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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Dec 3, 2018 17:08:53 GMT -5
From above Take A Bow - Babyface I'll Be There - Torey Lanez I'll Be Your Everything - New Kids On The Block of course there are others Does Babyface have solo lines on "Take A Bow" that I'm forgetting? I thought he just did backing vocals. He also produced and co-wrote it too if I’m not mistaken. |
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Post by renfield75 on Dec 3, 2018 17:14:14 GMT -5
Dionne & "Friends" on "That's What Friends Are For"...Elton, Stevie, and Gladys should've gotten credit for another number one for that.
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Post by reputainbow on Dec 3, 2018 17:20:38 GMT -5
at the end of the day, travis did what he had to do to get to #1. congrats to him
"all i want for christmas is you" is definitely reaching the top 10 before christmas <3 it's what mariah deserves
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2018 17:21:42 GMT -5
Dionne & "Friends" on "That's What Friends Are For"...Elton, Stevie, and Gladys should've gotten credit for another number one for that. billboard does count that song to their chart history. Billboard credits Elton John with 9 #1s and Stevie with 10. |
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Post by Choco on Dec 3, 2018 17:35:31 GMT -5
Kinda want AIWFCIY to go #1 this year because it would be a very interesting chart feat.
Sad about TUN dropping but at least it's back there next week.
Kudos to Travis for knowing how to play the chart game. The song is still a massive hit without the chart tactics, but he did what he needed to do for the #1 hit and I can't fault him for that.
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 3, 2018 18:16:27 GMT -5
Does Babyface have solo lines on "Take A Bow" that I'm forgetting? I thought he just did backing vocals. He also produced and co-wrote it too if I’m not mistaken. Sure, but that doesn't usually merit a chart credit (unless it's the producer making an album and having different singers on the song). |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Dec 3, 2018 18:25:47 GMT -5
He also produced and co-wrote it too if I’m not mistaken. Sure, but that doesn't usually merit a chart credit (unless it's the producer making an album and having different singers on the song). If there's anything to be learned in chart music this decade is that what merits chart credit is up to the label and the artists themselves. It wasn't until this decade that producers began receiving credit on their songs, whether they were on other people's hits (We Found Love), or on their own albums featuring other vocalists. There have been a few occasions where musicians (not vocalists) outside of Kenny G. have gotten credit as well. In any case, regardless of how the labels and Billboard lists credit, Babyface was part of that and other songs so it's hard to argue against it being a hit he was on. The same goes with this week's #1 with Drake. Billboard can not count it because that's how they received it, but Drake has another #1. He won't get the plaque or recognition from Billboard but technically speaking, he's on it. |
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Post by kierz7 on Dec 3, 2018 18:26:51 GMT -5
jenglisbe renfield75Can either of you (or anyone for that matter) explain to me why the background vocalist 'Sharlotte Gibson' wasn't credited on Toni Braxton's "He Wasn't Man Enough"? This seemed to be common amongst several songs of Braxton's in the late 90's/early 00's and many R&B songs of that period in general. If you listen to the song itself Gibson is LITERALLY singing the entire pre-chorus and chorus alongside Braxton - she has clear solo lines sung and her voice is at the forefront. If anything, I would say she dominates the most memorable elements of the song. I understand why a record company or producer may not want to credit a background vocalist as a featured act on a lead/premier acts song but in cases like these I was always confused. m.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyqrzhk0KhQ
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Dec 3, 2018 18:28:11 GMT -5
jenglisbe renfield75Can either of you (or anyone for that matter) explain to me why the background vocalist 'Sharlotte Gibson' wasn't credited on Toni Braxton's "He Wasn't Man Enough"? Probably a label decision. |
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Post by kierz7 on Dec 3, 2018 18:30:51 GMT -5
jenglisbe renfield75Can either of you (or anyone for that matter) explain to me why the background vocalist 'Sharlotte Gibson' wasn't credited on Toni Braxton's "He Wasn't Man Enough"? Probably a label decision. I wonder if she got paid a large amount in that case for non-disclosure because she (her voice) is an integral part of the song. The same applies to another Toni Braxton hit, "You're Makin' Me High". Babyface is clearly singing the pre-chorus hook and the main hook and yet didn't credit himself either (although he did write and produce the song). I just find it strange. m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq4ZKMx0AcA |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2018 18:40:31 GMT -5
I don't care what anyone says I'm considering this drake seventh number one
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Post by 𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿 on Dec 3, 2018 18:40:32 GMT -5
Totally surprised with SICKO MODE getting #1 this week, but give the credit where it's due to Travis, he deserves to get that #1.
