Billboard Hot 100: 1/19/2019

[Gary]

First co-billed male leads at #1 with no features since Don't Let The Sun Go Down On Me in 1992


Prior to that you have to go back to Say Say Say in 1983

[kcdawg13]

King Post with another #1

[owenlovesmusic]

Yessssss

[fhas]

Yes - Post & Swae! Hip-hop on top again!

[fhas]

SICKO MODE is still #4 with more than 30k points after 23 consecutive weeks in the top 10. 

[Gary]

Short reign for pop

[Enigma.]

Sunflower is not really hip hop to my ears. It's almost like Thank U Next.. could be produced by Max Martin tbh

[renaboss]

Jan 14, 2019 14:08:13 GMT -5 fhas said:

Yes - Post & Swae! Hip-hop on top again!

Lol what? "Sunflower" is a clearly a pop song. We really need to stop referring to Post Malone as a hip-hop artist, Lady Gaga has rapped more in her songs than he has in his.

Yay for pop still on top! Ari, Halsey and Posty, pop princesses extraordinaire, keeping 2019 rap-free. 

[renaboss]

My main concern with pop songs is that they're going down the same route as hip-hop lately: the lowbeat trend soldiers on. "Thank U, Next", "Without Me", "Sunflower", "Eastside" are all pretty mellow. Can we get an actual bop?

[Enigma.]

Jan 14, 2019 14:23:57 GMT -5 renaboss said:

My main concern with pop songs is that they're going down the same route as hip-hop lately: the lowbeat trend soldiers on. "Thank U, Next", "Without Me", "Sunflower", "Eastside" are all pretty mellow. Can we get an actual bop?

Ava Max is coming to the rescue!

But yea, people are probably referring Sunflower as a hip hop only because it's by male artist with tattoos.

[fhas]

Jan 14, 2019 14:21:07 GMT -5 renaboss said:

Jan 14, 2019 14:08:13 GMT -5 fhas said:

Yes - Post & Swae! Hip-hop on top again!

Lol what? "Sunflower" is a clearly a pop song. We really need to stop referring to Post Malone as a hip-hop artist, Lady Gaga has rapped more in her songs than he has in his.

Yay for pop still on top! Ari, Halsey and Posty, pop princesses extraordinaire, keeping 2019 rap-free. 

Wtf... I thought the "block member" button would not allow you to quote me... ugh.

I don't care about what you think: "R&B/hip-hop & rap ruler: "Sunflower" concurrently spends a second week at No. 1 on both the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs and Hot Rap Songs charts."

Billboard >>>>>>>>>>> you

[renaboss]

Jan 14, 2019 14:27:24 GMT -5 fhas said:

Jan 14, 2019 14:21:07 GMT -5 renaboss said:

Lol what? "Sunflower" is a clearly a pop song. We really need to stop referring to Post Malone as a hip-hop artist, Lady Gaga has rapped more in her songs than he has in his.

Yay for pop still on top! Ari, Halsey and Posty, pop princesses extraordinaire, keeping 2019 rap-free. 

Wtf... I thought the "block member" button would not allow you to quote me... ugh.

I don't care about what you think: "R&B/hip-hop & rap ruler: "Sunflower" concurrently spends a second week at No. 1 on both the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs and Hot Rap Songs charts."

Billboard >>>>>>>>>>> you

Wow. I didn't realize I got you so pressed with my opinions that you blocked me. If you need to tell someone that you've blocked them, doesn't look good for you.

Thanks for the predictions though, always look forward to seeing 'em.

[Au$tin]

Genres are in large part subjective because entertainment media tends to use elements of multiple genres to create a piece. "Sunflower" borrows heavily from both hip-hop and pop. Calling it either of those genres is entirely fair. There is no need to get up in arms about it.

Also, fhas, blocking a member only blocks you from seeing their posts (although you can hit "Display Post," which you clearly had to in order to see it), blocks any notifications from them, and blocks them from starting new personal messages with you. The blocked member can still quote you and like your posts, you just wouldn't get the notification or see the post.

[Choco]

7 pop songs in the top 10.

(LOL at some people trying to pretend "Sunflower" is some hardcore rap track).

[Caviar]

Pop is back!!!! Now we just need massive uptempo pop song. Where is Katy?????

[Dylan :)]

A new number 1 each week of 2019 so far

[Enigma.]

I would be delighted if a rap track replaced GLY

(I love good rap, been bopping to Meek Mill and 21 Savage recently)

[Deleted]

Sweet But Psycho moved up by 4 to #37. I kind of thought it would be a little bit more, but it's still something.

