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Post by amore on Sept 3, 2018 18:57:49 GMT -5
With collabs obviously nothing is guaranteed and it depends a lot on the song itself and how it's marketed, but definitely the bigger each artist is and the bigger they are right at the time and in the moment, the chances definitely increase of the song being huge. For instance with One Sweet Day, both artists were probably two of the top five biggest acts right at that time, and were both coming right off of extremely successful eras, so the probability that it would be at least a fairly big top 10 hit were VERY VERY high, and also the best shot there could be at predicting a huge #1, which obviously it ended up being. It's not about saying 100% or absolutely for sure, but you can definitely say in terms of how good their chances are and probability-wise, for instance the biggest stars maybe 70%, mid-range maybe 30%, nobodies maybe 0.05%, etc. Okay but Drake nor Montana are as big as Mariah and BTM in 1995/96. |
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Sept 3, 2018 19:10:16 GMT -5
Sorry, but since when is French Montana a big artist? I'll name at least 50 bigger artists from this decade.
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Post by Gary on Sept 3, 2018 19:19:24 GMT -5
French Montana has had 28 weeks in the Artist 100, including a week at #10
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Sept 3, 2018 19:27:12 GMT -5
^ Yeah, that's pretty average to me.
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Sept 3, 2018 19:38:48 GMT -5
French Montana isn’t a big artist at all. He’s only had one solo song chart on the Hot 100. He had a big hit last year but aside from that he’s only had minor hits.
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Post by Gary on Sept 3, 2018 19:46:28 GMT -5
French Montana on the Hot 100
Unforgettable, French Montana Featuring Swae Lee 3
Loyal, Chris Brown Featuring Lil Wayne & French Montana Or Too $hort Or Tyga 9
All The Way Up, Fat Joe, Remy Ma & Jay Z Featuring French Montana & Infared 27
No Shopping, French Montana Featuring Drake 36
Pop That, French Montana Featuring Rick Ross, Drake, Lil Wayne 36
Stay Schemin, Rick Ross Featuring Drake & French Montana 58
Ain't Worried About Nothin, French Montana 63
Lockjaw, French Montana Featuring Kodak Black 73
A Lie, French Montana Featuring The Weeknd & Max B 75
Freaks, French Montana Featuring Nicki Minaj 77
I Luh Ya Papi, Jennifer Lopez Featuring French Montana 77
Welcome To The Party, Diplo, French Montana & Lil Pump Featuring Zhavia Ward 78
Bad B*tch, French Montana Featuring Jeremih 95
Feelin' Myself, will.i.am Featuring Miley Cyrus, French Montana, Wiz Khalifa & DJ Mustard 96
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Post by TakeMe on Sept 3, 2018 19:52:26 GMT -5
With collabs obviously nothing is guaranteed and it depends a lot on the song itself and how it's marketed, but definitely the bigger each artist is and the bigger they are right at the time and in the moment, the chances definitely increase of the song being huge. For instance with One Sweet Day, both artists were probably two of the top five biggest acts right at that time, and were both coming right off of extremely successful eras, so the probability that it would be at least a fairly big top 10 hit were VERY VERY high, and also the best shot there could be at predicting a huge #1, which obviously it ended up being. It's not about saying 100% or absolutely for sure, but you can definitely say in terms of how good their chances are and probability-wise, for instance the biggest stars maybe 70%, mid-range maybe 30%, nobodies maybe 0.05%, etc. Okay but Drake nor Montana are as big as Mariah and BTM in 1995/96. Speaking of Mariah, how is it that she has 18 of those number ones and from what I can see, NONE rank among the best selling singles of all time? |
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Post by Gary on Sept 3, 2018 19:57:43 GMT -5
Define sales -
CD sales - the dominant means in Mariahs prime
Digital sales - recently dominant - now dying
What list are you viewing?
