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Post by Soulsista on Jul 22, 2018 10:50:00 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:
July 30, 1983
01 01 Every Breath You Take - The Police (4th of 8 weeks at #1) 02 02 Electric Avenue - Eddy Grant 03 03 Flashdance...What a Feeling - Irene Cara 04 04 Never Gonna Let You Go - Sergio Mendes w/Joe Pizzulo & Leza Miller 05 08 Is There Something I Should Know - Duran Duran 06 11 Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This) - The Eurythmics 07 05 Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' - Michael Jackson 08 10 She Works Hard For The Money - Donna Summer 09 09 Stand Back - Stevie Nicks 10 07 Our House - Madness
July 30, 1988
01 04 Roll With It - Steve Winwood (1st of 4 weeks at #1) 02 01 Hold On To The Nights - Richard Marx 03 06 Hands To Heaven - Breathe 04 02 Pour Some Sugar On Me - Def Leppard 05 07 Make Me Lose Control - Eric Carmen 06 09 Sign Your Name - Terence Trent D'Arby 07 03 New Sensation - INXS 08 11 1-2-3 - Gloria Estefan & The Miami Sound Machine 09 10 Rush Hour - Jane Wiedlin 10 14 I Don't Wanna Go On With You Like That - Elton John
July 31, 1993
01 01 Can't Help Falling In Love - UB40 (2nd of 7 weeks at #1) 02 03 Whoomp! (There It Is) - Tag Team 03 02 Weak - SWV 04 09 I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles) - The Proclaimers 05 07 Slam - Onyx 06 04 That's The Way Love Goes - Janet Jackson 07 11 Lately - Jodeci 08 06 Show Me Love - Robin S 09 05 Knockin' Da Boots - H-Town 10 08 I'll Never Get Over You (Getting Over Me) - Expose
20 57 If - Janet Jackson
July 25, 1998
01 01 The Boy Is Mine - Brandy & Monica (8th of 13 weeks at #1) 02 02 You're Still The One - Shania Twain 03 03 My Way - Usher 04 06 Come With Me - Puff Daddy feat. Jimmy Page 05 05 Adia - Sarah McLachlan 06 04 Too Close - Next 07 08 Make It Hot - Nicole feat. Missy Elliott & Mocha 08 07 Ray Of Light - Madonna 09 09 My All - Mariah Carey 10 12 Say It - Voices Of Theory
13 NE Never Ever - All Saints
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Post by Soulsista on Jul 22, 2018 11:10:36 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 Flashback:
July 26, 2003
01 01 Crazy In Love - Beyonce feat. Jay-Z (3rd of 8 weeks at #1) 02 02 Magic Stick - Lil Kim feat. 50 Cent 03 03 Rock Wit U (Awww Baby) - Ashanti 04 04 Right Thurr - Chingy 05 10 Never Leave You...Uh Ooh, Uh Oooh! - Lumidee 06 05 Unwell - Matchbox Twenty 07 07 Bring Me To Life - Evanescence feat. Paul McCoy 08 06 Get Busy - Sean Paul 09 09 Miss Independent - Kelly Clarkson 10 15 In Those Jeans - Ginuwine
July 26, 2008
01 01 I Kissed a Girl - Katy Perry (4th of 7 weeks at #1) 02 02 Take a Bow - Rihanna 03 03 Lollipop - Lil Wayne feat. Static Major 04 06 Forever - Chris Brown 05 04 Bleeding Love - Leona Lewis 06 07 Pocketful Of Sunshine - Natasha Bedingfield 07 05 Viva La Vida - Coldplay 08 11 A Milli - Lil Wayne 09 10 7 Things - Miley Cyrus 10 09 Bust It Baby (Part 2) - Plies feat. Ne-Yo
July 27, 2013
01 01 Blurred Lines - Robin Thicke feat. T.I. & Pharrell (6th of 12 weeks at #1) 02 02 Get Lucky - Daft Punk feat. Pharrell 03 03 We Can't Stop - Miley Cyrus 04 04 Radioactive - Imagine Dragons 05 06 Can't Hold Us - Macklemore & Ryan Lewis feat. Ray Dalton 06 05 Cruise - Florida Georgia Line feat. Nelly 07 08 Treasure - Bruno Mars 08 NE Holy Grail - Jay-Z feat. Justin Timberlake 09 07 Mirrors - Justin Timberlake 10 10 Cups - Anna Kendrick
July 29, 2017
01 01 Despacito - Luis Fonsi & Daddy Yankee feat. Justin Bieber (10th of 16 weeks at #1) 02 04 Wild Thoughts - DJ Khaled feat. Rihanna & Bryson Tiller 03 02 I'm The One - DJ Khaled feat. Justin Bieber, Quavo, Chance The Rapper & Lil Wayne 04 03 That's What I Like - Bruno Mars 05 05 Shape Of You - Ed Sheeran 06 06 HUMBLE. - Kendrick Lamar 07 07 Believer - Imagine Dragons 08 14 There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back - Shawn Mendes 09 10 Unforgettable - French Montana feat. Swae Lee 10 08 Body Like a Back Road - Sam Hunt
23 NE The Story Of O.J. - Jay-Z 25 NE Praying - Kesha
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Jul 22, 2018 12:13:56 GMT -5
Ugh in Simon’s predictions f**king Ariana Grande blocks Better Now from going to #6 and Taste from entering the top 10 smh
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Jul 22, 2018 12:37:56 GMT -5
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Jul 22, 2018 12:48:16 GMT -5
Ugh in Simon’s predictions f**king Ariana Grande blocks Better Now from going to #6 and Taste from entering the top 10 smh Taste would only be #11 even if both AG songs disappeared...
