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Post by Exclusive on Jan 19, 2019 14:20:29 GMT -5
Omg not "blaccent" . The s**t us starting already. I think alot of the Pop fans really don't like when artists try songs like this, but like it's only one song, and so far the tun singles have all different sounds..is that a bad thing? It’s to be expected when an artist tries new things there will be some distressed individuals who are not pleased and Ariana is no different. I’m glad she’s venturing into a new sound and that she continues to grow as an artist. I’m sure the album will have some tracks that will be reminiscent of her desired sound (see needy) so fans doing the most just need to chill.
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Post by elementd5 on Jan 19, 2019 14:34:37 GMT -5
This is definitely a risk, she hasn't released anything like this before and she's trying to see if people like her making this kind of music. There is nothing risky about this at all. This is sing-songy, desperate for a meme, kiddie trap-lite. And it's made specifically to get maximum streams, which it's going to do. It's literally music by the numbers. This almost always happens as artists get further in their careers, especially within this generation. Artists may not want to make “timeless” music. They may just want to make enjoyable songs and get hits, particularly while they still can. It’s usually those here who offer that they should be “above that” at this point in their career.
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Post by wavey.✨️ on Jan 19, 2019 14:38:26 GMT -5
There is nothing risky about this at all. This is sing-songy, desperate for a meme, kiddie trap-lite. And it's made specifically to get maximum streams, which it's going to do. It's literally music by the numbers. This almost always happens as artists get further in their careers, especially within this generation. Artists may not want to make “timeless” music. They may just want to make enjoyable songs and get hits, particularly while they still can. It’s usually those here who offer that they should be “above that” at this point in their career. Reminds me of Beyonce and "7/11".
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Post by bat1990 on Jan 19, 2019 14:40:08 GMT -5
This is definitely a risk, she hasn't released anything like this before and she's trying to see if people like her making this kind of music. There is nothing risky about this at all. This is sing-songy, desperate for a meme, kiddie trap-lite. And it's made specifically to get maximum streams, which it's going to do. It's literally music by the numbers. As if our faves didn't do this in the 90s. The trends were just different.
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Post by SHOOTER on Jan 19, 2019 15:43:51 GMT -5
I want this to smash just so all the pressed Beckies can seethe.
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Post by Naos on Jan 19, 2019 16:08:29 GMT -5
I don't care about her tanning (I've whitened before, so me complaining would be hypocritical), but the "blaccent"... meh. I can see the possible problem, but it's not like she's perpetuating stereotypes or being disrespectful. It's not like Iggy Azalea who faked 24/7 in her music.
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Post by wavey.✨️ on Jan 19, 2019 17:22:03 GMT -5
Omg not "blaccent" . The s**t us starting already. I think alot of the Pop fans really don't like when artists try songs like this, but like it's only one song, and so far the tun singles have all different sounds..is that a bad thing? I think you misunderstood my post. I was saying that I think her tan is fine, but that I understand why some people think her "blaccent" is problematic, socially. I, personally, love everything about the song and video. That's fine, I just fail to realized where she sounded black.
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Post by insen_13 on Jan 19, 2019 17:26:38 GMT -5
I really like this song. It has been on repeat since release.
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Post by maine on Jan 19, 2019 17:32:17 GMT -5
I think this and the majority of what she has released in the past year has been incredibly bland.
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Post by breathingrande on Jan 19, 2019 17:51:34 GMT -5
I'm actually sad that she went from the superb hooks of the Sweetener singles to this. I mean the chorus of No tears... That melody alone is a blessing. For sure this will do big numbers and maybe will smash on the long run... Who knows... I'll just wait for the deep cuts on the album, this trap flow thing is not for me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 19:26:45 GMT -5
Oh wig this is the part of her career she moves from pop into her urban zone. Spread your wings Ari.
Not a fan of this. It's sounds unbelievable from her and hard to take serious and all together not a good song but after Thank You, next I'm sure it will blow up
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Post by elementd5 on Jan 19, 2019 19:54:02 GMT -5
After the amazing 1-2-3 punch of Side to Side, Let Me Love You, and Everday, I didn’t realize how much I missed Urban Ari. Love.
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Post by Dylan :) on Jan 19, 2019 20:00:44 GMT -5
Side To Side is urban?
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Post by Au$tin on Jan 19, 2019 20:06:09 GMT -5
About as urban as "God is a woman," "Everyday," or this.
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Post by Exclusive on Jan 19, 2019 20:08:03 GMT -5
It's a reggae-pop song with minimal some urban appeal.
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Post by Dylan :) on Jan 19, 2019 20:09:20 GMT -5
About as urban as "God is a woman," "Everyday," or this. I would consider the last three a form of urban, or at least urban sounding, but Side To Side.. that’s straight up reggae sounding pop. I don’t listen to urban though so EDIT: It's a reggae-pop song with minimal some urban appeal. Where is the urban appeal? And I don’t mean this as a joke or anything, I’m genuinely curious because I really don’t hear it
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Post by Exclusive on Jan 19, 2019 20:18:50 GMT -5
It's a reggae-pop song with minimal some urban appeal. Where is the urban appeal? And I don’t mean this as a joke or anything, I’m genuinely curious because I really don’t hear it Although the song's main influence is reggae based, there are hints/compliments of R&B in the verses, chorus and the addition of Nicki Minaj's rap gives it some crossover urban appeal (not that every song with a rapper automatically means urban).
