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Post by Naos on Jan 14, 2019 15:24:48 GMT -5
I don't mind "Sunflower" at #1, I prefer over Post Malone's other songs which are complete trash (except for "Candy Paint" of course).
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jan 14, 2019 15:25:44 GMT -5
Sunflower might be my favourite hot 100 number one since....I don’t even know but I’d probably have to go back to 2017 at least.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jan 14, 2019 15:27:05 GMT -5
Genres are in large part subjective because entertainment media tends to use elements of multiple genres to create a piece. "Sunflower" borrows heavily from both hip-hop and pop. Calling it either of those genres is entirely fair. There is no need to get up in arms about it. Also, fhas, blocking a member only blocks you from seeing their posts (although you can hit "Display Post," which you clearly had to in order to see it), blocks any notifications from them, and blocks them from starting new personal messages with you. The blocked member can still quote you and like your posts, you just wouldn't get the notification or see the post. Sunflower is a song by hip-hop (adjacent) artists, but in no way is it a rap song. I have this issue with some Drake songs, too. Like how the Grammys grouped Hotline Bling - a CLEAR pop number by a rapper, a RAP song. Still, it's a song by hip-hop (adjacent) artists so it counts as a win for hip-hop, I guess. I'm just here being impressed by Sicko Mode's longevity. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jan 14, 2019 15:28:21 GMT -5
Ugh. Yet another Drake song coming???? yet nothing from Rihanna for so long... :( How about we save the complaints for when/if a Drake song actually drops? |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 14, 2019 15:30:14 GMT -5
This has been the main criticism towards Billboard's genre charts since the first day they restructured them a few years back. (2011? 2012? Somewhere in there.) Genres are incredibly difficult to classify because of how subjective it is and allowing a company to make such a decision resulted in, well, obvious problems like these. "Sunflower" can easily fit into a hip-hop playlist, but it's completely devoid of any rap elements. "We Are Never" had a few country elements in it, but mostly borrowed from pop. "High Hopes" is the same, but alt rock instead of country. The big difference here, though, is "High Hopes" legitimately is a #1 for alternative rock radio. *shrug* I have no idea how Billboard should fix their genre charts*, but it's clear they way it is now is more convoluted than it should be. *Well, I do have a way I would personally like to see it done, but it's based on radio formats, not actual genres, and is completely and totally a personal thing I'd like to see because it's interesting to me. It's certainly not anything that should be the definitive answer. The best recent case of their ambiguity regarding song genres was how Meant to Be didn't chart originally in Hot Country Songs and all of the sudden, when it was doing well in the Hot 100, it debuted at #1. It continued to chart last week after 58 weeks. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jan 14, 2019 15:30:31 GMT -5
Sunflower might be my favourite hot 100 number one since....I don’t even know but I’d probably have to go back to 2017 at least. I don't have to go that far back to find a favorite #1, but I appreciate how simple and to the point "Sunflower" is. It also has a cute melody. Checks all the boxes for mem |
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Post by Choco on Jan 14, 2019 15:33:54 GMT -5
I think the main complain here is that it is probably gonna be another mediocre entry that rules the charts for ages. Sadly, his best stuff did comparatively little on the charts (think Take Care and Nothing was the Same).
I think Drake could use a good break. Does he even have anything new and interesting to say that he didn't say on Scorpion? The stuff about his son was interesting on paper but it actually made for some of the most boring tracks on the album.
Of course this is all regarding quality of the material. In terms of chart impact and money, no one is able to sustain these levels of interest forever, so he is milking it.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jan 14, 2019 15:34:15 GMT -5
Pop is back!!!! Now we just need massive uptempo pop song. Where is Katy????? I believe the era of this particular kind of pop songs is dead. The biggest pop stars are now either featuring rappers on their songs or making pop songs with lost of R&B/rap elements. The pop stars who do manage to make big, uptempo pop songs usually have those songs see little to no success at all these days. |
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Post by hot100predictions on Jan 14, 2019 15:37:15 GMT -5
Maybe the Drake song will flop.
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Post by hot100predictions on Jan 14, 2019 15:38:22 GMT -5
Also, congrats to Post Malone and especially Swae Lee. His verses were so clean and good, it deserved to go #1. Also, when was the last time we had a song go #1 with zero cursing, must be awhile? Perfect, Havana?
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Post by marc980 on Jan 14, 2019 15:38:34 GMT -5
Congratulations to Post and Swae, Sunflower is a great song attached to a great movie! It's too early to say but I hope it stays on #1 for a second week :)
And I know it is very unlikely to happen but I would love to see HH hitting #1 on future.
