Billboard Hot 100: 10/20/18

[Enigma.]

We might have a Drake free top ten...It pretty much depends on the Apple Music streams. Never Recover is getting approx. 10m from Spotify.

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Kworb's Sales Predictions:

#	TITLE	ARTIST	EST
1	Shallow	Lady Gaga & Bradley Cooper	103k
2	I'll Never Love Again	Lady Gaga	58k
3	Always Remember Us This Way	Lady Gaga	53k
4	Is That Alright	Lady Gaga	39k
5	Without Me	Halsey	34k
6	Maybe It's Time	Bradley Cooper	27k
7	Happier	Marshmello & Bastille	25k
8	Natural	Imagine Dragons	23k
9	Girls Like You	Maroon 5 feat. Cardi B	21k
10	Youngblood	5 Seconds of Summer	18k
	Venom	Eminem	18k

Nice to see some relatively strong sales this week.  Thanks Gaga.

[thegreatdivine]

Oct 9, 2018 9:10:15 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

We might have a Drake free top ten...It pretty much depends on the Apple Music streams. Never Recover is getting approx. 10m from Spotify.

I just saw that Drip Hard is already getting a radio push. Isn't gaining nearly enough in audience impressions to make a dent, but it's looking more and more like it'll be the song off the album that debuts in the top 10. It's performing better in streaming platforms than Never Recover because it was the first single off the album, even though Never Recover isn't that far behind it. If it ends up pulling 12 million streams off Spotify for the tracking week, Never Recover will probably end up pulling like 10.4 million. It'll be close. For the sake of Drake scoring another top 10 records, I hope they both manage to debut in the top 10.

[thegreatdivine]

French Montana just released the video for No Stylist. A little too late if you ask me.

[thegreatdivine]

So, I was thinking about this discussion we've been having on/off for weeks now about the rise of the streaming era and the decline and death of the digital/pure sales era and the differences between streaming and radio as metrics of measuring the weekly popularity of songs on the Hot 100.

I think it's funny that so many pop enthusiasts are now all of a sudden against streaming and think it needs to be somehow regulated even further than it already has this soon into it's rise to prominence. This is all because most pop stars aren't pulling in streaming figures that are sizeable enough to be compared to the figures rappers are pulling in. I remember in the peak of the digital sales era when mostly pop stars moved the most digital/pure sale units in their songs and albums and how pop radio was even more dominant than it is now and how pop stars dominated radio more than stars from any other genre. No one saw any issue with it then. I'm guessing this was because pop music was so pop-ular for so long that everyone just kinda went along with it, but now, with the rise of streaming as the primary method of music consumption, pop enthusiasts have a problem with the methodology in place. It's funny to me. Mind you, the problem isn't even that the only songs that get streamed are rap songs, it's that rap songs are getting streamed way more than pop songs/songs from other genres. I don't believe that the most successful pop stars from a few years ago have now all of a sudden lost their fanbase because loads of these pop stars announce tours and sell them out completely. It's much more costly to purchase tour tickets than it is to stream songs consistently. Pop music isn't generating as many streams as rap music because pop stans have become lazy all of a sudden. I guess it was much easier to buy a song off iTunes and know you were done with it it than to subscribe to a streaming service and play the songs off there instead. That's where the disconnect comes from. When more pop fans start to use streaming services, it'll even itself out. The only other way the disparity between the figures that rap music and pop music pulls on streaming sites will be closed is if the other less popular streaming platforms like Pandora and Google Play Music grow in popularity and I don't see that happening - at least not to the level where it'd matter. I think the recent change Billboard effected on paid-tier and free-tier streams has helped artists from other genres. Since that happened, I've noticed that more and more albums from alternative, rock, country and even gospel genres have creeped back into the Billboard 200 while no songs off said albums made an appearance on Spotify or Apple Music charts.

I don't think pop fans need to worry themselves as much. Streaming still has a lot of room to grow and anything is possible.

[badrobot]

If Gaga gets the whole top 4 of sales -- has that happened before? I'm guessing the Beatles did it, but not sure about more recently (Drake? Taylor?).