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Post by Mayman on Sept 3, 2018 19:57:55 GMT -5
Okay but Drake nor Montana are as big as Mariah and BTM in 1995/96. Speaking of Mariah, how is it that she has 18 of those number ones and from what I can see, NONE rank among the best selling singles of all time?  |
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Post by brady47 on Sept 3, 2018 20:20:36 GMT -5
Okay but Drake nor Montana are as big as Mariah and BTM in 1995/96. Speaking of Mariah, how is it that she has 18 of those number ones and from what I can see, NONE rank among the best selling singles of all time? Almost all of Mariah Carey's #1 hits were local. The ones that may have made a dent worldwide are "Fantasy", "One Sweet Day" and "We Belong Together" Ironically, her biggest worldwide hits are "Without You" (#3 peak in US) and "All I Want for Christmas Is You" (#9 peak in US) In terms of US success: I think a lot of her singles didn't have longevity. |
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Sept 3, 2018 20:38:08 GMT -5
Okay but Drake nor Montana are as big as Mariah and BTM in 1995/96. Speaking of Mariah, how is it that she has 18 of those number ones and from what I can see, NONE rank among the best selling singles of all time? All I Want For Christmas Is You is the best selling female song of all time. |
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Post by Gary on Sept 3, 2018 20:39:28 GMT -5
Speaking of Mariah, how is it that she has 18 of those number ones and from what I can see, NONE rank among the best selling singles of all time? All I Want For Christmas Is You is the best selling female song of all time. For female Christmas songs - yes - not overall |
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Sept 3, 2018 20:43:22 GMT -5
All I Want For Christmas Is You is the best selling female song of all time. No. That goes to Whitney Houston I know, I just wanted to correct myself...but, it will be the best selling song (sales+streams) for a year or two. |
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Post by Gary on Sept 3, 2018 20:49:25 GMT -5
It actually depends on how you look at it - Rolling In The Deep moved 8.6 million (basically all downloads)
Whitney moved 7.2 million (a mix of physical copies and downloads)
Mariah's song is seasonal - among female Christmas songs, certainly up there but not even close overall
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Post by korbel16 on Sept 3, 2018 21:08:19 GMT -5
It actually depends on how you look at it - Rolling In The Deep moved 8.6 million (basically all downloads) Whitney moved 7.2 million (a mix of physical copies and downloads) Mariah's song is seasonal - among female Christmas songs, certainly up there but not even close overall I think it will be in however many decades it keeps coming back |
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Post by Gary on Sept 3, 2018 21:13:04 GMT -5
OK but what we THINK the alltime best selling song for a female will be in 2058 is a much different question than what currently is the all time best selling song as of 2018.
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Sept 3, 2018 21:19:43 GMT -5
The actual answer as to why Mariah’s #1s don’t have huge totals is that they often had limited releases — just enough copies pressed to ensure a #1, but not enough to deter consumers from purchasing the album instead. The main goal was to achieve peak, discontinue single, drive album sales.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 3, 2018 21:35:13 GMT -5
With collabs obviously nothing is guaranteed and it depends a lot on the song itself and how it's marketed, but definitely the bigger each artist is and the bigger they are right at the time and in the moment, the chances definitely increase of the song being huge. For instance with One Sweet Day, both artists were probably two of the top five biggest acts right at that time, and were both coming right off of extremely successful eras, so the probability that it would be at least a fairly big top 10 hit were VERY VERY high, and also the best shot there could be at predicting a huge #1, which obviously it ended up being. It's not about saying 100% or absolutely for sure, but you can definitely say in terms of how good their chances are and probability-wise, for instance the biggest stars maybe 70%, mid-range maybe 30%, nobodies maybe 0.05%, etc. I think timing and setting matters too. It might not be as relevant nowadays but having a major collab being part of one of their albums (or even just a single in general being part of an album) seems to be more beneficial than just a random one-off single. One Sweet Day followed Fantasy, a huge #1 from a brand new album that was doing well at the time as well. I forget how far after the album's release OSD came but it was still fresh yet served as a followup to a big hit on its own. Having Boyz II Men on it too was icing on that cake. Again, that doesn't make it a guarantee because both of Eminem's singles from his last album had major featured acts and neither did super well. |
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Post by colson on Sept 3, 2018 23:26:53 GMT -5
The actual answer as to why Mariah’s #1s don’t have huge totals is that they often had limited releases — just enough copies pressed to ensure a #1, but not enough to deter consumers from purchasing the album instead. The main goal was to achieve peak, discontinue single, drive album sales. Exactly. Drove up huge album sales. |
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Post by iHype. on Sept 4, 2018 0:48:43 GMT -5
Mariah's #1's aren't in the best-selling ever because single sales peaked 2006-2016?