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Post by livelightning on Dec 3, 2018 18:40:36 GMT -5
Worst #1 in years. Unbelievable trash like this exists. This statement is completely wrong. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 3, 2018 18:40:59 GMT -5
Sure, but that doesn't usually merit a chart credit (unless it's the producer making an album and having different singers on the song). If there's anything to be learned in chart music this decade is that what merits chart credit is up to the label and the artists themselves. It wasn't until this decade that producers began receiving credit on their songs, whether they were on other people's hits (We Found Love), or on their own albums featuring other vocalists. There have been a few occasions where musicians (not vocalists) outside of Kenny G. have gotten credit as well. In any case, regardless of how the labels and Billboard lists credit, Babyface was part of that and other songs so it's hard to argue against it being a hit he was on. The same goes with this week's #1 with Drake. Billboard can not count it because that's how they received it, but Drake has another #1. He won't get the plaque or recognition from Billboard but technically speaking, he's on it. I guess my point being that Babyface would then need to be credited on all kinds of hits, not just "Take A Bow." I feel Mariah's presence on "Everytime I Close My Eyes" more than I do Babyface on "Take A Bow," but I've never felt Mariah really deserved a feature credit on it. |
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Post by livelightning on Dec 3, 2018 18:42:25 GMT -5
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 3, 2018 18:44:02 GMT -5
jenglisbe renfield75Can either of you (or anyone for that matter) explain to me why the background vocalist 'Sharlotte Gibson' wasn't credited on Toni Braxton's "He Wasn't Man Enough"? This seemed to be common amongst several songs of Braxton's in the late 90's/early 00's and many R&B songs of that period in general. If you listen to the song itself Gibson is LITERALLY singing the entire pre-chorus and chorus alongside Braxton - she has clear solo lines sung and her voice is at the forefront. If anything, I would say she dominates the most memorable elements of the song. I understand why a record company or producer may not want to credit a background vocalist as a featured act on a lead/premier acts song but in cases like these I was always confused. m.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyqrzhk0KhQ This is pretty common in music, so not sure what is confusing. The singer on C&C Music Factory's hits was not credited. There is a backing singer (Debra Killings?) who has heavy vocals on some TLC hits but isn't credited. I am sure they get paid a flat fee for their work, and that's it. The label is of course going to credit/feature their actual artist. |
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Post by fhas on Dec 3, 2018 18:44:05 GMT -5
Final Predictions --- TOP 10 --- December 8, 2018
What a difference a week makes. 7 out of the top 10 had bullets last week, while this week, it would only have 2. Not to mention Zeze probably only would get its bullet this week due to the release of the official YT video.
