Billboard Hot 100 : 07/28/18

[owenlovesmusic]

T.I.'s Paper Trail era was pretty big on the hot 100.

Whatever You Like - #1 for 7 weeks, 12 weeks in the top 3, #16 on the 2000s decade end chart
Live Your Life - #1 for 6 weeks, #37 on the 2000s decade end chart
Dead and Gone - #2 for 5 weeks
Swagga Like Us - #5

There was also:

My Love (Justin Timberlake f/ T.I.) that was released just before WYL. It peaked at #1 for 3 weeks.
 
The album debuted at #1 with 568,000 copies sold first week and was certified 2x platinum under a year after it's release. the certification hasn't been updated since mid 2009.

[thegreatdivine]

Jul 24, 2018 13:45:11 GMT -5 @mello said:

Jul 24, 2018 13:39:42 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

I'm a huge Drake fan and I'm just as shocked at how successful he still is, considering the fact that he's been garnering hits since '09. People forget that the only reason Best I Ever Had failed to hit #1 was because of the grip the Black Eyed Peas had on the charts at that time in '09. His first single, off a mixtape, could have reached #1 on the Hot 100 chart - that's ridiculous. He's always been a megastar (he's the only one amongst all his peers right now who was doing massive first week numbers, going platinum in a year with his albums WAY BEFORE the streaming era). It's just unfortunate that his chart dominance wasn't as prominent back then because of how the charts mostly favored pop acts and how streaming wasn't yet a thing.

He's dropped every year since 2015 and every project has been massively successful. I know every star burns out, but after years of even me telling myself "this is Drake's peak year," I'm done trying to predict when he'll peak or even start to decline. In the 9 years since he debuted, LOADS of stars have come and gone and he's still here, as strong as ever.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not counting him out after this era ... and he is a bona fide rarity in the business.  I'm just saying I won't be surprised when he loses his throne, everyone does - I'm more interested in the why and how it all goes down.  

Oh yeah, of course, I feel you. I'm just as interested in seeing how it all ends for him. He's had talks of retiring by 35, going out when he's still relevant, but I doubt he does that. He seems to be enjoying all the success way too much to every truly let it go.

[thegreatdivine]

Jul 24, 2018 13:45:52 GMT -5 owenlovesmusic said:

T.I.'s Paper Trail era was pretty big on the hot 100.

Whatever You Like - #1 for 7 weeks, 12 weeks in the top 3, #16 on the 2000s decade end chart
Live Your Life - #1 for 6 weeks, #37 on the 2000s decade end chart
Dead and Gone - #2 for 5 weeks
Swagga Like Us - #5

There was also:

My Love (Justin Timberlake f/ T.I.) that was released just before WYL. It peaked at #1 for 3 weeks.
 
The album debuted at #1 with 568,000 copies sold first week and was certified 2x platinum under a year after it's release. the certification hasn't been updated since mid 2009.

Yes, THIS. It scares me how EASILY people forget these days and in this generation. People look at Lil Wayne now like a decade ago, he wasn't the biggest thing on the planet. It's easy to forget that acts like Ludacris and Diddy also DOMINATED. I don't know if it's because those acts "fell off" as far as their dominance is concerned or what, but people just moved on and seem to have selective memory when it comes to remembering their success. Even acts like Snoop Dogg, DMX, Nelly. These guys all had incredible runs, but now, to these kids, they're like an afterthought. Makes me wonder about the kind of legacy acts like Drake and Kendrick will leave behind and if they'll be forgotten just as easily when it's all said and done.

[Gary]

Rihanna goes one hit at a time though and could not get away with 25 at a shot. Drake can

[Gary]

Twenty One Pilots' 'Jumpsuit' Is Fastest-Rising Alternative Songs No. 1 This Decade

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By Kevin Rutherford | July 24, 2018 2:03 PM EDT

The song's two-week flight is the quickest since Green Day's "Know Your Enemy" in 2009.

twenty one pilots' two-week flight to the top of Billboard's Alternative Songs radio airplay chart with new single "Jumpsuit" marks the quickest coronation on the tally this decade.

The lead single from the duo's upcoming fifth album, Trench, leaps 8-1 in its second week on the ranking dated July 28 (following its first full week of availability), becoming the first song to ascend to No. 1 in two weeks or less since Green Day's "Know Your Enemy," which also took just two weeks to reign after debuting at No. 8 in May 2009.

