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Post by thegreatdivine on Oct 7, 2018 9:19:11 GMT -5
Someone start a support group for those of us pressed about Perfect surviving all these album bombs week after week. I am pressed and tired. Ed Sheeran needs to be stopped. It's personal now For real. It's not funny anymore. Feels like someone keeps letting the song fall to #25 to fuck with us. I'll be really surprised if it hangs on tomorrow. |
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 7, 2018 9:21:40 GMT -5
IF Mona Lisa indeed is #1, it must have record breaking Apple Music streams because Spotify isn't THAT good (21m)
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Post by thegreatdivine on Oct 7, 2018 9:23:21 GMT -5
I'll burn the whole place down if this happens. I don't understand why so many people are so pressed about Perfect staying on the charts. Obvi people like it, so it hangs on. I guess we are concerned about year end charts? I never have been overly worried about those lol...I feel they are skewed in a sense that if anything is #1 when the chart year ends/begins, its points are divided. Lots of big fall hits end up being on the year end charts of both years and don't look nearly as big as they actually were. But anyway, yeah Perfect is a good song so...who cares? Anyone who is really mad should redirect that anger into VOTING in the midterms. LOL but not really funny. I don't know about other people, but I have issues with Billboard's year-end charts only because they're what we'll use to reflect back on songs/albums that supposedly dominated a year. For this year, Taylor Swift's reputation might very well end the year as the #1 album on the year-end chart and if Perfect hangs on, it'll end the year as the #1 song on the year-end chart, both statements that wouldn't hold true seeing as Drake has the biggest song and album of the year with God's Plan and Scorpion, but if Taylor and Ed and up taking the #1 spot in the album and song year-end charts, that's how future generations will view 2018 in a nutshell. That's ridiculous to me considering the HISTORIC year Drake has had on the charts. That's the source of my anger. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Oct 7, 2018 9:25:05 GMT -5
IF Mona Lisa indeed is #1, it must have record breaking Apple Music streams because Spotify isn't THAT good (21m) Yup. That's why I'm still surprised it's being predicted to debut at #1. It's Spotify numbers are weak and I don't think it pulled in that much more streams on Apple Music tbh. We'll wait and see. I still doubt it debuts at #1. |
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Post by renaboss on Oct 7, 2018 9:30:33 GMT -5
Wayne's mother's phone call is expected to debut on the Hot 100. I mean... lol?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 9:31:12 GMT -5
Glad that Kodak's single should debut this week
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Post by thegreatdivine on Oct 7, 2018 9:40:03 GMT -5
Wayne's mother's phone call is expected to debut on the Hot 100. I mean... lol? Eminem's phone call to Paul Rosenberg on Kamikaze debuted, I don't see the difference. If the song has enough streams during the tracking week, it'll debut on the charts. The end. |
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Post by kierz7 on Oct 7, 2018 9:40:12 GMT -5