[Deleted]

Oct 9, 2018 11:11:50 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

So, I was thinking about this discussion we've been having on/off for weeks now about the rise of the streaming era and the decline and death of the digital/pure sales era and the differences between streaming and radio as metrics of measuring the weekly popularity of songs on the Hot 100.

I think it's funny that so many pop enthusiasts are now all of a sudden against streaming and think it needs to be somehow regulated even further than it already has this soon into it's rise into prominence. This is all because most pop stars aren't pulling in streaming figures that are comparing to the figures rappers are pulling in. I remember in the peak of the digital sales era when mostly pop stars moved the most digital/pure sale units in their songs and videos and how pop radio was even more strong than it is now and how pop stars dominated radio more than stars from any other genre. No one saw the issue with it then. I'm guessing this was because pop music was so pop-ular for so long that everyone just kinda went along with it, but now, with the rise of streaming as the primary method of music consumption, pop enthusiasts have a problem with the methodology in place. It's funny to me. Mind you, the problem isn't even that the only songs that get streamed are rap songs, it's that rap songs are getting streamed way more than pop songs/songs from other genres. I don't believe that the most successful pop stars from a few years ago have now all of a sudden lost their fanbase because loads of these pop stars announce tours and sell them out completely. It's much more costly to purchase your tickets than it is to stream songs consistently. Pop music isn't generating as many streams as rap music because pop stans have become lazy all of a sudden. I guess it was much easier to buy a song off iTunes and know you were done with it that to subscribe to a streaming service and play the songs off there instead. That's where the disconnect comes from. When more pop fans start to use streaming services, it'll even itself out. The only other way the disparity between the figures that rap music and pop music pulls on streaming sites will be closed is if the other less popular streaming platforms like pandora and Google Play Music grow in popularity and I don't see that happening - at least not to the level where it'd matter. I think the recent change Billboard effected on paid-tier and free-tier streams has helped artists from other genres. Since that happened, I've noticed that more and more albums from alternative, rock, country and even gospel genres have creeped back into the Billboard 200 while no songs off said albums made an appearance on Spotify or Apple Music charts.

I don't think pop fans need to worry themselves as much. Streaming still has a lot of room to grow and anything is possible.

My one comment to you would be the way you refer to people as "pop fans", like they're democrats to your republican in this already overly divisive world we live in.  It comes off like we all have a "side", rather than just discussing the charts and expressing feelings - a "side" that also implies pop fans don't like hip hop.  

It's not what you're saying, it's how you're saying it.  It's as if you've chosen to create this imaginary war that doesn't really exist.

[thegreatdivine]

Oct 9, 2018 11:18:05 GMT -5 @mello said:

Oct 9, 2018 11:11:50 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

So, I was thinking about this discussion we've been having on/off for weeks now about the rise of the streaming era and the decline and death of the digital/pure sales era and the differences between streaming and radio as metrics of measuring the weekly popularity of songs on the Hot 100.

I think it's funny that so many pop enthusiasts are now all of a sudden against streaming and think it needs to be somehow regulated even further than it already has this soon into it's rise into prominence. This is all because most pop stars aren't pulling in streaming figures that are comparing to the figures rappers are pulling in. I remember in the peak of the digital sales era when mostly pop stars moved the most digital/pure sale units in their songs and videos and how pop radio was even more strong than it is now and how pop stars dominated radio more than stars from any other genre. No one saw the issue with it then. I'm guessing this was because pop music was so pop-ular for so long that everyone just kinda went along with it, but now, with the rise of streaming as the primary method of music consumption, pop enthusiasts have a problem with the methodology in place. It's funny to me. Mind you, the problem isn't even that the only songs that get streamed are rap songs, it's that rap songs are getting streamed way more than pop songs/songs from other genres. I don't believe that the most successful pop stars from a few years ago have now all of a sudden lost their fanbase because loads of these pop stars announce tours and sell them out completely. It's much more costly to purchase your tickets than it is to stream songs consistently. Pop music isn't generating as many streams as rap music because pop stans have become lazy all of a sudden. I guess it was much easier to buy a song off iTunes and know you were done with it that to subscribe to a streaming service and play the songs off there instead. That's where the disconnect comes from. When more pop fans start to use streaming services, it'll even itself out. The only other way the disparity between the figures that rap music and pop music pulls on streaming sites will be closed is if the other less popular streaming platforms like pandora and Google Play Music grow in popularity and I don't see that happening - at least not to the level where it'd matter. I think the recent change Billboard effected on paid-tier and free-tier streams has helped artists from other genres. Since that happened, I've noticed that more and more albums from alternative, rock, country and even gospel genres have creeped back into the Billboard 200 while no songs off said albums made an appearance on Spotify or Apple Music charts.