You can't compare single sales from 2006-2016 to anytime before. Only 2 songs pre-iTunes ever sold over 5 million, while 50+ songs have since sold 5 million in digital sales.
One Sweet Day sold 2.35m physical singles, which was the 11th highest of the 1990s. (Meanwhile in 2012 for comparison, the #11 selling song of the year did 3 million+ alone lol) I'm pretty sure that'd put it the top 50-100 in all-time sales then at the time.
There's also obviously big classics that went on to sell millions in the digital era (I Will Always Love You, Don't Stop Believing, Billie Jean, Eye of The Tiger, etc) but obviously she doesn't have a song that big (aside from AIWFCIY during Holidays) in recurrent stats. Still doesn't mean her #1's weren't big at the time.
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Post by shayonce on Sept 4, 2018 1:19:55 GMT -5
yeha. here is the information from RIAA
US Physical Single Shipment
1973~1981, Vynyl single 150~200m
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1987 87.1m (5.1m C + 82m V)
1988 89.7m (1.6m CD + 22.5m C + 65.6m V)
1989 112.8m (76.2m C + 36.6m V)
1990 116.1m (1.1m CD + 87.4m C + 27.6m V)
1991 96.7m (5.7m CD + 69m C + 22m)
1992 111.7m (7.3m CD + 84.6m C + 19.8m V)
1993 108.5m (7.8m CD + 85.6m C + 15.1m V)
1994 102.1m (9.3m CD + 81.1m C + 11.7m V)
1995 102.4m (21.5m CD + 70.7m C + 10.2m V)
1996 113.2m (43.2m CD + 59.9m C + 10.1m V)
1997 116.4m (66.7m CD + 42.2m C + 7.5m V)
1998 87.8m (56m CD + 26.4m C +5.4m V)
1999 75.4m (55.9m CD + 14.2m C + 5.3m V)
2000 40.3m (34.2m CD + 1.3m C +4.8m V)
2001 22.8m (17.3m CD + 5.5m V)
2002 8.9m (4.5m CD + 4.4m V)
2003 12.1m (8.3m CD + 3.8m V)
2004 6.6m (3.1m CD + 3.5m V)
US Download Single Sales (In Unit)
2004 139.4m
2005 366.9m
2006 568.4m
2007 819.4m
2008 1,042.7m
2009 1,124.4m
2010 1,177.4m
2011 1,332.3m
2012 1,392.2m
2013 1,332.8m
2014 1,167.1m
2015 994.5m
2016 751.2m
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Post by Leo ✔ on Sept 4, 2018 11:24:35 GMT -5
By no means is Kehlani a big artist. LIKE. Her biggest single to date is CRZY, I think, and that song peaked at #85 on the Hot 100 chart. "Gangsta" says hi. |
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Post by slw84 on Sept 4, 2018 12:04:04 GMT -5
yeha. here is the information from RIAA US Physical Single Shipment1992 111.7m (7.3m CD + 84.6m C + 19.8m V)1995 102.4m (21.5m CD + 70.7m C + 10.2m V)  1996 113.2m (43.2m CD + 59.9m C + 10.1m V) 1997 116.4m (66.7m CD + 42.2m C + 7.5m V) US Download Single Sales (In Unit)
2012 1,392.2m
1992 and 2012 being low-quality years for music but having amongst the highest numbers whew chile, the ghetto... |
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Post by jtd Thee Stallion on Sept 4, 2018 12:06:50 GMT -5
1992 I could agree with but 2012? God no, that was one of the best years of this decade.
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Post by Gary on Sept 4, 2018 12:08:26 GMT -5
All a matter of opinion, I think
Your favorite years tend to tie to where you are in life, events that happen in that year, etc. that cause you to relate to more popular songs
Different years for everyone basically
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Post by Gary on Sept 4, 2018 12:19:13 GMT -5
Drake Ties Usher for Most Total Weeks at No. 1 on Billboard Hot 100 Among Solo Males; Khalid & Normani Hit Top 10
9/4/2018 by Gary Trust
Drake logs his 47th frame at the summit, as "In My Feelings" rules for an eighth week. Plus, Khalid & Normani's "Love Lies" lifts 11-9.