Before "Jumpsuit," Foo Fighters had logged the quickest rise to No. 1 in the 2010s on Alternative Songs with "Rope," which needed three weeks to rule in March 2011. Linkin Park's "The Catalyst" also led in its third week in September 2010, marking the only other track to hit No. 1 in three weeks or fewer this decade.

"Jumpsuit" is twenty one pilots' fourth Alternative Songs No. 1, all earned in under the last three years. The duo first led with "Stressed Out" (for 12 weeks beginning Nov. 21, 2015) and followed with "Ride" (seven weeks; April 9, 2016) and "Heathens" (11 weeks; Sept. 10, 2016).

In all, twenty one pilots have now spent 31 total weeks at No. 1 on the chart, placing it in a tie for ninth place with R.E.M. for the best sum in the chart's nearly 30-year history. Red Hot Chili Peppers lead with 86 weeks on top.

Concurrently, "Jumpsuit" rises 4-3 on the all-rock-format Rock Airplay chart with 10.1 million audience impressions, according to Nielsen Music, and breaks into the top 30 on Mainstream Rock Songs (36-27). On the all-genre airplay-, streaming- and sales-based Billboard Hot 100, the song lifts 60-50.

Trench is due Oct. 5.

[Enigma.]

But one could argue that Take Care, Nothing Was the Same and Views are his peak albums, and most successful too, in the long run at least. Scorpion has quite a job to do if it can match Take Care's sales.

Now if we're talking about singles charts, his peak has probably been 2016-2018.

Just like Thriller was MJ's biggest album but he got best string of hits from Bad and several from Dangerous

[kierz7]

Jul 24, 2018 13:57:49 GMT -5 Gary said:

Rihanna goes one hit at a time though and could not get away with 25 at a shot. Drake can

What?

In 2018, Drake scored 3 #1 singles off of a single album.

Rihanna did this in 2007/2008 and again in 2010/2011.

Are we forgetting that she scored 4 #1's in a calendar year in 2010, and seven #1s between 2010-2012?

Of course she has slowed down since then, she was never going to sustain her high 'Singles/Hot 100' peak forever but there lies a difference between her and Drake. Drake's Hot 100 success is peaking now in the Streaming era, whereas Rihanna's Hot 100 success peaked within the Digital era. The chart formula's were vastly different on both ends as were the singles chart runs.

Yes, Rihanna may never debut 25 songs on the Hot 100 at once like Drake has (though we will never know unless she releases an album with 25 songs) but she has only released "one" album in the streaming era, post-2013 - ANTI.

Overall, Rihanna is still the biggest hitmaker of her era and the century as a whole. She's only 2nd to Madonna for most WW #1 hits overall and could easily surpass her if she is to become more consistent like she was 5 -7 years ago. In the U.S though, especially currently, Drake sits beside her at the throne.

[iHype.]

The biggest single eras by Rap/Hip-Hop albums on Hot 100:


1. T.I. - Paper Trail
2. Nelly - Nellyville
3. Diddy - No Way Out
4. 50 Cent - Get Rich or Die Tryin’
5. Akon - Konvicted
6. 50 Cent - The Massacre
7. Outkast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below
8. Flo Rida - Wild Ones
9. Macklemore & Ryan Lewis - The Heist
10. Drake - Views
11. Drake - Scorpion 

I know Flo Rida's inclusion is a mess, but his album charted on Rap albums, so chart wise it's considered a Rap era.

This is based on the cumulative points from an album's singles on Hot 100. 

[kierz7]

Jul 24, 2018 15:51:10 GMT -5 iHype. said:

The biggest single eras by Rap/Hip-Hop albums on Hot 100:


1. T.I. - Paper Trail
2. Nelly - Nellyville
3. Diddy - No Way Out
4. 50 Cent - Get Rich or Die Tryin’
5. Akon - Konvicted
6. 50 Cent - The Massacre
7. Outkast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below
8. Flo Rida - Wild Ones
9. Macklemore & Ryan Lewis - The Heist
10. Drake - Views
11. Drake - Scorpion 

I know Flo Rida's inclusion is a mess, but his album charted on Rap albums, so chart wise it's considered a Rap era.

This is based on the cumulative points from an album's singles on Hot 100. 

