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Post by allow that on Nov 1, 2003 13:50:01 GMT -5
I LOVE this song. It's got everything I think it'd take to have a big Alternative hit, but doesn't seem to be doing that much.
Do you guys think this can still pick up?
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Post by halo19 on Nov 1, 2003 14:30:51 GMT -5
I think it has a chance at still picking up, perhaps. It's easily their biggest hit so far. "Understanding..." from last year only made the N&A list. It's not generic enough to do better. The radio stations want to get money from playing Three Days Grace and Trapt, so that won't happen.
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Post by insect2 on Nov 1, 2003 15:09:55 GMT -5
Three Days Grace, Trapt, A Perfect Circle, Switchfoot, Audioslave... if you're blaming other songs, you might as well blame all 31 songs above it.
I'm kinda shocked it even managed to make it to #32, given that "Understanding (In A Car Crash)" was overlooked. The video was getting some heavy MTV2 airplay, so I figured it would've charted somewhere. I guess their indie cred got too big to ignore for some stations (unless it's the same ones that played Understanding and they're playing this more, but that's a stretch). I'd love to see it continue to climb, but I think if it makes it to #30, I'd be more than satisfied. I still have to pick up their album, but unless someone's gonna charge a nickel for it, I have to wait.
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Post by hamjerzee on Nov 1, 2003 22:13:11 GMT -5
What I've heard isn't all that great IMHO. Of course, I downloaded a low-quality version, and most times I get enthusiastic about a song when I get a better-quality version of it. (Felt the same way about The Strokes - 12:51)
I guess what I'm trying to say is that I don't like it now, but it could change.
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Post by Matt4319 on Nov 2, 2003 2:34:00 GMT -5
This is pretty good, but doesn't seem like a surefire top 10 kind of song to me.
And I think the reason this is doing so much better than "Understanding..." is that this is their first album on a major label.
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Post by thisbeautifulmess on Nov 2, 2003 13:31:02 GMT -5
It's a pretty good song, but I think it's pretty much peaked.
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Post by halo19 on Nov 2, 2003 15:02:20 GMT -5
Three Days Grace, Trapt, A Perfect Circle, Switchfoot, Audioslave... if you're blaming other songs, you might as well blame all 31 songs above it. I didn't mention A Perfect Circle or Audioslave because their success can be explained by something other than payola. some people just don't get it. I think that the reason that it got as far as it did, is because there are many Thursday fans that listen to Alternative, and PD's realize that. |
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Post by insect2 on Nov 2, 2003 17:25:54 GMT -5
I didn't mention A Perfect Circle or Audioslave because their success can be explained by something other than payola. some people just don't get it. So what makes you think that the same amount of people who are calling and requesting APC and Audioslave aren't also doing it for TDG and Trapt? Just because you don't like those bands doesn't mean it's solely the radio stations and record companies that are responsible for their airplay. |
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Post by halo19 on Nov 2, 2003 17:32:21 GMT -5
Well, those songs don't seem like stuff that would generally be hits to me. That damned "(I Hate) Everything About You" song isn't really that catchy, but I guess it's bad enough. "Headstrong", well maybe since it sounds too much like Hoobastank, it wasn't payolayed that much, but likely still was. Some songs were out then that sounded just like that and did absolutely nil on the charts. That's how I see it. Also, they're nothing but Johnny-come-lately-cash-in-bands.
On the contrary, A Perfect Circle's stuff was highly anticipated by Tool fans who were waiting to hear from Maynard's other band. Their songs weren't that non-commercial, so it didn't stop them.
Audioslave, change that to Soundgarden and Rage from the last sentence, and it's radio-friendly enough, too.
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Post by thisbeautifulmess on Nov 4, 2003 18:09:50 GMT -5
Well, those songs don't seem like stuff that would generally be hits to me. That damned "(I Hate) Everything About You" song isn't really that catchy, but I guess it's bad enough. I disagree. It took about three listens for me to see the catchiness of it and I figured it would easily be a hit. I just can't figure out why it took so long to rise. |
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Post by Tayzlor on Nov 4, 2003 19:54:19 GMT -5
I disagree. It took about three listens for me to see the catchiness of it and I figured it would easily be a hit. I just can't figure out why it took so long to rise. Yeah, but the hook is too obvious and generic. I could have written that...it's basically "I hate everything about you" yelled loud. |
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Post by Mega248 on Nov 4, 2003 19:59:53 GMT -5
Agreed.
"I Hate Everything About You" is the worst song in the top 50 right now. The Thursday song is okay, but not that great. I wouldn't expect it to be real big.
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Post by insect2 on Nov 4, 2003 22:09:33 GMT -5
Yeah, but the hook is too obvious and generic. I could have written that...it's basically "I hate everything about you" yelled loud. It shouldn't have to be poetic or something e.e. cummings wrote to be good. I think it's extremely catchy as well. |
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Post by halo19 on Nov 5, 2003 22:05:15 GMT -5
I think that what makes a song a hit is that the artist has enough creativity to make it stand out. However, sometimes it's just a novelty. For example, would "Control" by Puddle of Mudd be nearly as big of a song if the singer didn't say "I love the way you smack my ass"?
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Nov 7, 2003 19:01:58 GMT -5
I really, really hate to admit this, but I like the Three Days Grace song more than I ever have before (which was never very much.) I graded it a B- in the report card topic.
For some reason, now that I see the video and the last couple of times I heard it on the radio, I've just kinda tuned out the lyrics (which are very generic and one-dimensional).
But for some reason I like the melody of the pre-chorus and then they smack you with the intensity of the chorus. I like the energy, the interplay between the band and the singer, and I love the raw sound of his voice as he screams. The drummer does a pretty good job rhythmically, too.
The song will never hit my chart, though and I can't imagine these guys having another hit. The CD will be a used bin staple for the next 3 years, I'm sure.
I usually only backtrack on songs like this when they get so much prolonged airplay that you have all the time in the world to notice little things you actually do like about them.
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Post by Tayzlor on Nov 7, 2003 21:08:29 GMT -5
Man, this topic went from the brilliance of Thursday to the genericness of Three Days Grace. ???
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Post by halo19 on Nov 8, 2003 15:27:42 GMT -5
It's just because I said my honest thoughts about other artists being payola'd on the chart  |
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Post by Crushcrushchris on Nov 15, 2003 19:09:49 GMT -5
I've heard nothing but good things from Thursday. I'm not so sure about their commercial success in the future and how well they'll do on the radio, but this song is just really an amazing start.
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Post by Tayzlor on Nov 15, 2003 20:34:43 GMT -5
...but this song is just really an amazing start. You know what else would have been an amazing start? "Understanding In A Car Crash"... >:( |
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Post by artemis on Dec 8, 2003 20:14:15 GMT -5
Understanding and Signals Over the Air are two of the most overlooked songs of this decade. Signals takes me back to 80s new wave...great great song. The cd on the other hand I am having trouble getting into. It sounds sort of repetitive but that genre of music is not usual my cup of tea. I might put it away for awhile and come back in a couple of months. They are totally the best though in their genre for sure.
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