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Post by nick64 on Nov 25, 2018 15:26:47 GMT -5
Red appears in both 2012 and 2013
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Post by 94sidekick on Nov 26, 2018 21:22:43 GMT -5
Can you re-upload the image for 2011?
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Post by rockgolf on Nov 27, 2018 9:46:52 GMT -5
Red appears in both 2012 and 2013
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Post by 94sidekick on Nov 27, 2018 10:35:20 GMT -5
Also, I noticed If I Die Young being in the Top 200 for 2010 despite it not actually peaking in popularity until 2011.
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Post by rockgolf on Nov 27, 2018 10:56:06 GMT -5
Also, I noticed If I Die Young being in the Top 200 for 2010 despite it not actually peaking in popularity until 2011.
Gonna spend a lotta time on the ol' spreadsheets tonight. |
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Post by 94sidekick on Nov 27, 2018 13:35:44 GMT -5
Should I also mention Cruise being on both the 2012 and 2013 lists? Because while there were two different chart runs, one for the original and one the remix, Billboard consolidated both into one chart run clocking in at a total of 54 weeks.
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Post by 94sidekick on Nov 27, 2018 15:14:35 GMT -5
Also, I noticed both In the Night by The Weeknd and Jumpman by Drake & Future on the 2015 list despite them both peaking in popularity in January of 2016.
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Post by rockgolf on Nov 27, 2018 15:25:22 GMT -5
Should I also mention Cruise being on both the 2012 and 2013 lists? Because while there were two different chart runs, one for the original and one the remix, Billboard consolidated both into one chart run clocking in at a total of 54 weeks. |
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Post by rockgolf on Nov 27, 2018 19:03:52 GMT -5
Also, I noticed both In the Night by The Weeknd and Jumpman by Drake & Future on the 2015 list despite them both peaking in popularity in January of 2016. I base the year on the first occurrence of the highest chart positions. Jumpman peaked at #12 around Nov 2015 so it's a 2015 track. It then reclimbed to that point in 2016. (But I did have the wrong total, as I missed a week, which I'm correcting.)
In The Night peaked at #20 on the Dec 26 chart so just squeezes in.
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Post by rockgolf on Nov 27, 2018 19:50:09 GMT -5
It took some figuring out how best to handle songs that charted in two separate runs in different years (like Cruise, Red, If I Die Young, and at least one other).
I finally decided to go via my All-time Hits route. The way that works is songs that when songs have charted in different years (like The Twist or most recently, Bohemian Rhapsody or All I Want For Christmas) the points from each year are weighted separately. As an example, the top ten songs of 2017 scored a total of 78138 points, a record maximum. The top ten of 1965 only score a total of 26,319. The average top ten, since 1958 (the year the Hot 100 was introduced) is 46,516 points. So every song's score from 2016 is multiplied by 46516/78138 (or 0.595), and every song from 1965 is multiplied by 46516/26319 (or 1.767) to try to achieve chart parity.
Is it perfect? No, but it gets me remarkably close to the Billboard all-time listings.
So the "Total Score" is the sum of each year's adjusted run. For most songs, they only chart once, but on those recharting hits, you're seeing the total of both years. I'm completed thru 2013 and I'll be adjusting the rest going forward, probably tonight.
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Post by 94sidekick on Nov 27, 2018 21:37:30 GMT -5
Also, I noticed both In the Night by The Weeknd and Jumpman by Drake & Future on the 2015 list despite them both peaking in popularity in January of 2016. I base the year on the first occurrence of the highest chart positions. Jumpman peaked at #12 around Nov 2015 so it's a 2015 track. It then reclimbed to that point in 2016. (But I did have the wrong total, as I missed a week, which I'm correcting.)
In The Night peaked at #20 on the Dec 26 chart so just squeezes in.
I did a little bit more research and it turns out you were correct about Jumpman. However, in regards to In the Night, it peaked at #12 on the week of January 2, 2016, at least based on the information I used: musicchartsarchive.com/singles/the-weeknd/in-the-night |
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Post by 94sidekick on Nov 28, 2018 10:27:50 GMT -5
One final correction I just noticed is that Nasty Freestyle peaked in popularity May of 2015. Also, Kick the Dust Up should probably also be in the 2015 ratings.
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Post by rockgolf on Nov 28, 2018 10:47:00 GMT -5
I base the year on the first occurrence of the highest chart positions. Jumpman peaked at #12 around Nov 2015 so it's a 2015 track. It then reclimbed to that point in 2016. (But I did have the wrong total, as I missed a week, which I'm correcting.)