I don't think pop fans need to worry themselves as much. Streaming still has a lot of room to grow and anything is possible.

My one comment to you would be the way you refer to people as "pop fans", like they're democrats to your republican in this already overly divisive world we live in.  It comes off like we all have a "side", rather than just discussing the charts and expressing feelings - a "side" that also implies pop fans don't like hip hop.  

It's not what you're saying, it's how you're saying it.  It's as if you've chosen to create this imaginary war that doesn't really exist.

I'm sorry you feel that way, but I'm not trying to cause a divide. Most of the fans of pop music who have a problem with rap music's dominance on the charts have a problem with it because they're huge fans of pop music. I'm also a fan of pop music, I just prefer rap music. Some people like both - it's not a big deal. I'm trying to have a discussion - you're the one seeing a divide. What else am I meant to call the people who are super fans of one particular genre?

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Oct 9, 2018 11:34:55 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Oct 9, 2018 11:18:05 GMT -5 @mello said:

My one comment to you would be the way you refer to people as "pop fans", like they're democrats to your republican in this already overly divisive world we live in.  It comes off like we all have a "side", rather than just discussing the charts and expressing feelings - a "side" that also implies pop fans don't like hip hop.  

It's not what you're saying, it's how you're saying it.  It's as if you've chosen to create this imaginary war that doesn't really exist.

I'm not trying to cause a divide. Most of the fans of pop music who have a problem with rap music's dominance on the charts have a problem with it because they're huge fans of pop music. I'm also a fan of pop music, I just prefer rap music. I'm trying to have a discussion - you're the one seeing a divide. What else am I meant to call the people who are super fans of one particular genre?

That's an assumption, and I think that's where you go wrong with your approach to starting a discussion.

My suggestion is to not generalize or group people together at all.  There's no need to.  Clearly you feel the way you do based on things others have said, so by replying to those people directly, you avoid this kind of generalized A vs B type of thing.

Also, I recommend using the return key, because that paragraph is a beast.

[thegreatdivine]

Oct 9, 2018 11:48:58 GMT -5 @mello said:

Oct 9, 2018 11:34:55 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

I'm not trying to cause a divide. Most of the fans of pop music who have a problem with rap music's dominance on the charts have a problem with it because they're huge fans of pop music. I'm also a fan of pop music, I just prefer rap music. I'm trying to have a discussion - you're the one seeing a divide. What else am I meant to call the people who are super fans of one particular genre?

That's an assumption, and I think that's where you go wrong with your approach to starting a discussion.

My suggestion is to not generalize or group people together at all.  There's no need to.  Clearly you feel the way you do based on things others have said, so by replying to those people directly, you avoid this kind of generalized A vs B type of thing.

Also, I recommend using the return key, because that paragraph is a beast.

So, you quoting me isn't actually to have a discussion about what I brought up, but to correct me for generalising? Okay, I apologize for that. Maybe I did come off that way, but I'm going off what I've seen in this forum, too. A lot of fonts have issues with rap's dominance on the charts and comment everytime on not just how they wish pop music was more represented on the charts, but how much more they prefer pop music to rap music and that's why I used the term "pop fans." You're the one who came in here comparing my post about music and charts to tensions in American politics currently like it's even that serious. ALL I was trying to do was make conversation, but okay.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

It probably won't manage to chart, but I found the throwback video for the current #15 in iTunes:

[lazer]

Oct 9, 2018 11:11:50 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

So, I was thinking about this discussion we've been having on/off for weeks now about the rise of the streaming era and the decline and death of the digital/pure sales era and the differences between streaming and radio as metrics of measuring the weekly popularity of songs on the Hot 100.

