carriekins
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Post by carriekins on Mar 7, 2019 8:48:36 GMT -5
People: I hate FGL and their pop music. I wish they would make actual country songs and act county! Also people: Haha, they're making country songs and acting country. No one is believing it! LOLLOLLOLOLOz Well, there is much to be said for being believable, at least for me. No, I have not liked FGL since they started putting out music. For me it wasn't a pop vs country thing. It was just a crappy music thing. And while I've liked a couple of their songs in recent years, I side-eyed this entire project because it felt so inauthentic to me. Their fanbase clearly wants them to go back to what they were doing, and they (FGL) clearly didn't pick up any new fans with this shift to a more country sound. But it's also quite possible that their fanbase has moved on, too - and that this really is a more realistic view into their future in country music.
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Post by dm2081 on Mar 7, 2019 9:36:08 GMT -5
Did people even listen to the new album? Sonically, it’s not much different than the previous one. I never took the album title to be literal, just more of a fun tongue in cheek thing. The new album has a few songs with their typical country/rock production output, and also has the usual heavy leaning pop songs they dabble with time to time. It’s really the same formula as last time. So the idea that FGL are being rejected now for “trying to go country” is just not right. As discussed previously, it’s quite rare for a major superstar act to put out an album when the current single isn’t even in the top 20 at Airplay. And while their current single, while struggling at radio right now, is still selling and streaming pretty well. It’s not like there’s zero interest in these guys all of the sudden. Again, other than Dan + Shay or Luke Combs, I can think of any artist who had a better 2018 singles wise than FGL did with the success of “Meant To Be” and “Simple”. I wouldn’t get your hopes up to those writing these guys off already. Looking at Pulse though, it’s apparent these guys have become the Nickelback or Imagine Dragons of the country world.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Mar 7, 2019 10:25:21 GMT -5
Beautiful. They’re on the downswing. Now we just need to get rid of 3D(Davis, Dickerson, Dylan) and we’re set. This isn't really directed at you, so I am sorry in advance, but I have a question (and this is asked without any snark or ill-intentions) for all the people who care so much about country radio. My question is, "Why do you care so much?" I defend a lot of comments about artists and songs that are not considered country. And that are played on country radio. The irony is, I really don't like much of country radio these days. I don't like the current trends, I can't stand (hate is actually the better word) the sexism and misogyny, and I miss the artists I loved who no longer get played. But I also understand that radio is not the end all be all. In fact, it's pretty far down the list now days. I would understand the complaints and bitching more if this was 1992. And the only way to hear the type of music you want is to listen to the radio or shell out $15 for one single CD or cassette. But this isn't. We can listen to music anywhere at anytime. I can listen to the exact songs I want to hear. And because of this, artists I love (Reba and George Strait) are still making brand new music. Yeah, they might not get played a lot on radio, but I can hear brand new music from them. And the fact that we have people like Kacey Musgraves winning huge awards and outselling tons of artists, all the while she has zero radio play shows radio is not needed. And even said up thread, more "country" sounding artists are outselling other more "pop" artists. So, again, radio is not needed. Now, I get why people who follow the charts and such care about country radio. That is their passion or their hobby. But for others, who only want to hear the music they like, why is it such a big deal? You can hear the music you want at anytime. You don't have to listen to FGL, or "3D," as said in this post. We have that power and control. It amazes me that in 2019, I hear people complaining what is on the radio. Turn on Spotify. Buy a $9.99 Apple subscription (which is less than buying one CD a month). But stop giving a damn what stupid country radio plays. This is all my opinion and I am sure you have legit reasons why you care what is played on your current radio stations, but for me, I quit caring and now every song I hear either in the car or on my phone is music I want to hear. If this post wasn't so long, I would put it as my signature. Per usual, you and I are on the exact same page about all of this. As a chart follower, sure I'd love it if my least favorite artists never had any radio success, but when Justin Moore scores another top 20 single, it doesn't actually affect me much because I never have to hear the song if I don't want to since I haven't chosen to listen to the radio over streaming/playing music from my phone or iPod in 15 years. In 2019, I'm actually pretty surprised at how many people still listen to the radio instead of streaming and I don't understand why any music fanatics who are tech savvy (which I think it's safe to assume everyone that