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Post by brady47 on Jul 6, 2018 18:23:25 GMT -5
Where the first three releases off the album peaked almost immediately upon release, "Delicate" has gradually swelled to arguably her most popular single off the set to date. We love an organic sleeper hit! |
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Jul 6, 2018 19:01:42 GMT -5
LWYMMD was by the far the most popular from the album.Everyone heard it and knew about it, it just didn’t stick because no one wanted to hear it after first listen because it was terrible. The music video broke the record for most views in the first 24 hours and was very controversial. Delicate isn’t near big.
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Post by brady47 on Jul 6, 2018 19:20:11 GMT -5
LWYMMD was by the far the most popular from the album.Everyone heard it and knew about it, it just didn’t stick because no one wanted to hear it after first listen because it was terrible. The music video broke the record for most views in the first 24 hours and was very controversial. Delicate isn’t near big. Definitely true. The 3 weeks at #1 alone make it bigger than any other song of Reputation. Pretty sure Ready For It? was also bigger than Delicate. But in terms of radio support, it's no question that Delicate was her biggest hit since Wildest Dreams |
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Post by fhas on Jul 6, 2018 19:22:18 GMT -5
LWYMMD was by the far the most popular from the album.Everyone heard it and knew about it, it just didn’t stick because no one wanted to hear it after first listen because it was terrible. The music video broke the record for most views in the first 24 hours and was very controversial. Delicate isn’t near big. THIS. We are in the streaming era and Delicate is not in the top 200 on Spotify/Apple Music. LWYMMD broke records on streaming services and spent three weeks at #1 on the Hot 100 with the first one being the biggest week in points since Hello. |
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Post by badrobot on Jul 6, 2018 20:09:03 GMT -5
Delicate (which I haven’t heard, for the record) is such an interesting example of how different the purpose/function of radio is, and how polarized radio and steaming are.
Radio, ultimately, is driven by *inaction* — they play songs that they hope don’t make you want to change the channel. A song doesn’t have to be beloved to do well, it simply has to be not disliked. While radio is the least “direct” metric, it’s also the only one that takes into account dislike by measuring “burnout” and using score rankings with call outs. So you could say that a song that does well in airplay is probably reasonably well-liked by a big chunk of the population, even if it’s not necessarily passionately loved by many.
Streaming is the exact opposite — it doesn’t take into account dislike at all. So you could have 2 million people streaming a song 50 times a week and get a streaming #1, but if the other 300+ million people in the country hate the song (or more likely, have never heard it) they don’t have any impact. (And to be honest, they shouldn’t, since this is the commercial side.)
This is why I’m glad the Hot 100 balances both.
Radio = palatability/reach.
Streaming = passion/intensity.
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Post by brady47 on Jul 6, 2018 20:24:02 GMT -5
Delicate (which I haven’t heard, for the record) is such an interesting example of how different the purpose/function of radio is, and how polarized radio and steaming are. Radio, ultimately, is driven by *inaction* — they play songs that they hope don’t make you want to change the channel. A song doesn’t have to be beloved to do well, it simply has to be not disliked. While radio is the least “direct” metric, it’s also the only one that takes into account dislike by measuring “burnout” and using score rankings with call outs. So you could say that a song that does well in airplay is probably reasonably well-liked by a big chunk of the population, even if it’s not necessarily passionately loved by many. Streaming is the exact opposite — it doesn’t take into account dislike at all. So you could have 2 million people streaming a song 50 times a week and get a streaming #1, but if the other 300+ million people in the country hate the song (or more likely, have never heard it) they don’t have any impact. (And to be honest, they shouldn’t, since this is the commercial side.) This is why I’m glad the Hot 100 balances both. Radio = palatability/reach. Streaming = passion/intensity. Yes! Radio is actually such an interesting metric - especially when songs do well on it but not on other formats, and vice-versa For example, there's so many random examples that intrigue me - example Work was the bigger Rihanna/Drake duet, but on airplay, it was the complete opposite situation with What's My Name being #1 on airplay for 7 weeks, and Work only getting 1 week at #2. Anti actually didn't have mega radio hits (the highest year end airplay song was "Love on the Brain" at #16), but she was a radio monster with Loud (Only Girl In the World, What's My Name), Talk That Talk (We Found Love, Where Have You Been) and Unapologetic (Diamonds, Stay). Also the lowest peaking Hot 100 #1 songs on the year end airplay chart - Avril Lavigne's Girlfriend (#74), Fergie's London Bridge (#75) - amazing how such huge digital hits can be airplay bombs. Born This Way peaking at #1 on airplay in 6 weeks and crashing on radio right after (only hitting #40 on the year end airplay chart which was lower than any single she released from The Fame - including Lovegame & Alejandro) |
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Post by lugus15 on Jul 6, 2018 21:48:07 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't know why Lucid Dreams is the one single of JuiceWorld that is smashing, when All Girls Are the Same is way superior, even beautiful I may say.