Interesting list. I wasn't expecting "Paper Trail" to be above "Nellyville" or "Get Rich Or Die Trying".

Puff Daddy's "No Way Out" is not ranked within the top 10?

An album with a 7 week #1 and 11 week #1 as well as two multi-week #2 peaking singles?

What about Notorious B.I.G's "Life After Death" also?

[Gary]

Jul 24, 2018 15:50:38 GMT -5 kierz7 said:

Jul 24, 2018 13:57:49 GMT -5 Gary said:

Rihanna goes one hit at a time though and could not get away with 25 at a shot. Drake can

What?

In 2018, Drake scored 3 #1 singles off of a single album.

Rihanna did this in 2007/2008 and again in 2010/2011.

Are we forgetting that she scored 4 #1's in a calendar year in 2010, and seven #1s between 2010-2012?

Of course she has slowed down since then, she was never going to sustain her high 'Singles/Hot 100' peak forever but there lies a difference between her and Drake. Drake's Hot 100 success is peaking now in the Streaming era, whereas Rihanna's Hot 100 success peaked within the Digital era. The chart formula's were vastly different on both ends as were the singles chart runs.

Yes, Rihanna may never debut 25 songs on the Hot 100 at once like Drake has (though we will never know unless she releases an album with 25 songs) but she has only released "one" album in the streaming era, post-2013 - ANTI.

Overall, Rihanna is still the biggest hitmaker of her era and the century as a whole. She's only 2nd to Madonna for most WW #1 hits overall and could easily surpass her if she is to become more consistent like she was 5 -7 years ago. In the U.S though, especially currently, Drake sits beside her at the throne.

Thank you for quoting all of Rihanna's chart stats

No one other than Drake has EVER had more than 20 songs chart at a time.

Pop albums currently don't have the streaming demand that Drake does (in fact no one has the streaming demand that Drake does.

The key phrase in my post was "one hit at a time"

That does not mean she did not have hits.  Was not meant to downplay Rihanna's string of hits.  (Keyword - "string" -- in Drake's case they come in bunches. -- 3 hits in the top 10 (or more) for most of the year.)


Take it easy -  No offense to Rihanna fans intended. 

[kierz7]

Jul 24, 2018 13:54:43 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Jul 24, 2018 13:45:52 GMT -5 owenlovesmusic said:

T.I.'s Paper Trail era was pretty big on the hot 100.

Whatever You Like - #1 for 7 weeks, 12 weeks in the top 3, #16 on the 2000s decade end chart
Live Your Life - #1 for 6 weeks, #37 on the 2000s decade end chart
Dead and Gone - #2 for 5 weeks
Swagga Like Us - #5

There was also:

My Love (Justin Timberlake f/ T.I.) that was released just before WYL. It peaked at #1 for 3 weeks.
 
The album debuted at #1 with 568,000 copies sold first week and was certified 2x platinum under a year after it's release. the certification hasn't been updated since mid 2009.

Yes, THIS. It scares me how EASILY people forget these days and in this generation. People look at Lil Wayne now like a decade ago, he wasn't the biggest thing on the planet. It's easy to forget that acts like Ludacris and Diddy also DOMINATED. I don't know if it's because those acts "fell off" as far as their dominance is concerned or what, but people just moved on and seem to have selective memory when it comes to remembering their success. Even acts like Snoop Dogg, DMX, Nelly. These guys all had incredible runs, but now, to these kids, they're like an afterthought. Makes me wonder about the kind of legacy acts like Drake and Kendrick will leave behind and if they'll be forgotten just as easily when it's all said and done.

I completely forgot about Lil' Wayne's reign between 2008-2011.

When 'Young Money' was an absolute force!

[iHype.]

Jul 24, 2018 15:57:13 GMT -5 kierz7 said:

Jul 24, 2018 15:51:10 GMT -5 iHype. said:

The biggest single eras by Rap/Hip-Hop albums on Hot 100:


1. T.I. - Paper Trail
2. Nelly - Nellyville
3. Diddy - No Way Out
4. 50 Cent - Get Rich or Die Tryin’
5. Akon - Konvicted
6. 50 Cent - The Massacre
7. Outkast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below
8. Flo Rida - Wild Ones
9. Macklemore & Ryan Lewis - The Heist
10. Drake - Views
11. Drake - Scorpion 

I know Flo Rida's inclusion is a mess, but his album charted on Rap albums, so chart wise it's considered a Rap era.