posts here probably check those two boxes) would choose to listen to the radio today over just listening to their own playlists, especially if you don't like 50% or more of what's on the radio... I guess as someone who doesn't ever listen to the radio and enjoys every genre of music, this "country" vs "non-country" (aka "pop" to some) never-ending discussion just doesn't make any sense to me. Like you said, if it were the 90's when all you had was the radio, sure, I'd be mad having to listen to Dustin Lynch over Kacey Musgraves on the radio, but in 2019, I just hit play on Golden Hour on my phone and I just pretend Dustin doesn't exist unless I'm looking at a country chart. It's not that hard to just ignore the artists or songs you don't like or feel like they don't embody elements of a "true country song". I get that Country Radio can still help songs become more successful, but it's not the end-all-be-all for success so these never-ending debates just frustrate me to no end. Honestly, I'd be more than okay to have a genre-split, radio wise at least. Have a scenario kind of like the Christian genre has where there's Christian AC (more traditional sounding Christian songs, lots of worship songs) and Christian HAC (more of the "poppy" songs do well here and songs with heavier rock or rap influences can actually chart here). Many songs chart on both charts, but you're gonna mostly separate the more poppy stuff away from those who don't like that and create a "new" genre for those who are more open to multiple different sounds. It's all just Christian music still, but it satisfies the desires of the listeners of the very diverse genre, which country is already at as well. SiriusXM is already doing this and I think terrestrial radio could easily make some switches too. I know it wouldn't be that easy, but honestly it may be a good way to make both types of consumers happier because we know that just like those who hate modern country, there are people who hate traditional country too.
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Post by phil1996 on Mar 7, 2019 16:10:21 GMT -5
zaclord 🌈 So let’s say your favorite current artist was completely ignored by radio. Would you be happy about it? Because instead of having 7-8 albums, that artist would have like 3-4.
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Post by matty005 on Mar 7, 2019 18:09:10 GMT -5
zaclord 🌈 So let’s say your favorite current artist was completely ignored by radio. Would you be happy about it? Because instead of having 7-8 albums, that artist would have like 3-4. Well, jumping in here, but that will always be the case no matter what radio plays depending on who your "favs" are. In the 90s, which was my favorite radio era, I had plenty of people I loved on radio and plenty of people who struggled. But back then, usually after two albums if you didn't make it big, you were done. At least now days, artists are album to make a living and keep recording music even if they never make it big.
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Post by phil1996 on Mar 7, 2019 19:30:42 GMT -5
zaclord 🌈 So let’s say your favorite current artist was completely ignored by radio. Would you be happy about it? Because instead of having 7-8 albums, that artist would have like 3-4. Well, jumping in here, but that will always be the case no matter what radio plays depending on who your "favs" are. In the 90s, which was my favorite radio era, I had plenty of people I loved on radio and plenty of people who struggled. But back then, usually after two albums if you didn't make it big, you were done. At least now days, artists are album to make a living and keep recording music even if they never make it big. Correct. Which was the root of my original post. Simply frustration about generic vanilla fluff taking the place of say, Charlie Worsham, or Cam. I’m still bitter about Kip Moore’s 2nd album getting scrapped because “Young Love” was ‘too out of left field’.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Mar 7, 2019 20:03:30 GMT -5
zaclord 🌈 So let’s say your favorite current artist was completely ignored by radio. Would you be happy about it? Because instead of having 7-8 albums, that artist would have like 3-4. Well my favorite artist just won Album of the Year at the Grammy's without even pushing a single to radio or having a top 30 hit since 2013, so you're not helping make your point with that question 😂 But I understand that Kacey is the extreme example of being successful without radio, but not every artist has to get to Kacey's level to have a "successful" career without or with minimal radio support. Now to your point, Kacey would be much bigger than she currently is if radio played her, but radio isn't the only way to gain fans and exposure in today's age. Sure some artists would probably put out fewer albums without careers on radio, but like matty said, today artists are able to still put out music without the backing of a big label or radio support. So they may not be the "country music superstar" we'd love for them to be, but they're still making music in a lot of cases despite not being played on the radio and sometimes without that pressure from the label, the artists could even put out MORE albums because they wouldn't get scrapped just for an underperforming single that was "too out of left field" like what happened to Kip.