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Post by rimetm on Jul 6, 2018 23:08:10 GMT -5
Updates on the #1 race:
Nonstop v Nice for What
19k v 19k
58.5m v 33.0m
0m v 128.5m (Kworb numbers projected, I believe it’d be about 95-100m on Billboard?)
So the big question here is “does it take 4 or more radio listens to equal an on-demand stream?”. Considering the majority of these will be benefitting from the new stream weights, I think this might be a confirmation of Nonstop’s high probability to lead after all!
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Post by forg on Jul 7, 2018 1:30:36 GMT -5
Rooting for Nice for What for #1
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Post by Enigma. on Jul 7, 2018 1:43:14 GMT -5
Drake's new set Scorpion has become the first album to hit 1 billion streams globally across all streaming platforms in a single week, industry sources have confirmed to Billboard. In all, Scorpion's tracks accumulated more than 1 billion streams globally in the most recent tracking week (June 29-July 5), the set's first week available, making it the first album to reach the milestone. Previously, Post Malone's beerbongs & bentleys held the global record with just under 700 million streams (April 27-May 3), according to industry insiders. Additionally, Scorpion scored over 750 million streams U.S.-only in its first seven days, according to sources This just demonstrates how US and Canada-based his album success is. And UK to some extent but it didn't come close to any records there |
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Post by Naos on Jul 7, 2018 2:14:57 GMT -5
Delicate (which I haven’t heard, for the record) is such an interesting example of how different the purpose/function of radio is, and how polarized radio and steaming are. Radio, ultimately, is driven by *inaction* — they play songs that they hope don’t make you want to change the channel. A song doesn’t have to be beloved to do well, it simply has to be not disliked. While radio is the least “direct” metric, it’s also the only one that takes into account dislike by measuring “burnout” and using score rankings with call outs. So you could say that a song that does well in airplay is probably reasonably well-liked by a big chunk of the population, even if it’s not necessarily passionately loved by many. Streaming is the exact opposite — it doesn’t take into account dislike at all. So you could have 2 million people streaming a song 50 times a week and get a streaming #1, but if the other 300+ million people in the country hate the song (or more likely, have never heard it) they don’t have any impact. (And to be honest, they shouldn’t, since this is the commercial side.) This is why I’m glad the Hot 100 balances both. Radio = palatability/reach. Streaming = passion/intensity. Yes! Radio is actually such an interesting metric - especially when songs do well on it but not on other formats, and vice-versa For example, there's so many random examples that intrigue me - example Work was the bigger Rihanna/Drake duet, but on airplay, it was the complete opposite situation with What's My Name being #1 on airplay for 7 weeks, and Work only getting 1 week at #2. Anti actually didn't have mega radio hits (the highest year end airplay song was "Love on the Brain" at #16), but she was a radio monster with Loud (Only Girl In the World, What's My Name), Talk That Talk (We Found Love, Where Have You Been) and Unapologetic (Diamonds, Stay). Also the lowest peaking Hot 100 #1 songs on the year end airplay chart - Avril Lavigne's Girlfriend (#74), Fergie's London Bridge (#75) - amazing how such huge digital hits can be airplay bombs. Born This Way peaking at #1 on airplay in 6 weeks and crashing on radio right after (only hitting #40 on the year end airplay chart which was lower than any single she released from The Fame - including Lovegame & Alejandro) More recent example would be "Lights Down Low". Radio LOVED that song, and while it eventually got certified Platinum, I can't say it did that well. Its radio play is more indicative of a mutli-platinum single. |
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Jul 7, 2018 7:16:11 GMT -5
So, I want to point out that Post Malone has now been in the Top 10 for 41 consecutive weeks now. However, considering the incoming Drake onslaught that's gonna happen next week, Post's streak will likely be broken.