This is based on the cumulative points from an album's singles on Hot 100. 

Interesting list. I wasn't expecting "Paper Trail" to be above "Nellyville" or "Get Rich Or Die Trying".

Puff Daddy's "No Way Out" is not ranked within the top 10?

An album with a 7 week #1 and 11 week #1 as well as two multi-week #2 peaking singles?

What about Notorious B.I.G's "Life After Death" also?

No Way Out is #3 lol.


Hypnotize was a relatively weak #1 overall, and Mo Money was also a slightly below average #1.

[kierz7]

Jul 24, 2018 16:12:28 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Jul 24, 2018 15:57:13 GMT -5 kierz7 said:

Interesting list. I wasn't expecting "Paper Trail" to be above "Nellyville" or "Get Rich Or Die Trying".

Puff Daddy's "No Way Out" is not ranked within the top 10?

An album with a 7 week #1 and 11 week #1 as well as two multi-week #2 peaking singles?

What about Notorious B.I.G's "Life After Death" also?

No Way Out is #3 lol.


Hypnotize was a relatively weak #1 overall, and Mo Money was also a slightly below average #1.

Oh, wow. I didn't even see it. LMAO.

Okay. Thanks. The songs felt so much bigger in 1997 in tees of cultural presence. It's great that they have good recurrent stats.

[owenlovesmusic]

Jul 24, 2018 15:51:10 GMT -5 iHype. said:

The biggest single eras by Rap/Hip-Hop albums on Hot 100:


1. T.I. - Paper Trail 

😉

[Gary]

Kenny Chesney Holds Atop Country Airplay Chart With 'Get Along,' as Thomas Rhett, Chris Lane & Tori Kelly Add New Top 10s

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By Jim Asker | July 24, 2018 4:47 PM EDT



Chesney notches his 20th multi-week No. 1.

Kenny Chesney's "Get Along" paces Billboard's Country Airplay chart (dated July 28) for a second week, with 45.4 million audience impressions (down 2 percent) in the week ending July 22, according to Nielsen Music. His 30th No. 1, the most of all artists, is his 20th multi-week leader.

On Billboard's Hot Country Songs chart, which blends airplay, streaming and sales data, "Get Along" holds at its No. 3 peak.

"Get Along" previews Chesney's album Songs for the Saints, due July 27. An additional song from the set, "Better Boat" (featuring Mindy Smith), released July 13, debuts at No. 22 on Country Digital Song Sales with 5,000 sold in the week ending July 19. The song marks Chesney's 30th appearance on the chart and the first on any Billboard country ranking for Americana/folk singer-songwriter Smith.

'CHANGES' IN THE TOP 10: Thomas Rhett banks his 11th top 10 on Hot Country Songs, as "Life Changes," the title track from his 2017 album, rises 12-10. It increases by 10 percent to 27.2 million audience impressions and lifts 10-8 on Country Airplay.

Plus, Chris Lane's "Take Back Home Girl," featuring Tori Kelly, pushes 12-10 on Country Airplay, up 6 percent to 25.6 million impressions. Lane lands his third Country Airplay top 10, while Kelly collects her first in her first visit to the chart.

[rickroller]

Canadian Hot 100 is still not available?

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

Jul 24, 2018 13:25:31 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Drake should be the most streamed artist of all time,right? He's probably got close to 20 billion streams on Spotify and Apple Music just revealed he's crossed 10 billion streams on their platform.

He's behind Justin Bieber I think, if we count YouTube. Despacito has more views than Drake's videos combined.

[iHype.]

Jul 24, 2018 17:45:46 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

Jul 24, 2018 13:25:31 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Drake should be the most streamed artist of all time,right? He's probably got close to 20 billion streams on Spotify and Apple Music just revealed he's crossed 10 billion streams on their platform.

He's behind Justin Bieber I think, if we count YouTube. Despacito has more views than Drake's videos combined.

The Despacito music video is the version without Bieber.

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Jul 24, 2018 17:50:18 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Jul 24, 2018 17:45:46 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

He's behind Justin Bieber I think, if we count YouTube. Despacito has more views than Drake's videos combined.

The Despacito music video is the version without Bieber.

