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Post by desertfloods on Sept 26, 2018 13:03:26 GMT -5
This just went for adds two weeks ago so everybody just take a deep breath and calm down. You know that asking people to calm down will end up sending the already panicky ones into bigger panic? lol
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Post by Sugar Rush on Sept 26, 2018 23:08:59 GMT -5
Listening to the album repeatedly since release week day now, I seriously question why 'Love Wins' was chosen as single #2. It's a nice, feel-good, song that is important for a county artist of her calibre to release.. but on the other end I just find it weak overall and meant to be a duller moment on the album. So many good options, Backsliding, Drinking Alone, Low.. and they went with this. Again, I think this era is more about Carrie doing what she wants since she doesn't need to prove anything anymore but success is still / always nice.
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 30, 2018 9:39:22 GMT -5
Listening to the album repeatedly since release week day now, I seriously question why 'Love Wins' was chosen as single #2. It's a nice, feel-good, song that is important for a county artist of her calibre to release.. but on the other end I just find it weak overall and meant to be a duller moment on the album. So many good options, Backsliding, Drinking Alone, Low.. and they went with this. Again, I think this era is more about Carrie doing what she wants since she doesn't need to prove anything anymore but success is still / always nice. They could have released it 4th or 5th as a "message" song if Carrie really wanted it out there because, really, as it is it's going to kill the momentum of the era.
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Post by raylatch98 on Sept 30, 2018 21:55:50 GMT -5
"Love Wins" debuts in the Mediabase Top 50 at #47 officially. Carrie Underwood has a bullet of 218 which is not bad at all given how backed up the charts are right now.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Sept 30, 2018 21:57:53 GMT -5
"Love Wins" debuts in the Mediabase Top 50 at #47 officially. Carrie Underwood has a bullet of 218 which is not bad at all given how backed up the charts are right now. She's #41 in AI too, so she should be much higher than #47 on Billboard! Hopefully she'll move up a couple spots on BB tomorrow
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Post by raylatch98 on Sept 30, 2018 21:59:23 GMT -5
"Love Wins" debuts in the Mediabase Top 50 at #47 officially. Carrie Underwood has a bullet of 218 which is not bad at all given how backed up the charts are right now. She's #41 in AI too, so she should be much higher than #47 on Billboard! Hopefully she'll move up a couple spots on BB tomorrow I think she will. I won't be doing predictions but she should be at least at or right below her Billboard peak of #34 set a couple weeks back.
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Post by Sugar Rush on Oct 1, 2018 14:28:33 GMT -5
There really was no momentum this era since 'Cry Pretty' stalled in the top ten. I think her label, and Carrie, are serious about crossover potential/international success need to look at the statistics on Spotify, Apple Radio, iTunes (during release week) to see which songs would do well. We know 'TSWYMLT' pulled in good streams - which would make it a prime choice for CHR, and 'Drinking Alone' was the one that responded the best to iTunes.
But again, that's IF they are actively focused on this. Right now I think they're just focused on letting Carrie choose what she wants, and if that's the case I see why she wanted 'Love Wins'. If she has a viral enough performance at the AMAs, she could still created new momentum.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2018 14:34:44 GMT -5
^Wow no momentum! Imagine how many more records she would have broken with momentum!
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Oct 1, 2018 21:06:40 GMT -5
Most increased audience in the 2nd half of the Billboard chart as it rises back up 40-37 in its 3rd week. If this song (and every song around it) has another week like this one next week, Love Wins should move pretty close to the top 30.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2018 3:09:47 GMT -5
I’m still rooting for this. I think it’s great that she’s in a position where she has a large say in the material she wants to heavily promote. I get why many are not a fan of this representing the whole record but it’s a song I feel the public could latch on to more so then the predecessor single.
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Post by recordyear on Oct 7, 2018 21:20:52 GMT -5
Looks like she is performing Spinning Bottles on AMA!
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Post by .indulgecountry on Oct 7, 2018 21:28:05 GMT -5
Glad to see she's going to perform an album track on the AMAs instead of just doing "Love Wins," which she can do next month at the CMAs anyway. "Spinning Bottles" is a great choice, too. I can see that being a real moment for her and drumming up some interest in her new era from outside the country spectrum. Can't wait to see her nail that one.
