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Post by Glove Slap on Jan 18, 2019 7:32:43 GMT -5
Lol people being surprised at Abel lyrics.
This is more than competent enough, but it's another autopilot track for him. I loved Starboy so much and the rest of his albums have way better material on all levels, but nothing he's put out since has been on that level.
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Post by Dylan :) on Jan 18, 2019 13:29:40 GMT -5
I haven’t listened to this yet but reading the lyrics.. well it’s not a song I’d like but it’s a song I know because of tweets saying it was homophobic. On first read of the second verse I definitely thought it was homophobic (“while I f you straight”) - him saying she isn’t into girls, it is a phase and I’ll make you straight. But reading it again, it sounds more of she thinks she might be into girls as well as guys, she thinks it might be a phase but he said it’s okay, she can bring a friend (a girl I’m assuming) and all three of them can have sex. The only confusing line then is “keeping your heart safe”. He might mean she is taking a break from men and just going with a girl as a girl won’t break her heart (which to me is problematic because it sounds like he is saying women are only into women for sex), but then... I could be 100% overthinking all of this and he was just high and horny in the studio and wrote down whatever came to his head first. Regardless, the lyrics as a whole are disgusting, whether that is tame for him or not, so I’ll probably never listen but
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Post by allow that on Jan 18, 2019 14:30:18 GMT -5
Lol people being surprised at Abel lyrics. I'm not surprised but the context here is particularly off putting. His most vulgar songs ("Initiation" sets the bar) were never intended for Pop radio. There's a difference between making mixtape tracks, intended for more mature, less impressionable, less widespread audiences than a Pop song intended for a mainstream format whose target audience centers on teens. Add the fact that there's currently an active and powerful social conversation confronting misogyny and toxic masculinity and it just makes the song scream tone deaf. That aside, dirty af or squeaky clean, these lyrics are not imaginative and forgo the storytelling found in his best material. It's just straight forward locker room talk (yuck). I hate to use the much overused word "basic" but that's all we have here.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 15:54:05 GMT -5
very autopilot and so are the lyrics. The line about his girlfriend saying she’s in a girl on girl phase and he wants a 3some is very tame compared to most of his old stuff.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Jan 18, 2019 15:59:11 GMT -5
I really like this now, this shit bumps hard!
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Post by Lumi on Jan 18, 2019 17:54:36 GMT -5
I hate these updates with my whole soul. Doesn't deserve it.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Jan 18, 2019 21:12:52 GMT -5
POP 179 27 GESAFFELSTEIN & THE WEEKND Lost In The Fire 2789 19 2770 20.604 + 636 spins + 617 bullet + 3.951 audience
RHYTHMIC 189 33 GESAFFELSTEIN & THE WEEKND Lost In The Fire 931 16 915 3.676 + 197 spins + 181 bullet + 0.708 audience
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Post by Suono on Jan 18, 2019 21:42:08 GMT -5
Mary Mother of Jesus- that UPDATE?!?!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 21:52:31 GMT -5
POP179 27 GESAFFELSTEIN & THE WEEKND Lost In The Fire 2789 19 2770 20.604 + 636 spins + 617 bullet + 3.951 audience RHYTHMIC189 33 GESAFFELSTEIN & THE WEEKND Lost In The Fire 931 16 915 3.676 + 197 spins + 181 bullet + 0.708 audience Incredible updates, I didn’t expect this fast of gain. I’ve listened to this a bunch of times, still think it’s decent.
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Post by dovahduck on Jan 18, 2019 22:08:41 GMT -5
Although the streaming and sales for this track are decent at best, this is looking to be one of Abel's biggest radio hits. Will he be able to get another number one on radio? Probably not but it's interesting to think about, I'm really glad for Gesaffelstein, hopefully the performance of this single will make the GP check out some of his previous work and his upcoming album 'Hyperion'. Now all we need is for Kavinsky to drop some new music with a popular artist (possibly with Abel since they've collaborated before), so that he can blow up.