I think it's funny that so many pop enthusiasts are now all of a sudden against streaming and think it needs to be somehow regulated even further than it already has this soon into it's rise to prominence. This is all because most pop stars aren't pulling in streaming figures that are sizeable enough to be compared to the figures rappers are pulling in. I remember in the peak of the digital sales era when mostly pop stars moved the most digital/pure sale units in their songs and albums and how pop radio was even more dominant than it is now and how pop stars dominated radio more than stars from any other genre. No one saw any issue with it then. I'm guessing this was because pop music was so pop-ular for so long that everyone just kinda went along with it, but now, with the rise of streaming as the primary method of music consumption, pop enthusiasts have a problem with the methodology in place. It's funny to me. Mind you, the problem isn't even that the only songs that get streamed are rap songs, it's that rap songs are getting streamed way more than pop songs/songs from other genres. I don't believe that the most successful pop stars from a few years ago have now all of a sudden lost their fanbase because loads of these pop stars announce tours and sell them out completely. It's much more costly to purchase tour tickets than it is to stream songs consistently. Pop music isn't generating as many streams as rap music because pop stans have become lazy all of a sudden. I guess it was much easier to buy a song off iTunes and know you were done with it it than to subscribe to a streaming service and play the songs off there instead. That's where the disconnect comes from. When more pop fans start to use streaming services, it'll even itself out. The only other way the disparity between the figures that rap music and pop music pulls on streaming sites will be closed is if the other less popular streaming platforms like Pandora and Google Play Music grow in popularity and I don't see that happening - at least not to the level where it'd matter. I think the recent change Billboard effected on paid-tier and free-tier streams has helped artists from other genres. Since that happened, I've noticed that more and more albums from alternative, rock, country and even gospel genres have creeped back into the Billboard 200 while no songs off said albums made an appearance on Spotify or Apple Music charts.

I don't think pop fans need to worry themselves as much. Streaming still has a lot of room to grow and anything is possible.

I'm a pop fan and I love rap music. My favorite album of 2017 was DAMN. by Kendrick Lamar. Look, I don't agree what the other pop stans hating on rap but with rappers like 6ix9ine, Lil Pump, Lil Xan, Rich The Kid, Kodak Black, and Tay-K taking over the streaming field, I think the anger is somewhat justified. Most of their songs are terribly overproduced or underproduced. You'll probably feel happy when I say this but I prefer a Drake album bomb than at least one song form these rappers I listed. It's a shame when Soundcloud rappers like Ski Mask and Lil Skies are not getting the same treatment like other Soundcloud rappers, at least these two are putting effort and not being terrible people. When people think of 2010s rap in 10 years, they're gonna think of Kendrick Lamar, Drake, Wiz Khalifa, Cardi B, Nicki Minaj, Travis Scott, Big Sean, and maybe Migos. The good stuff will only be remembered while the bad stuff will be mocked and forgotten like Soulja Boy and Bow Wow a decade ago. Streaming is the best way for a song to become popular and I think it'll be a benefit for the pop fans to do the same thing. I'd be more happy if rock fans do it too.

[thegreatdivine]

Oct 9, 2018 12:46:01 GMT -5 lazer said:

Oct 9, 2018 11:11:50 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

So, I was thinking about this discussion we've been having on/off for weeks now about the rise of the streaming era and the decline and death of the digital/pure sales era and the differences between streaming and radio as metrics of measuring the weekly popularity of songs on the Hot 100.