Drake's "In My Feelings" notches an eighth week at No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart (dated Sept. 8). Among his six career No. 1s, he has now led the Hot 100 for 47 total weeks, matching Usher for the most time at the top spot among male soloists.
Drake also leads the Hot 100 for a 27th week in 2018, thanks to his three No. 1s this year, moving to within a week of Usher's record for the most time on top in a single year: 28 weeks in 2004.
Plus, Khalid and Normani's "Love Lies" rises 11-9 on the Hot 100, becoming Khalid's second top 10 and first in a lead role and Normani's first as a soloist, apart from Fifth Harmony.
Let's run down the top 10 on the newest Hot 100, which blends all-genre U.S. streaming, radio airplay and digital sales data. All charts will update on Billboard.com tomorrow (Sept. 5).
As it leads the Hot 100 for an eighth week, "Feelings," released on Young Money/Cash Money/Republic Records, likewise posts an eighth frame at No. 1 on the Streaming Songs chart, with 50.5 million U.S. streams, down 15 percent, in the week ending Aug. 30, according to Nielsen Music. (The song set the weekly streaming record on the chart dated July 28 with 116.2 million, then driven largely by the viral "In My Feelings" challenge before its official video arrived Aug. 2.)
"Feelings" drops 2-4 on the Digital Song Sales chart, which it led for six weeks (26,000 downloads sold, down 14 percent, in the week ending Aug. 30), and holds at No. 4 on Radio Songs, where it reached No. 3 (93 million audience impressions, down 12 percent, in the week ending Sept. 2).
With "Feelings" continuing its Hot 100 command, Drake ties Usher for the most total weeks at No. 1 among solo males: 47 each. Here is a look at the acts to spend the most time at No. 1 (and their number of leaders) in the Hot 100's 60-year history:
79 weeks, Mariah Carey (18 No. 1s)
60 weeks, Rihanna (14)
59 weeks, The Beatles (20)
50 weeks, Boyz II Men (five)
47 weeks, Drake (six)
47 weeks, Usher (nine)
41 weeks, Beyoncé (six)
37 weeks, Michael Jackson (13)
34 weeks, Elton John (nine)
Notably, Usher has spent all 47 of his weeks at No. 1 with lead-artist billing; Drake has been a lead artist on 37 of his 47 frames at the apex. (Mariah Carey has been lead on all of her record 79 weeks at No. 1.)
Further, Drake has now led the Hot 100 for 27 weeks in 2018, as, prior to "Feelings," "Nice for What" spent eight weeks at No. 1 beginning April 21, directly succeeding "God's Plan" after 11 weeks on top (with all songs from his album Scorpion). As he passes The Black Eyed Peas for a solo share of the second-best yearly sum, here is an update of the acts to spend the most time at No. 1 in any January-December period; Drake boasts the second- and fourth-best totals:
28 weeks, Usher, 2004
27 weeks, Drake, 2018
26 weeks, The Black Eyed Peas, 2009
19 weeks, Drake, 2016
19 weeks, Puff Daddy, 1997
18 weeks, Monica, 1998
18 weeks, The Beatles, 1964
17 weeks, Justin Bieber, 2017
17 weeks, Beyonce, 2003
17 weeks, Nelly, 2002
17 weeks, Boyz II Men, 1994
Usher set the yearly mark of 28 weeks at No. 1 on the Hot 100 over four No. 1s in 2004: "Yeah!," featuring Lil Jon and Ludacris (12 weeks, beginning that Feb. 28); "Burn" (eight weeks, May 22); "Confessions Part II" (two, July 24); and "My Boo," with Alicia Keys (six, Oct. 30).
Additionally, rap songs have now led the Hot 100 for a record-extending 32 consecutive weeks. Along with Drake's "Feelings," "Nice" and "Plan," the streak includes Childish Gambino's "This Is America" (for two weeks); Post Malone's "Psycho," featuring Ty Dolla $ign (one); XXXTentacion's "Sad!" (one); and Cardi B, Bad Bunny and J Balvin's "I Like It" (one).
"Feelings" concurrently tops the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs and Hot Rap Songs charts for an eighth week each.