I know, I just wanted to say that only ONE video has more views than Drake's career.

[thegreatdivine]

Jul 24, 2018 17:54:06 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

Jul 24, 2018 17:50:18 GMT -5 iHype. said:

The Despacito music video is the version without Bieber.

I know, I just wanted to say that only ONE video has more views than Drake's career.

I wasn't talking about audio/video streams, which is why I stated that he should be close to 20 billion streams on Spotify and over 10 billion streams on Apple Music. I'm talking specifically about audio streams.

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Jul 24, 2018 19:34:05 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Jul 24, 2018 17:54:06 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

I know, I just wanted to say that only ONE video has more views than Drake's career.

I wasn't talking about audio/video streams, which is why I stated that he should be close to 20 billion streams on Spotify and over 10 billion streams on Apple Music. I'm talking specifically about audio streams.

Oh, okay. You're right then

[thegreatdivine]

Jul 24, 2018 19:42:29 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

Jul 24, 2018 19:34:05 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

I wasn't talking about audio/video streams, which is why I stated that he should be close to 20 billion streams on Spotify and over 10 billion streams on Apple Music. I'm talking specifically about audio streams.

Oh, okay. You're right then

Alright then. He should also be the most streamed artist in the US in general, which is what Billboard is going to care about when they conduct their AOTD calculations. I wish there was a way we could get these streaming figures for the biggest artists, at least.

[iHype.]

Jul 24, 2018 20:17:42 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Jul 24, 2018 19:42:29 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

Oh, okay. You're right then

Alright then. He should also be the most streamed artist in the US in general, which is what Billboard is going to care about when they conduct their AOTD calculations. I wish there was a way we could get these streaming figures for the biggest artists, at least.I

More than likely AOTD will be calculated based on:
- Hot 100 charting
- Billboard 200 charting
- Social 50
- Billboard Boxscore


I doubt they count raw data, such as adding up sales numbers and streaming numbers. And for the 2000s they only used Hot 100 & Billboard 200.

[Enigma.]

Keeping in mind that Drake has been a global megastar only for a couple of years and actually seems that Scorpion is going to be weaker in Europe than Views which had the earth-shattering mega hit called One Dance. None of Scorpion's tracks are going to beat that.

If we consider how much streaming has growing in last two years, One Dance's numbers would be way beyond what IMF is achieving now.

[thegreatdivine]

Jul 25, 2018 0:28:06 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Jul 24, 2018 20:17:42 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Alright then. He should also be the most streamed artist in the US in general, which is what Billboard is going to care about when they conduct their AOTD calculations. I wish there was a way we could get these streaming figures for the biggest artists, at least.I

More than likely AOTD will be calculated based on:
- Hot 100 charting
- Billboard 200 charting
- Social 50
- Billboard Boxscore


I doubt they count raw data, such as adding up sales numbers and streaming numbers. And for the 2000s they only used Hot 100 & Billboard 200.

I know Rihanna has more points on the all-time Hot 100 chart, but seeing as Drake was recently crowned the most successful artist on the Billboard Hot 100 chart this decade and will be surpassing her with weeks spent on the chart for the decade, I'm guessing he has more points than her for the decade? His albums have also spent a lot more weeks at #1 than Riri's albums and they're all long-charting albums.

It'll probably be really close, but I'm still guessing Drake's got it in the bag by the end of this era.

[thegreatdivine]

Jul 25, 2018 1:27:03 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

Keeping in mind that Drake has been a global megastar only for a couple of years and actually seems that Scorpion is going to be weaker in Europe than Views which had the earth-shattering mega hit called One Dance. None of Scorpion's tracks are going to beat that.

If we consider how much streaming has growing in last two years, One Dance's numbers would be way beyond what IMF is achieving now.

Yeah, of course. God's Plan, Nice for What and In My Feelings were international hit records, too, but One Dance was a monster, especially seeing as he'd never had a hit that huge in the US or overseas before then.

Hotline Bling would also be a much bigger hit if it was released now with the same viral effect it had back in 2015, but that's all gone now. I feel like Drake's still got huge hits in him, it's just a matter of time till we hear them at the rate he drops music these days.