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Jul 7, 2018 8:10:30 GMT -5
kworb.net/airadio/*** = Dropped or added a format Overall AI (Top 20) - 2018/07/071. (=) ZEDD/MAREN MORRIS/GREY - The Middle (141.899) (-0.651) 2. (=) TAYLOR SWIFT - Delicate (132.912) (+0.353) 3. (+1) ARIANA GRANDE - No Tears Left to Cry (130.496) (+1.463) 4. (-1) POST MALONE - Psycho f/Ty Dolla $ign (129.835) (+0.356) 5. (=) DRAKE - Nice for What (127.846) (-0.224) *** 6. (=) CARDI B/BAD BUNNY/J BALVIN - I Like It (120.794) (+2.854) 7. (=) CAMILA CABELLO - Never Be the Same (111.106) (-0.709) 8. (=) BAZZI - Mine (110.519) (+0.696) 9. (=) SHAWN MENDES - In My Blood (107.053) (-1.407) *** 10. (=) MARSHMELLO/ANNE-MARIE - Friends (96.842) (-1.468) *** 11. (+1) BEBE REXHA - Meant to Be f/Florida Georgia Line (95.040) (-0.063) 12. (-1) DRAKE - God's Plan (94.506) (-0.624) 13. (=) MAROON 5 - Girls Like You f/Cardi B (92.676) (+1.988) 14. (=) LAUV - I Like Me Better (80.511) (+0.949) 15. (=) ELLA MAI - Boo'd Up (80.330) (+1.429) 16. (=) ED SHEERAN - Perfect (78.586) (+0.169) 17. (=) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Whatever It Takes (75.077) (-0.044) 18. (=) DAN + SHAY - Tequila (72.267) (-0.336) 19. (=) DUA LIPA - New Rules (72.183) (+0.355) 20. (=) KENNY CHESNEY - Get Along (69.717) (+1.154) Outside the Top 20: 24. (=) KHALID X NORMANI - Love Lies (61.089) (+1.547) 29. (=) POST MALONE - Better Now (53.506) (+1.203)
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Post by roman1166 on Jul 7, 2018 8:49:51 GMT -5
1. (=) ZEDD/MAREN MORRIS/GREY - The Middle (141.899) (-0.651) 2. (=) TAYLOR SWIFT - Delicate (132.912) (+0.353) 3. (+1) ARIANA GRANDE - No Tears Left to Cry (130.496) (+1.463) Wow Delicate and NTLTC are giving us a good show here while the middle is just "hey, still here" |
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Post by Mayman on Jul 7, 2018 8:57:59 GMT -5
How long has The Middle been #1? I feel like it's been for half of the year.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Jul 7, 2018 8:59:03 GMT -5
Sales are way down, but some may still want to see these figures
SONG SALES WEEK 26 - 7/7 Hot 100
songs selling over 2,000,000 - this year - 0 / last year - 1
songs selling over 1,000,000 - this year - 1 / last year - 5
songs selling over 500,000 - this year - 9 / last year - 33 - what a decrease!