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Post by ilikemusic on Jan 19, 2019 0:11:50 GMT -5
This song sounds more like a parody of a Weeknd song than an actual Weeknd song. These lyrics are bad
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Post by Leo ✔ on Jan 19, 2019 12:31:32 GMT -5
POP 51 26 GESAFFELSTEIN & THE WEEKND Lost In The Fire 3066 369 2697 20.291 + 277 spins - 73 bullet - 0.313 audience
RHYTHMIC 66 32 GESAFFELSTEIN & THE WEEKND Lost In The Fire 1045 134 911 3.783 + 114 spins - 4 bullet + 0.107 audience
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Post by rainie on Jan 20, 2019 0:04:03 GMT -5
Yeah def not a fan of the lyrics, esp considering I’m a queer girl, but I suppose they aren’t THAT bad. It’s possible I’m just desensitized to this sort of thing though, and regardless I’m a sucker for that groove (though it does strike me as fairly derivative at this point).
Even thought this is moving pretty quickly, streaming and sales are super weak at this point — no way does this even reach the top 10 of CHR. Lesser Starboy rehash doesn’t really seem lile the type of thing pop would send to the top in 2019 anyways.
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Post by nick64 on Jan 20, 2019 0:11:04 GMT -5
Yeah this is tame compared to his old stuff, but he should’ve known that second verse wouldn’t fly in 2019. If they switched a few lines in that verse, this would be completely fine.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Jan 20, 2019 11:43:27 GMT -5
POP 45 25 GESAFFELSTEIN & THE WEEKND Lost In The Fire 3473 637 2836 22.550 + 407 spins + 139 bullet + 2.259 audience
RHYTHMIC 53 30 GESAFFELSTEIN & THE WEEKND Lost In The Fire 1215 214 1001 4.372 + 170 spins + 90 bullet + 0.589 audience
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Post by vithor on Jan 20, 2019 12:06:20 GMT -5
I hate these updates with my whole soul. Doesn't deserve it. Well, at least we could be happy with the fact that at least some people are talking about how cringy and wrong the lyrics are. Let's say 5 years ago no one would've been at least a little bothered.
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Post by Enigma. on Jan 20, 2019 12:11:12 GMT -5
Yea, even though radio doesn't see it yet, there's been quite a lot of backlash and this song hasn't rushed into top 3 on streaming like his songs usually do so that's progress.
EDIT: It is actually behind Shallow among others on Spotify already (globally)!
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Post by marc980 on Jan 20, 2019 12:28:38 GMT -5
I found it just okay based on the beat of the song, sounds like a rip-off of Pray For Me. I gave more listens and even started to enjoying it until I saw the lyrics... Hm, just no.
I'll keep with Pray For Me.
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Post by Exclusive on Jan 20, 2019 23:47:50 GMT -5
Trying to get into this but it's not really clicking at the moment. OTOH those updates are crazy.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Jan 21, 2019 21:48:59 GMT -5
POP 41 21 GESAFFELSTEIN & THE WEEKND Lost In The Fire 3942 853 3089 24.506 + 469 spins + 253 bullet + 1.956 audience
RHYTHMIC 44 26 GESAFFELSTEIN & THE WEEKND Lost In The Fire 1364 310 1054 4.846 + 149 spins + 53 bullet + 0.474 audience
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Post by dovahduck on Jan 22, 2019 11:32:23 GMT -5
Debuts at number 27 on the Hot 100.