Maroon 5's "Girls Like You," featuring Cardi B, ranks at its No. 2 Hot 100 high for a fourth week, while ruling Radio Songs for a fifth frame (127.6 million, down 1 percent). It keeps at No. 3 on Digital Song Sales (28,000, down 6 percent) and No. 5 on Streaming Songs (29.7 million, down 5 percent).
Notably, with Drake's "Feelings" down 14 percent in overall activity and Maroon 5's "Girls" down 3 percent, the songs could be headed for a fairly tight battle for the top spot on next week's Hot 100.
Cardi B, Bad Bunny and J Balvin's "I Like It" holds at No. 3 on the Hot 100; Post Malone's "Better Now" hits a new peak, rising 5-4 (as it becomes his second No. 1 on the Pop Songs airplay chart, following "Psycho," for four weeks beginning in June); and 6ix9ine's "FEFE," featuring Nicki Minaj and Murda Beatz, dips 4-5 after reaching No. 3. (Plus, as Drake's "Feelings" declines by 14 percent overall and 15 percent in streaming, it now sports a relatively narrow lead over Streaming Songs runner-up "FEFE": 50.5 million vs. 48.6 million. That's the smallest streaming cushion over the top competition for "Feelings" in its run, after it led "I Like It" by a nearly three-to-one points difference the week that it tallied its record 116.2 million streams.)
Juice WRLD's No. 3-peaking "Lucid Dreams" is steady at No. 6 on the Hot 100; Travis Scott's "Sicko Mode" rebounds to No. 7 from No. 9, after hitting No. 4; and Tyga's "Taste," featuring Offset, returns to its best rank, pushing 10-8.
Khalid and Normani's "Love Lies" ascends 11-9 on the Hot 100. It bullets at No. 5 on Radio Songs (88.2 million, up 7 percent); No. 16 on Digital Song Sales (13,000, down 2 percent); and No. 31 on Streaming Songs (13.3 million, essentially even week-over-week).
Khalid earns his second Hot 100 top 10 and first as a lead artist, following his featured turn, with Alessia Cara, on Logic's "1-800-273-8255," which hit No. 3 in September 2017. Normani reaches the top 10 in her first solo visit to the Hot 100; she previously spent time in the region as a member of Fifth Harmony, which scored the No. 4-peaking "Work From Home," featuring Ty Dolla $ign, in June 2016. Normani is the second member of 5H (which is now on hiatus) to tally a solo Hot 100 top 10, following former member Camila Cabello, who has collected three.
Plus, as it hits the Hot 100's top 10 in its 28th week on the chart, "Love Lies" makes history for completing the longest climb to the top 10 among duets. It passes Billy Preston and Syreeta's "With You I'm Born Again," which took a 19-week trip to the tier, on its way to a No. 4 peak, in 1979-80. "Love Lies" is the 10th single to reach the region in 28 weeks or more, while Carrie Underwood's "Before He Cheats" holds the overall record: 38 weeks to the top 10 in 2006-07.
Rounding out the Hot 100's top 10, Ariana Grande's "God Is a Woman" slips to No. 10 from its No. 8 peak but takes top Airplay Gainer honors, as it bounds 39-27 on Radio Songs (37.1 million, up 27 percent); it surges 14-9 on Pop Songs, where it becomes Grande's 10th top 10.
Find out more Hot 100 news in the weekly "Hot 100 Chart Moves" column and by listening (and subscribing) to Billboard's Chart Beat Podcast and Pop Shop Podcast. And again, be sure to visit Billboard.com tomorrow (Sept. 5), when all charts, including the Hot 100 in its entirety, will refresh.
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Post by Gary on Sept 4, 2018 12:22:53 GMT -5
1. In My Feelings
2. Girls Like You
3. I Like It
4. Better Now
5. Fefe
6. Lucid Dreams
7. Sicko Mode
8. Taste
9. Love Lies
10. God Is A Woman
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Sept 4, 2018 12:23:43 GMT -5
YEES, no BTS in the top 10 !!!!!!
Glad for GIAW and Love Lies...Better Now also
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Post by Gary on Sept 4, 2018 12:23:48 GMT -5
Potentially Drake's last week at #1
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Post by Dylan :) on Sept 4, 2018 12:26:33 GMT -5
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