I think it's funny that so many pop enthusiasts are now all of a sudden against streaming and think it needs to be somehow regulated even further than it already has this soon into it's rise to prominence. This is all because most pop stars aren't pulling in streaming figures that are sizeable enough to be compared to the figures rappers are pulling in. I remember in the peak of the digital sales era when mostly pop stars moved the most digital/pure sale units in their songs and albums and how pop radio was even more dominant than it is now and how pop stars dominated radio more than stars from any other genre. No one saw any issue with it then. I'm guessing this was because pop music was so pop-ular for so long that everyone just kinda went along with it, but now, with the rise of streaming as the primary method of music consumption, pop enthusiasts have a problem with the methodology in place. It's funny to me. Mind you, the problem isn't even that the only songs that get streamed are rap songs, it's that rap songs are getting streamed way more than pop songs/songs from other genres. I don't believe that the most successful pop stars from a few years ago have now all of a sudden lost their fanbase because loads of these pop stars announce tours and sell them out completely. It's much more costly to purchase tour tickets than it is to stream songs consistently. Pop music isn't generating as many streams as rap music because pop stans have become lazy all of a sudden. I guess it was much easier to buy a song off iTunes and know you were done with it it than to subscribe to a streaming service and play the songs off there instead. That's where the disconnect comes from. When more pop fans start to use streaming services, it'll even itself out. The only other way the disparity between the figures that rap music and pop music pulls on streaming sites will be closed is if the other less popular streaming platforms like Pandora and Google Play Music grow in popularity and I don't see that happening - at least not to the level where it'd matter. I think the recent change Billboard effected on paid-tier and free-tier streams has helped artists from other genres. Since that happened, I've noticed that more and more albums from alternative, rock, country and even gospel genres have creeped back into the Billboard 200 while no songs off said albums made an appearance on Spotify or Apple Music charts.

I don't think pop fans need to worry themselves as much. Streaming still has a lot of room to grow and anything is possible.

I'm a pop fan and I love rap music. My favorite album of 2017 was DAMN. by Kendrick Lamar. Look, I don't agree what the other pop stans hating on rap but with rappers like 6ix9ine, Lil Pump, Lil Xan, Rich The Kid, Kodak Black, and Tay-K taking over the streaming field, I think the anger is somewhat justified. Most of their songs are terribly overproduced or underproduced. You'll probably feel happy when I say this but I prefer a Drake album bomb than at least one song form these rappers I listed. It's a shame when Soundcloud rappers like Ski Mask and Lil Skies are not getting the same treatment like other Soundcloud rappers, at least these two are putting effort and not being terrible people. When people think of 2010s rap in 10 years, they're gonna think of Kendrick Lamar, Drake, Wiz Khalifa, Cardi B, Nicki Minaj, Travis Scott, Big Sean, and maybe Migos. The good stuff will only be remembered while the bad stuff will be mocked and forgotten like Soulja Boy and Bow Wow a decade ago. Streaming is the best way for a song to become popular and I think it'll be a benefit for the pop fans to do the same thing. I'd be more happy if rock fans do it too.

I agree with you. I think there are really a lot of terrible new rappers coming out these days who are making really terrible music and getting away with it because streaming currently favours rap in such a huge way. Also, rap music has become really repetitive. Migos quite literally made a 20-track album with songs that sound exactly the same. I love Drake, but he's made some repetitive music this year - most recently are his collabs with Tay Keith, the Memphis-born producer he's collabed with a lot this year. If rap continues being this dominant under streaming, I can see it's quality continue to go down the gutter. Genres that dominate for a particular period of time always go through this, I've come to realise. Remember in the early 2010's when we got icnonc pop song after iconic pop song and then pop songs got really stale and repetitive? Same thing happened with electronic and dance music.

I honestly hope more fans of other genres of music start to sign up to these streaming services and use them. It'll help the artists of said genres garner more streams and then it'll be more evened out with the streams rap artists are currently generating.

[renaboss]

Well,

I LOVE 80S BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lazer]

Oct 9, 2018 13:11:28 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Oct 9, 2018 12:46:01 GMT -5 lazer said:

I'm a pop fan and I love rap music. My favorite album of 2017 was DAMN. by Kendrick Lamar. Look, I don't agree what the other pop stans hating on rap but with rappers like 6ix9ine, Lil Pump, Lil Xan, Rich The Kid, Kodak Black, and Tay-K taking over the streaming field, I think the anger is somewhat justified. Most of their songs are terribly overproduced or underproduced. You'll probably feel happy when I say this but I prefer a Drake album bomb than at least one song form these rappers I listed. It's a shame when Soundcloud rappers like Ski Mask and Lil Skies are not getting the same treatment like other Soundcloud rappers, at least these two are putting effort and not being terrible people. When people think of 2010s rap in 10 years, they're gonna think of Kendrick Lamar, Drake, Wiz Khalifa, Cardi B, Nicki Minaj, Travis Scott, Big Sean, and maybe Migos. The good stuff will only be remembered while the bad stuff will be mocked and forgotten like Soulja Boy and Bow Wow a decade ago. Streaming is the best way for a song to become popular and I think it'll be a benefit for the pop fans to do the same thing. I'd be more happy if rock fans do it too.