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Post by chartslovergermany on Jul 22, 2018 12:53:24 GMT -5
I hope the prediction for delicate is wrong
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Post by chartslovergermany on Jul 22, 2018 12:57:24 GMT -5
Hopefully delicate can get top 10 next week😊
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 22, 2018 14:57:40 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago: July 25, 199809 09 My All - Mariah Carey I didn’t realize “My All” spent so many weeks in the top 10; it didn’t debut and then fall quick. This is at least 10 weeks, right? How many did it get in total?
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Post by weaver on Jul 22, 2018 15:17:51 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago: July 25, 199809 09 My All - Mariah Carey I didn’t realize “My All” spent so many weeks in the top 10; it didn’t debut and then fall quick. This is at least 10 weeks, right? How many did it get in total? I didn't remember it having that much longevity either but it stayed in the top 10 for quite a few weeks. It's probably, statistically speaking, the biggest hit from Butterfly.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2018 15:18:15 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago: July 25, 199809 09 My All - Mariah Carey I didn’t realize “My All” spent so many weeks in the top 10; it didn’t debut and then fall quick. This is at least 10 weeks, right? How many did it get in total? This was its 12th and final week in the top 10. Fell to #18 the following week. Went on to spend its 20th week at #51 and then went recurrent. 2-2-1-2-4-4-4-4-4-8-9-9-18-22-26-31-33-38-51-51
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Post by brady47 on Jul 22, 2018 16:16:07 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago: July 25, 199809 09 My All - Mariah Carey I didn’t realize “My All” spent so many weeks in the top 10; it didn’t debut and then fall quick. This is at least 10 weeks, right? How many did it get in total? Yup - 12 weeks in the top 10 (and only 1 week at #1) Weird to think the last single of the era was the biggest hit - that must not happen often.
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Post by brady47 on Jul 22, 2018 16:18:58 GMT -5
I didn’t realize “My All” spent so many weeks in the top 10; it didn’t debut and then fall quick. This is at least 10 weeks, right? How many did it get in total? This was its 12th and final week in the top 10. Fell to #18 the following week. Went on to spend its 20th week at #51 and then went recurrent. 2-2-1-2-4-4-4-4-4-8-9-9-18-22-26-31-33-38-51-51 Wow! It's surprising that with a chart run like that, it ended up making the decade end chart at #99 (and the only one from the Butterfly era to make the decade end chart, despite Honey spending more weeks at #1!) There were hits that spent 19 weeks in the top 10 like 702's "Where My Girls At?" and they never made the decade end chart... I feel like the 90s decade chart had a weirder methodology than the 2000s decaade chart.