Compared to Drake? She had a good year. Rihanna, in the streaming era, isn't nearly the force Drake is, and if Drake drops an album next year, I'm almost certain he'll have a much better year than her. So, like I said earlier, the male duck will dominate 2019 and you'll have to sit and watch it happen again like you did this year. "Not nearly the force Drake is..."? She may not move at the same pace he does with streams but she is a massive streaming force (the biggest among Females and virtually second to Drake in cumulative streams overall and most 1B+ streamed albums moved - Spotify) and for a woman who debuted 14 years ago, and has already dominated the Digital age, that's commendable. Of course she may not have a 'Scorpion' like era/bomb on the Hot 100 (she already had that with GGGB/LOUD etc.) but that's merely because she isn't a Hip-Hop act and won't release an album with 25+ tracks. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Oct 7, 2018 9:45:56 GMT -5
Compared to Drake? She had a good year. Rihanna, in the streaming era, isn't nearly the force Drake is, and if Drake drops an album next year, I'm almost certain he'll have a much better year than her. So, like I said earlier, the male duck will dominate 2019 and you'll have to sit and watch it happen again like you did this year. "Not nearly the force Drake is..."? She may not move at the same pace he does with streams but she is a massive streaming force (the biggest among Females and virtually second to Drake in cumulative streams overall and most 1B+ streamed albums - Spotify) for a woman who debuted 14 years ago, and has already dominated the Digital age, that's commendable. Of course she may not have a 'Scorpion' like era/bomb on the Hot 100 (she already had that with GGGB/LOUD etc.) but that's merely because she isn't a Hip-Hop act and won't release an album with 25+ tracks. I said in the streaming era, and I stand by that. Maybe I shouldn't have said "nearly," my bad. Rihanna is a streaming force, yes, but there are other figures who would put up bigger numbers than her right now. Right now, I'd place the biggest artists in the streaming era as: Drake, Ed Sheeran, Justin Bieber (I know he hasn't dropped an album since 2015, but he's established himself as a streaming force and his next album should more than highlight that), Post Malone and then Rihanna. I wasn't trying to take anything away from Rihanna's power. She's more than proven herself as a successful artist and I say that whenever we discuss her here. I was trying to say that Drake is a much bigger force than her in the streaming era and I'm not wrong in that assessment. Views, More Life and Scorpion - all projects released after her album ANTi, have moved more units. Drake's songs have performed better. His chart presence has been stronger. All of this has happened in the streaming era. I think Rihanna dominated the digital era the same way Drake is dominating/will continue to dominate the streaming era. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Oct 7, 2018 9:50:39 GMT -5
kierz7 also, isn't she rumoured to be working on two albums simultaneously? If she releases her next project as a double album then we can most certainly compare it to Drake's Scorpion, so don't count her dropping as many songs as are on Drake's Scorpion at once, out yet. It could very well happen (I hope it does tbh, more Rihanna is good for everybody).
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Oct 7, 2018 9:51:41 GMT -5
Wayne's mother's phone call is expected to debut on the Hot 100. I mean... lol? , I don't see the difference. If the song has enough streams during the tracking week, it'll debut on the charts. The end. Except it didn't, though. |
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Post by owenlovesmusic on Oct 7, 2018 9:56:10 GMT -5
“I Love Dwayne” is 2 minutes long. If it has enough points to chart, it will chart.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Oct 7, 2018 10:20:02 GMT -5