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Post by bamafan2102 on Mar 7, 2019 23:10:58 GMT -5
I have always been on the fence with FGL. So.e good songs, some bad songs. I had a business trip last week which was an 8 hour drive by myself so I listened to the album front to back a couple of times and I actually really like it. The only true stinker is Swerve. I agree with those that say this isn't really that much different than their past albums.
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Post by Kat5Kind on Mar 8, 2019 0:30:41 GMT -5
Who gives a f**k what genre ANYONE is? I’m starting to not care 😂 in a world where Spotify/streaming exists, listen to your favorites and ignore those who you don’t like. It’s not that hard. (If you refuse to stream, support your faves by buying their CD) also, most of this album is a bop, but nothing tops Grow Old
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Post by CoJoFan on Mar 28, 2019 9:05:03 GMT -5
“Can’t Hide Red” got 24 spins yesterday. Anyone know why?
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Post by bamaefule on Mar 28, 2019 9:47:37 GMT -5
“Can’t Hide Red” got 24 spins yesterday. Anyone know why? Performing it at the ACM’s with Aldean. The title track and “People Are Different” are the obvious single choices imo
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Post by CoJoFan on Mar 28, 2019 11:15:25 GMT -5
“Can’t Hide Red” got 24 spins yesterday. Anyone know why? Performing it at the ACM’s with Aldean. The title track and “People Are Different” are the obvious single choices imo As much as I like “People Are Different”, I think they’ll go with “Can’t Hide Red” as an uptempo song would make the most sense as the next single since they’ve already released 2 slower singles.
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Post by matty005 on Mar 28, 2019 11:21:32 GMT -5
Performing it at the ACM’s with Aldean. The title track and “People Are Different” are the obvious single choices imo As much as I like “People Are Different”, I think they’ll go with “Can’t Hide Red” as an uptempo song would make the most sense as the next single since they’ve already released 2 slower singles. Thanks for the info! I don't understand the term for the song?
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Post by country11 on Mar 28, 2019 12:04:37 GMT -5
Hopefully since they're going with "Cant hide red" they'll go with "Y'all boys" next. Those are the kind of songs that made FGL relevant as opposed to their more pop songs.
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Post by CoJoFan on Mar 28, 2019 13:14:20 GMT -5
As much as I like “People Are Different”, I think they’ll go with “Can’t Hide Red” as an uptempo song would make the most sense as the next single since they’ve already released 2 slower singles. Thanks for the info! I don't understand the term for the song? By not understanding the term are you saying the meaning behind the song?
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Post by jimmy's carhartt on Mar 28, 2019 17:53:18 GMT -5
“Can’t Hide Red” got 24 spins yesterday. Anyone know why? Performing it at the ACM’s with Aldean. The title track and “People Are Different” are the obvious single choices imo Not so sure about "People Are Different", but the title track is very obvious.
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Post by dm2081 on Mar 28, 2019 18:57:22 GMT -5
“Can’t Hide Red” would make more sense once “Rearview Town” peaks for Jason. Obviously he’s a big enough star to have multiple songs on the radio, but later would make more sense. Surprised they don’t want to go with “Ya’ll Boys”, because not only does it sounds like the perfect summer song, but it would help expose HARDY as well. “People Are Different” is good but they need a song that will be more appealing to their original fan base IMO, another R&B leaning single could receive some blowback. They should save that one to close out the era.
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Post by raylatch98 on Mar 31, 2019 20:21:58 GMT -5
Honestly this whole era is a mess radio wise. "Simple" was a good choice, but man it burned out with radio fast and "Talk You Out of It" continues to do hardly anything.
