 Playground In My Mind - Clint Holmes
08 11 Smoke On The Water - Deep Purple
09 03 My Love - Paul McCartney & Wings
10 09 Right Place, Wrong Time - Dr. John
July 15, 1978
01 01 Shadow Dancing - Andy Gibb (5th of 7 weeks at #1)
02 02 Baker Street - Gerry Rafferty
03 03 Take a Chance On Me - ABBA
04 04 Use Ta Be My Girl - The O'Jays
05 05 Still The Same - Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band
06 07 Miss You - The Rolling Stones
07 09 The Groove Line - Heatwave
08 08 Dance With Me - Peter Brown w/Betty Wright
09 06 It's a Heartache - Bonnie Tyler
10 13 Last Dance - Donna Summer
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Post by slw84 on Jul 8, 2018 10:26:43 GMT -5
I mean... he'd still need 2 more number ones first. In My Feelings will very likely hit #1 and if they get 4 #1s, Drake's label will push really hard for a 5th, probably discounting it and dropping a music video the same week. This. Also, I don't understand what Maroon 5 is waiting for. They could actually hit #1 for a week if they discounted it and did a late night or morning talk show for promo. But I'm here for Gods plan, Nice for what, Nonstop and In my feelings hitting #1. Then the MJ song MUST be pushed for the 5th #1 and the Mariah carey song MUST be pushed with a new version of Mariah's vocals or something to get her a feature credit and this song must be the 6th #1. I won't accept any other option but summer games is still a vibe and would make a great closer album. I'd like drake to perform the MJ song at the vmas or amas and perform the mariah song WITH mariah at the grammys |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2018 10:28:16 GMT -5
As I expected, Drake essentially butchers the charts with another decent but not all that album
Smh, disappointed but not surprised
I just hope to god most of these don't have longevity, but I fear they will
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Post by Soulsista on Jul 8, 2018 10:31:45 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:
July 16, 1983
01 01 Every Breath You Take - The Police (2nd of 8 weeks at #1)
02 02 Electric Avenue - Eddy Grant
03 03 Flashdance...What a Feeling - Irene Cara
04 04 Never Gonna Let You Go - Sergio Mendes w/Joe Pizzulo & Leza Miller
05 06 Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' - Michael Jackson
06 08 Come Dancing - The Kinks
07 05 Too Shy - Kajagoogoo
08 10 Our House - Madness
09 13 Is There Something I Should Know - Duran Duran
10 07 Time (Clock Of The Heart) - Culture Club
July 16, 1988
01 01 The Flame - Cheap Trick (2nd and final week at #1)
02 02 Mercedes Boy - Pebbles
03 03 Pour Some Sugar On Me - Def Leppard
04 04 New Sensation - INXS
05 08 Hold On To The Nights - Richard Marx
06 12 Roll With It - Steve Winwood
07 10 Nite And Day - Al B. Sure!
08 14 Hands To Heaven - Breathe
09 16 Make Me Lose Control - Eric Carmen
10 06 Nothin' But a Good Time - Poison
July 17, 1993
01 01 Weak - SWV (2nd and final week at #1)
02 04 Can't Help Falling In Love - UB40
03 03 Whoomp! (There It Is) - Tag Team
04 02 That's The Way Love Goes - Janet Jackson
05 05 Knockin' Da Boots - H-Town
06 07 Have I Told You Lately - Rod Stewart
07 06 Show Me Love - Robin S
08 09 I'll Never Get Over You (Getting Over Me) - Expose
09 18 I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles) - The Proclaimers
10 08 Dre Day - Dr. Dre
July 11, 1998
01 01 The Boy Is Mine - Brandy & Monica (6th of 13 weeks at #1)
02 02 You're Still The One - Shania Twain
03 03 Too Close - Next
04 05 My Way - Usher
05 NE Ray Of Light - Madonna
06 07 Adia - Sarah McLachlan
07 06 Come With Me - Puff Daddy feat. Jimmy Page
08 04 My All - Mariah Carey
09 09 They Don't Know - Jon B.
10 08 Everybody (Backstreet's Back) - The Backstreet Boys
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Post by garrettlen on Jul 8, 2018 10:33:03 GMT -5
In My Feelings will very likely hit #1 and if they get 4 #1s, Drake's label will push really hard for a 5th, probably discounting it and dropping a music video the same week. This. Also, I don't understand what Maroon 5 is waiting for. They could actually hit #1 for a week if they discounted it and did a late night or morning talk show for promo. But I'm here for Gods plan, Nice for what, Nonstop and In my feelings hitting #1. Then the MJ song MUST be pushed for the 5th #1 and the Mariah carey song MUST be pushed with a new version of Mariah's vocals or something to get her a feature credit and this song must be the 6th #1. I won't accept any other option but summer games is still a vibe and would make a great closer album. I'd like drake to perform the MJ song at the vmas or amas and perform the mariah song WITH mariah at the grammys Yeah, let's just say I think it's highly unlikely that Mariah will add new vocals for a featuring credit on anything anytime soon; that's just not her style. |
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