In The Night peaked at #20 on the Dec 26 chart so just squeezes in.
I did a little bit more research and it turns out you were correct about Jumpman. However, in regards to In the Night, it peaked at #12 on the week of January 2, 2016, at least based on the information I used: musicchartsarchive.com/singles/the-weeknd/in-the-night |
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Post by 94sidekick on Nov 28, 2018 16:47:40 GMT -5
Also, I think Nasty Freestyle by T-Wayne is supposed to be on 2015's list instead of 2016's and so was Kick the Dust Up by Luke Bryan (which didn't appear on any list yet).
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Post by nick64 on Nov 28, 2018 19:19:02 GMT -5
I would check “Throw Sum Mo”’s run in 2015, it seems way too low
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Post by rockgolf on Nov 28, 2018 19:29:39 GMT -5
I would check “Throw Sum Mo”’s run in 2015, it seems way too low Wow! I missed over half its run! It's actually closer to #90 for the year than #190. Will fix soon. |
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Post by 94sidekick on Nov 28, 2018 21:08:21 GMT -5
I would check “Throw Sum Mo”’s run in 2015, it seems way too low Wow! I missed over half its run! It's actually closer to #90 for the year than #190. Will fix soon. When you fix 2015, can you move Nasty Freestyle from 2016 to 2015 as it peaked in popularity in 2015. And can you also add Kick the Dust Up somewhere in the 2015 list? |
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Post by rockgolf on Nov 29, 2018 14:06:05 GMT -5
Yup! Will do. Thanks again for all your due diligence.
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Post by livelightning on Nov 29, 2018 19:59:46 GMT -5
You spelled complete wrong.
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Post by rockgolf on Nov 29, 2018 20:55:43 GMT -5
You spelled complete wrong. Nope. Almost all dictionaries accept it as an archaic alternate spelling. |
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Post by rockgolf on Dec 1, 2018 7:53:05 GMT -5
Thanks to all, especially nick64 and 94sidekick for proofreading the results from the 2010s. Now that those are out of the way, as Casey used to say, let's get back to the countdown!
Receding further into history here's the
Top 200 songs of 2009 (complete chart runs).
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Post by fhas on Dec 1, 2018 10:01:48 GMT -5
Thanks to all, especially nick64 and 94sidekick for proofreading the results from the 2010s. Now that those are out of the way, as Casey used to say, let's get back to the countdown!
Receding further into history here's the
Top 200 songs of 2009 (complete chart runs). What a great top 3. Down is one of the most underestimated hits of all-time because it was caught between decades. |
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Post by rockgolf on Dec 1, 2018 11:39:18 GMT -5
Top 200 songs of 2008 (complete chart runs).
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Post by rockgolf on Dec 1, 2018 13:51:32 GMT -5
Last one for today
Top 200 of 2007 (Complete chart runs)
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Post by 94sidekick on Dec 1, 2018 21:01:25 GMT -5
One more I thing I noticed regarding 2016. You forgot to include Close by Nick Jonas ft. Tove Lo.
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Post by rockgolf on Dec 3, 2018 9:02:53 GMT -5
In meantime (or in the distant past, not sure about this timey-wimey stuffl)
The Top 200 songs of 2006 (complete chart runs)
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Post by propanda on Dec 3, 2018 17:01:52 GMT -5
It's kinda insane how if this YE prediction thing was around a decade ago, there could've been chart nerds complaining about weird al getting caught between years
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Post by Tea-why on Dec 3, 2018 18:19:02 GMT -5
These are great! Thanks for doing these. I love Fred Bronson's 'Hottest Hot 100" book and always wondered what more recent years would have looked like.
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Post by nick64 on Dec 4, 2018 3:41:31 GMT -5
Lol at the 2009 Top 9 being entirely Black Eyed Peas, Lady Gaga, Taylor Swift, and Jays
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Post by rockgolf on Dec 4, 2018 9:05:33 GMT -5
propanda : Trivia note on Weird Al. He's the act that taken the longest time from his first chart appearance (Ricky, #63, 1983) to his first top 10 (White and Nerdy, #9, 2006). 23 years! I don't know who is even close to that! Ike & Tina Turner took eleven years from A Fool In Love (#27, 1960) to Proud Mary (#4, 1971). Other than that, I can't think of an act that went over a decade. Meanwhile, back on topic: The Top 200 songs of 2005 (Complete chart runs)
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