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Post by fhas on Jul 22, 2018 16:33:51 GMT -5
Final Predictions --- TOP 10 --- July 28, 20181. | In My Feelings | 83,500 | (=) | [+32%] | 2. | I Like It | 44,100 | (=) | [+6%]
| 3. | Girls Like You | 40,100 | (=) | [+11%]
| 4. | Nice For What | 31,000 | (=) | [-8%]
| 5. | Boo'd Up | 27,800 | (=) | [-10%]
| 6. | Better Now | 26,000 | (+6) | [+18%]
| 7. | Lucid Dreams | 25,500 | (=) | [-1%]
| 8. | No Tears Left To Cry | 24,500 | (=) | [-5%]
| 9. | God is a woman | 23,600 | (NEW) |
| 10. | Psycho | 23,600 | (-1) | [-7%]
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Others: God's Plan 22,300 The Middle 20,500 Taste 20,100 SAD! 19,500 Meant To Be 18,700 Nonstop 18,500 In My Feelings 124.6k sales + 60.9M airplay + 92.8M streamsI Like It 42.8k sales + 117.3M airplay + 39.3M streams
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Post by 85la on Jul 22, 2018 17:21:34 GMT -5
Not quite so much. As Choco just mentioned above, the sudden push and surge of it to #1 on Pop, along with other recent singles, is anything but organic. It's earlier rise might have been organic, but not now. Team payola strikes again! It was all "organic" (I say that with quotations because radio promo is a thing and was definitely heavily used to keep Delicate afloat) until two weeks ago when it stalled to allow Ariana her week at #1. It was on lock to be #1 regardless of this week's push or not. I don't understand quite what you're saying. Why would they stall promotion to "let" Ariana be #1 last week. Wouldn't they want Taylor to be #1 as soon as and as long as possible? And if you're saying it was on lock to be #1 regardless of this week's push, why give it this extra push at all? And how is a timed surge in promotion to get a song #1 "organic."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2018 17:41:36 GMT -5
Better Now is coming for #1
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Post by slw84 on Jul 22, 2018 18:26:26 GMT -5
Final Predictions --- TOP 10 --- July 28, 20181. | In My Feelings | 83,500 | (=) | [+32%] | 2. | I Like It | 44,100 | (=) | [+6%]
| 3. | Girls Like You | 40,100 | (=) | [+11%]
| 4. | Nice For What | 31,000 | (=) | [-8%]
| 5. | Boo'd Up | 27,800 | (=) | [-10%]
| 6. | Better Now | 26,000 | (+6) | [+18%]
| 7. | Lucid Dreams | 25,500 | (=) | [-1%]
| 8. | No Tears Left To Cry | 24,500 | (=) | [-5%]
| 9. | God is a woman | 23,600 | (NEW) |
| 10. | Psycho | 23,600 | (-1) | [-7%]
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Others: God's Plan 22,300 The Middle 20,500 Taste 20,100 SAD! 19,500 Meant To Be 18,700 Nonstop 18,500 In My Feelings 124.6k sales + 60.9M airplay + 92.8M streamsI Like It 42.8k sales + 117.3M airplay + 39.3M streams
hopefully girls like you over takes in a few weeks i like it and peaks at #2
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Post by Gary on Jul 22, 2018 18:31:26 GMT -5
If that point spread is correct, we are a few weeks away from being a few weeks away from a new #1
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Jul 22, 2018 18:34:45 GMT -5
Final Predictions --- TOP 10 --- July 28, 20181. | In My Feelings | 83,500 | (=) | [+32%] | 2. | I Like It | 44,100 | (=) | [+6%]
| 3. | Girls Like You | 40,100 | (=) | [+11%]
| 4. | Nice For What | 31,000 | (=) | [-8%]
| 5. | Boo'd Up | 27,800 | (=) | [-10%]
| 6. | Better Now | 26,000 | (+6) | [+18%]
| 7. | Lucid Dreams | 25,500 | (=) | [-1%]
| 8. | No Tears Left To Cry | 24,500 | (=) | [-5%]
| 9. | God is a woman | 23,600 | (NEW) |
| 10. | Psycho | 23,600 | (-1) | [-7%]
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Others: God's Plan 22,300 The Middle 20,500 Taste 20,100 SAD! 19,500 Meant To Be 18,700 Nonstop 18,500 In My Feelings 124.6k sales + 60.9M airplay + 92.8M streamsI Like It 42.8k sales + 117.3M airplay + 39.3M streams
hopefully girls like you over takes in a few weeks i like it and peaks at #2 Is Like It still gonna be alive and kicking in 6 weeks, minimum
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Post by iHype. on Jul 22, 2018 18:57:51 GMT -5
This was its 12th and final week in the top 10. Fell to #18 the following week. Went on to spend its 20th week at #51 and then went recurrent. 2-2-1-2-4-4-4-4-4-8-9-9-18-22-26-31-33-38-51-51 Wow! It's surprising that with a chart run like that, it ended up making the decade end chart at #99 (and the only one from the Butterfly era to make the decade end chart, despite Honey spending more weeks at #1!) There were hits that spent 19 weeks in the top 10 like 702's "Where My Girls At?" and they never made the decade end chart... I feel like the 90s decade chart had a weirder methodology than the 2000s decaade chart. The 90s decade-end methodology made absolutely no sense.... I would think they just used chart runs un-weighted, since the highest 1990/1991 song (pre-Soundscan, quicker charts) was only #37. [Everything I Do] But Macarena clearly had a much bigger chart run than One Sweet Day, and is ranked second to it. How Do I Live is also #12 on the decade-end, and I Swear is #9. Yet How Do I Live is #4 on the All-Time Hot 100, and I Swear is #93....