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Post by musicfan134 on Oct 7, 2018 22:15:13 GMT -5
Wait, the AMA's are next week? I thought they were normally late November?
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Post by travelrocks24 on Oct 8, 2018 5:17:05 GMT -5
Wait, the AMA's are next week? I thought they were normally late November? The CMA's are in November.
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Post by NeRD on Oct 8, 2018 7:20:09 GMT -5
Wait, the AMA's are next week? I thought they were normally late November? The CMA's are in November. The AMAs are usually in November too. So glad she's performing Spinning Bottles. That'll be a showstopper.
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Post by musicfan134 on Oct 8, 2018 16:32:01 GMT -5
^Out of curiosity, why did they move them? Anyone know?
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Post by 14887fan on Oct 8, 2018 17:34:38 GMT -5
Moved to a Tuesday in October to avoid competition with the NFL. www.thewrap.com/2018-american-music-awards-amas-tuesday-nfl-football/Their Sunday options for November were: 11/4 (2 days before the Midterm Elections), 11/11 (Veteran's Day), and 11/18 (Sunday Night Football, which they got killed by on the same weekend last year). Makes sense for them to move to mid-week in October, but 10/9 is pretty early.
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Post by recordyear on Oct 10, 2018 20:23:06 GMT -5
The videos for performance on AMAs and Jimmy Kimmel Live are uploaded to Youtube.
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Oct 16, 2018 15:36:12 GMT -5
How is this doing on the charts?
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Post by loveofmusic on Oct 16, 2018 16:22:59 GMT -5
How is this doing on the charts? #34 on Billboard Country Airplay
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 18, 2018 10:18:21 GMT -5
Its bullet is very minimal. I don’t understand what they’re doing.
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Post by raylatch98 on Oct 18, 2018 10:27:13 GMT -5
Its bullet is very minimal. I don’t understand what they’re doing. Who radio or the label. This chart run is discouraging especially since on Mediabase Eli Young Band just passed her. I wonder if the underperformance of "Cry Pretty" has kind of made radio hesitant with this era. I am fearing that radio wise this album era could go like Miranda Lambert's last one did where the lead single struggles into the Top 15 and followups fail or maybe just scratch the Top 20.
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Post by g8erboi on Oct 18, 2018 10:49:21 GMT -5
While I’m also a little concerned at the performance thus far, this is climbing at a very similar pace to Kenny’s latest. I think both will be fine in end as long as promotion isn’t prematurely dropped.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Oct 18, 2018 12:22:07 GMT -5
While I’m also a little concerned at the performance thus far, this is climbing at a very similar pace to Kenny’s latest. I think both will be fine in end as long as promotion isn’t prematurely dropped. And Jason's. And Keith's. And Blake's. jhomes87 pointed out in a marvelous post in the Weekly Predictions thread the other day that most of the A-listers on the charts right now are having a slow go of it. So yeah, on paper the current trajectory for "Love Wins" is pretty abysmal for Carrie's standards, but looking at the bigger picture, it seems like we're going through an odd logjam on the charts right now that's even slowing up all the big stars who usually climb much faster.
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Post by raylatch98 on Oct 18, 2018 12:25:41 GMT -5
I am curious when the logjam begins to loosen up how fast all of these A-listers will move post logjam. I don't know if i see all of Jason Aldean, Keith Urban, Carrie Underwood, Kenny Chesney, and Blake Shelton songs being all that successful.
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Post by dm2081 on Oct 18, 2018 12:25:44 GMT -5
I think this song, Kenny’s latest and Keith’s latest are all in trouble. Especially Keith’s since the sales are horrible and it’s a genre-pushing song. The sales and streaming for “Love Wins” needs to pickup also or this could become Carrie’s lowest peaking single to date.
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Post by raylatch98 on Oct 18, 2018 12:27:14 GMT -5
I think this song, Kenny’s latest and Keith’s latest are all in trouble. Especially Keith’s since the sales are horrible and it’s a genre-pushing song. The sales and streaming for “Love Wins” needs to pickup also or this could become Carrie’s lowest peaking single to date. But like indulge said all of the A-listers are struggling so in the large scale this isn't in that immense trouble. Or are these songs the one of the A listers that you are the most concerned about?