Eminem's phone call to Paul Rosenberg on Kamikaze debuted, I don't see the difference. If the song has enough streams during the tracking week, it'll debut on the charts. The end. Except it didn't, though. It didn't? Well, it was predicted to debut. Guess it was too short afterall. |
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Post by Soulsista on Oct 7, 2018 10:20:57 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 60, 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago:
October 6, 1958 (For the week ending October 11)
01 01 It's All In The Game - Tommy Edwards (2nd of 6 weeks at #1)
02 03 Bird Dog - The Everly Brothers
03 04 Rock-In Robin - Bobby Day
04 02 Nel Blu Dipinto Di Blu (Volare) - Domenico Modugno
05 05 Little Star - The Elegants
06 06 Tears On My Pillow - Little Anthony & The Imperials
07 07 Susie Darlin' - Robin Luke
08 14 Tea For Two Cha Cha - The Tommy Dorsey Orchestra starring Warren Covington
09 08 Summertime Blues - Eddie Cochran
10 10 Near You - Roger Williams
October 12, 1963
01 04 Sugar Shack - Jimmy Gilmer & The Fireballs (1st of 5 weeks at #1)
02 03 Be My Baby - The Ronettes
03 01 Blue Velvet - Bobby Vinton
04 05 Cry Baby - Garnet Mimms & The Enchanters
05 02 Sally, Go 'Round The Roses - The Jaynetts
06 09 Busted - Ray Charles
07 06 My Boyfriend's Back - The Angels
08 16 Mean Woman Blues - Roy Orbison
09 08 (Love Is Like a) Heat Wave - Martha & The Vandellas
10 17 Donna The Prima Donna - Dion Di Muci
October 12, 1968
01 01 Hey Jude - The Beatles (3rd of 9 weeks at #1)
02 02 Harper Valley P.T.A. - Jeannie C. Riley
03 03 Fire - The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown
04 04 Little Green Apples - O.C. Smith
05 05 Girl Watcher - The O'Kaysions
06 17 Midnight Confessions - The Grass Roots
07 18 My Special Angels - The Vogues
08 08 I've Got To Get a Message To You - The Bee Gees
09 25 Over You - Gary Puckett & The Union Gap
10 06 Slip Away - Clarence Carter
18 54 Those Were The Days - Mary Hopkin
October 13, 1973
01 01 Half-Breed - Cher (2nd and final week at #1)
02 07 Ramblin' Man - The Allman Brothers Band
03 03 Let's Get It On - Marvin Gaye
04 05 Higher Ground - Stevie Wonder
05 08 Angie - The Rolling Stones
06 06 That Lady (Part 1) - The Isley Brothers
07 02 Loves Me Like a Rock - Paul Simon w/The Dixie Hummingbirds
08 11 Midnight Train To Georgia - Gladys Knight & The Pips
09 10 Keep On Truckin' (Part 1) - Eddie Kendricks
10 04 We're An American Band - Grand Funk
October 14, 1978
01 01 Kiss You All Over - Exile (3rd of 4 weeks at #1)
02 03 Hot Child In The City - Nick Gilder
03 02 Boogie Oogie Oogie - A Taste Of Honey
04 04 Don't Look Back - Boston
05 06 Reminiscing - The Little River Band
06 09 You Needed Me - Anne Murray
07 08 Love Is In The Air - John Paul Young
08 10 Whenever I Call You "Friend" - Kenny Loggins (w/Stevie Nicks)
09 05 Summer Nights - John Travolta, Olivia Newton-John & The Cast Of Grease
10 07 Hopelessly Devoted To You - Olivia Newton-John
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Post by jtd Thee Stallion on Oct 7, 2018 10:28:29 GMT -5
It’s not about how strong Mona Lisa’s numbers are it’s about how weak the chart is right now.
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Post by dovahduck on Oct 7, 2018 10:33:44 GMT -5
"Falling Down" though... Didn't think it would collapse like that.
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Post by fhas on Oct 7, 2018 10:35:49 GMT -5
It’s not about how strong Mona Lisa’s numbers are it’s about how weak the chart is right now. THIS. SICKO MODE was stronger than Mona Lisa but the top five was so strong that week that SM debuted at #4 with 37k points (FEFE was #5 with 35k points and 56.9M streams  ). |
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 7, 2018 10:37:24 GMT -5
So you're saying the approx. 50M streams ML has is enough to #1?