Rank - Estimated 2018 Sales - TITLE - Artist ( Estimated Total Sales )
01 - 1,013,000 - PERFECT - Ed Sheeran ( 2,353,000 )
02 - 958,000 - GOD'S PLAN - Drake ( 958,000 )
03 - 846,000 - MEANT TO BE - Bebe Rexha & Florida Georgia Line ( 1,183,000 )
04 - 658,000 - HAVANA - Camila Cabello feat. Young Thug ( 1,419,000 )
05 - 621,000 - THE MIDDLE - Zedd, Maren Morris & Grey ( 621,000 )
06 - 618,000 - WHATEVER IT TAKES - Imagine Dragons ( 803,000 )
07 - 592,000 - FINESSE - Bruno Mars & Cardi B ( 623,000 )
08 - 579,000 - THUNDER - Imagine Dragons ( 1,768,000 )
09 - 510,000 - NEVER BE THE SAME - Camila Cabello ( 557,000 )
10 - 493,000 - YOU MAKE IT EASY - Jason Aldean ( 493,000 )
11 - 490,000 - PSYCHO - Post Malone feat. Ty Dolla $ign ( 490,000 )
12 - 450,000 - HEAVEN - Kane Brown ( 548,000 )
13 - 438,000 - SAY SOMETHING - Justin Timberlake feat. Chris Stapleton ( 438,000 )
14 - 380,000 - ZOMBIE - Bad Wolves ( 380,000 )
15 - 380,000 - PRAY FOR ME - The Weeknd & Kendrick Lamar ( 380,000 )
16 - 379,000 - ROCKSTAR - Post Malone feat. 21 Savage ( 1,191,000 )
17 - 377,000 - NICE FOR WHAT - Drake ( 377,000 )
18 - 365,000 - WAIT - Maroon 5 ( 389,000 )
19 - 346,000 - THE CHAMPION - Carrie Underwood feat. Ludacris ( 346,000 )
20 - 340,000 - LET YOU DOWN - NF ( 512,000 )
21 - 336,000 - THIS IS ME - Keala Settle & Greatest Showman Ensemble ( 350,000 )
22 - 328,000 - MINE - Bazzi ( 336,000 )
23 - 327,000 - FEEL IT STILL - Portugal. The Man ( 1,183,000 )
24 - 316,000 - MARRY ME - Thomas Rhett ( 457,000 )
25 - 308,000 - NO TEARS LEFT TO CRY - Ariana Grande ( 308,000 )
26 - 303,000 - IN MY BLOOD - Shawn Mendes ( 303,000 )
27 - 298,000 - I FALL APART - Post Malone ( 581,000 )
28 - 296,000 - I LIKE IT - Cardi B feat. Bad Bunny & J Balvin ( 296,000 )
29 - 293,000 - BELIEVER - Imagine Dragons ( 1,891,000 )
30 - 277,000 - ALL THE STARS - Kendrick Lamar & SZA ( 277,000 )
31 - 274,000 - TEQUILA - Dan + Shay ( 274,000 )
32 - 270,000 - HIM & I - G-Eazy & Halsey ( 386,000 )
33 - 261,000 - MOST PEOPLE ARE GOOD - Luke Bryan ( 286,000 )
34 - 259,000 - NEW RULES - Dua Lipa ( 582,000 )
35 - 256,000 - GIRLS LIKE YOU - Maroon 5 feat. Cardi B ( 261,000 )
36 - 255,000 - BROKEN HALOS - Chris Stapleton ( 556,000 )
37 - 251,000 - BAD AT LOVE - Halsey ( 662,000 )
38 - 236,000 - NO EXCUSES - Meghan Trainor ( 236,000 )
39 - 230,000 - FRIENDS - Marshmello & Anne-Marie ( 230,000 )
40 - 226,000 - RIVER - Eminem feat. Ed Sheeran ( 317,000 )
41 - 226,000 - HOW LONG - Charlie Puth ( 445,000 )
42 - 221,000 - LOOK ALIVE - BlocBoy JB feat. Drake ( 221,000 )
43 - 219,000 - UP DOWN - Morgan Wallen feat. Florida Georgia Line ( 267,000 )
44 - 218,000 - FREAKY FRIDAY - Lil Dicky feat. Chris Brown ( 218,000 )
45 - 217,000 - THIS IS AMERICA - Childish Gambino ( 217,000 )
46 - 215,000 - STIR FRY - Migos ( 227,000 )
47 - 213,000 - DESPACITO - Luis Fonsi & Daddy Yankee feat. Justin Bieber ( 2,905,000 )
48 - 211,000 - YOUNG DUMB & BROKE - Khalid ( 582,000 )
49 - 208,000 - FILTHY - Justin Timberlake ( 208,000 )
50 - 206,000 - WOLVES - Selena Gomez X Marshmello ( 414,000 )
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Post by Mayman on Jul 7, 2018 9:05:14 GMT -5
I'm very surprised God's Plan has sold so well.
