Avril Lavigne - "Head Above Water"

[Lumi]

[Deleted]

I love the imagery!

[g8erboi]

Yeah it’s definitely titled "Head Above Water"

[Lumi]

I'm so ready

[thelegends]

Looks awesome

[Lumi]

Reportedly out on September 19th? Haven't found a source on that though.

[Doc Indie Party Rock]

Avril doing 2018 pop? Hmmmm.....Sounds like I might just prefer "Hello Kitty" part 2.

[Active Aggressive]

K.

[Au$tin]

Sept 3, 2018 5:14:09 GMT -5 Doc Indie Party Rock said:

Avril doing 2018 pop? Hmmmm.....Sounds like I might just prefer "Hello Kitty" part 2.

What makes you think Avril of all people would be chasing trends of 2018 pop? The only trend Avril has ever chased is "do 'Girlfriend' again," and she was forced into that.

[kcdawg13]

Avril hasn't had a real radio hit in a long time, I'd love her to make a real commercial comeback, especially with her peers like Pink and Eminem doing well currently.

[Choco]

Maybe it can still happen for her solo with the right song, but she is probably done at radio without some sort of feature.

[Au$tin]

Sept 4, 2018 16:28:14 GMT -5 Choco said:

Maybe it can still happen for her solo with the right song, but she is probably done at radio without some sort of feature.

This now makes me really wish they would have pushed "Wings Clipped." It ventured just enough away from the EDM sound to not come off as dated or chasing trends and could have done well since Grey was coming off "Starving" plus even if it had a slow start, "The Middle" wasn't too far behind to have helped it. Even if it wouldn't have smashed and just made a small dent, it still would have been a wonderful way to get Avril back into a limelight before embarking on a new album. Definitely would have helped with the streaming crowd as well.

[Active Aggressive]

Sept 4, 2018 11:51:10 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Sept 3, 2018 5:14:09 GMT -5 Doc Indie Party Rock said:

Avril doing 2018 pop? Hmmmm.....Sounds like I might just prefer "Hello Kitty" part 2.

What makes you think Avril of all people would be chasing trends of 2018 pop? The only trend Avril has ever chased is "do 'Girlfriend' again," and she was forced into that.

LOL. Don't bother with him. He only listens to the stuff that makes Pitchfork's Best Of The Year - you know, the kind of music where people yelp atonally, howl, and bang violently on their drum kits.

[Doc Indie Party Rock]

Sept 4, 2018 11:51:10 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Sept 3, 2018 5:14:09 GMT -5 Doc Indie Party Rock said:

Avril doing 2018 pop? Hmmmm.....Sounds like I might just prefer "Hello Kitty" part 2.

What makes you think Avril of all people would be chasing trends of 2018 pop? The only trend Avril has ever chased is "do 'Girlfriend' again," and she was forced into that.

It's called speculation. That's why I put the?  I'll get to this when the actual songs is out.

[Doc Indie Party Rock]

Sept 4, 2018 20:29:18 GMT -5 Active Aggressive said:

Sept 4, 2018 11:51:10 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

What makes you think Avril of all people would be chasing trends of 2018 pop? The only trend Avril has ever chased is "do 'Girlfriend' again," and she was forced into that.

LOL. Don't bother with him. He only listens to the stuff that makes Pitchfork's Best Of The Year - you know, the kind of music where people yelp atonally, howl, and bang violently on their drum kits.

Just saying I like hard rock with "Fiercely played guitars" is less confusing. 

[Au$tin]

Sept 5, 2018 3:54:18 GMT -5 Doc Indie Party Rock said:

Sept 4, 2018 11:51:10 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

What makes you think Avril of all people would be chasing trends of 2018 pop? The only trend Avril has ever chased is "do 'Girlfriend' again," and she was forced into that.

It's called speculation. That's why I put the?  I'll get to this when the actual songs is out.

So? Am I not allowed to question your speculation? Or are discussion boards meant to be one sided? I'm genuinely curious why you think Avril Lavigne of all people is about to drop another "No Brainer" or "God is a woman." Why do you speculate this?

Sept 4, 2018 20:29:18 GMT -5 Active Aggressive said:

Sept 4, 2018 11:51:10 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

What makes you think Avril of all people would be chasing trends of 2018 pop? The only trend Avril has ever chased is "do 'Girlfriend' again," and she was forced into that.

LOL. Don't bother with him. He only listens to the stuff that makes Pitchfork's Best Of The Year - you know, the kind of music where people yelp atonally, howl, and bang violently on their drum kits.

Eh, I won't fault him on that since I tend to like a fair percentage of Pitchfork's picks as well, but it's mostly due to sheer coincidence rather than actively seeking it out. Besides, isn't drindie like the only other MisterWives stan on here besides me? Lol.

[Active Aggressive]

Just saying, bae, I've noticed a pattern with that one - like a calico mixed with pinstripes and polka dots pattern.