I agree with you. I think there are really a lot of terrible new rappers coming out these days who are making really terrible music and getting away with it because streaming currently favours rap in such a huge way. Also, rap music has become really repetitive. Migos quite literally made a 20-track album with songs that sound exactly the same. I love Drake, but he's made some repetitive music this year - most recently are his collabs with Tay Keith, the Memphis-born producer he's collabed with a lot this year. If rap continues being this dominant under streaming, I can see it's quality continue to go down the gutter. Genres that dominate for a particular period of time always go through this, I've come to realise. Remember in the early 2010's when we got icnonc pop song after iconic pop song and then pop songs got really stale and repetitive? Same thing happened with electronic and dance music.

I honestly hope more fans of other genres of music start to sign up to these streaming services and use them. It'll help the artists of said genres garner more streams and then it'll be more evened out with the streams rap artists are currently generating.

My biggest problem with with these new rappers is THEY AREN'T EVEN TRYING. The rappers I listed have access to all the expensive production sets but yet they chose to do the least effort they possibly can just so they can rush it out. Their production choices are either loud and distorted or minimal and barebones. Many new rappers themselves sound either loudly obnoxious or sound like they just got out of bed early in the morning. They refuse to evolve and recycling the same lyrics and themes they spit in other of their 100000 songs that other rappers talked about in their 100000 songs. But that can be said to other popular genres. 

I like your point about genres becoming stale. Whenever a certain genre blows up, it's interesting to hear but after years of domination, it gets stale, boring, and annoying. Like the Disco Demolition in 1979, it occurred because Disco was overplayed to death and artists outside of the genre have been incorporating disco elements to their songs. A lot of anti-Disco people destroyed Disco records while imo is a bit of an overreaction. Same thing today, a lot of pop artists nowadays are incorporating trap elements into their songs (Ex. Sorry Not Sorry, Meant To Be) because the trend is red hot. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if their was a backlash to all this next year or two.

[kcdawg13]

After what Taylor posted on Instagram and everything that's happening in politics right now, I think IDSB has a great shot at being a huge hit, even bigger than Delicate.

[jayhawk1117]

Taylor is a marketing monster so I'm almost positive the performance will have some political undertones

[korbel16]

[jayhawk1117]

Yaaaaaaaasssss Gaga

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^Hopefully, a Drake-free top 10 will happen next week, Sicko Mode's uncredited contribution notwithstanding. Also, Mona Lisa's drop would be a larger positional one than Today Was a Fairytale's drop from #2 to #22.

[Deleted]

It'd be cool to see Gaga get a/some radio hit(s) from this project, but I'm skeptical because, well, radio.

Loving the top 10 placement, and top 20 on spotify!

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Regarding pop vs. streaming discussion (I didn't realize that was a battle. I'm REALLY out of touch): I think the more streaming the better if Billboard is aiming to determine the most popular songs of the week. But it gets challenging when they try to create a comparison between streaming vs. radio vs. sales. Each of those methods of music consumption have different target demographics so how they determine how each compare to the other is probably where most disagree. I personally think radio *should* have a place in the overall chart because people do still listen to radio and while it's not as active or purposeful as those who stream, people are still hearing the songs people say (with that said, I also think tv ads and other places where songs are predominately used should count too if people are hearing them but I digress). The issue comes with figuring out how much impact radio should have. The reason why I'm pro-streaming is because, for the most part, people who stream are choosing the songs they want to hear. For the first time ever, we're getting realtime data of what people are listening to over time. Singles sales were a good measure too except sales count only songs at their point of purchase and nothing else. Streaming solves that. The issue with streaming now is that it targets to younger audiences so younger audiences determine the lifespan of a song whereas older audiences may buy digital singles and those only get counted once. My issue further, that I've been harping on again and again, is that album sales don't contribute to the singles chart the way album streams do. I fully understand why but until album sales are completely obsolete, or until Billboard figures out a way to incorporate them into the singles chart, the Hot 100 will remain terribly lopsided and unreliable as far as determining popularity and consumption. It's closer than it has ever been, but at the risk of increasing accuracy through one measure (streaming), it is highlighting how incomplete the other measures (mainly sales) really are.