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Post by hot100predictions on Jul 7, 2018 9:31:30 GMT -5
Meanwhile the now VIRAL In My Feelings is up to #1 on Spotify (2.5m streams), #1 on Apple Music and #2 on iTunes (8.1k sales).
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Post by thabb on Jul 7, 2018 10:01:04 GMT -5
the fact that The Middle is still #1 just goes to show how out of touch radio is these days, even with pop listeners lol
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Post by fhas on Jul 7, 2018 10:02:31 GMT -5
Meanwhile the now VIRAL In My Feelings is up to #1 on Spotify (2.5m streams), #1 on Apple Music and #2 on iTunes (8.1k sales). 6M+ audience on urban radio with 513 spins.  |
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Post by fhas on Jul 7, 2018 10:03:44 GMT -5
the fact that The Middle is still #1 just goes to show how out of touch radio is these days, even with pop listeners lol That's What I Like: peaked with 175M audience. 9 weeks at #1. The Middle: peaked with 121M audience. 9 weeks at #1 (already counting this week). |
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Post by kanfad on Jul 7, 2018 10:10:31 GMT -5
SCORPION WEEK RECORDS
1. Most number of songs in the top ten in a single week 2. Most number of debuts in the top ten in a single week 3. Most number of debuts in the top ten ever 4. Most number of top ten songs in 2018 5. Most number of top ten songs in a single calender year 6. Most number of songs in the top 20 in a single week 7. Most number of debuts in the top 20 in a single week 8. Most number of songs to reach the top 20 ever 9. Most number of songs in the top 40 in a single week 10. Most number of debuts in the top 40 in a single week 11. Most number of songs to reach the top 40 ever 12. Most number of songs on the hot 100 in a single week 13. Most number of debuts on the hot 100 in a single week |
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Post by fhas on Jul 7, 2018 10:29:12 GMT -5
SCORPION WEEK RECORDS
1. Most number of songs in the top ten in a single week 2. Most number of debuts in the top ten in a single week 3. Most number of debuts in the top ten ever 4. Most number of top ten songs in 2018 5. Most number of top ten songs in a single calender year 6. Most number of songs in the top 20 in a single week 7. Most number of debuts in the top 20 in a single week 8. Most number of songs to reach the top 20 ever 9. Most number of songs in the top 40 in a single week 10. Most number of debuts in the top 40 in a single week 11. Most number of songs to reach the top 40 ever 12. Most number of songs on the hot 100 in a single week 13. Most number of debuts on the hot 100 in a single week I'm here for the meltdowns! Go Drake! The greatest week in Hot 100's history! |
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Post by lazer on Jul 7, 2018 11:06:22 GMT -5
In My Feelings will be the next Drake hit. Nonstop doesn't feel like a hit.
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Jul 7, 2018 11:31:45 GMT -5
Nonstop hitting #1 this week is the only way Drake will be able to tie MJ/Katy Perry’s record for most #1s on 1 album.
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Jul 7, 2018 11:33:15 GMT -5
If Nonstop does debut at one, I'm sure the label is gonna push Don't Matter To Me INCREDIBLY hard after In My Feelings tops the chart
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Post by annoymous1 on Jul 7, 2018 11:37:48 GMT -5
I've listened to Nonstop Many Times what do people like about that song ?
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Post by iHype. on Jul 7, 2018 12:50:14 GMT -5
Drake's label is under Republic. Yeah, if he gets to 4 #1's they're going to definitely try to get a 5th lol.
If he gets a 4th #1 I think they should straight up drop a video to DMTM the week after. If they try to wait until after IMF's run completely dies who's to say DMTM won't be much past its peak too.
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Post by hunterquigley on Jul 7, 2018 12:51:47 GMT -5
In My Feelings is now number one on ITunes
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Jul 7, 2018 13:24:08 GMT -5
In My Feelings might challenge for number 1 in its second week. If anyone forgot, 2018 belongs to Drake
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