....and next week we'll have huge gains in the top 10 again. TUN's video + Sicko Mode's and Without Me's remixes. |
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Post by Abbaschand on Dec 3, 2018 18:44:41 GMT -5
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Post by Choco on Dec 3, 2018 18:44:49 GMT -5
Worst #1 in years. Unbelievable trash like this exists. This statement is completely wrong. I mean I'm not a huge fan of it, it's very middling for me, but we've had way worse in the last few years ("Panda", "SAD!")... |
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Post by hot100predictions on Dec 3, 2018 19:02:23 GMT -5
This statement is completely wrong. I mean I'm not a huge fan of it, it's very middling for me, but we've had way worse in the last few years ("Panda", "SAD!")... Panda was brutal. |
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Dec 3, 2018 19:06:23 GMT -5
jenglisbe renfield75Can either of you (or anyone for that matter) explain to me why the background vocalist 'Sharlotte Gibson' wasn't credited on Toni Braxton's "He Wasn't Man Enough"? This seemed to be common amongst several songs of Braxton's in the late 90's/early 00's and many R&B songs of that period in general. If you listen to the song itself Gibson is LITERALLY singing the entire pre-chorus and chorus alongside Braxton - she has clear solo lines sung and her voice is at the forefront. If anything, I would say she dominates the most memorable elements of the song. I understand why a record company or producer may not want to credit a background vocalist as a featured act on a lead/premier acts song but in cases like these I was always confused. m.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyqrzhk0KhQ This is pretty common in music, so not sure what is confusing. The singer on C&C Music Factory's hits was not credited. There is a backing singer (Debra Killings?) who has heavy vocals on some TLC hits but isn't credited. I am sure they get paid a flat fee for their work, and that's it. The label is of course going to credit/feature their actual artist. Of course, there's Ke$ha on Right Round, who, as an unknown, willing gave up being on a massive #1 single - and I think ended up not being paid or something like that. |
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Dec 3, 2018 19:10:23 GMT -5
I kinda like Sicko Mode but I REALLY dislike Travis. Don't know how to feel about this week's #1. If he got #1, Nicki deserves it too.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2018 19:10:49 GMT -5
YESSSSSSSSSSS thank the lord we finally get a great number 1 this year Travis finally gets a number 1 this is so beautiful I get that you hate drake but how was Nice For What not great? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2018 19:11:41 GMT -5
I kinda like Sicko Mode but I REALLY dislike Travis. Don't know how to feel about this week's #1. If he got #1, Nicki deserves it more. Nicki doesn't even deserve a career let alone a number one. Think of sicko mode as drake song  |
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Dec 3, 2018 19:18:37 GMT -5
I kinda like Sicko Mode but I REALLY dislike Travis. Don't know how to feel about this week's #1. If he got #1, Nicki deserves it more. Nicki doesn't even deserve a career let alone a number one. Think of sicko mode as drake song Well, I only like this because of Drake. Don't talk that about Nicki, she's a rap legend. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2018 19:22:57 GMT -5
Nicki doesn't even deserve a career let alone a number one. Think of sicko mode as drake song Well, I only like this because of Drake. Don't talk that about Nicki, she's a rap legend. The word legend is used very loosely |
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Post by hunterquigley on Dec 3, 2018 19:45:14 GMT -5
Travis Scott really did prove himself with Astroworld, after "Butterfly Effect" which only peaked at number fifty because of the streams from the release of Astroworld, and then "Watch" which debuted at number sixteen, Travis Scott was able to debut all of his songs on the Billboard 100 with two of them in the top ten, and then eventually hit number one with one of them shows how he turned himself around.