[brady47]

Jan 13, 2019 20:12:11 GMT -5 Choco said:

I remember Just Dance going #1 that week. Felt like such a huge deal because it was such an uphill climb. I remember seeing Lady Gaga for the first time on the Miss Universe pageant (Venezuela won that year and it was a big deal for this country, etc...) and the song instantly got in my head. My best friend and I proceeded to play the heck out of it for months, so by the time it went #1 in the US it was already old news for us.

Haha, it's funny because Canada and US usually have similar charts, but by the time "Just Dance" finally hit #1 in the US, "Poker Face" was having multiple weeks at #1 for Canada.

[Choco]

"Sunflower" is to the Rap Songs chart what "We Are Never Getting Back Together" was to the Country Songs chart.

Billboard doesn't seem to think that Post Malone can make anything other than rap just like Taylor Swift was just a country singer until she requested to be classified as Pop with 1989.

Just like "High Hopes" is the biggest Alternative hit in years... but the same exact recording could be credited to Maroon 5 and it wouldn't chart on Alternative just because.

[brady47]

Jan 14, 2019 14:26:39 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

Jan 14, 2019 14:23:57 GMT -5 renaboss said:

My main concern with pop songs is that they're going down the same route as hip-hop lately: the lowbeat trend soldiers on. "Thank U, Next", "Without Me", "Sunflower", "Eastside" are all pretty mellow. Can we get an actual bop?

Ava Max is coming to the rescue!

But yea, people are probably referring Sunflower as a hip hop only because it's by male artist with tattoos.

Yes, "Sweet But Psycho" is already taking the world by storm.

As always, North America is always the last to catch on LOL

[tallen2001]

Jan 14, 2019 14:46:48 GMT -5 @geomachu said:

Sweet But Psycho moved up by 4 to #37. I kind of thought it would be a little bit more, but it's still something.

The radio for it is only increasing, sales are doing pretty good, and I think the streams will pick up. This is going to be a hit.

[Au$tin]

Jan 14, 2019 14:49:16 GMT -5 Choco said:

"Sunflower" is to the Rap Songs chart what "We Are Never Getting Back Together" was to the Country Songs chart.

Billboard doesn't seem to think that Post Malone can make anything other than rap just like Taylor Swift was just a country singer until she requested to be classified as Pop with 1989.

Just like "High Hopes" is the biggest Alternative hit in years... but the same exact recording could be credited to Maroon 5 and it wouldn't chart on Alternative just because.

This has been the main criticism towards Billboard's genre charts since the first day they restructured them a few years back. (2011? 2012? Somewhere in there.) Genres are incredibly difficult to classify because of how subjective it is and allowing a company to make such a decision resulted in, well, obvious problems like these. "Sunflower" can easily fit into a hip-hop playlist, but it's completely devoid of any rap elements. "We Are Never" had a few country elements in it, but mostly borrowed from pop. "High Hopes" is the same, but alt rock instead of country. The big difference here, though, is "High Hopes" legitimately is a #1 for alternative rock radio. *shrug*

I have no idea how Billboard should fix their genre charts*, but it's clear they way it is now is more convoluted than it should be.

*Well, I do have a way I would personally like to see it done, but it's based on radio formats, not actual genres, and is completely and totally a personal thing I'd like to see because it's interesting to me. It's certainly not anything that should be the definitive answer.

[lazer]

Sunflower does have elements of hip hop, but it's not a hip hop song.

[Enigma.]

From the pop side, also the latest Sam Smith single started very well on streaming and sales, interesting to see how it keeps up for next couple of weeks.

[Glove Slap]

YES POST! MAKE THEM MADD!

[Deleted]

Ugh. Yet another Drake song coming???? yet nothing from Rihanna for so long... :(

[jenglisbe]

Jan 14, 2019 14:38:45 GMT -5 Choco said:

7 pop songs in the top 10.

(LOL at some people trying to pretend "Sunflower" is some hardcore rap track).

Who said anything about hardcore?

[iHype.]

Jan 14, 2019 14:49:16 GMT -5 Choco said:

"Sunflower" is to the Rap Songs chart what "We Are Never Getting Back Together" was to the Country Songs chart.

Billboard doesn't seem to think that Post Malone can make anything other than rap just like Taylor Swift was just a country singer until she requested to be classified as Pop with 1989.

Just like "High Hopes" is the biggest Alternative hit in years... but the same exact recording could be credited to Maroon 5 and it wouldn't chart on Alternative just because.

In the case of "High Hopes" it has spent like 10 weeks #1 at Alternative radio though, so it clearly is popular even within the Alternative music community.

Yeah, Post is not that largely received in the Hip-Hop community. "Rockstar" and "White Iverson" are his only songs to actually make top 10 at R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay. He's just another Iggy or Macklemore to the people at Urban radio.

[Deleted]

Congrats main pop girl Posty! Long overdue third #1