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Post by Choco on Jan 19, 2019 22:07:38 GMT -5
Legit curious: has she ever cracked the Urban chart? If this catches on it might appear there much like the massive urban hits like HUMBLE or Bodak Yellow do on Pop from time to time.
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Post by Mayman on Jan 19, 2019 22:20:40 GMT -5
Legit curious: has she ever cracked the Urban chart? If this catches on it might appear there much like the massive urban hits like HUMBLE or Bodak Yellow do on Pop from time to time. I know she hit the top 50 with "Bed". I think "Problem" either hit the top 50 or was very close to hitting the top 50, not sure.
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Post by Choco on Jan 19, 2019 22:25:35 GMT -5
Legit curious: has she ever cracked the Urban chart? If this catches on it might appear there much like the massive urban hits like HUMBLE or Bodak Yellow do on Pop from time to time. I know she hit the top 50 with "Bed". I think "Problem" either hit the top 50 or was very close to hitting the top 50, not sure. Yeah I was thinking Problem probably did it considering it had a still cool Iggy Azalea, uncredited Big Sean and Ariana was relatively unknown to most people at that point so PDs didn't really had a reason to go "ew, she's pop!"
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Post by wavey.✨️ on Jan 19, 2019 23:14:35 GMT -5
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Post by rainie on Jan 19, 2019 23:47:23 GMT -5
Mannn I’m conflicted about this one. On one hand, Ariana pulls off the urban shtick shockingly well. On the other hand, that My Favorite Things interpolation is corny as fuck and this is so trashy. At minimum, I would totally sing along to this with my girls while drunk.
This totally seems like the type of song to have a LWYMMD type run — mark my words, this will debut at #1 on the hot 100 but be out of the top 5 by March, as well as probably getting a purge on CHR.
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Post by breathingrande on Jan 20, 2019 7:36:21 GMT -5
Mannn I’m conflicted about this one. On one hand, Ariana pulls off the urban shtick shockingly well. On the other hand, that My Favorite Things interpolation is corny as fu ck and this is so trashy. At minimum, I would totally sing along to this with my girls while drunk. This totally seems like the type of song to have a LWYMMD type run — mark my words, this will debut at #1 on the hot 100 but be out of the top 5 by March, as well as probably getting a purge on CHR. I don't know how are they going to promote this to HAC radio.... I would focus on Urban and Rhythmic
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Post by elementd5 on Jan 20, 2019 7:42:23 GMT -5
About as urban as "God is a woman," "Everyday," or this. I would consider the last three a form of urban, or at least urban sounding, but Side To Side.. that’s straight up reggae sounding pop. I don’t listen to urban though so EDIT: It's a reggae-pop song with minimal some urban appeal. Where is the urban appeal? And I don’t mean this as a joke or anything, I’m genuinely curious because I really don’t hear it Reggae itself is Urban. Not saying it would get play on Urban radio, but the sound itself is a clear, intentional derivative. That’s where all the “culture vulture” arguments (that I don’t necessarily agree with) come from. I don’t see the Taylor single comparisons either, because they were polarizing and arguably left-field/unique, so her fans either liked them or didn’t with no real precedent for their potential success. Rings isn’t unique. It already has a trap/rap/Urban-leaning market that occasionally works at Pop radio. There’s recent precedent for a song like this being successful.
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Jan 20, 2019 8:32:29 GMT -5
Her lil stunt of a whirlwind engagement did wonders for her lil career. This s**t is smashing, while “Into You”, “Breathin”, and superior singles from her debut underperformed in comparison. 😩
I’m sick.
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Post by stanr on Jan 20, 2019 9:24:05 GMT -5
This reminds me of LWYMMD as well, but with better reception. They also both have corny samples (I’m Too Sexy vs Favourite Things). I see this having a very similar run to LWYMMD but with better streams and worse airplay. I will say, though, that it has a great like-to-dislike ratio on Youtube, compared to most polarising songs. . I think it will have a very similar run to Drake’s “In My Feeling”. Huge streaming but just an “ok” airplay chart run (pretty high peak but with average longevity). It will debut at #1 but TUN will be bigger overall (better longevity, bigger impact, etc).
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Post by Glove Slap on Jan 20, 2019 11:44:29 GMT -5
Her lil stunt of a whirlwind engagement did wonders for her lil career. This s**t is smashing, while “Into You”, “Breathin”, and superior singles from her debut underperformed in comparison. 😩 I’m sick. This is better than those tho.
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Post by deepston on Jan 20, 2019 11:47:38 GMT -5
If this ends up going #1, I think we can start comparing the sweetener/tu,n era with crazy popular pop girl eras like 1989.
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