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Post by dovahduck on Jan 22, 2019 16:11:05 GMT -5
Moved up from 25 to three on the Hot Dance/Electronic songs chart. Debuts at 23 on the Pop songs chart and at 25 on the Rhythmic songs chart. Also debuts at 14 on Canadian Hot 100.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Jan 22, 2019 20:52:38 GMT -5
POP 38 19 GESAFFELSTEIN & THE WEEKND Lost In The Fire 4367 1172 3195 26.444 + 425 spins + 106 bullet + 1.938 audience
HOT AC 109 50 GESAFFELSTEIN & THE WEEKND Lost In The Fire 81 6 75 0.139
RHYTHMIC 42 25 GESAFFELSTEIN & THE WEEKND Lost In The Fire 1526 410 1116 5.257 + 162 spins + 62 bullet + 0.411 audience
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Post by Leo ✔ on Jan 23, 2019 20:47:30 GMT -5
POP 34 19 GESAFFELSTEIN & THE WEEKND Lost In The Fire 4617 1612 3005 27.676 + 250 spins - 190 bullet + 1.232 audience
HOT AC 93 50 GESAFFELSTEIN & THE WEEKND Lost In The Fire 89 13 76 0.177 + 8 spins + 1 bullet + 0.038 audience
RHYTHMIC 38 22 GESAFFELSTEIN & THE WEEKND Lost In The Fire 1649 543 1106 5.625 + 123 spins - 10 bullet + 0.368 audience
URBAN 78 50 GESAFFELSTEIN & THE WEEKND Lost In The Fire 545 125 420 1.338
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Post by Enigma. on Jan 24, 2019 11:36:39 GMT -5
This is dropping bit by bit on Spotify, yay!
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Post by Au$tin on Jan 24, 2019 12:34:44 GMT -5
I honestly see radio (pop, at least) sending this to the top ten only for it to brickwall around #7 or so. Even ignoring what backlash this is getting, there just doesn't seem to be a whole lot of hype for it anymore. It's fallen to #18 on Spotify after only peaking at #7. (New Weeknd definitely should have at least entered in the top three.) It's tumbled to #45 on iTunes. I guarantee when the callouts come in for this they're going to be middle-of-the-road at best to bad at worst.
It's a shame too because while "Call Out My Name" was a hit, it was a flash in the pan, and this looks to do just the same, and that back-to-back low turnout isn't going to bode well for his actual next lead single. Hell, even "Pray for Me" fizzled out much faster than anticipated.
I just really hope his next attempt actually bangs and does well because "'Pray for Me,' but this time karaoke style with homophobia" doesn't cut it.
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Post by divasummer on Jan 24, 2019 12:41:03 GMT -5
Theses updates are really big I didn't realize The Weekend still had this much push at CHR. I barely heard "Call Out My Name" on the radio in my area. Where did it peak at Top 40? I did hear and own "Pray For Me" but I thought the duetting with Kendrick gave it a lot of it's hype.
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Post by vithor on Jan 24, 2019 13:59:17 GMT -5
Theses updates are really big I didn't realize The Weekend still had this much push at CHR. I barely heard "Call Out My Name" on the radio in my area. Where did it peak at Top 40? I did hear and own "Pray For Me" but I thought the duetting with Kendrick gave it a lot of it's hype. It peaked at 47
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Post by Leo ✔ on Jan 24, 2019 21:05:28 GMT -5
POP 27 19 GESAFFELSTEIN & THE WEEKND Lost In The Fire 4881 2154 2727 28.428 + 264 spins - 278 bullet + 0.752 audience
HOT AC 80 48 GESAFFELSTEIN & THE WEEKND Lost In The Fire 107 20 87 0.245 + 18 spins + 11 bullet + 0.068 audience
RHYTHMIC 36 22 GESAFFELSTEIN & THE WEEKND Lost In The Fire 1723 734 989 5.933 + 74 spins - 117 bullet + 0.308 audience
URBAN 69 50 GESAFFELSTEIN & THE WEEKND Lost In The Fire 580 177 403 1.420 + 35 spins - 17 bullet + 0.082 audience
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Post by Leo ✔ on Jan 25, 2019 9:02:26 GMT -5
POP 27 19 GESAFFELSTEIN & THE WEEKND Lost In The Fire 5025 2789 2236 28.567 + 144 spins - 491 bullet + 0.139 audience
HOT AC 70 46 GESAFFELSTEIN & THE WEEKND Lost In The Fire 122 31 91 0.280 + 15 spins + 4 bullet + 0.035 audience
RHYTHMIC 33 22 GESAFFELSTEIN & THE WEEKND Lost In The Fire 1782 931 851 6.117 + 59 spins - 138 bullet + 0.184 audience
URBAN 67 49 GESAFFELSTEIN & THE WEEKND Lost In The Fire 618 237 381 1.538 + 38 spins - 22 bullet + 0.118 audience
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