[Doc Indie Party Rock]

Sept 5, 2018 11:04:08 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Sept 5, 2018 3:54:18 GMT -5 Doc Indie Party Rock said:

It's called speculation. That's why I put the?  I'll get to this when the actual songs is out.

So? Am I not allowed to question your speculation? Or are discussion boards meant to be one sided? I'm genuinely curious why you think Avril Lavigne of all people is about to drop another "No Brainer" or "God is a woman." Why do you speculate this?

Sept 4, 2018 20:29:18 GMT -5 Active Aggressive said:

LOL. Don't bother with him. He only listens to the stuff that makes Pitchfork's Best Of The Year - you know, the kind of music where people yelp atonally, howl, and bang violently on their drum kits.

Eh, I won't fault him on that since I tend to like a fair percentage of Pitchfork's picks as well, but it's mostly due to sheer coincidence rather than actively seeking it out. Besides, isn't drindie like the only other MisterWives stan on here besides me? Lol.

Quick answer would be , because I think she might want to make a quick and guaranteed buck,and record company might TELL her to do so.. The truth is I would be more than ecstatic if she decides to release an single like her 2013 album. The first three singles were great, but the sad reality is Hot 100 has all but exiled the 2000's sound. I admit I'm out of touch with the Hot 100 of 2018, but I know it a whole different world musically than when Avril was at her peak. Also I'm not single ing out Avril either. I'm actually looking closely at other popular 90' and 2000's acts , like 30 Seconds To Mars, Muse ,Coldplay , just to name a few, and noticing the major change in their sound. I'm trying to give her the benefit of the doubt and say there is a slight 40% she will go the 2018 pop rout. The final clue, would be the photo from Twitter, which doesn't give me hopes, we will be getting "Here's To Never Growing Up" part II. That's my reasons. They might not be deep thought provoking reasons, but I'm not that hard to figure out. I hope I'm wrong, because I'm itching to chart some new Avril Lavign.

Now why you are so sure she wouldn't release a Taylor Swift or Ariana Grande type song? 


That last part of MisterWives is 100% true. I'd take a bullet for that band.


 

[Snowbeast]

Hi guys,

I’m so excited to finally be able to announce the first single off my new album along with its release date. Five years have gone by since I released my last album. I spent the last few years at home sick fighting Lyme Disease. Those were the worst years of my life as I went through both physical and emotional battles. I was able to turn that fight into music I’m really proud of. I wrote songs in my bed and on the couch and recorded there mostly as well. Words and lyrics that were so true to my experience came pouring out of me effortlessly. Truly... by keeping my spirits up, having goals to reach and a purpose to live for, my music helped to heal me and keep me alive.

Thank you for waiting so patiently as I fought through and still continue to fight, the battle of my lifetime. The first song I am choosing to release is called “Head Above Water.” It is also the first song I wrote from my bed during one of the scariest moments of my life. I had accepted death and could feel my body shutting down. I felt like I was drowning. Like I was going under water and I just needed to come up for air. Like I was in a river being pulled in a current. Unable to breathe. Praying to God for Him to help me just keep my head above the water. To help me see through the stormy weather. I grew closer to Him. My mother held me. In her arms, I wrote the first song that I am releasing to tell my story. I later met a beautiful soul, Travis Clark, and we sat down at the piano and sculpted the rest of the song. Then I took it to the genius, Stephan Moccio and love what he did to the music.

I have decided to be truthful about my struggle, open and more vulnerable than ever before. And to be honest, part of me doesn’t want to talk about being sick because I want it to all be behind me, but I know I have to. Because not only is it a part of my life, I need to bring awareness to the severity of Lyme Disease. A single bug bite can fuck you up hard. People aren’t aware that Lyme must be treated almost immediately. Often if they are aware, they go untreated simply because they can’t get a Lyme diagnosis! And even when they do get a diagnosis, a lot of times they simply can’t afford the treatment.

My Foundation wants to be sure that doesn’t happen as often as it does, so on our website, we’re now providing Lyme prevention resources, and links so you can connect with Lyme Literate doctors (that have learned how to correctly diagnose this disease and provide treatment as quickly as possible). Soon we’ll be announcing an alliance with top scientific teams that will accelerate Lyme research. And we’re about to launch an initiative that YOU can help us with - so that together, we can help more individuals affected by Lyme Disease get the treatment they desperately need to come out the other side of this insidious disease. Please, join us in the fight while I tell the world my story and bring awareness to Lyme Disease. I’m taking my life back into my own hands and doing what it is I know I am meant to be doing in this life time. Making music. And sharing my healing and hope, through my music. I wish for this all to touch you, to bring you strength, to lift you up, to inspire and to encourage you. I want more than ANYTHING to be back up on stage. To be holding my guitars and running around. To sing my heart out and travel around the world to see all of my fans. I will do EVERYTHING I can to get back up on stage, to travel, to sing to you, to work again. But I have to always listen to my body and keep a healthy balance, so please be patient as we go. I wrote and recorded this album and to me this is a victorious moment. A huge accomplishment. I am very proud and thankful to everyone who waited so patiently and lovingly with me to support this process for me.