Anyone who makes this a rap vs. pop discussion only makes themselves look like a fool.

[CF15]

Now that some songs went recurrent, and the Lil' Wayne tracks are going to fall, is there any hope at all for "Jackie Chan" to still reach the top 50?

[velaxti]

Oct 9, 2018 14:03:09 GMT -5 kcdawg13 said:

After what Taylor posted on Instagram and everything that's happening in politics right now, I think IDSB has a great shot at being a huge hit, even bigger than Delicate.

I'm not sure if it will make much of a difference. I know she's getting an absolutely astronomical amount of praise in the mainstream media, but that's because the mainstream media support the Democrats, so they are delighted that one of the biggest pop stars who they've feared for the past decade might be a Republican has finally come out and said she's not.

With Kanye West I was wondering if he would see a big decline/boost in his chart performance but it didn't seem to make much difference, so I don't think it will make much difference for Taylor either. And we do have borderline-pedophiles and the likes doing well in the charts, I think 90% of an artist's charts success is down to the typical things (the music itself, promotion/radio, etc.). Maybe her next single will be a hit, but that might have happened anyway like with Delicate. Maybe if it is an extreme rebound in success and it goes to #1 or #2 I might conclude that it has boosted her.

However, another thing to point out is that Nicki Minaj, Ciara, Ariana Grande, Iggy Azalea, Demi Lovato, Justin Timberlake, Katy Perry, Kelly Clarkson and a plethora of other pop stars support the Democrats (in fact, I think every single one of them does except for Kanye and maybe a few country acts), and I don't see them flying to #1 all the time.

[KeepDeanWeird]

Now I wish ML had hit #1, it could've had biggest drop from #1.

[DJ General]

Oct 9, 2018 15:15:00 GMT -5 Baby Yoda Hot100Fan said:

^Hopefully, a Drake-free top 10 will happen next week, Sicko Mode's uncredited contribution notwithstanding. Also, Mona Lisa's drop would be a larger positional one than Today Was a Fairytale's drop from #2 to #22.

His next single is rapidly rising and just went for adds today. It might get a digital push as well... I doubt we will see a drake free top 10 at any point in 2018. And I'm still counting Sicko Mode since Drake is on most of the song regardless of a"official"credit or not, he is still a HUGE reason the song is seeing such success. No one can deny that.

[𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿]

Oct 9, 2018 14:56:40 GMT -5 korbel16 said:

YASSSSSSS High Hopes coming for Top 40!   Can Beautiful do it too, please? 

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

Oct 9, 2018 18:10:03 GMT -5 DJ General said:

Oct 9, 2018 15:15:00 GMT -5 Baby Yoda Hot100Fan said:

^Hopefully, a Drake-free top 10 will happen next week, Sicko Mode's uncredited contribution notwithstanding. Also, Mona Lisa's drop would be a larger positional one than Today Was a Fairytale's drop from #2 to #22.

His next single is rapidly rising and just went for adds today. It might get a digital push as well... I doubt we will see a drake free top 10 at any point in 2018. And I'm still counting Sicko Mode since Drake is on most of the song regardless of a"official"credit or not, he is still a HUGE reason the song is seeing such success. No one can deny that.

Next week will be a Drake-free top 10 PROBABLY. 

[websites]

is it not strange that simon has gly at #1 still, everyone in predictions thread has ld at #1

[𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿]

Oct 9, 2018 19:05:54 GMT -5 websites said:

is it not strange that simon has gly at #1 still, everyone in predictions thread has ld at #1

Maybe by the Final Predictions, Simon may have Lucid Dreams at #1.