[rainie]

Jul 24, 2018 13:44:25 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Jul 24, 2018 13:38:50 GMT -5 Gary said:

Some artists can get away with that type exposure, some can't.. Not everyone is Drake

Drake is practically big enough to rename the Hot 100 after Drake himself

Acts like Drake and Rihanna are a different breed because they're legitimate HIT MAKERS. Rihanna dropped an album in '09, '10, '11 and '12 and none of her eras suffered flops or a lack of hit singles. Acts like her and Drake land their hits WAY MORE TIMES than they ever miss. Their batting average is crazy ridiculous and that earns them an air of loyalty with their fanbases and the general public.

I agree with the rest but um...did you forget about how Rihanna has just as many flops as hits in the TTT/Unapologetic eras? You Da One, Talk That Talk (which really surprised me, I thought this sounded like a big hit), Right Now, What Now, Pour It Up (argueably), etc.

[thegreatdivine]

Jul 25, 2018 3:03:35 GMT -5 rainie said:

Jul 24, 2018 13:44:25 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Acts like Drake and Rihanna are a different breed because they're legitimate HIT MAKERS. Rihanna dropped an album in '09, '10, '11 and '12 and none of her eras suffered flops or a lack of hit singles. Acts like her and Drake land their hits WAY MORE TIMES than they ever miss. Their batting average is crazy ridiculous and that earns them an air of loyalty with their fanbases and the general public.

I agree with the rest but um...did you forget about how Rihanna has just as many flops as hits in the TTT/Unapologetic eras? You Da One, Talk That Talk (which really surprised me, I thought this sounded like a big hit), Right Now, What Now, Pour It Up (argueably), etc.

I guess when you put it like that. The TTT era was probably her poorest between the four albums she dropped from '09-'12, but at least with Unapologetic, she scored Diamonds, which was a smash. IMO, if you can score even just one major smash in an era, that era is a win. Adele's only hit during the 25 era was Hello, every other single flopped. Same with Taylor's reputation era. Rihanna's biggest hit during her ANTi era was her first single, too. It's not common to see an artist score multiple smashes in an album era anymore.

[korbel16]

Jul 25, 2018 3:08:25 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Jul 25, 2018 3:03:35 GMT -5 rainie said:

I agree with the rest but um...did you forget about how Rihanna has just as many flops as hits in the TTT/Unapologetic eras? You Da One, Talk That Talk (which really surprised me, I thought this sounded like a big hit), Right Now, What Now, Pour It Up (argueably), etc.

I guess when you put it like that. The TTT era was probably her poorest between the four albums she dropped from '09-'12, but at least with Unapologetic, she scored Diamonds, which was a smash. IMO, if you can score even just one major smash in an era, that era is a win. Adele's only hit during the 25 era was Hello, every other single flopped. Same with Taylor's reputation era. Rihanna's biggest hit during her ANTi era was her first single, too. It's not common to see an artist score multiple smashes in an album era anymore.

agreed! She had work, needed me, and love on the brain (a late hit). They were all pretty much played everywhere and very recognizable. Hopefully she can carry on her success in her new era. Because lately every veteran has been flopping besides Ariana, drake and Bruno. Rihanna has been hiatus longer than drake has ever been so she has even more anticipation around her tho! If her next single is good she should remain fine. Good luck rih!

[rainie]

Jul 25, 2018 3:08:25 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Jul 25, 2018 3:03:35 GMT -5 rainie said:

I agree with the rest but um...did you forget about how Rihanna has just as many flops as hits in the TTT/Unapologetic eras? You Da One, Talk That Talk (which really surprised me, I thought this sounded like a big hit), Right Now, What Now, Pour It Up (argueably), etc.

I guess when you put it like that. The TTT era was probably her poorest between the four albums she dropped from '09-'12, but at least with Unapologetic, she scored Diamonds, which was a smash. IMO, if you can score even just one major smash in an era, that era is a win. Adele's only hit during the 25 era was Hello, every other single flopped. Same with Taylor's reputation era. Rihanna's biggest hit during her ANTi era was her first single, too. It's not common to see an artist score multiple smashes in an album era anymore.

I get what you’re saying, but there’s a difference between a flop and underperformance. WWWY and WUTB both had modest peaks and did well enough to make the year end charts, so I’d hardly call them flops, more underperformances. And SYLTYNL even got a top 10 peak, so I don’t even think I’d call that an underperformance. Same with Swift and some of her singles during the Reputation era — LWYMMD and RFI are much more underperformances then they were flops.