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Post by djkelly1 on Dec 3, 2018 20:07:52 GMT -5
90% of the time. Are you kidding me? I haven't posted up to 10 times in the past three weeks and on several of those posts, I agreed with someone else's opinion about something and someone quoted me and said I complain a lot and I should shut up. I can't count the number of times I've stated my opinion about a thing and several people have quoted that opinion vehemently disagreeing with it. I don't accuse those people of picking a fight with me, I just make a case of why I feel my opinion is the right one and if they still don't agree with me, we agree to disagree and I keep it moving. If you really peeped my posts like you're insinuating you do with these quotes, you would know that. Oh dear. I'll show you a few examples of you picking a fight, for next to no reason: Huh? Who exactly has Travis influenced? Some of you just come on here and say wild things, lmao. I'm not even pressed because Drake has scored other hits this year that are bigger and Nonstop is just as big a hit as Sicko Mode plus he has other top 10 songs he never received credit for (examples are his appearances on songs like Every Girl where the credited artist is "Young Money"). Travis didn't even give the people who appeared on his album writing credit or feature credit and it's not just Drake. People can discuss why that is without being labeled as pressed or being dismissed. Why wouldn't Drake want to be credited? Travis is the one who didn't credit ANYONE on his album. Also, I'm not complaining, someone else brought up the point and I added to that point. Relax. I'm already tired of complaining about him not crediting Drake. Drake is a huge reason why the song is so successful. His parts of the song are the most popular/recognizable parts. He even spends more time on the song than Travis, but crediting him is impossible? Even if he didn't want to do it in the week the album dropped for "asthetic" purposes, it's been months now. Maybe he just likes seeing his name alone up there, but Drake's team should have also pushed for him to be credited. It'll be interesting to see if he can score another hit like this without Drake's assistance. Not "guess" or "probably" when the numbers back it up and it was the hottest song this Summer. You can say you didn't like it or you preferred another song, but Songs of the Summer aren't required to last through the Summer into the Fall. One Dance also did 10 weeks at #1 even though it's run started much earlier. By the time the Summer of 2016 was rounding up, it wasn't the #1 song anymore, but even beyond numbers, you knew it was the song that defined the Summer that year. IMF was the song most people played the most during THE SUMMER, which is what matters here. That song was everywhere you went in the US during the Summer. Clubs, radio, BBQ's, blasting out of randoms cars, etc. It did 10 weeks at #1 and came just in time for the Summer. It was enough to reach #1 on Billboard's Song of the Summer chart by the end of the Summer, too and that just further validated it. Lmao, relax. This is a one-off case. As much as Ariana, Camilla and Dua are streaming forces in their own rights, they don't usually pull in massive streams right away like Ariana is doing right now. I'm hoping the success of this Ariana single encourages more pop fans to focus on streaming the songs their favourite artists release right away as opposed to just complaining about hip-hop's dominance. This particular song is doing well because it's become like a meme on social media. More and more people are finding about it on social media and so it's streams keep rising. Should rise for about another week before it stalls and starts dipping, much like In My Feelings did when it peaked. But still, great achievement for Ariana. She more than deserves it. No, he isn't. How is he hip-hop when he vehemently denies hip-hop any chance he gets? He constantly puts the genre down. He's said several times that he's not a rapper and doesn't consider himself one, yet he always maintains close proximity to certain elements of the genre: the themes he croons about, using cadences rappers primarily use, constantly featuring black rap artists, etc. The article I posted was meant to be scathing because it's an OP-ed from a writer who obviously doesn't appreciate Post Malone, but it doesn't make his criticisms any less valid. I've always felt the exact same way about Post Malone - the writer just put it into the right words. But like I said earlier, I appreciate certain Post Malone songs for what they are. He comes up with nice melodies and hooks, but that's really it for me. You even said yourself: Sorry if I detailed the thread. You and djkelly would make great friends based on how pressed you are over every. little. thing. Sit down. Awesome! My name was mentioned in a post! |
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Post by wavey. on Dec 3, 2018 20:08:36 GMT -5
I kinda like Sicko Mode but I REALLY dislike Travis. Don't know how to feel about this week's #1. If he got #1, Nicki deserves it more. Nicki doesn't even deserve a career let alone a number one. Think of sicko mode as drake song But she has a career, so stop that. |
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Post by renfield75 on Dec 3, 2018 20:40:34 GMT -5
This is pretty common in music, so not sure what is confusing. The singer on C&C Music Factory's hits was not credited. There is a backing singer (Debra Killings?) who has heavy vocals on some TLC hits but isn't credited. I am sure they get paid a flat fee for their work, and that's it. The label is of course going to credit/feature their actual artist. Of course, there's Ke$ha on Right Round, who, as an unknown, willing gave up being on a massive #1 single - and I think ended up not being paid or something like that. That one is especially odd because she WAS credited, then the label had her credit removed *during* its run at #1. I guess maybe her label didn't want her to be thought of as a backup singer before "Tik Tok" was released? It worked out for her either way... |
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