EDIT: I saw that Eastside hit Top 10! YAAASSSSSS
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Post by hot100predictions on Jan 14, 2019 15:38:47 GMT -5
Havana was the last song non-explicit to reach #1.
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Post by iHype. on Jan 14, 2019 15:42:29 GMT -5
Y'all are so bent on this Drake single, when I doubt it's even real.
Why would a Middle Eastern streaming service have the track first? That's where that whole screenshot originated from. + That service has never spilled any other exclusives prior.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jan 14, 2019 15:46:23 GMT -5
I think the main complain here is that it is probably gonna be another mediocre entry that rules the charts for ages. Sadly, his best stuff did comparatively little on the charts (think Take Care and Nothing was the Same). I think Drake could use a good break. Does he even have anything new and interesting to say that he didn't say on Scorpion? The stuff about his son was interesting on paper but it actually made for some of the most boring tracks on the album. Of course this is all regarding quality of the material. In terms of chart impact and money, no one is able to sustain these levels of interest forever, so he is milking it. But that's not only limited to Drake. I don't know many #1's last year or the year before that that were groundbreaking. The songs off massive albums which usually rule the charts aren't usually the best songs off said albums. That has always been the case for hit singles. There are usually way better songs on the home albums of said singles that are a better, more quality listen, but either won't appeal to a massive audience or just won't work on radio. Still, Nice for What and In My Feelings were some of the best, most acclaimed hits of last year. I can go through several albums that were released last year that have a ton of filler tracks. And I'm talking 13-16 track albums here, not a 25 track album like Scorpion. What did Cardi have to "say" on her album? What about Travis Scott? Or Post Malone? People keep lining these criticisms to Drake about how he "has nothing to say" on his recent offerings like all these artists don't regurgitate things they've spoken about before on previous albums (and maybe even done better). It is what it is. IYRTITL/WATTBA/More Life were all received well. Views got mixed reviews on arrival, but people have since come around to appreciate it more and the same thing is already happening with Scorpion. I wish he'd take a break, too, but not because it's a sure bet to guarantee great music when he eventually returns. I just think it'll do him some good. |
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Post by ddlz on Jan 14, 2019 15:49:34 GMT -5
You know you're King of music when artists and fans from all different genres of music want to claim you. Don't fight, you guys. There's enough King Posty for everyone.  |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jan 14, 2019 15:49:35 GMT -5
Y'all are so bent on this Drake single, when I doubt it's even real. Why would a Middle Eastern streaming service have the track first? That's where that whole screenshot originated from. + That service has never spilled any other exclusives prior. Actually, that service spilled tea on XXXTENTACION's "17" before anyone else, apparently. But still, I'm on a "see it before I believe" vibe. People just need to wait and see first. I'm not particularly eager for a new Drake song. I think people just don't want a repeat of 2018 where he dominated for too long. Knowing Drake, he probably wants to do just that (even though I don't think he'll have it as easy this year as he did last year). |
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Post by Choco on Jan 14, 2019 15:54:17 GMT -5
I think Invasion of Privacy and beerbongs and bentleys are both solid pieces of work with a lot to say (plus bangers).
Neither act has reached the creative highs that Drake has with previous material so they couldn't really "fail to meet expectations" in the same way either. I'll give you the Travis album though. Also Eminem's, which got way too much praise just because it rose above the mediocrity of Revival.
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Post by rockgolf on Jan 14, 2019 15:55:55 GMT -5
I remember Just Dance going #1 that week. Felt like such a huge deal because it was such an uphill climb. I remember seeing Lady Gaga for the first time on the Miss Universe pageant (Venezuela won that year and it was a big deal for this country, etc...) and the song instantly got in my head. My best friend and I proceeded to play the heck out of it for months, so by the time it went #1 in the US it was already old news for us. Haha, it's funny because Canada and US usually have similar charts, but by the time "Just Dance" finally hit #1 in the US, "Poker Face" was having multiple weeks at #1 for Canada.