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Post by Soulsista on Oct 7, 2018 10:38:27 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:
October 15, 1983
01 01 Total Eclipse Of The Heart - Bonnie Tyler (3rd of 4 weeks at #1)
02 02 Making Love Out Of Nothing At All - Air Supply
03 03 King Of Pain - The Police
04 04 True - Spandau Ballet
05 06 Islands In The Stream - Kenny Rogers & Dolly Parton
06 09 One Thing Leads To Another - The Fixx
07 14 All Night Long (All Night) - Lionel Richie
08 08 The Safety Dance - Men Without Hats
09 07 Tell Her About It - Billy Joel
10 05 (She's) Sexy + 17 - The Stray Cats
26 NE Say Say Say - Paul McCartney & Michael Jackson
October 15, 1988
01 02 Red Red Wine - UB40 (1st and only week at #1)
02 01 Love Bites - Def Leppard
03 06 Groovy Kind Of Love - Phil Collins
04 04 Don't Be Cruel - Cheap Trick
05 09 What's On Your Mind (Pure Energy) - Information Society
06 03 Don't Worry, Be Happy - Bobby McFerrin
07 13 Don't You Know What The Night Can Do? - Steve Winwood
08 11 Don't Be Cruel - Bobby Brown
09 20 Wild, Wild West - The Escape Club
10 08 I Hate Myself For Loving You - Joan Jett & The Blackhearts
October 16, 1993
01 01 Dreamlover - Mariah Carey (6th of 8 weeks at #1)
02 02 Right Here (Human Nature) / Downtown - SWV
03 04 The River Of Dreams - Billy Joel
04 03 Whoomp! (There It Is) - Tag Team
05 13 Just Kickin' It - Xscape
06 09 I'd Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That) - Meat Loaf
07 05 If - Janet Jackson
08 21 All That She Wants - Ace Of Base
09 07 Another Sad Love Song - Toni Braxton
10 14 Hey Mr. D.J. - Zhane
October 10, 1998
01 01 The First Night - Monica (2nd of 5 weeks at #1)
02 03 One Week - Barenaked Ladies
03 02 I Don't Want To Miss a Thing - Aerosmith
04 04 Crush - Jennifer Paige
05 05 I'll Be - Edwin McCain
06 NE How Deep Is Your Love - Dru Hill feat. Redman
07 12 This Kiss - Faith Hill
08 06 My Way - Usher
09 07 Time After Time - INOJ
10 10 When The Lights Go Out - Five
20 NE Just The Two Of Us - Will Smith
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Post by fhas on Oct 7, 2018 10:54:46 GMT -5
So you're saying the approx. 50M streams ML has is enough to #1? I don't think Mona Lisa has 50M streams and it doesn't need to be that big. 46M would be enough but HDD has it at 42.7M. Let's wait to see if Billboard's SEA for the album is better than HDD's (317.7k). |
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Post by Soulsista on Oct 7, 2018 10:57:46 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 Flashback:
October 11, 2003
01 01 Baby Boy - Beyonce feat. Sean Paul (2nd of 9 weeks at #1)
02 02 Shake Ya Tailfeather - Nelly, P. Diddy & Murphy Lee
03 04 Get Low - Lil Jon & The East Side Boyz feat. The Yin Yang Twins
04 03 Right Thurr - Chingy
05 05 Frontin' - Pharrell feat. Jay-Z
06 09 Damn! - Youngbloodz feat. Lil Jon
07 07 P.I.M.P. - 50 Cent
08 06 Into You - Fabolous feat. Tamia or Ashanti
09 15 Stand Up - Ludacris feat. Shawnna
10 08 Where Is The Love? - The Black Eyed Peas
October 11, 2008
01 01 Whatever You Like - T.I. (5th of 7 weeks at #1)
02 02 So What - P!nk
03 03 Love Lockdown - Kanye West
04 04 Disturbia - Rihanna
05 06 Paper Planes - M.I.A.