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Post by iHype. on Jul 22, 2018 19:17:56 GMT -5
Also, it's worth noting the 90s Decade-End was compiled so badly even Billboard now disregards it. They recreated a 90s decade-end based on the same way they compile decade/all-time charts now. The Top 20 Billboard Hot 100 Hits of the 1990s1. "How Do I Live" - LeAnn Rimes 2. "Macarena (Bayside Boys Mix)" - Los Del Rio 3. "Un-Break My Heart" - Toni Braxton 4. "Foolish Games/You Were Meant For Me" - Jewel 5. "(Everything I Do) I Do It For You" - Bryan Adams 6. "I'll Make Love To You" - Boyz II Men 7. "Too Close" - Next 8. "One Sweet Day" - Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men 9. "Truly Madly Deeply" - Savage Garden 10. "Candle In The Wind 1997/Something About The Way You Look Tonight" - Elton John 11. "End Of The Road" (From Boomerang) - Boyz II Men 12. "The Sign" - Ace Of Base 13. "The Boy Is Mine" - Brandy and Monica 14. "Because I Love You (The Postman Song)" - Stevie B 15. "Whoomp! (There It Is)" - Tag Team 16. "Rush Rush" - Paula Abdul 17. "You're Still The One" - Shania Twain 18. "I Will Always Love You" - Whitney Houston 19. "Gangsta's Paradise" (From Dangerous Minds) - Coolio Featuring L.V. 20. "Nothing Compares 2 U" - Sinead O'Connor
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Post by Gary on Jul 22, 2018 19:29:35 GMT -5
That isn't new
That is 4 years old
Yes they now use the same point system for all all-time lists
When the 1994 100th anniversary list, 1998 40th anniversary Hot 100 list and 1990s decade end list were done, they were still not weighting by era
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jul 22, 2018 19:38:46 GMT -5
^Yeah. Since they did the 50th Anniversary Hot 100 chart, they've applied pretty much the same position based inverse point methodology with some weighing factors for hits from certain eras as has been shown in the 2010s decade-end Hot 100 prediction thread to all decade-end and all-time Hot 100.
Whatever methodology they used when the 1990s decade-end Hot 100 was published, I don't think anybody was able to figure out what methodology they actually used, but it made no sense whatsoever where songs ended up there.
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Post by Gary on Jul 22, 2018 19:40:29 GMT -5
It looks like an equally weighted inverse point system was used in 1994,1998 and 1999 which would make all the 90s long runners right at the top
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Post by hot100predictions on Jul 22, 2018 21:27:26 GMT -5
I can see I Might Need Security debuting top 40, maybe top 30 on the 8/4 chart. And FEFE debuting in the top 20 next week (8/4).
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Jul 22, 2018 21:58:28 GMT -5
It was all "organic" (I say that with quotations because radio promo is a thing and was definitely heavily used to keep Delicate afloat) until two weeks ago when it stalled to allow Ariana her week at #1. It was on lock to be #1 regardless of this week's push or not. I don't understand quite what you're saying. Why would they stall promotion to "let" Ariana be #1 last week. Wouldn't they want Taylor to be #1 as soon as and as long as possible? And if you're saying it was on lock to be #1 regardless of this week's push, why give it this extra push at all? And how is a timed surge in promotion to get a song #1 "organic." The "WHY" is simple: Republic is pushing both records, so AG went first obviously (and to clear the decks for GIAW release), then Delicate. This is standard practice on Country radio "Max Spins!" - it seems to have moved over to Pop. Several of us called it on the Delicate thread during the 'stall.'
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Post by 85la on Jul 22, 2018 22:01:15 GMT -5
I didn’t realize “My All” spent so many weeks in the top 10; it didn’t debut and then fall quick. This is at least 10 weeks, right? How many did it get in total? Yup - 12 weeks in the top 10 (and only 1 week at #1) Weird to think the last single of the era was the biggest hit - that must not happen often. Yeah, but it was only the second physical single released from the album in the U.S., and thus only the second song eligible to chart. They released a couple other airplay-only singles, Butterfly and Breakdown.