Similar situation happened back in the 80s when Men At Work were onto their second Canadian #1 (Down Under) while the US had yet to pick up on their first hit (Who Can It Be Now). Canada also picked up early on Styx & Supertramp if you wanna go further back. |
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Post by renfield75 on Jan 14, 2019 16:07:53 GMT -5
In regards to the genre charts..."Sunflower" is getting some play on rap radio and "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" did get country airplay so it's fair they chart there. The problem is that Billboard folds pop play and sales into the genre charts and that skews it for these crossover songs that are only minor hits at the specific format. I was always annoyed when Mumford & Sons' "I Will Wait" charted on the country airplay chart but Billboard kept it off the Top Country Songs chart because it would have been number one, and that would have been a bad look for Billboard. If a non-core artist gets airplay they seem to be excluded (which is why "Meant To Be" was kept off the Country Songs chart until it became a sizable country airplay hit). It all seems kinda arbitrary.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jan 14, 2019 16:13:03 GMT -5
I think Invasion of Privacy and beerbongs and bentleys are both solid pieces of work with a lot to say (plus bangers). Neither act has reached the creative highs that Drake has with previous material so they couldn't really "fail to meet expectations" in the same way either. I'll give you the Travis album though. Also Eminem's, which got way too much praise just because it rose above the mediocrity of Revival. I don't think either of those albums had ANYTHING to say, lol. They're just both full of bangers. That's really it. I agree with you on the point that Drake has seen better creative years, though. I'm just not sure that a break will ensure him getting back to that place. Too many artists who have taken long breaks only to drop terrible albums and for the cases that were different, you simply can't use them as a one-size-fits-all for everyone. Istill think he's got great songs/albums in him. We'll just have to wait and see what he comes up with next. |
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Post by renaboss on Jan 14, 2019 16:19:01 GMT -5
I have a feeling that several years from now people will look back and see all of Post Malone's #1 hits and be like, "wait, 'Better Now' wasn't #1? That's like his best known song!"
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Post by korbel16 on Jan 14, 2019 16:36:16 GMT -5
KING OF NEVER HAVING A NUMBER 2 PEAK 😩😩
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Post by Naos on Jan 14, 2019 17:02:46 GMT -5
Chris Brown's "Undecided" debuts at #35. It is Chris Brown's 25th Top 40 single as a lead artist (44th including features), and 91st Hot 100 entry, which ties James Brown for 8th most Hot 100 entries.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Jan 14, 2019 17:24:50 GMT -5
Chris Brown's "Undecided" debuts at #35. It is Chris Brown's 25th Top 40 single as a lead artist (44th including features), and 91st Hot 100 entry, which ties James Brown for 8th most Hot 100 entries. With R. Kelly getting torn to shreds right now, you'd think Chris Brown would be able to catch some flack as well. I mean, February does mark the 10th anniversary since he beat the everloving s**t out of Rihanna and he continued to do heinous things for years after and he's still getting Top 40 hits. Pretty disappointing to say the least. I don't know why we kept him around honestly, we have Bruno Mars, we have Khalid, we have Drake, and we have plenty of other R&B crooners. We don't really need Chris Brown. |
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Post by rfucom on Jan 14, 2019 17:29:39 GMT -5
Congrats Post!
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Post by eidde on Jan 14, 2019 17:33:07 GMT -5
Other positions:
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Post by Naos on Jan 14, 2019 17:36:05 GMT -5
Chris Brown's "Undecided" debuts at #35. It is Chris Brown's 25th Top 40 single as a lead artist (44th including features), and 91st Hot 100 entry, which ties James Brown for 8th most Hot 100 entries. With R. Kelly getting torn to shreds right now, you'd think Chris Brown would be able to catch some flack as well. I mean, February does mark the 10th anniversary since he beat the everloving s**t out of Rihanna and he continued to do heinous things for years after and he's still getting Top 40 hits. Pretty disappointing to say the least. I don't know why we kept him around honestly, we have Bruno Mars, we have Khalid, we have Drake, and we have plenty of other R&B crooners. We don't really need Chris Brown. I feel like with how much people bring up Chris Brown and Rihanna, they care more than Rihanna does. But yeah, he's done a lot of bad things. I haven't heard anything recently though. Drake is overexposed, Khalid I find kinda boring. Didn't Bruno Mars collaborate with Kodak Black? |
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Post by sam8432 on Jan 14, 2019 17:41:48 GMT -5
Lovely hits #65 this week and idontwannabeyouanymore hits #98.
This Feeling doesn't get a new peak this week.
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Post by rfucom on Jan 14, 2019 17:56:53 GMT -5
Poasible Wow might sneak in top10 next week.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 14, 2019 18:06:07 GMT -5
^I sense a boost for Billie Ellish songs next week due to WHEN I WAS OLDER's release. Her album is currently #4 in iTunes, which is probably the highest it has been since it was released.
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