06 09 Hot N' Cold - Katy Perry
07 08 Can't Believe It - T-Pain feat. Lil Wayne
08 07 Closer - Ne-Yo
09 05 Love Story - Taylor Swift
10 10 American Boy - Estelle feat. Kanye West
17 NE Right Now (Na Na Na) - Akon
October 12, 2013
01 03 Royals - Lorde (1st of 9 weeks at #1)
02 02 Roar - Katy Perry
03 01 Wrecking Ball - Miley Cyrus
04 07 Hold On, We're Going Home - Drake feat. Majid Jordan
05 04 Wake Me Up! - Avicii
06 06 Holy Grail - Jay-Z feat. Justin Timberlake
07 05 Blurred Lines - Robin Thicke feat. T.I. & Pharrell
08 13 The Fox - Ylvis
09 08 Applause - Lady Gaga
10 09 Summertime Sadness - Lana Del Rey
11 NE 23 - Mike Will Made It feat. Miley Cyrus, Wiz Khalifa & Juicy J
20 NE All Me - Drake feat. 2 Chainz & Big Sean
October 14, 2017
01 01 Bodak Yellow (Money Moves) - Cardi B (2nd of 3 weeks at #1)
02 02 Rockstar - Post Malone feat. 21 Savage
03 03 Look What You Made Me Do - Taylor Swift
04 04 1-800-273-8255 - Logic feat. Alessia Cara & Khalid
05 05 Despacito - Luis Fonsi & Daddy Yankee feat. Justin Bieber
06 06 Unforgettable - French Montana feat. Swae Lee
07 10 Feel It Still - Portugal. The Man
08 07 Believer - Imagine Dragons
09 08 Rake It Up - Yo Gotti feat. Nicki Minaj
10 15 Sorry Not Sorry - Demi Lovato
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Post by fhas on Oct 7, 2018 11:02:59 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 Flashback: October 11, 200817 NE Right Now (Na Na Na) - Akon  |
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 7, 2018 11:08:00 GMT -5
So you're saying the approx. 50M streams ML has is enough to #1? I don't think Mona Lisa has 50M streams and it doesn't need to be that big. 46M would be enough but HDD has it at 42.7M. Let's wait to see if Billboard's SEA for the album is better than HDD's (317.7k). Ah ok..Wonder if we might see #1->out of top ten movement next week then |
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Post by jtd Thee Stallion on Oct 7, 2018 11:21:03 GMT -5
"Falling Down" though... Didn't think it would collapse like that. You could say it... fell down Okay I’ll leave now |
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Post by livelightning on Oct 7, 2018 11:32:12 GMT -5
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Post by Leo ✔ on Oct 7, 2018 12:06:33 GMT -5
I'd love to see "Perfect" at #25 and "God's Plan" going recurrent. Ed Sheeran showing who has the best song of the year  |
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Post by woods on Oct 7, 2018 12:08:46 GMT -5
Can Perfect gtfo
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Post by jeiboy on Oct 7, 2018 12:10:13 GMT -5
Lucid Dreams has the upper hand next week
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Post by iHype. on Oct 7, 2018 12:12:20 GMT -5
iHype. obviously Nonstop is the next #1 on Urban radio, but I hope it can hold on long enough to also reach #1 on Rhythmic radio. Do you know how many #1's that'd give Drake on each format this year? Rhythmic: God's Plan - 6 weeks #1 Nice for What - 6 weeks #1 In My Feelings - 4 weeks #1 Urban: God's Plan - 9 weeks #1 Look Alive - 3 weeks #1 Nice for What - 9 weeks #1 In My Feelings - 2 weeks #1 Yes Indeed - 3 weeks #1 |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2018 12:32:05 GMT -5
October 15, 198801 02 Red Red Wine - UB40 (1st and only week at #1)02 01 Love Bites - Def Leppard 03 06 Groovy Kind Of Love - Phil Collins 04 04 Don't Be Cruel - Cheap Trick 05 09 What's On Your Mind (Pure Energy) - Information Society 06 03 Don't Worry, Be Happy - Bobby McFerrin 07 13 Don't You Know What The Night Can Do? - Steve Winwood 08 11 Don't Be Cruel - Bobby Brown 09 20 Wild, Wild West - The Escape Club 10 08 I Hate Myself For Loving You - Joan Jett & The Blackhearts I used to write the top 10 on a dry erase board in my room while listening to the countdown on Sundays. I specifically remember this week because of UB40 going to #1. It was a nail biter for me. And the three "Don't" songs in a row, with 4 total. I also remember this timeframe well because Christmas of 1988 I got my first Tandy 1000 computer - so I started typing the entire top 40 and printing it out on my dot matrix printer instead. BALLER.‾\_(ツ)_/‾ I wish I had kept some of those relics. |
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