johnm1120
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Post by johnm1120 on May 9, 2023 14:21:08 GMT -5
Paula Abdul - Forever Your Girl First single (Knocked Out) only peaked at #41.
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Post by colbyco on May 10, 2023 6:47:53 GMT -5
Paula Abdul - Forever Your Girl First single (Knocked Out) only peaked at #41. I was just about to post this one. Forever Your Girl was released in July 1988 but didn't hit number 1 on Billboard until October 1989. The second single (It's Just) The Way That You Love Me originally flopped on the Hot 100 at #88 in 1988 before it's re-release in 1989 pushed it to #3 on the Hot 100.
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Post by wjr15 on May 10, 2023 7:15:21 GMT -5
Harry Styles - Fine Line (Lights Up was the lead single)
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2023 16:25:35 GMT -5
Stripped? Year end chart for 2003, had it at #10.
Dirrty peaked in the top 50. Beautiful peaked at #2. Fighter, top 20. Canβt Hold Us Down, #12. The Voice Within, top 40.
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Post by NeRD on May 15, 2023 19:00:55 GMT -5
4 Bieber's album that had Yummy on it. Pretty sure Peaches saved that era.
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Post by wjr15 on May 15, 2023 22:20:05 GMT -5
4 Bieber's album that had Yummy on it. Pretty sure Peaches saved that era. Yummy was on Changes. Peaches was on Justice.
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Post by salt on May 16, 2023 0:53:10 GMT -5
Yeah, the single on Changes that actually did well was Intentions. I still think the song sucks, but it's less obviously bad. Enough for the general public to eat it up, unlike Yummy.
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Post by π―π² lucy88 π―π² on May 16, 2023 7:39:41 GMT -5
Love Shoulda Brought You Home - Toni Braxton
Peaked at #33.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on May 16, 2023 7:47:36 GMT -5
Iβm sure for a new artist at the time, a #33 peak was a great start, especially on the Hot 100, while over on her home format, it got to #4. A pretty good start Iβd say.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on May 16, 2023 8:53:02 GMT -5
A good example of this is Gwen Stefani- Love Angel Music Baby. Where the lead single What You Waiting For only peaked at #47 on The Billboard Hot 100, the 2nd single Rich Girl peaked at #7, the 3rd single Hollaback Girl peaked at #1, the 4th single Cool peaked at #13, the 5th single Luxurious peaked at #21, the 6th single Crash peaked at #49. Can you think of any successful album in which the lead single flopped even though the next few singles were hits? It's weird how perception differs. I remember Cool and Luxurious being MASSIVE. Like, EVERYWHERE. Then, Crash at least being top 20 rather than barely top 50. I guess my area was just really into Gwen that era, lol.
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Post by jenglisbe on May 16, 2023 9:14:15 GMT -5
The single didn't flop necessarily. Did It chart like Mariah's usual singles? No. It did go gold and reach a peak of #15 and did well on airplay. The song did what it was meant to do and that was to give the public and precursor to her 2005 smash! Right, "It's Like That" was nowhere near a flop. For one, it performed better at Top 40 radio than any single with Mariah as lead artist since "My All" 7 years prior. It also went top 10 at Rhythmic radio. Additionally it went top 10 on Digital Songs and went Gold, which was pretty solid at that time. By the time it peaked in sales, it had fallen off Hot 100 Airplay, though. If its peaks had been more in line, it perhaps would have made the top 10 of the Hot 100. It also certainly helped build hype for the album and her comeback.
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Post by 85la on May 18, 2023 18:55:35 GMT -5
I'd say Bruno Mars' 24k Magic qualifies. Sure, the lead single didn't perform THAT badly, but it's performance paled in comparison to Uptown Funk. I'm pretty sure everyone was expecting it to break records on release in 2016. However, the album cycle overall managed to be a success via longevity. That's What I Like was a slow-burning #1 hit, and Finesse kept the album cycle going well into 2018. And the album overall achieved the same double platinum numbers that his previous albums did.
I wouldn't say so at all. It eventually peaked at #4 and spent 15 weeks in the top 10, so while not nearly as big as Uptown Funk or even That's What I like, it was definitely still huge.
Another good example is Chris Brown's second album Exclusive, with the lead, Wall to Wall, only reaching #79. That album would of course go on to have several smash hits, including Kiss Kiss, With You, and Forever, with No Air, the duet with Jordan Sparks, also peaking around that time.
Also, this is somewhat murky, but technically we could also add Whitney Houston's debut to the list. Her first single ever was her duet with Teddy Pendergrass, Hold Me, which appeared on both her debut and his 1984 album, Love Language, and only reached #46. I don't think they marketed this as the "lead" single for her album though, so this song probably doesn't count, but it appears they released another single before the release of her album in February 1985, Thinking About You, in January. It eventually charted on the R&B Singles chart, but not until October (either on its own or through a possible re-push after her other singles were blowing up), and was never promoted to top 40 radio. But who knows, if it had caught on earlier at R&B, it's possible they would've given it a top 40 push.
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Post by jimijoop on Jul 2, 2023 14:12:39 GMT -5
Basically every non-BTS K-pop album. (In USA & Europe at least)
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Post by avamaxstan on Jul 3, 2023 11:43:44 GMT -5
Worth mentioning that 'What You Waiting For' was an international hit on par with 'Rich Girl'. If memory serves, Billboard changed its methodology to include digital downloads at the same time 'Rich Girl' was gaining in early 2005. Songs like that, 'Since U Been Gone', and 'Mr. Brightside' immediately or quickly vaulted into the top 10 because of that fix. So, yeah, 'What You Waiting For' wasn't the radio hit 'Rich Girl' was but it wouldn't look like a total dud today had they changed the methodology a month or so earlier. Lord, Billboard has always been so late to catch up with music consumption. I mean, an airplay-only chart until 2005 The change to include digital sales in the Hot 100 formula is when non-urban pop songs started getting high peaks again, after being mostly shut out of the top 10 for the first half of the 2000s.
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Post by avamaxstan on Jul 3, 2023 11:57:50 GMT -5
A good example of this is Gwen Stefani- Love Angel Music Baby. Where the lead single What You Waiting For only peaked at #47 on The Billboard Hot 100, the 2nd single Rich Girl peaked at #7, the 3rd single Hollaback Girl peaked at #1, the 4th single Cool peaked at #13, the 5th single Luxurious peaked at #21, the 6th single Crash peaked at #49. Can you think of any successful album in which the lead single flopped even though the next few singles were hits? It's weird how perception differs. I remember Cool and Luxurious being MASSIVE. Like, EVERYWHERE. Then, Crash at least being top 20 rather than barely top 50. I guess my area was just really into Gwen that era, lol. The Hot 100 was very unrepresentative of the success of pop singles in the early/mid 2000s. The chart formula was entirely airplay, so pure pop songs that didn't get cross-format airplay had little chance of reaching the top 10.
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Post by π―π² lucy88 π―π² on Jul 3, 2023 12:30:26 GMT -5
"Happy Days" from Silk's Lose Control only peaked at #86.
"The Best Of Me", lead single from Mya's Fear of Flying peaked at #50 on the Hot 100.
"We Need A Resolution" from Aaliyah's final album peaked at #59.
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