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Post by 85la on Jul 22, 2018 22:06:35 GMT -5
I don't understand quite what you're saying. Why would they stall promotion to "let" Ariana be #1 last week. Wouldn't they want Taylor to be #1 as soon as and as long as possible? And if you're saying it was on lock to be #1 regardless of this week's push, why give it this extra push at all? And how is a timed surge in promotion to get a song #1 "organic." The "WHY" is simple: Republic is pushing both records, so AG went first obviously (and to clear the decks for GIAW release), then Delicate. This is standard practice on Country radio "Max Spins!" - it seems to have moved over to Pop. Several of us called it on the Delicate thread during the 'stall.' Oh that makes sense, didn't realize Republic was pushing both records. Yeah I agree this seems to be a trend migrating to pop, but still don't see how these pushes and quick turnovers at #1 are "organic," if that was what was implied.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2018 22:12:26 GMT -5
Ugh in Simon’s predictions f**king Ariana Grande blocks Better Now from going to #6 and Taste from entering the top 10 smh Talent winning
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Post by brady47 on Jul 22, 2018 23:16:18 GMT -5
Also, it's worth noting the 90s Decade-End was compiled so badly even Billboard now disregards it. They recreated a 90s decade-end based on the same way they compile decade/all-time charts now. The Top 20 Billboard Hot 100 Hits of the 1990s1. "How Do I Live" - LeAnn Rimes 2. "Macarena (Bayside Boys Mix)" - Los Del Rio 3. "Un-Break My Heart" - Toni Braxton 4. "Foolish Games/You Were Meant For Me" - Jewel 5. "(Everything I Do) I Do It For You" - Bryan Adams 6. "I'll Make Love To You" - Boyz II Men 7. "Too Close" - Next 8. "One Sweet Day" - Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men 9. "Truly Madly Deeply" - Savage Garden 10. "Candle In The Wind 1997/Something About The Way You Look Tonight" - Elton John 11. "End Of The Road" (From Boomerang) - Boyz II Men 12. "The Sign" - Ace Of Base 13. "The Boy Is Mine" - Brandy and Monica 14. "Because I Love You (The Postman Song)" - Stevie B 15. "Whoomp! (There It Is)" - Tag Team 16. "Rush Rush" - Paula Abdul 17. "You're Still The One" - Shania Twain 18. "I Will Always Love You" - Whitney Houston 19. "Gangsta's Paradise" (From Dangerous Minds) - Coolio Featuring L.V. 20. "Nothing Compares 2 U" - Sinead O'Connor Ugh I wish there was a continued version of this. The 90s one is so inaccurate.
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Post by iHype. on Jul 22, 2018 23:37:16 GMT -5
Also, it's worth noting the 90s Decade-End was compiled so badly even Billboard now disregards it. They recreated a 90s decade-end based on the same way they compile decade/all-time charts now. The Top 20 Billboard Hot 100 Hits of the 1990s1. "How Do I Live" - LeAnn Rimes 2. "Macarena (Bayside Boys Mix)" - Los Del Rio 3. "Un-Break My Heart" - Toni Braxton 4. "Foolish Games/You Were Meant For Me" - Jewel 5. "(Everything I Do) I Do It For You" - Bryan Adams 6. "I'll Make Love To You" - Boyz II Men 7. "Too Close" - Next 8. "One Sweet Day" - Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men 9. "Truly Madly Deeply" - Savage Garden 10. "Candle In The Wind 1997/Something About The Way You Look Tonight" - Elton John 11. "End Of The Road" (From Boomerang) - Boyz II Men 12. "The Sign" - Ace Of Base 13. "The Boy Is Mine" - Brandy and Monica 14. "Because I Love You (The Postman Song)" - Stevie B 15. "Whoomp! (There It Is)" - Tag Team 16. "Rush Rush" - Paula Abdul 17. "You're Still The One" - Shania Twain 18. "I Will Always Love You" - Whitney Houston 19. "Gangsta's Paradise" (From Dangerous Minds) - Coolio Featuring L.V. 20. "Nothing Compares 2 U" - Sinead O'Connor Ugh I wish there was a continued version of this. The 90s one is so inaccurate. I could probably make a continued top 100 this week if there isn't already one existing.
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