This week Florida Georgia Line only gained 32 spins and 560k in audience this week which is downright pitiful. I do think there is a high chance this song will be the lowest peaking Florida Georgia Line song of their career so far.
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Post by Marv on Mar 31, 2019 23:05:08 GMT -5
Easily the worst superstar act at country radio over the past 40+ years.
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Post by cashville on Apr 3, 2019 16:42:23 GMT -5
Honestly this whole era is a mess radio wise. "Simple" was a good choice, but man it burned out with radio fast and "Talk You Out of It" continues to do hardly anything. This week Florida Georgia Line only gained 32 spins and 560k in audience this week which is downright pitiful. I do think there is a high chance this song will be the lowest peaking Florida Georgia Line song of their career so far. After checking out today's report, this one is looking like it might be done.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Apr 3, 2019 17:41:14 GMT -5
Honestly this whole era is a mess radio wise. "Simple" was a good choice, but man it burned out with radio fast and "Talk You Out of It" continues to do hardly anything. This week Florida Georgia Line only gained 32 spins and 560k in audience this week which is downright pitiful. I do think there is a high chance this song will be the lowest peaking Florida Georgia Line song of their career so far. After checking out today's report, this one is looking like it might be done. In today's update it only lost 5 spins and actually gained in audience, so I doubt it. Is the research really poor for this one? It's slow ascent still perplexes me because it doesn't sound polarizing to me and it's not like this one isn't selling well because it is...
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Post by phil1996 on Apr 23, 2019 16:19:17 GMT -5
Radiotraks survey for the next single consists of these 4:
Can’t Say I Ain’t Country, Ya’ll Boys, Blessings, Can’t Hide Red.
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Post by dm2081 on Apr 23, 2019 16:32:03 GMT -5
“Ya’ll Boys” all the way. Guess “Can’t Hide Red” would be second. I don’t even remember what “Blessings” sounds like, so that’s probably not a good sign for that one.
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Post by country11 on Apr 23, 2019 17:12:38 GMT -5
Any of them but "blessings". Good song, but would much rather hear more uptempo. "Y'all boys" or "Cant hide red" please.
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Post by robenglund on Apr 23, 2019 21:40:19 GMT -5
I would think it would be “Can’t Hide Red” after the performance at the ACMs. I’m fine with any of the uptempo choices since this current single is quite boring IMHO and they definitely need something to re-spark this album era. Plus it would make sense to have an uptempo single for their summer tour. All choices are definitely some of the better tracks on the album though so at least there’s that.
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Post by countryisking on Apr 24, 2019 5:49:15 GMT -5
If they are sending out the survey I'd guess we get another month of this one, if that. I figured it had to be top 10 by now and was shocked when I looked on MB and only saw it at 17 (still).
This song just isn't any good and I'm glad radio has essentially stopped giving big artists free passes to #1 when they release songs that suck (the only ones they still do it with are Luke Bryan and Jason Aldean)...
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Post by collinkottke on Apr 24, 2019 13:50:35 GMT -5
"Can't Hide Red" seems like the next single to me. The ACM performance for one. Plus, most of the potential chart run for "Can't Hide Red" would be after "Rearview Town" peaks for Aldean, so it'd be a nice placeholder for him while he works on his next album. All in all, I'd be quite satisfied with either "Can't Hide Red" or "Ya'll Boys" and I hope both get the single treatment before FGL moves on from this current project.
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Post by CoJoFan on Apr 24, 2019 14:08:04 GMT -5
I have to agree I’ll take any of the songs in the survey but “Blessings” for the next single. As much as I like the title track I think the better choices would be either “Y’all Boys” or “Can’t Hide Red”. The latter of the two would be my choice though.
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Post by country11 on Apr 24, 2019 16:05:10 GMT -5
All in all, I'd be quite satisfied with either "Can't Hide Red" or "Ya'll Boys" and I hope both get the single treatment before FGL moves on from this current project. Both would be great singles for fgl. I also hope they both end up being singles.
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Post by Naos on Apr 29, 2019 19:43:35 GMT -5
Hot 100: #78 (+15) Country Airplay: #18 (+3)
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