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Post by 14887fan on Oct 18, 2018 12:28:43 GMT -5
I'd be fine with this being her lowest peaking single to date and having them move on to anything else off of the album, as basically everything else from Cry Pretty is a standout track and would be a solid single choice. (Can't remember the last time/ever saying that about a Carrie album.)
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Post by dm2081 on Oct 18, 2018 12:58:24 GMT -5
I think this song, Kenny’s latest and Keith’s latest are all in trouble. Especially Keith’s since the sales are horrible and it’s a genre-pushing song. The sales and streaming for “Love Wins” needs to pickup also or this could become Carrie’s lowest peaking single to date. But like indulge said all of the A-listers are struggling so in the large scale this isn't in that immense trouble. Or are these songs the one of the A listers that you are the most concerned about? Well I'm not worried about Aldean at all, his sales look pretty good at the moment and his song is standard radio friendly stuff. Keith is in big trouble. Kenny we knew would be a long journey since its a super slow ballad. Carrie surprises me the most out of all of them because "Love Wins" seems pretty radio friendly and not too different from her other material (unlike "Cry Pretty"). The reception by both radio and the listeners hasn't been too strong. So yeah, I don't buy the hypothesis that its a logjam on the charts causing these to all go slow. Yeah the charts are crowded now, but if you look closely, how many of those songs stuck in traffic are true big time mega hits? I only see a couple: "She Got The Best Of Me", "Simple" (which is now dropping like a rock), "Lose It", "Drunk Me", "Speechless", and maybe "Burning Man" and "Down To The Honkytonk". Its not like the chart is crowded with big hits like we've seen before. This honestly seems like the perfect time to use new A-list singles to zoom up the chart. I'm sure audiences are more interested in the second single from Carrie Underwood then a Chris Young song that has set the new standard for embarrassing sales and streams. I think these new singles are all just a little underwhelming, with the exception of maybe Aldean which seems to be selling pretty well right now.
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Post by jhomes87 on Oct 18, 2018 14:56:24 GMT -5
I am actually quite concerned about "Love Wins" as well as Keith's "Never Comin' Down". Kenny's "Better Boat" also isn't doing that well, but Carrie and Keith look to be struggling the most. Jason's "Girl Like You" was in the 170s on iTunes a week ago but was up at #68 this morning, which is really good, and his airplay updates are starting to really pick up this week. I do think he got off to a bit slower of a start than normal (by his standards anyway), but that's most likely because "You Make It Easy" and especially "Drowns The Whiskey" are still receiving a lot of airplay and his label sent "Girl Like You" to radio pretty much right after "Drowns The Whiskey" hit #1. Jason's last two singles were really big hits for him and while I don't foresee "Girl Like You" becoming as big of a hit as either of his previous singles, I do think it'll end up being a pretty sizable hit when all is said and done, and I don't think it should have too much trouble (if any) moving up the chart from here on out.
Blake is far enough up the chart that he'll probably make the top 3 without much trouble, although "Turnin' Me On" is definitely going to be another soft hit for him. However, at least it's doing moderately well and he doesn't have to worry about stalling out in the lower portion of the chart. Carrie and Keith are definitely in trouble though. Both songs look like they're going to struggle just to make the top 30. It seems likely that the rest of the A-listers (other than maybe Kenny) will be able to weather the storm, but Carrie and Keith are definitely in danger of peaking somewhere in the 30s or 20s because both of their singles are performing extremely poorly. I think Kenny can probably make it into the teens at least, but not sure how high I see him climbing either.
I admit that "Love Wins" wouldn't have been my choice for single #2 (and "Cry Pretty" would not have been a single if I'd been in charge) but I'm still pretty surprised that it's struggling this badly, because I think it's somewhat radio-friendly. I wonder if the lyrics/message are the hold-up here? And if maybe radio just isn't 'here' for this type of song right now? At the very least I think "Love Wins" is more radio-friendly than "Desperate Man", "Better Boat", and "Never Comin' Down" (a pop song that should not be at country radio) but Eric Church at least made it into the top 15 pretty easily before stalling out, and Kenny is doing a little better than Carrie is right now and seems to be more likely to peak higher than "Love Wins", at least with how things are looking right now.
There's still time for things to turn around here, but "Love Wins" is definitely not doing very well right now.
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