Here. I now have a very strong, triumphant, powerful and true record to me and my experiences over the last few years. My first single is called “Head Above Water”, and it will be here on September 19th. I’m so excited to be returning with new music and to have you on this journey with me. Let’s do this! New era!

All My Love,

[Au$tin]

Sept 6, 2018 2:26:23 GMT -5 Doc Indie Party Rock said:

Sept 5, 2018 11:04:08 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

So? Am I not allowed to question your speculation? Or are discussion boards meant to be one sided? I'm genuinely curious why you think Avril Lavigne of all people is about to drop another "No Brainer" or "God is a woman." Why do you speculate this?

Eh, I won't fault him on that since I tend to like a fair percentage of Pitchfork's picks as well, but it's mostly due to sheer coincidence rather than actively seeking it out. Besides, isn't drindie like the only other MisterWives stan on here besides me? Lol.

Quick answer would be , because I think she might want to make a quick and guaranteed buck,and record company might TELL her to do so.. The truth is I would be more than ecstatic if she decides to release an single like her 2013 album. The first three singles were great, but the sad reality is Hot 100 has all but exiled the 2000's sound. I admit I'm out of touch with the Hot 100 of 2018, but I know it a whole different world musically than when Avril was at her peak. Also I'm not single ing out Avril either. I'm actually looking closely at other popular 90' and 2000's acts , like 30 Seconds To Mars, Muse ,Coldplay , just to name a few, and noticing the major change in their sound. I'm trying to give her the benefit of the doubt and say there is a slight 40% she will go the 2018 pop rout. The final clue, would be the photo from Twitter, which doesn't give me hopes, we will be getting "Here's To Never Growing Up" part II. That's my reasons. They might not be deep thought provoking reasons, but I'm not that hard to figure out. I hope I'm wrong, because I'm itching to chart some new Avril Lavign.

Now why you are so sure she wouldn't release a Taylor Swift or Ariana Grande type song? 


That last part of MisterWives is 100% true. I'd take a bullet for that band.


 

Why am I sure? It's not her and has never been her. The image you're speaking of does not at all scream "trendy pop music" but rather "ballad," which is certifiably not a trend in 2018. Midtempo and a general sense of depression/chill vibes are really in right now, though, and she could go that route a bit, but only in a general sense and not in the actual sound/genre that's ruling it. I just cannot at all imagine Avril on anything that could also be done by Khalid or Halsey. And as I pointed out, she's never chased trends so I don't know why she would now, and a new label would support the idea that she wouldn't more than she would. Usually when artists switch labels, the new team that wanted them in the first place wanted them because they thought they could better market their artistry, not change their entire image. Case in point: Kelly Clarkson. Meaning of Life is absolutely something she wanted to make and was very much within her lane rather than a trend chasing pop/contemporary album I'm sure her old label RCA would have rather she done.

Now if this were 2013, I could see it. "Here's to Never Growing Up" wasn't but two shakes away from "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together," but even when that dropped, Taylor was getting compared to old Avril, particularly "Complicated." So I really wouldn't say that was trend chasing, just going back to her roots coincidentally around the same time another artist decided to take that route as well. It certainly wasn't a trend either since the only other artist I can think of that decided to go for that whole vibe of Red was Hilary Duff, and that was two years later, lol.

Anyway, this comes out September 19.

[Choco]

I'm here for her doing an honest album about her recent struggles. I don't think she had much to say with her last two albums which is why they didn't reasonate with her fans the way something like Under My Skin did.

[Active Aggressive]

Yolanda Hadid-Foster would be so proud!

[Chris Ng]

I hope it will debut on Hot 100 at least. All of her official singles debuted on Hot 100.

[Chris Ng]

moderator should move it back to the single section

[Juan Carlos]

Sept 6, 2018 23:06:14 GMT -5 Chris Ng said:

moderator should move it back to the single section

Actually, this thread hasn't been in the CHR/Pop forum if you mean that with 'single section'.

Either way, the reason why this is here and not there is only because there's not any information that this is going to be pushed to radio yet. I mean, I don't think anyone is doubting their single status.

[Snowbeast]

Sept 6, 2018 23:06:14 GMT -5 Chris Ng said:

moderator should move it back to the single section

I will be very, very shocked if a first-Avril single doesn’t get an adds date, but once All Access lists a concrete adds date then it’ll get moved over. I think it’s more of what category to put this. Will BMG send it to CHR, or skip it for the first time in her career and focus on Adult AC only to start?

[Normi]

Excited what she'll do next, been enjoying a lot of her stuff

[koogles]

etcanada.com/news/364000/avril-lavigne-has-the-internet-buzzing-over-mysterious-photo/

[Juan Carlos]

Goes for Hot AC adds on October 8 according to AllAccess.

[Snowbeast]

Sept 11, 2018 14:03:29 GMT -5 Juan Carlos said:

Goes for Hot AC adds on October 8 according to AllAccess.

Wow. They’re really not even trying with pop this go. Good for her. Sell some ALBUMS.